RE: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-13 Thread Nathan Torkington
Mark Schoonover writes:
 Are there plans to do the University again??

Every year or two I try again to revive it.  Your message started me
again this year.  No promises, but we're looking into it.

 Thanks Nat for the work you did down here!! 

Thanks for your kind words.  I love every minute of being at a
conference, so it's hard to describe it as work.[*]

Nat
[*] Just don't ask me about the minutes organizing the conference before
it all happens :-)




Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-10 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Nathan == Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nathan Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Nathan Portland hotel).  The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
Nathan remote, compared to the Portland hotel.  I think people are really
Nathan going to enjoy being in the middle of a city at this year's OSCON.

Yes... the number of things that are within walking distance of the
hotel is rather nice.  The waterfront park should be rather
spectacular, especially at night when the 14 bridges across the
Willamette are lit up in their own unique ways.

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Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-10 Thread Gunther Birznieks


Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

Nathan == Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Nathan Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Nathan Portland hotel).  The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
Nathan remote, compared to the Portland hotel.  I think people are really
Nathan going to enjoy being in the middle of a city at this year's OSCON.

Yes... the number of things that are within walking distance of the
hotel is rather nice.  The waterfront park should be rather
spectacular, especially at night when the 14 bridges across the
Willamette are lit up in their own unique ways.


I agree. No matter what, speaking as someone who hasn't travelled around 
America all that much, I think it's fun to know that the OSCon is in 
different places every couple of years and to get exposed to those places.

Also, speaking as someone who earns money in a non-US currency, having a 
less expensive place to stay at is much nicer. I am sure the 
self-employed in the US also feel similarly... (ie anyone who doesn't 
have a company paying for it...and isn't a shareholder of that company).

Later,
  Gunther




RE: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote:

 Mark Schoonover writes:
  Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)

 Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
 Portland hotel).  The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
 remote, compared to the Portland hotel.  I think people are really
 going to enjoy being in the middle of a city at this year's OSCON.

Hallelujah to that, brother!  San Diego was gorgeous, and the hotel was
nice, but I didn't rent a car, and just doing stuff like getting to the
city for lunch (on the days when lunch wasn't served) was a giant PITA,
compounded by the fact that I'm vegan, so I can't go just anywhere and be
guaranteed that they'll have something I'd want.

And a less-expensive place is also a good thing.  The San Diego Sheraton
was _expensive_, and since I'll be footing the bill (hopefully only
partially if I can get a tutorial accepted ;) cheaper is good!


-dave

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RE: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Schoonover
Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)

.mark

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Subject: Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings


One of the other things I disliked about the last OSCON was the missing
Perl Conference Proceedings.  I still have very fond memories of reading
about
Damians very sick, very twisted, Coy.pm in the 1999 Perl Conference
Proceedings.

Did anyone else notice that they weren't made available at the last OSCON?

Any chance we could convince O'Reilly to bring that back?

Rob




RE: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-09 Thread Nathan Torkington
Mark Schoonover writes:
 Any chance they will bring it back to San Diego?? :)

Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Portland hotel).  The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
remote, compared to the Portland hotel.  I think people are really
going to enjoy being in the middle of a city at this year's OSCON.

Nat




Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-09 Thread Nathan Torkington
Robert Landrum writes:
 One of the other things I disliked about the last OSCON was the missing
 Perl Conference Proceedings.

They didn't appear because we didn't have time at O'Reilly to do it.
They're prepared in Framemaker, to fit with our style guide, and take
a huge and painful amount of time to do.  Jon Orwant did them in 2000,
I did them in 2001, and nobody had time to do them in 2002.  I can't
see them in 2003, either, as we're not soliciting refereed papers this
year.

We do make presentation materials available online after the conference
ends, for what that's worth.

Nat




Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-09 Thread Robert Landrum
One of the other things I disliked about the last OSCON was the missing
Perl Conference Proceedings.  I still have very fond memories of reading about
Damians very sick, very twisted, Coy.pm in the 1999 Perl Conference Proceedings.

Did anyone else notice that they weren't made available at the last OSCON?

Any chance we could convince O'Reilly to bring that back?

Rob