Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")

2001-03-20 Thread Jauder Ho


Unfortunately it is a requirement for this project. We need to parse utf8
XML and munge other XML using that data. I seem to have everything working
now although I had to fix some stuff in XML::DOM.

--Jauder

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:

> Hi ,
> Unicode is a way of pain . don't go this way .
> specialy in 5.7.0 were it is broken .
> 5.6.0 is  well you know what .
> There is many other systems to hold multilingual apps , that not require any
> unicode .
>
> I use 5.7.0 in production (i386 , BSD 4.2) and it runs perfectly . Except
> unicode
> support. 5.6.0 has a lot of bugs (witch were fixed in 5.7.0)
>
> Best
> Cb
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jauder Ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bogomolnyi Constantin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")
>
>
> >
> > Hello there, could you detail a little more about your Unicode experience
> > with perl? I am currently evaluating what the best verion of perl to use
> > for a multilingual application. Thanks.
> >
> > --Jauder
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ,
> > >
> > > You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
> > > should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)
> > >
> > > I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .
> > >
> > > Best
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Wim Kerkhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "modperl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")
> > >
> > >
> > > > Stas Bekman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as
> 5.6 is
> > > > > not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production
> sites,
> > > > > therefore the guide barely touches on it.
> > > >
> > > > Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
> > > > saying is making me queasy.
> > > >
> > > > I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
> > > > some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
> > > > comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things
> aren't
> > > > locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the
> applications
> > > > I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I
> may
> > > > downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Wim Kerkhoff
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>




Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")

2001-03-19 Thread Bogomolnyi Constantin

Hi ,
Unicode is a way of pain . don't go this way .
specialy in 5.7.0 were it is broken .
5.6.0 is  well you know what .
There is many other systems to hold multilingual apps , that not require any
unicode .

I use 5.7.0 in production (i386 , BSD 4.2) and it runs perfectly . Except
unicode
support. 5.6.0 has a lot of bugs (witch were fixed in 5.7.0)

Best
Cb

- Original Message -
From: "Jauder Ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bogomolnyi Constantin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")


>
> Hello there, could you detail a little more about your Unicode experience
> with perl? I am currently evaluating what the best verion of perl to use
> for a multilingual application. Thanks.
>
> --Jauder
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:
>
> > Hi ,
> >
> > You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
> > should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)
> >
> > I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .
> >
> > Best
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Wim Kerkhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "modperl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")
> >
> >
> > > Stas Bekman wrote:
> > >
> > > > our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as
5.6 is
> > > > not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production
sites,
> > > > therefore the guide barely touches on it.
> > >
> > > Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
> > > saying is making me queasy.
> > >
> > > I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
> > > some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
> > > comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things
aren't
> > > locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the
applications
> > > I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I
may
> > > downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Wim Kerkhoff
> > >
> >
> >
>




Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")

2001-03-17 Thread Dave Rolsky

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:

> You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
> should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)
>
> I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .

5.7.0 may have fixed some of the bugs of 5.6.0 but it is a dev release
(anything where the subversion is odd is a dev release).  I don't think
anyone working on the Perl core would recommend the use of a dev release
in production unless you absolutely need a piece of functionality present
in that particular dev release.

I'd suggest using 5.00503 until 5.6.1 comes out, which should fix lots of
bugs.


-dave

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Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")

2001-03-17 Thread Bogomolnyi Constantin

Hi ,

You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)

I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .

Best
- Original Message -
From: "Wim Kerkhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "modperl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")


> Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as 5.6 is
> > not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production sites,
> > therefore the guide barely touches on it.
>
> Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
> saying is making me queasy.
>
> I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
> some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
> comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things aren't
> locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the applications
> I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I may
> downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Wim Kerkhoff
>




Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")

2001-03-16 Thread Stas Bekman

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Wim Kerkhoff wrote:

> Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as 5.6 is
> > not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production sites,
> > therefore the guide barely touches on it.
>
> Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
> saying is making me queasy.
>
> I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
> some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
> comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things aren't
> locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the applications
> I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I may
> downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...

Please search the archives. There were reports of problems with perl5.6,
Doug has submitted quite a few fixes for 5.6 to make it working with
mod_perl. I'm not sure whether perl5.6-PATCH2 is bugless with regard to
mod_perl. Not to mention possible problems that has nothing to do with
mod_perl, but are general Perl issues.

Therefore I still use 5.00503 on my production sites. But some people are
using 5.6 without any problems on their production sites.

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Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")

2001-03-16 Thread Wim Kerkhoff

Stas Bekman wrote:

> our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as 5.6 is
> not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production sites,
> therefore the guide barely touches on it.

Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
saying is making me queasy.

I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things aren't
locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the applications
I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I may
downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...

-- 

Regards,

Wim Kerkhoff