Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > Since early 1997 Edmund Mergl has been developing and maintaining > Apache::DBI. I would think that it's now one of the most used > Apache related modules (and one of the most stable!) > > In the last almost 3 years only two bugs has been found. Edmund no > longer has time to make releases and such, so I fixed the last bug > and made a new release which is available on CPAN. hi ask... there is at least one bug still outstanding that I know about http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl&m=98167628923815&w=2 doug's follow-up is here http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl-dev&m=98168434608627&w=2 (though doug meant can_stack_handlers instead of can_push_handlers) HTH --Geoff
Re: Apache::DBI with mod_perl 2.0 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89)
At 00:49 23.06.2002, Charles Aulds wrote: >At 06:41 PM 6/21/02 +0200, Per Einar Ellefsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >>As Apache::DBI hasn't been tested with mod_perl 2.0 yet, you will need to: >>1) make sure you are using the prefork MPM for Apache (as Stas said, >>Apache::DBI can only work with that one) >>2) You will probably need to run mod_perl 2.0 in compat mode: put >> PerlModule Apache::compat >>in your httpd.conf, before loading other modules (like Apache::DBI). > >I didn't expect Apache::DBI to work under mod_perl 2.0, at least not well, >but was quite surprised. Today, I got it to work with this server: Great! Seems like Apache::compat is working as a charm. -- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache::DBI with mod_perl 2.0 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89)
At 06:41 PM 6/21/02 +0200, Per Einar Ellefsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>As Apache::DBI hasn't been tested with mod_perl 2.0 yet, you will need to: >>1) make sure you are using the prefork MPM for Apache (as Stas said, >> Apache::DBI can only work with that one) >>2) You will probably need to run mod_perl 2.0 in compat mode: put >> PerlModule Apache::compat >>in your httpd.conf, before loading other modules (like Apache::DBI). I didn't expect Apache::DBI to work under mod_perl 2.0, at least not well, but was quite surprised. Today, I got it to work with this server: Server Version: Apache/2.0.36 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_03-dev Perl/v5.6.1 DAV/2 Using Per Ellesfsen's suggests, and also pre-loading the following startup.pl script (for compat.pm): #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Apache2(); use Apache::compat; 1; Rudimentary benchmarks, using a MySQL server, and very simple query, shows that Apache::DBI significantly reduces user response time, and increases the throughput of the server (a very limited single P200 MX system, with only 64MB RAM running RH 7.3): CGI mod_perl Server Hostname 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 Server Port 80 80 Document Path /cgi-bin/zipcodes.cg /perl/zipcodes.cgi? zip=35801 zip=35801 Concurrency Level 10 10 Elapsed Time258.722seconds 63.691 seconds Complete Requests 200 200 Failed Requests 0 0 Total Transferred 127000 bytes 131843 bytes HTML Transferred89200 bytes 90200 bytes Requests per Second 0.773.20 Median Connection Times 12518 ms424 ms Transfer Rate 0.48Kbps received 2.05Kbps received --- Charles Aulds, MCSE, MCP+I Voice: (256) 931-5593 Fax: (240) 352-8290 http://hiwaay.net/~caulds
Re: Apache::DBI with mod_perl 2.0 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89)
At 06:41 PM 6/21/02 +0200, Per Einar Ellefsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As Apache::DBI hasn't been tested with mod_perl 2.0 yet, you will need to: 1) make sure you are using the prefork MPM for Apache (as Stas said, Apache::DBI can only work with that one) 2) You will probably need to run mod_perl 2.0 in compat mode: put PerlModule Apache::compat in your httpd.conf, before loading other modules (like Apache::DBI). I didn't expect Apache::DBI to work under mod_perl 2.0, at least not well, but was quite surprised. Today, I got it to work with this server: Server Version: Apache/2.0.36 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_03-dev Perl/v5.6.1 DAV/2 Using Per Ellesfsen's suggests, and also pre-loading the following startup.pl script (for compat.pm): #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Apache2(); use Apache::compat; 1; Rudimentary benchmarks, using a MySQL server, and very simple query, shows that Apache::DBI significantly reduces user response time, and increases the throughput of the server (a very limited single P200 MX system, with only 64MB RAM running RH 7.3): Table 8.2: Benchmarking Results Using Database Connection Sharing CGImod_perl Server Hostname192.168.1.1192.168.1.1 Server Port8080 Document Path/cgi-bin/zipcodes.cgi?zip=35801/perl/zipcodes.cgi?zip=35801 Concurrency Level1010 Elapsed Time258.722seconds63.691 seconds Complete Requests200200 Failed Requests00 Total Transferred127000 bytes131843 bytes HTML Transferred89200 bytes90200 bytes Requests per Second0.773.20 Median Connection Times 12518 ms424 ms Transfer Rate0.48Kbps received2.05Kbps received --- Charles Aulds, MCSE, MCP+I Voice: (256) 931-5593 Fax: (240) 352-8290 http://hiwaay.net/~caulds
Re: Apache::DBI with mod_perl 2.0 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89)
At 19:46 21.06.2002, Stas Bekman wrote: >Per Einar Ellefsen wrote: >>At 18:26 21.06.2002, Zac Morris wrote: >> >>>I actually have a question along these lines >>> >>>I'm new to mod_perl myself, and I've just installed a new setup with Apache2 >>>and the mod_perl2 beta. >>> >>>That's all working well and my old cgi-bin type stuff works under mod_perl >>>great. >>> >>>Now I'm trying to get more into the mod_perl specific stuff and when I: use >>>Apache::DBI I'm getting a can't find Apache.pm >>> >>>To use Apache::DBI do I need the old mod_perl 1 also installed running some >>>kind of "dual mode"? Or is that not even an option since I'm running >>>Apache2. I'm learning quick so if this is covered someplace just give me a >>>quick pointer. >> >>As Apache::DBI hasn't been tested with mod_perl 2.0 yet, you will need to: >>1) make sure you are using the prefork MPM for Apache (as Stas said, >>Apache::DBI can only work with that one) >>2) You will probably need to run mod_perl 2.0 in compat mode: put >> PerlModule Apache::compat > >but first you need: > >PerlModule Apache2 > >or 'use Apache2' in startup.pl. see: >http://perl.apache.org/release/docs/2.0/user/config/config.html#Accessing_the_mod_perl_2_0_Modules Nope, he did a "clean" mod_perl 2 install, without MP_INST_APACHE2 I think... so doesn't have an Apache.pm because mod_perl 1 wasn't installed before. -- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache::DBI with mod_perl 2.0 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89)
At 18:26 21.06.2002, Zac Morris wrote: >I actually have a question along these lines > >I'm new to mod_perl myself, and I've just installed a new setup with Apache2 >and the mod_perl2 beta. > >That's all working well and my old cgi-bin type stuff works under mod_perl >great. > >Now I'm trying to get more into the mod_perl specific stuff and when I: use >Apache::DBI I'm getting a can't find Apache.pm > >To use Apache::DBI do I need the old mod_perl 1 also installed running some >kind of "dual mode"? Or is that not even an option since I'm running >Apache2. I'm learning quick so if this is covered someplace just give me a >quick pointer. As Apache::DBI hasn't been tested with mod_perl 2.0 yet, you will need to: 1) make sure you are using the prefork MPM for Apache (as Stas said, Apache::DBI can only work with that one) 2) You will probably need to run mod_perl 2.0 in compat mode: put PerlModule Apache::compat in your httpd.conf, before loading other modules (like Apache::DBI). You will probably also want to see the 2.0 docs at http://perl.apache.org/release/docs/ Good luck! -- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89
I actually have a question along these lines I'm new to mod_perl myself, and I've just installed a new setup with Apache2 and the mod_perl2 beta. That's all working well and my old cgi-bin type stuff works under mod_perl great. Now I'm trying to get more into the mod_perl specific stuff and when I: use Apache::DBI I'm getting a can't find Apache.pm To use Apache::DBI do I need the old mod_perl 1 also installed running some kind of "dual mode"? Or is that not even an option since I'm running Apache2. I'm learning quick so if this is covered someplace just give me a quick pointer. Thanks! -Zac Morris http://www.zacwolf.com - Original Message - From: "Stas Bekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Perrin Harkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Ask Bjoern Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89 > Perrin Harkins wrote: > > Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > >> In the last almost 3 years only two bugs has been found. Edmund no > >> longer has time to make releases and such, so I fixed the last bug > >> and made a new release which is available on CPAN. > > > > > > Thanks for taking over maintenance on this. Any thoughts about how to > > add support for threading in perl 5.8/mod_perl 2 to this? It might be > > premature, since the DBI/DBD modules are not necessarilly thread safe. > > the preforked mpm will use the same old Apache::DBI > > the threaded mpms will need a new version/mode of Apache::DBI using > threads::shared, currently available only for 5.8.0-tobe, unless things > will get backported to 5.6.2. Currently it seems that the threaded mpms > will be safe to use only with 5.8.0, unless again things will get > backported. Otherwise chances are that 5.8.0 will be a requirement. > > Originally Doug was planning on Apache::DBIPool described in his 2.0 > overview: > http://perl.apache.org/release/docs/2.0/user/overview/overview.html#Apache__ DBIPool > but since we now have threads::shared it's not needed anymore. > > __ > Stas BekmanJAm_pH --> Just Another mod_perl Hacker > http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com > http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com >
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89
Stas Bekman wrote: > the threaded mpms will need a new version/mode of Apache::DBI using > threads::shared, currently available only for 5.8.0-tobe, unless things > will get backported to 5.6.2. Currently it seems that the threaded mpms > will be safe to use only with 5.8.0, unless again things will get > backported. Otherwise chances are that 5.8.0 will be a requirement. I saw that message, which is why I mentioned 5.8, but I was wondering if anyone has seen discussion of whether or not DBI will be safe to use with 5.8 threads. Does anyone know? - Perrin
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89
Perrin Harkins wrote: > Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > >> In the last almost 3 years only two bugs has been found. Edmund no >> longer has time to make releases and such, so I fixed the last bug >> and made a new release which is available on CPAN. > > > Thanks for taking over maintenance on this. Any thoughts about how to > add support for threading in perl 5.8/mod_perl 2 to this? It might be > premature, since the DBI/DBD modules are not necessarilly thread safe. the preforked mpm will use the same old Apache::DBI the threaded mpms will need a new version/mode of Apache::DBI using threads::shared, currently available only for 5.8.0-tobe, unless things will get backported to 5.6.2. Currently it seems that the threaded mpms will be safe to use only with 5.8.0, unless again things will get backported. Otherwise chances are that 5.8.0 will be a requirement. Originally Doug was planning on Apache::DBIPool described in his 2.0 overview: http://perl.apache.org/release/docs/2.0/user/overview/overview.html#Apache__DBIPool but since we now have threads::shared it's not needed anymore. __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH --> Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > In the last almost 3 years only two bugs has been found. Edmund no > longer has time to make releases and such, so I fixed the last bug > and made a new release which is available on CPAN. Thanks for taking over maintenance on this. Any thoughts about how to add support for threading in perl 5.8/mod_perl 2 to this? It might be premature, since the DBI/DBD modules are not necessarilly thread safe. - Perrin
[ANNOUNCE] Apache::DBI 0.89
Since early 1997 Edmund Mergl has been developing and maintaining Apache::DBI. I would think that it's now one of the most used Apache related modules (and one of the most stable!) In the last almost 3 years only two bugs has been found. Edmund no longer has time to make releases and such, so I fixed the last bug and made a new release which is available on CPAN. Download here: http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/ABH/Apache-DBI-0.89.tar.gz Change file here; http://cvs.perl.org/cvsweb/Apache/DBI/Changes?rev=1.2&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup CVS instructions here: http://cvs.perl.org/info?module=Apache/DBI - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
