Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, Andy Wardley wrote:
 Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
 Perl ?
 
 There are two in development that I know about, Iaijutsu and Istore:
 
   http://www.ninjacode.com/iaijutsu
   http://www.employees.org/~hdumcke/IStore/IStore-0.02.tar.gz
 
 We've been having some discussion on the templates list about how best to
 combine the various efforts into one coherent application server suite.
 There's quite some way to go until we have a "finished product", but the ball
 is rolling and things are looking encouraging so far.

It's interesting to see such projects going on (especially since I was/am
working on one myself too). I'm currently working with a
product called "Mediasurface" - some people may have heard of it.
Unfortunately it just does some things all wrong, so I'm kinda working on
something like that - but doing everything right :)

Anyone think choice is a bad thing and I should work with the other
projects?

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Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, Chuck O'Donnell wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:05:06PM +0400, BeerBong wrote:
  Hello all!
  
  Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
  Perl ?
  What do you can recommend ?
  Where I can search for its ?
 
 Mason has one http://www.masonhq.com

Mason is (IIRC) a component based development system - not a content
management system. Think of a system that automatically takes care of
object management, versioning, a test and live server, an admin front end
(be it web based or not) and you've got a content management system. Throw
in something like mason for developing components and you've got something
really interesting for non-hardcore developers. They're not for everyone,
but in certain cases they can make life easier.

-- 
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Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Jason Bodnar

I attended the session on WebDav and Apache at the OpenSource conference. At
the time the versioning stuff wasn't done but the concept seemed really
promising. It probably be worth a look if you want to do content management.

On 02-Dec-99 Matt Sergeant wrote:
 On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, Andy Wardley wrote:
 Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
 Perl ?
 
 There are two in development that I know about, Iaijutsu and Istore:
 
   http://www.ninjacode.com/iaijutsu
   http://www.employees.org/~hdumcke/IStore/IStore-0.02.tar.gz
 
 We've been having some discussion on the templates list about how best to
 combine the various efforts into one coherent application server suite.
 There's quite some way to go until we have a "finished product", but the
 ball
 is rolling and things are looking encouraging so far.
 
 It's interesting to see such projects going on (especially since I was/am
 working on one myself too). I'm currently working with a
 product called "Mediasurface" - some people may have heard of it.
 Unfortunately it just does some things all wrong, so I'm kinda working on
 something like that - but doing everything right :)
 
 Anyone think choice is a bad thing and I should work with the other
 projects?
 
 -- 
 Matt/
 
 Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases.
 Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions
 Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org
 Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.

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Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Pouneh Mortazavi

 It's interesting to see such projects going on (especially since I was/am
 working on one myself too). I'm currently working with a
 product called "Mediasurface" - some people may have heard of it.
 Unfortunately it just does some things all wrong, so I'm kinda working on
 something like that - but doing everything right :)

is mediasurface a UK java-based content management system? my best friend
wrote that if so

mizooon


 Anyone think choice is a bad thing and I should work with the other
 projects?
 
 -- 
 Matt/
 
 Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases.
 Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions
 Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org
 Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.
 



Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, Pouneh Mortazavi wrote:
  It's interesting to see such projects going on (especially since I was/am
  working on one myself too). I'm currently working with a
  product called "Mediasurface" - some people may have heard of it.
  Unfortunately it just does some things all wrong, so I'm kinda working on
  something like that - but doing everything right :)
 
 is mediasurface a UK java-based content management system? my best friend
 wrote that if so

OK, err.. no comment :)

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Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Barry Robison

On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:08:19PM +, Matt Sergeant wrote:
 On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, Chuck O'Donnell wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:05:06PM +0400, BeerBong wrote:
   Hello all!
   
   Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
   Perl ?
   What do you can recommend ?
   Where I can search for its ?
  
  Mason has one http://www.masonhq.com
 
 Mason is (IIRC) a component based development system - not a content
 management system. Think of a system that automatically takes care of
 object management, versioning, a test and live server, an admin front end
 (be it web based or not) and you've got a content management system. Throw
 in something like mason for developing components and you've got something
 really interesting for non-hardcore developers. They're not for everyone,
 but in certain cases they can make life easier.

Mason itself is a component based development system, however there is a CM system 
developed with it.

http://www.masonhq.com/Mason-CM/

--

Mason Content Management, Release 0.3b

We are proud to announce the initial public release of the Mason Content Management 
system. Content Management makes it easy to navigate the content of a website and 
manage the workflow of information as it moves from staging to the live, production 
web site.
Content Management features:
* Easily navigate multiple filesystems: create, copy, rename and edit files and 
directories
* Search for files based on file name or contents
* Trigger (copy) files between staging and production sites
* Track changes between staging and production, save versions (via Rcs)
* Edit files on staging, with an integrated, HTML-friendly spell-checker
* File locking protects multiple users from editing the same file
* Control access to directories on a per-user basis

We'll be putting up a demo of Content Management soon here on MasonHQ, but in the 
meantime, download a copy and let me know what you think. You can also have a look at 
the user manual.

Enjoy,
Mark Schmick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Content management system

1999-12-02 Thread Chuck O'Donnell

On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:08:19PM +, Matt Sergeant wrote:
 On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, Chuck O'Donnell wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:05:06PM +0400, BeerBong wrote:
   Hello all!
   
   Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
   Perl ?
   What do you can recommend ?
   Where I can search for its ?
  
  Mason has one http://www.masonhq.com
 
 Mason is (IIRC) a component based development system - not a content
 management system. Think of a system that automatically takes care of
 object management, versioning, a test and live server, an admin front end
 (be it web based or not) and you've got a content management system. Throw
 in something like mason for developing components and you've got something
 really interesting for non-hardcore developers. They're not for everyone,
 but in certain cases they can make life easier.

I guess I should have been more specific... I think the Mason guys
have created a fairly nice content management system built on top of
the Mason component framework. The following is taken from the Mason
site (http://www.masonhq.com/Mason-CM/)

---

  We are proud to announce the initial public release of the Mason
  Content Management system. Content Management makes it easy to
  navigate the content of a website and manage the workflow of
  information as it moves from staging to the live, production web
  site.
  
  Content Management features: 
  
  * Easily navigate multiple filesystems: create, copy, rename and edit
files and directories
  * Search for files based on file name or contents 
  * Trigger (copy) files between staging and production sites
  * Track changes between staging and production, save versions (via
Rcs)
  * Edit files on staging, with an integrated, HTML-friendly
spell-checker
  * File locking protects multiple users from editing the same file
  * Control access to directories on a per-user basis
  
  We'll be putting up a demo of Content Management soon here on
  MasonHQ, but in the meantime, download a copy and let me know what
  you think. You can also have a look at the user manual.

---

I haven't used the content management system, but we've been using
Mason for quite a while, and find it to be a very stable and usable
application framework.

Thanks,

Chuck



Re: Content management system

1999-12-01 Thread darren chamberlain

Try searching freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/).

darren

BeerBong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hello all!
 
 Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
 Perl ?
 What do you can recommend ?
 Where I can search for its ?
 
 --
 Sergey Polyakov (BeerBong)
 Chief of Web Lab (http://www.mustdie.ru/~beerbong)

-- 
Jesus saves, passes to Moses; shoots, SCORES!



Re: Content management system

1999-12-01 Thread BeerBong

 Try searching freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/).

I found Zope there :)


 darren

 BeerBong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Hello all!
 
  Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler
on
  Perl ?
  What do you can recommend ?
  Where I can search for its ?
 
  --
  Sergey Polyakov (BeerBong)
  Chief of Web Lab (http://www.mustdie.ru/~beerbong)

 --
 Jesus saves, passes to Moses; shoots, SCORES!




Re: Content management system

1999-12-01 Thread Andy Wardley

Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
Perl ?

There are two in development that I know about, Iaijutsu and Istore:

  http://www.ninjacode.com/iaijutsu
  http://www.employees.org/~hdumcke/IStore/IStore-0.02.tar.gz

We've been having some discussion on the templates list about how best to
combine the various efforts into one coherent application server suite.
There's quite some way to go until we have a "finished product", but the ball
is rolling and things are looking encouraging so far.


A

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