Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Randy W. Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-14 01:40]:
 It would be much nicer if it was readable as a nntp or at least
 a mailing list; I've always found http-based discussion boardss
 awkward to navigate and difficult to figure out what I have and
 haven't read.  Wonder why this hasn't been done?

For NNTP, it has. One to run on your own[1] and one available
publically[2].

As a mailinglist, I don't think so, but it's an idea I've
personally been toying with.

* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-14 03:06]:
 Also, you can the voting feature to help keep track of what
 yo've read.  Just vote everything you read up or down. :)
 Admittedly, that strategy works best once you've been there a
 while and have lots of votes to use.

Noone gets enough votes for that: the maximum is 40/day. New
users don't even get any at all, and once they clock up some XP
they get 5. Not really an adequate bookmarking mechanism.

The Newest Nodes page[3] helps though, and there's an XML
ticker[4] you can use to keep track of things with a custom
client of your own. The NNTP gateways mentioned above make use of
exactly that.

[1] http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=102226
[1] http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=304347
[3] http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node=Newest%20Nodes
[4] http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=30175

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Regards,
Aristotle
 
If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough.


Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-13 Thread IvorW
- Original Message - 
From: Jose Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IvorW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 May 2004 11:23
Subject: Re: Duplicated modules


 
  Having said that, are we just reinventing Perlmonks?
 
 That, I do not know... :-|

Ah, you do not know of the monastery. Check out http://perlmonks.org, 
which is a thriving on-line community and discussion forum, which is
completely searchable.

Perlmonks is not everybody's cup of tea (sorry, please excuse the UK idiom),
but everyone must admit that the site has an extensive linked set of
documentation, which includes numerous tutorials and FAQs which can be
used as reference, even when not actively participating in the site.


Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-13 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 5/13/2004 7:19 PM, IvorW wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: Jose Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IvorW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 May 2004 11:23
Subject: Re: Duplicated modules



Having said that, are we just reinventing Perlmonks?
That, I do not know... :-|


Ah, you do not know of the monastery. Check out http://perlmonks.org, 
which is a thriving on-line community and discussion forum, which is
completely searchable.

Perlmonks is not everybody's cup of tea (sorry, please excuse the UK idiom),
but everyone must admit that the site has an extensive linked set of
documentation, which includes numerous tutorials and FAQs which can be
used as reference, even when not actively participating in the site.
It would be much nicer if it was readable as a nntp or at least a 
mailing list; I've always found http-based discussion boardss awkward to 
navigate and difficult to figure out what I have and haven't read. 
Wonder why this hasn't been done?

Randy.




Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-13 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 07:38:51PM -0400, Randy W. Sims wrote:
 
 It would be much nicer if [perlmonks] was readable as a nntp or at least a 
 mailing list; I've always found http-based discussion boardss awkward to 
 navigate and difficult to figure out what I have and haven't read. 
 Wonder why this hasn't been done?

There is an RSS feed:
http://www.perlmonks.org/headlines.rdf

RSS readers often help you manage what you have and haven't read. I like
to use 'snownews' in a terminal.

Also, you can the voting feature to help keep track of what yo've read.
Just vote everything you read up or down. :) Admittedly, that strategy
works best once you've been there a while and have lots of votes to use.

Mark

-- 
http://mark.stosberg.com/ 


Duplicated modules

2004-05-11 Thread Jose Alves de Castro
Take a look at the CPAN. Search for Roman. There's Roman,
Math::Roman, Text::Roman, Convert::Number::Roman, etc...

Isn't this duplicated effort? :-|

Besides, this may prevent the user from having all the available
functionalities without installing all of those modules... :-| And I'm
sure this isn't the only case.

What can be done about it?

If I have an improvement that could go on some of those modules, should
I e-mail all of the authors? :-|

-- 
Jos Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telbit - Tecnologias de Informao



Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-11 Thread Andy Lester
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:33:00PM +0100, Jose Alves de Castro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 What can be done about it?

You're asking us?  As if the topic hasn't been beaten to death over the
years?

Maybe the first thing that should be done about it is to have a FAQ that
addresses all the arguments and discussions.

 If I have an improvement that could go on some of those modules, should
 I e-mail all of the authors? :-|

I don't see why not.

-- 
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Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-11 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:33:00PM +0100, Jose Alves de Castro wrote:
 Take a look at the CPAN. Search for Roman. There's Roman,
 Math::Roman, Text::Roman, Convert::Number::Roman, etc...
 
 Isn't this duplicated effort? :-|
 
 Besides, this may prevent the user from having all the available
 functionalities without installing all of those modules... :-| And I'm
 sure this isn't the only case.
 
 What can be done about it?

I'm a fan of using the 'rating' system available from each module page.
As ratings and comments accumulate, it will become easier for future
visitors to figure out which modules are worthwhile and why.

(It's certainly not a total solution, though! )

Mark


Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-11 Thread Jose Alves de Castro
On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 14:50, Andy Lester wrote:
 You're asking us?  As if the topic hasn't been beaten to death over the
 years?

Sorry... I didn't know that... :-|

Still... if it has been beaten to death over the years, it appears to me
it isn't quite dead, right?

 Maybe the first thing that should be done about it is to have a FAQ that
 addresses all the arguments and discussions.

I agree with that...

-- 
Jos Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telbit - Tecnologias de Informao