Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)

2000-08-23 Thread martin langhoff

I found the one that Luis suggested, (acmemail) and a few more,
including WING. These 2 are the only ones programmed to take advantage
of mod_perl. I fear the other ones are not mod_perl aware, so the may
not be safe/efficient under mod_perl, so my choices are mainly between
these two. 

Acmemail is nicely documented, and seems 'ready to go' (tempting!),
although I fear it may not be as configurable as I want. Do you know
anything about it? 

WING (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mbeattie/wing) on the other hand, seems to
offer raw power, but all it offers is a bare webpage without much actual
implementation details. 

please don't think I was bought by the eyecandy in acmemail page
(http://www.astray.com/acmemail), but I need a working solution in a
reasonable timeframe. Acmemail seems to need some tweaking to make it
work. WING, well, either I didn't understand well or needs me to study
the man pages of its modules and design and code an implementation.



Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)

2000-08-23 Thread Leon Brocard

martin langhoff sent the following bits through the ether:

 Acmemail is nicely documented, and seems 'ready to go' (tempting!),
 although I fear it may not be as configurable as I want. Do you know
 anything about it? 

As the main developer of acmemail, I'd actually go for WING - acmemail
is getting there, but recently development has slowed quite a lot. We
have lots of great plans but not really enough time to implement
anything. It currently scales fairly badly too. OTOH the documentation
is very good, and, of course, it's very pretty ;-)

It looked like we were getting critical mass with the number of people
interested in helping development, but no-one has actually contributed
any code recently. It *was* going to make a good case on how open
source development can succeed :-(

Development will start again as soon as yapc::Europe is over and
people get back from holiday, honest. Scalability will really only
happen when I can get some beefy servers to test it on.

btw you could have asked this on the acmemail and WING lists,
surely?

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europe - September 22-24 London - http://yapc.org/Europe/

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Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)

2000-08-23 Thread David Hodgkinson


Leon!

 Development will start again as soon as yapc::Europe is over and
 people get back from holiday, honest. Scalability will really only
 happen when I can get some beefy servers to test it on.

What are the scalability issues? I'm looking at the possiblity of
doing this for some hundreds of thousands of users. If I could staple
WING onto the Template Toolkit AND it scaled, I'd be in hog
heaven. What templater are you using?

Cheers,

-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire
  -



Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)

2000-08-23 Thread entropic

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:51:22PM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote:
   
   Leon!
   
Development will start again as soon as yapc::Europe is over and
people get back from holiday, honest. Scalability will really only
happen when I can get some beefy servers to test it on.
   
   What are the scalability issues? I'm looking at the possiblity of
   doing this for some hundreds of thousands of users. If I could staple
   WING onto the Template Toolkit AND it scaled, I'd be in hog
   heaven. What templater are you using?

Wing scales well.  Its the 'imap' server where you will have issues. I use
wing with imap-uw and about 50 'trusted' users.  

I'm looking into a 'ldap' email alternative. But haven't learned the reality 
there.  If I find 'ldap email' is sane, I'm going to hack Wing's 'maild' for my
needs.

good luck, Wendell




Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)

2000-08-23 Thread brian moseley

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wing scales well.  Its the 'imap' server where you will
 have issues. I use wing with imap-uw and about 50
 'trusted' users.

what issues will you have with the imap server?

 I'm looking into a 'ldap' email alternative. But haven't
 learned the reality there.  If I find 'ldap email' is
 sane, I'm going to hack Wing's 'maild' for my needs.

*cough*




Re: Acmemail vs WING (was Re: mod_perl-friendly webmail solutions?)

2000-08-23 Thread martin langhoff

entropic,

is WING something I can deploy and configure/customize (like most
webmail solutions) or should code the interface to get it to work?

does it support imap folders and address books? 

martin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Wing scales well.  Its the 'imap' server where you will have issues. I use
 wing with imap-uw and about 50 'trusted' users.