Re: Calling an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script
Andrew Ho wrote: I've been investigating other template systems to try to find similar functionality in an existing package for a non-Tellme related project and haven't been able to find any embedded-Perl solutions that can be called from a .pl and still have the benefits of template caching. Apache::ASP doesn't seem like the best fit for this, if you really don't want to use pages as controllers. You can use Text::Template (just keep a cache of the templates in a global hash) or Template Toolkit for this (yes, it does allow in-line Perl). It also may be possible to do this with Mason. - Perrin
Calling an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script
Hello,
Apologies if this has been asked before; I searched the archives but
couldn't find a reference to this. It's been discussed in the context of
MVC design a while back, but I don't have a solid answer to the following
question: can you call an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script?
Couched in MVC terminology, can I forward control from a .pl controller to
a .asp template, and pass arguments in a natural way?
I can imagine doing an internal redirect, and passing arguments via
pnotes()... but something like this would be way cooler:
Inside caller.pl:
use Apache::ASP ();
Apache::ASP-forward('template.asp', @args);
Inside template.asp:
% my @args = @_ %
My arguments were: %= join ', ', @args %.
Using an internal redirect you'd have to find the previous request and its
pnotes, and do various other mucky stuff. Of course the interface above is
kind of arbitrary. You could choose some ASP style object to cram the
passed parameters into, or have a built in program call to retrieve
parameters passed from the caller.
Humbly,
Andrew
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Re: Calling an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script
Andrew Ho wrote:
Hello,
Apologies if this has been asked before; I searched the archives but
couldn't find a reference to this. It's been discussed in the context of
MVC design a while back, but I don't have a solid answer to the following
question: can you call an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script?
Couched in MVC terminology, can I forward control from a .pl controller to
a .asp template, and pass arguments in a natural way?
...
The safest thing to do right now would probably be to do an external
redirect to the ASP page like:
Apache-request-header_out('Location', script.asp?$ARGS);
I do not think you would be able to pull off an internal redirect,
or you might, but there might be complications if the first script
tried to read POST input on STDIN, and then the ASP script tried also,
there would probably be a hang.
You could also call the registry/cgi as an asp script directly
and have access to the ASP API like:
# cgi wrapper script.asp, works with inline includes ( DynamicIncludes 0 )
% !--#include file=script.pl-- %
or
% do script.pl; %
then the script.pl could do all the ASP API calls it likes as in:
# script.pl
...
$Server-Transfer('redirect_to.asp', @args);
...
If what you really want is to simply load an external ASP script
as a template for further processing in the script.pl, and you
only want to run script.pl as an Apache::Registry script, there
is not an API for doing this currently.
--Josh
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NodeWorks Founder Huntington Beach, CA USA
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Re: Calling an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script
Hello,
AH...can you call an Apache::ASP page from an Apache::Registry script?
AHCouched in MVC terminology, can I forward control from a .pl controller
AHto a .asp template, and pass arguments in a natural way?
JCThe safest thing to do right now would probably be to do an external
JCredirect to the ASP page like:
JC Apache-request-header_out('Location', script.asp?$ARGS);
Thanks for the quick response. I didn't think of the POST data reading
conflict. A related question, is there any way to make Apache::ASP not
initialize its $Request object by default? This is the only blocker from
using the Apache::Request API in an Apache::ASP page.
JCIf what you really want is to simply load an external ASP script as a
JCtemplate for further processing in the script.pl, and you only want to
JCrun script.pl as an Apache::Registry script, there is not an API for
JCdoing this currently.
Specifically what I'm trying to do is to emulate $Server-Transfer but
from an Apache::Registry script. I don't need to further process the
Apache::ASP template in the Apache::Registry script.
I think an .asp that has % at the top of the file and % at the end of it
would be similar; but I'd prefer using Apache::Registry to (1) eliminate
the % % tokens and more importantly (2) continue using the
Apache::Request interface which I'm used to.
We actually wrote our own template language at Tellme a long time ago to
support specifically this paradigm, which is really convenient for simple
templates (we considered releasing it--running templates is usually as
fast as or faster than running Apache::Registry scripts--but just then,
there was a don't write another stupid template system flame war, so we
decided not to!). It's also super convenient for MVC style programming
(modules are the M, Apache::Registry scripts the C, templates the V).
I've been investigating other template systems to try to find similar
functionality in an existing package for a non-Tellme related project and
haven't been able to find any embedded-Perl solutions that can be called
from a .pl and still have the benefits of template caching. I prefer
embedded Perl because it's so convenient for little niceties (for example,
Your search found %= $n || 'no' % document%= $n == 1 ? '' : 's' %.)
that real-world HTML interfaces need.
So that's what I'm looking for. :)
Humbly,
Andrew
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