[MOPO] FA: Our 220 Auctions End Sunday Evening
Just wanted to send out a friendly reminder that our fantastic listing of auctions is ending Sunday evening and of the over 200 items listed there are still dozens of items without a single bid - including lobby cards from Bullitt, Dr. No., a great Monster card from Navy vs. The Night Monster, a classic Machine Gun Kelly card, and even some of the poster like Strangers on a Train, Blade Runner, and Moonraker. As usual, everything is listed with NO Reserve and a starting price of under $10. You don't have to worry about exploding your budget, or if there will be any good deals - there will be. And best of all - everything is TOTALLY UNRESTORED AND GUARANTEED ORIGINAL! You can check all of our auctions out by clicking on this link - Platinum Posters http://shop.ebay.com/platinumposters/m.html Or check out a few of the great highlights and bargains we have listed below: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320415625235ssPageName= STRK:MESELX:IT Creature From the Black Lagoon Finnish Poster http://cgi.ebay.com/FORBIDDEN-PLANET-Insert-Classic-Sci-Fi-Robby-Robot_W0QQ itemZ320415657878QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a42ef96_ trksid=p3911.c0.m14 Forbidden Planet Insert http://cgi.ebay.com/HORRORS-OF-SPIDER-ISLAND-Finnish-Poster-Crazy-Monster_W 0QQitemZ320415625644QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a4271a c_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 Horrors Of Spider Island Finnish Poster http://cgi.ebay.com/INVISIBLE-AGENT-Insert-Universal-Horror-War_W0QQitemZ32 0415664601QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a4309d9_trksid= p3911.c0.m14 Invisible Agent Insert http://cgi.ebay.com/IT-TERROR-FROM-BEYOND-SPACE-Finnish-Poster-Monster_W0QQ itemZ320415625780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a427234_ trksid=p3911.c0.m14 It! Terror From Beyond Space Finnish Poster http://cgi.ebay.com/LADY-THE-MONSTER-Title-Card-Crazy-Horror_W0QQitemZ32041 5613729QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a424321_trksid=p39 11.c0.m14 Lady The Monster Title Card http://cgi.ebay.com/MAN-BAIT-Title-Card-Sexy-Diana-Dors_W0QQitemZ3204156137 72QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a42434c_trksid=p3911.c0 .m14 Man Bait Title Card http://cgi.ebay.com/MUDHONEY-Lobby-Card-Russ-Meyer-Sexploitation-Babe_W0QQi temZ320415617420QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a42518c_t rksid=p3911.c0.m14 MudHoney Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ON-THE-MESA-OF-LOST-WOMEN-Lobby-Card-2-Best-Sexy-Girl_W 0QQitemZ320415617506QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a4251e 2_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 On The Mesa of Lost Women Best LC http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320415672204ssPageName= STRK:MESELX:IT Orgy of the Dead One-Sheet Ed Wood http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320415617605ssPageName= STRK:MESELX:IT She Demons Best Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320415627117ssPageName= STRK:MESELX:IT Star Wars Finnish Poster http://cgi.ebay.com/STRANGERS-ON-A-TRAIN-Finnish-Poster-Hitchcock-Thriller_ W0QQitemZ320415626166QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a4273 b6_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 Strangers on a Train Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] The Universal Horror about the Universal Horror...
Philipp - I was thinking about the restorer who did this work and I thought of the irony... As they say in the old horror movies... If only he used his genius for good instead of evil! Glenn T. - Original Message - From: kainb...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] TRUE Fake Horror Lobby Cards AND Posters ALL MOPOs, It is true...people are selling high-end fake posters and lobby cards. A very good friend and most knowledgable big time poster collector recently purchased one of the most expensive Horror one sheet US poster available and it is a fake. Legal actions are being taken against the seller. Philipp -Original Message- From: Michael B dialmbb...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fake Horror Lobby Cards AND Posters knowledge of what is going on (fakes making distribution into the inventories of sellers--EVEN UNKNOWINGLY) will ultimately lead to novice buyers being afraid to buy--even from reputable dealers. i encourage the dissemination of public warnings.but this problem of fakes aint good for the hobby! this is like people not buying Gucci bags on ebay. Only the trained eye would know if it is a fake. BUT-YEScontinue to publicize this and reprot fraud to the appropriate authorities. I doubt if ebay would remove listing due to this isses, and since the bidders are anonymous, you know the rest michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA: Heritage: The Birds, Shanghai Cobra, Halloween, Easy Rider, Ecstasy, Guys Dolls, Roger Rabbit Mylar, more
There are 448 lots in this week's Heritage Internet Auction. Once again, we are featuring a great selection of original movie posters, lobby cards and stills. The auction closes tomorrow, Sunday, August 30th at 10pm CT. http://movieposters.ha.com/?ic=task-movieposters To view all 448 items, please click here: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=54+793+794+791+792+4294959412 Here are links to some more highlights of this week's auction: The Birds (Universal, 1963) Great Alfred Hitchcock One Sheet (27 X 41) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55046 Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Buena Vista, 1988). Gold Mylar One Sheet (27 X 41) Jessica Rabbit Style http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55423 The Shanghai Cobra (Monogram, 1945) Great Sidney Toler - Charlie Chan One Sheet (27 X 41) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55349 Halloween (Compass International, 1978) One Sheet (27 X 41) Rare Blue Rating Box Style http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55192 Easy Rider (Columbia, 1969) Seven Nice Lobby Cards (11 X 14) w/ Fonda, Nicholson Hopper http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55133 Ecstasy (Eureka, R-1940) Great Hedy Lamarr Lobby Card Set of 8 (11 X 14) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55135 The Flying Ace (Norman, 1926) Nice All-Black Cast Aviation One Sheet (27 X 41) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55155 Star Wars (20th Century Fox, 1977) British Quad (30 X 40) Style C http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55378 Guys and Dolls (MGM, 1955) Brando Sinatra One Sheet (27 X 40) Tri-folded http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55189 The Bat Whispers (Atlantic, R-1930s) Great Horror One Sheet (27 X 41) w/ Chester Morris http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=59085Lot_No=55038 Plus hundreds more great items! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FS -GOJKO MITIC, Movie posters about American Indians
Hi, Just I updated my page with Romanian Movie posters about American Indians. http://collectors2.fateback.com/gojkomitic.html Thanks for looking !!! Ioan Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA Hayworth,CaryGrant,Aliens,AgathaChristie,Horror,ReynoldBrown,RareJuliusCaesar
Hi, Everyone, I have about 40 auctions closing on SUNDAY---lots of 2, 3 or even 8 Original US 1-Sheets or Lobby Cards for ONLY $19.99!! Please take a look if you have an extra minute! Link to ALL Auctions and PARTIAL list is below (to show an example of the kind of bargains I'm talking about) Thanks very much, Rick _http://shop.ebay.com/rixposterz/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg_ (http://shop.ebay.com/rixposterz/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg) 3 Orig 50's/60's RITA HAYWORTH US 1-SHEETS FOR ONLY $19.99!!! GREAT TITLES!!! 8 Orig 50's/60's US NATALIE WOOD Lobby Cards--ALL FOR ONLY $19.99!!! MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS + TEN LITTLE INDIANS---2 Orig AGATHA CHRISTIE US 1-SHTS BOTH FOR ONLY $19.99!!! ICE STATION ZEBRA--Orig 1969 US 1-SHT + Orig NM Australian Daybill--BOTH FOR ONLY $19.99!! 4 HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE (Vincente Minnellii,1961) Orig US 1/2 SHT + Orig US Insert MAGNIFICENT REYNOLD BROWN ART! BOTH FOR ONLY $19.99!!! CARY GRANT--I WAS A MALE WAR BRIDE US 1 SHT + 2 MORE Orig Posters!! ALL FOR ONLY $24.99!! PINK PANTHER--7 Item Orig Poster and Lobby Card LOT--ALL FOR ONLY $19.99!! JULIUS CAESAR-- Orig 1953 AUSTRALIAN Daybill (The REAL original, NOT the one that's being PASSED OFF as the Original!) ONLY $19.99!! ALIENS (Sigourney Weaver,1986) 2 Orig Posters + BEST US Lobby Card!! ALL FOR ONLY $19.99!!! 3 Orig 70's US Posters Featuring VINTAGE MOTORCYCLES!! GREAT TITLES!! ALL 3 FOR ONLY $19.99! NOTORIOUS LANDLADY + MORE! 3 Orig KIM NOVAK 50s/60s US Posters ALL FOR ONLY $19.99!! CHINATOWN (Polanski, Nicholson, 1974) 2 Orig MINT US Lobby Cards! BOTH FOR ONLY $14.99!!! PINOCCHIO-- DISNEY ANIMATION + MORE! 2 Orig US 1-SHTS! INCREDIBLE ART! ONLY $19.99!!! 3 Orig 80's WOMEN-IN-TERROR HORROR US 1-SHEETS! GREAT GRAPHICS! ALL FOR $19.99!! EQUUS (Burton, 1977) Orig NEAR MINT US 1-SHT! INCREDIBLE SIGNED BOB PEAK ART! $19.99!! _http://shop.ebay.com/rixposterz/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg_ (http://shop.ebay.com/rixposterz/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg) And these are ONLY A THIRD of my Auctions CLOSING SUNDAY!! PLEASE CHECK THEM OUT!! Thanks very much for your support, Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was *NOT* them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to * http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ *http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
Well, this is an unfortunate episode. I do hope that the perpetrators will be brought to justice, but let's remember that in America, one is innocent until proven guilty. Just because someone is named as a defendent in a lawsuit doesn't mean that he is guilty. Let's see how it all plays out. RDB Richard Del Belso Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:31:31 -0500 From: brucehershen...@gmail.com Subject: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was NOT them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] fakes, backing, etc.
am i correct to believe that it is easier for a currupt seller to pass-off a fake that have never been backed? -- some?of the great character features of any old poster is to see: ?? the studio stamps on the back ?? the occasional imprint on the bottom corner of an insert ?? and---although not from a studio---a seller's OLD OLD OLD notation stating that the cost of the poster is 20, yet you just bought?paid 400!! ?? some aged, minor tape stains minor dicoloring.? THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T CRAVE TO BUY MINT, ROLLED INSERTS HALF SHEETS. UNFORTUNATELY..This stuff might disappear or hidden after backing, and might be lost with restoration.? I thought it humorous yesterday for someone to point out that Magic Markers were not invented until the 1950s, which served as a caution to buyers!!! michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
Thanks Bruce! Check out our shop video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-n2AznLA8o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCP7PaO-2tkfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fojAZcbvL7Efeature=related jim episale Unshredded Nostalgia 323 South main St. Route 9 Barnegat, N.J. 08005 800-872-9990 609-660-2626 Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:32 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was NOT them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id- 242141/ http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id -242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
well I guess it's obvious that the name in the lawsuit is Jaime Mendez John/Jane Doe probably refers to people working in Jaime's studio it's a dark day when top collector and a top restorer get together to perpetrate a fraud for what seems to be well in excess of a million bucks across a small hobby I wonder when teh FBI is going to bring criminal charges Rich At 11:31 AM 8/29/2009, Bruce Hershenson wrote: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was NOT them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
Wow! this is really chilling. I just looked at the lawsuit and googled Kerry Haggard. On seeing his picture I think I've met Haggard last year at Jaime Mendez' studio when I picked up a few posters that JM Studio restored for me while I was on holidays in the US. As I don't know a lot of people I combined my trip with a few visits to pick up stuff I sent from Europe, so to meet the people who I was dealing with. I have to state explicitly that I'm not sure it was KH, but I met this guy who was working with a steamer to peel of old layers from a sixsheet Universal horror poster. He told me he always liked to be there himself when his stuff was restored so that the could discuss and monitor the kind of work to be done himself in setad of emailing and phoning back and forth. I didn't quite catch his name and we were only there for a short time, because the rental car with all our stuff was outside and we had to go our hotel in San Diego. Having said that he was introduced as someone who was in the Jim Gresham league of collecting. I once bought a Invisible Man Realart card from JIm, so that's why I mentioned his name. I am now wondering if I was at the scene of the alleged crime. I certainly hope not as I really liked Jaime Mendez and the people who working there. Wim Op 29 aug 2009, om 20:31 heeft Bruce Hershenson het volgende geschreven: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was NOT them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Frankenstein HS
I wonder if Jaime's studio was the studio who recreated the Frankenstein HS??? I always thought when that was excepted and sold by Heritage, that it was going to open a whole can of worms to our field. Doug Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A sad day for us all..
This is a really sad day for me. Jaime has done quite a bit of work for me over the past 3 or 4 years and I've considered him a friend. Coincidentally, his mentor was Joe Hernandez. There was a time when I considered Joe the greatest movie poster restorer I'd ever encountered (I probably still believe him to have been). But Joe went on a strange downhill slide of lies and deceit and theft that landed him in jail and banished from the hobby. One would think that Jaime would hopefully have learned from his teacher, Joe and not gone astray himself. Sounds like Jaime may have even surpassed Joe in the magnitude of what he's allegedly done. Yes, it's a very sad day, indeed. Not only for me, but for all of us...for the hobby... . Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A sad day for us all..
This truly is a sad day but I would like to remind everyone that nothing has been proven other than the fact that these posters are fake. If you read the allegations, particularly those in Paragraphs 14 and 15 of the complaint that relate to Mendez, there is, in my opinion, a rather large jump to conclusion. Until the case is fully adjudicated, I think everyone should refrain from character assassination. Sue LearnAboutMoviePosters.com _ From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of rixpost...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 02:53 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A sad day for us all.. This is a really sad day for me. Jaime has done quite a bit of work for me over the past 3 or 4 years and I've considered him a friend. Coincidentally, his mentor was Joe Hernandez. There was a time when I considered Joe the greatest movie poster restorer I'd ever encountered (I probably still believe him to have been). But Joe went on a strange downhill slide of lies and deceit and theft that landed him in jail and banished from the hobby. One would think that Jaime would hopefully have learned from his teacher, Joe and not gone astray himself. Sounds like Jaime may have even surpassed Joe in the magnitude of what he's allegedly done. Yes, it's a very sad day, indeed. Not only for me, but for all of us...for the hobby... . Rick _ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
Just found a second, older filing against Kerry at http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-cacdce/case_no-2:2009cv05154/case_id-449339/ . This getting to be like Watergate. For better or for worse, yes, let's get this all out in the daylight. While I agree one is innocent until proven guilty, this appears to be another in series of depressing wake-up calls for me regarding this hobby that has brought me so much joy during the last 47 years. I did not know Jaime well, but I knew him, since I live in the north county area of San Diego, which has turned into Ground Zero for talented restorers. I met Jaime when he worked with Joe Hernandez. Hernandez was always great to me, and I was a bit of a pest, always hanging around gaping at the amazing work being done at his old studio on Seagaze in Oceanside. Hernandez took me around, introduced me to the artists, and let me watch them work their magic on posters I could never afford in a million years. It was a gracious thing to do, and it was a sad day for me when the rumors I started hearing about him turned out to be factual. I really, really liked Eugene Hughes, a funny, personable guy. He's still a great guy to talk to, but he screwed up horribly, and still needs to take responsibility for his actions and make amends to the people he ripped off. Hughes was a black eye for the restoration community, but THIS situation, just in it implications... and, yes, again, I know nothing has been proven... brings a whole new dimension of premeditated greed and blatant criminality into the mix. I expect this kind of behavior from the scumbuckets in the music business, where I have toiled for decades, but this really pisses me off. Greg Douglass Bruce Hershenson wrote: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was *NOT* them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to *http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/* and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A sad day for us all..
Well, I agree with you Rick. It is a sad day and I was beside myself to hear Jaime's name associated with this. You are right that he was the linenbacker under Joe Hernandez, however unfortunately, Joe is not banished from the hobby, despite the hard work I did to accomplish that after he stole thousands of dollars in posters from me and many other collectors. He is still working as several people I know have run into him in Oceanside and he told them. I hope I never see him again. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:53:20 -0400 From: rixpost...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] A sad day for us all.. To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU This is a really sad day for me. Jaime has done quite a bit of work for me over the past 3 or 4 years and I've considered him a friend. Coincidentally, his mentor was Joe Hernandez. There was a time when I considered Joe the greatest movie poster restorer I'd ever encountered (I probably still believe him to have been). But Joe went on a strange downhill slide of lies and deceit and theft that landed him in jail and banished from the hobby. One would think that Jaime would hopefully have learned from his teacher, Joe and not gone astray himself. Sounds like Jaime may have even surpassed Joe in the magnitude of what he's allegedly done. Yes, it's a very sad day, indeed. Not only for me, but for all of us...for the hobby... . Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] favoite Move from a Play
My favorite movie from a play, in fact it borders on being a filmed play with the the stage curtain effect at the beginning is the 1952 Anthony Asquith directed The Importance of Being Earnest. It also comes with one of my favorite lines: Lady Augusta Bracknell: Are your parents living? Jack: I have lost both my parents. Lady Augusta Bracknell: To lose one parent, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness. Also: Lady Augusta Bracknell (delivered as only Edith Evans could): A hndbaaag! Colin Hunter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] WTB: MOON (2009)
Hello, We're looking for the one sheet for MOON (2009). Thanks! Best, Stan Posteritati 239 Centre Street New York, NY 10013 212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102 http://www.posteritati.com/ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Frankenstein HS
From Heritage's description of this poster: This poster has had extensive restoration. The original portion of the poster includes the image of the monster, the FR in Frankenstein and the portrait of Dwight Frye. The rest of the poster has been painted in. This does constitute a large section of the poster, however, it is interesting to observe that the majority of the poster is a white background. The restoration was expertly done by Carol Tincup. Now, that being pointed out, one has to keep in mind that this is the only half sheet that has ever turned up on this title so if you're in the market for that format, this is the only one that is known to exist. As is we grade the poster in fair condition but has an apparent grade of Fine on paper. This was one of the cornerstone pieces in the Collection of Johnny Ramone. Johnny had always wanted an original poster from the 1931 release of Frankenstein and, with the addition of this half sheet to his collection, he achieved that goal. Fair on Paper. Estimate: $25,000 - $35,000. - Original Message - From: Douglas Ball To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:37 AM Subject: [MOPO] Frankenstein HS I wonder if Jaime's studio was the studio who recreated the Frankenstein HS??? I always thought when that was excepted and sold by Heritage, that it was going to open a whole can of worms to our field. Doug Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA: Check out the inserts
I think a lot of people have been looking at the great selection of lobby cards and Finnish posters we’ve offering this week and overlooking some of the other US paper. We’ve got an even dozen inserts up that are all deserving of a second look: BABY DOLL Insert ROLLED Elia Kazan Sex Thriller 1 Bid $9.99 1d 6h 8m CASANOVA'S BIG NIGHT Insert Bob Hope, Fontaine, Burr 0 Bids $9.99 1d 6h 12m FORBIDDEN PLANET Insert Classic Sci-Fi Robby Robot 21 Bids $2,024.99 1d 6h 25m FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE SPACE MONSTER Insert Sci-Fi 2 Bids $10.50 1d 6h 27m GORGO Insert Giant Monster (Godzilla-like) Sci-Fi 3 Bids $16.01 1d 6h 29m GREEN MANSIONS Insert Audrey Hepburn Romantic Adventure 0 Bids $9.99 1d 6h 31m INVISIBLE AGENT Insert Universal Horror/War 3 Bids $41.00 1d 6h 34m LEECH WOMAN Insert Universal Jungle Horror Vampire 3 Bids $36.00 1d 6h 38m MAN WITHOUT A BODY Insert Rolled Horror 3 Bids $12.91 1d 6h 41m MONIKA STORY OF A BAD GIRL Insert Bergman Sexploitation 2 Bids $15.51 1d 6h 42m THIS PROPERTY IS CONDEMNED Insert Nataliw Wood Redford 1 Bid $9.99 1d 6h 51m TWONKY Insert Crazy Future TV Sci-Fi Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
*Up until late last night I had a few fellow friends and collectors email/asking me for a name. So I am glad it is now out in the open as I kindly refused to name that name. Trust me it was and still are a shocker for me. I know I know, innocent until proven guilty, but I still strongly suggest that anyone that publicly endorse their site in some shape or form ( link, accolade, testimonials) Might want to consider removing such until it is all cleared. I would hate to find out that someone road off in to the sunset with a suitcase of posters. End of the day, I hope this is just a silly nightmare and Jamie is cool and we can all get back to posters. So I hope. Best, dario. * Bruce Hershenson wrote: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was *NOT* them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to *http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/* and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage
Since phil had given the description of the half sheet that heritage auctioned for 23,500.00, i though it interesting to show the paint re-creation up close, on that poster. i also am showing the way the art/photo appears from the TC, as the artwork was the same. the painted re-creation is not very good. all 4 actors' depictions are off and rather simplistic in appearance. This can be seen more readily when comparing side by side (or up and down). jeff TC: Half Sheet: Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] A Very Sad Day
The current situation involving fake movie posters and lobbies began to come to light several months ago, when I received a Frankenstein title card and a Dracula window card from a well known auction house. The window card looked good to me but the Frankenstein title card screamed out that something was wrong. The front of the card, which had a great deal of restoration just did not match the card's back. The notion that the front was a restored mechanical reproduction married with a genuine, vintage lobby card back came to mind. I sent the Frankenstein TC to Carol Tincup who concurred that the card was most probably a fake. To say that this situation was disturbing was an understatement. I never thought I'd see the day when fake horror paper could and would be passed off to unsuspecting collectors as the real McCoys. A real game changer. I immediately placed a phone call to the auction house that sold me the Frankenstein TC in question. They took my suspicions seriously and could not be more professional. That phone call began a chain of events that led to the first lawsuit against Kerry Haggard. By the way, the Dracula window card was also a fake. But boy, did it look good. I have seen analysis done on the fakes and have no doubt that reliable ways to weed out the fakes will be available to collectors very, very soon. I am reminded of a book entitled The Billionaire's Vinegar. The similarities between the scandal involving millions of dollars in fake vintage wine and the scandal involving fake vintage posters is pretty startling. Stephen Fishler PS - Does anyone have a real Frankenstein title card and Dracula window card that they can sell me? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
Dario, you bring up an interesting point I had not thought of. What if someone involved in this as a restorer is arrested? Will all the posters in that person's possession be seized as evidence? How long before those posters are released, and what if the person who sent the posters to the restorer does not have a printed signed receipt from the restorer, and the restorer claims the posters as their own property? For that matter, what if an auction house is closed down over this? What will happen to items on consignment at that auction house? These questions are not far-fetched. We all know of several restorers who vanished in the past several years, taking their customers' property with them, and few ever got their posters back or restitution of any kind. And just a few months ago, Mastro Auctions, the number one sports memorabilia auction in the world, was closed in the midst of an FBI investigation into fraud allegations. These are just two of many aftershocks that may be felt from this earthquake. It is reasons like these why this matter is so important. In just three months I *HAD* intended to hold my Winter Mini/Major auction, with mostly linenbacked posters. Even though I have *NEVER* sold a single fraudulent restored poster, and even though I have *NEVER* used the restorer in question, and even though I have *NEVER* had a single consignment from the sellers named thus far, I still must wonder whether the ripples from this scandal won't come back on me. My position is that we all need to find out exactly who was involved in this (my gut feeling is that no more than a dozen dealers, auction houses and restorers combined were involved, and possibly far fewer than that), so that the other 99.9% completely uninvolved rest of the hobby will not be tainted by it in any way. And certainly everyone with any kind of collection needs to care, because if this isn't completely exposed, then the resale value of all posters will surely be affected. If we can determine that this matter was perpetrated by a very few people, and that no one else was involved, then the damage to the hobby will be greatly contained just by those facts alone. Bruce On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dario Casadei m...@vintagemovieart.cawrote: *Up until late last night I had a few fellow friends and collectors email/asking me for a name. So I am glad it is now out in the open as I kindly refused to name that name. Trust me it was and still are a shocker for me. I know I know, innocent until proven guilty, but I still strongly suggest that anyone that publicly endorse their site in some shape or form ( link, accolade, testimonials) Might want to consider removing such until it is all cleared. I would hate to find out that someone road off in to the sunset with a suitcase of posters. End of the day, I hope this is just a silly nightmare and Jamie is cool and we can all get back to posters. So I hope. Best, dario. * Bruce Hershenson wrote: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was *NOT* them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to * http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ *http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known, even those who had a relatively minor involvement (like dealers or auction houses which unknowingly acted as middlemen in the sale of some of these fakes) will surely find that having the truth out there will be better than waiting for it to be dragged out over a period of months. I am so happy this matter is not being mishandled as the minty whites were (where no one did anything), which resulted in the criminals never being brought to justice, thousands of collectors being defrauded of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and a black cloud hanging over the hobby to this day. Let us all learn from that giant mistake and not put our heads in the sand and hope this will just go away, because if we do that, our entire hobby will suffer greatly. Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
[MOPO] Jaime Mendez
Does anyone know if Jaime Mendez is still linen backing and taking orders? Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Jaime Mendez
i looked earlier.. his website is still up and running. On Aug 29, 2009, at 4:09 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote: Does anyone know if Jaime Mendez is still linen backing and taking orders? Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/ members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A Very Sad Day
Thanks very much for providing hard evidence that at least two auction items were involved. I have three questions: Is it the well known auction house's position that they thought both items were genuine before, during, and after the auction? What was the condition grade (and written description of defects) of both on the auctions? Do you know first hand of any other auction items that were involved, and do you know first hand if the person who consigned the two fake items also consigned other items to that auction house, either in that same auction, or in any previous ones? Thanks. Bruce On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Stephen Fishler steph...@metropoliscomics.com wrote: The current situation involving fake movie posters and lobbies began to come to light several months ago, when I received a Frankenstein title card and a Dracula window card from a well known auction house. The window card looked good to me but the Frankenstein title card screamed out that something was wrong. The front of the card, which had a great deal of restoration just did not match the card's back. The notion that the front was a restored mechanical reproduction married with a genuine, vintage lobby card back came to mind. I sent the Frankenstein TC to Carol Tincup who concurred that the card was most probably a fake. To say that this situation was disturbing was an understatement. I never thought I'd see the day when fake horror paper could and would be passed off to unsuspecting collectors as the real McCoys. A real game changer. I immediately placed a phone call to the auction house that sold me the Frankenstein TC in question. They took my suspicions seriously and could not be more professional. That phone call began a chain of events that led to the first lawsuit against Kerry Haggard. By the way, the Dracula window card was also a fake. But boy, did it look good. I have seen analysis done on the fakes and have no doubt that reliable ways to weed out the fakes will be available to collectors very, very soon. I am reminded of a book entitled The Billionaire's Vinegar. The similarities between the scandal involving millions of dollars in fake vintage wine and the scandal involving fake vintage posters is pretty startling. Stephen Fishler PS - Does anyone have a real Frankenstein title card and Dracula window card that they can sell me? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
Just to stretch things a little. Is it possible that a collector could send a very valuable poster or lobby card to a restorer and end up being sent a fake in return while the restorer keeps the original. From what I can gather the fakes are so good that it is unlikely anyone would be able to tell the difference. Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over Dario, you bring up an interesting point I had not thought of. What if someone involved in this as a restorer is arrested? Will all the posters in that person's possession be seized as evidence? How long before those posters are released, and what if the person who sent the posters to the restorer does not have a printed signed receipt from the restorer, and the restorer claims the posters as their own property? For that matter, what if an auction house is closed down over this? What will happen to items on consignment at that auction house? These questions are not far-fetched. We all know of several restorers who vanished in the past several years, taking their customers' property with them, and few ever got their posters back or restitution of any kind. And just a few months ago, Mastro Auctions, the number one sports memorabilia auction in the world, was closed in the midst of an FBI investigation into fraud allegations. These are just two of many aftershocks that may be felt from this earthquake. It is reasons like these why this matter is so important. In just three months I HAD intended to hold my Winter Mini/Major auction, with mostly linenbacked posters. Even though I have NEVER sold a single fraudulent restored poster, and even though I have NEVER used the restorer in question, and even though I have NEVER had a single consignment from the sellers named thus far, I still must wonder whether the ripples from this scandal won't come back on me. My position is that we all need to find out exactly who was involved in this (my gut feeling is that no more than a dozen dealers, auction houses and restorers combined were involved, and possibly far fewer than that), so that the other 99.9% completely uninvolved rest of the hobby will not be tainted by it in any way. And certainly everyone with any kind of collection needs to care, because if this isn't completely exposed, then the resale value of all posters will surely be affected. If we can determine that this matter was perpetrated by a very few people, and that no one else was involved, then the damage to the hobby will be greatly contained just by those facts alone. Bruce On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dario Casadei m...@vintagemovieart.ca wrote: Up until late last night I had a few fellow friends and collectors email/asking me for a name. So I am glad it is now out in the open as I kindly refused to name that name. Trust me it was and still are a shocker for me. I know I know, innocent until proven guilty, but I still strongly suggest that anyone that publicly endorse their site in some shape or form ( link, accolade, testimonials) Might want to consider removing such until it is all cleared. I would hate to find out that someone road off in to the sunset with a suitcase of posters. End of the day, I hope this is just a silly nightmare and Jamie is cool and we can all get back to posters. So I hope. Best, dario. Bruce Hershenson wrote: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was NOT them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/ and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over
Re: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage
Side by side, yes, but when the auction took place it looked damn good! Doug - Original Message - From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage There is indeed a very big difference between the two. Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: jeff po To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage Since phil had given the description of the half sheet that heritage auctioned for 23,500.00, i though it interesting to show the paint re-creation up close, on that poster. i also am showing the way the art/photo appears from the TC, as the artwork was the same. the painted re-creation is not very good. all 4 actors' depictions are off and rather simplistic in appearance. This can be seen more readily when comparing side by side (or up and down). jeff TC: Half Sheet: Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Some of the speculation is over
*Hi Bruce, I have a hunch that is is a small gang criminals and not that wide spread, just a couple of guys and a restorer and possible a staff or two. Hi John Reid, *Just to stretch things a little. Is it possible that a collector could send a very valuable poster or lobby card to a restorer and end up being sent a fake in return while the restorer keeps the original. From what I can gather the fakes are so good that it is unlikely anyone would be able to tell the difference. * That is a scary though, but not impossible. These day there is so much more involved than just a talent hand. Find yourself a good restorer, establish a loyal trustworthy long term relationship. That is worth just as much or even more than a perfect color match. Best, dario. * Bruce Hershenson wrote: Dario, you bring up an interesting point I had not thought of. What if someone involved in this as a restorer is arrested? Will all the posters in that person's possession be seized as evidence? How long before those posters are released, and what if the person who sent the posters to the restorer does not have a printed signed receipt from the restorer, and the restorer claims the posters as their own property? For that matter, what if an auction house is closed down over this? What will happen to items on consignment at that auction house? These questions are not far-fetched. We all know of several restorers who vanished in the past several years, taking their customers' property with them, and few ever got their posters back or restitution of any kind. And just a few months ago, Mastro Auctions, the number one sports memorabilia auction in the world, was closed in the midst of an FBI investigation into fraud allegations. These are just two of many aftershocks that may be felt from this earthquake. It is reasons like these why this matter is so important. In just three months I *HAD* intended to hold my Winter Mini/Major auction, with mostly linenbacked posters. Even though I have *NEVER* sold a single fraudulent restored poster, and even though I have *NEVER* used the restorer in question, and even though I have *NEVER* had a single consignment from the sellers named thus far, I still must wonder whether the ripples from this scandal won't come back on me. My position is that we all need to find out exactly who was involved in this (my gut feeling is that no more than a dozen dealers, auction houses and restorers combined were involved, and possibly far fewer than that), so that the other 99.9% completely uninvolved rest of the hobby will not be tainted by it in any way. And certainly everyone with any kind of collection needs to care, because if this isn't completely exposed, then the resale value of all posters will surely be affected. If we can determine that this matter was perpetrated by a very few people, and that no one else was involved, then the damage to the hobby will be greatly contained just by those facts alone. Bruce On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dario Casadei m...@vintagemovieart.ca mailto:m...@vintagemovieart.ca wrote: *Up until late last night I had a few fellow friends and collectors email/asking me for a name. So I am glad it is now out in the open as I kindly refused to name that name. Trust me it was and still are a shocker for me. I know I know, innocent until proven guilty, but I still strongly suggest that anyone that publicly endorse their site in some shape or form ( link, accolade, testimonials) Might want to consider removing such until it is all cleared. I would hate to find out that someone road off in to the sunset with a suitcase of posters. End of the day, I hope this is just a silly nightmare and Jamie is cool and we can all get back to posters. So I hope. Best, dario. * Bruce Hershenson wrote: There has been much private speculation on the part of many collectors as to which restorer allegedly created the fakes which defrauded so many people, including most major Universal horror collectors. And those who have known who it was have continued to refuse to name that person, forcing some people to publically announce it was *NOT* them, to keep their good names clear. These days, lawsuits are not filed with paper, but they are also filed electronically, and they are available for public view. Go to *http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-miedce/case_no-2:2009cv13405/case_id-242141/* and see the lawsuit that was filed two days ago, which names some names (but it also includes a John Doe and a Jane Doe, which means that more names will be forthcoming). I wish those involved in this would simply tell exactly what happened, so that the air can be cleared, and all honest dealers, restorers, and auction houses will no longer have a cloud over their heads. Once the truth is known,
[MOPO] The Auction House revealed
I had not wanted to mention the Auction House either - since they do not have a representative on MoPo to answer Bruce's constant questions. But since Stephen has already mentioned how professional they were to deal with (and any search of recent auction house catalogs would show who offered both a Frankenstein TC and Dracula WC this year), I will say that they were Profiles in History. I will also say that I purchased a Wolf Man title card at the same auction, found the same problems Stephen did, returned it to Profiles and they also handled it in the same professional manner that they did with Stephen. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] favoite Move from a Play
Another excellent choice! One of my favorites as well. Richard Del Belso Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:25:52 -0700 From: chun...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] favoite Move from a Play To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU My favorite movie from a play, in fact it borders on being a filmed play with the the stage curtain effect at the beginning is the 1952 Anthony Asquith directed The Importance of Being Earnest. It also comes with one of my favorite lines: Lady Augusta Bracknell: Are your parents living? Jack: I have lost both my parents. Lady Augusta Bracknell: To lose one parent, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness. Also: Lady Augusta Bracknell (delivered as only Edith Evans could): A hndbaaag! Colin Hunter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage
I'm pretty fussy, but I think it's a very good job considering it's painted. It just pales in comparison to the best way to restore lost sections, using good quality scans from complete examples. But perhaps now, that isn't the best course of action. On 30 Aug 2009, at 00:19, Douglas Ball wrote: Side by side, yes, but when the auction took place it looked damn good! Doug - Original Message - From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage There is indeed a very big difference between the two. Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: jeff po To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage Since phil had given the description of the half sheet that heritage auctioned for 23,500.00, i though it interesting to show the paint re-creation up close, on that poster. i also am showing the way the art/photo appears from the TC, as the artwork was the same. the painted re-creation is not very good. all 4 actors' depictions are off and rather simplistic in appearance. This can be seen more readily when comparing side by side (or up and down). jeff TC: Half Sheet: Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] TRADING - posters for posters, movie mags, stills.
I like to keep my inventory moving, if you want to consider trading let me know. I have an Ebay store with about 3,000 items, old and new. Anything I have would be a possible trade item. Recently bought a collection of movie magazines, have built up some buyers, if you have a collection you would like to turn into posters, let me know. Also I am interested in quality 8x10 or lobby cards. Generally any good or offbeat material, even U.S. titles on foreign paper. Let me know and we will go from there. Thanks, Tony Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] THE HAMMER DROPPED AS SWIFTLY AS POSSIBLE
To everyone on MOPO, freeman here I have thought it best to stay out of the fray of the discussions regarding the fraudulent paper recently brought to the fore as I was mentioned in the original civil suit. But now I feel obliged to recognize publicly the swift actions, expense and rightful actions of Ron Magid. As questionable paper ( minty whites, hairy belts, fuzzy ALIENs you know them) have been passed along with nary a slap on the wrist even when reasonably knowledgeable by many the individuals responsible, it is Ron who was the first to aggressively pursue investigation and action of this latest breech to the business and I think its a swell thing for all of you to know. Indeed to assuage any fears presently, the defendant more than understood his alleged distribution and sale of fraudulent materials was going to result into a thunder clap of litigation in May. Ron, armed with information from Profiles and myself, immediately had an independent expert in restoration (Carol Tincup, well regarded for over a decade) to investigate the materials (all had to be de-mounted and the paper carefully inspected) at his own expense. When discovered all frauds, Ron immediately hired a lawyer and as swiftly as possible filed his lawsuit and awaited servicing of said law suit. During that period no discussions were allowed as dictated by his counsel and truly it was agonizing how long it took for these things to work their way through the courts before one could make public. But within the very small circle of collectors who deal/purchase high-end horror, a cautious pause immediately seemed to form without any specifics shared as many began to have their purchases coming from the defendant examined. Also knowing eyes monitored carefully listings on EBAY again by concerned Mopo'ers. So please understand everyone that legal actions were initiated, as soon as the fraudulent items discovered. Further the great majority of the fraudulent paper did not find widespread dissemination to the public, save for 4 instances already identified, and two private sales again identified. This kind of integrity and swift action is being demonstrated throughout this circle of collectors and dealers because the health and confidence of authentic materials for the future is dependant on doing so. And may I please add before gossip, innuendo and ridiculous scenarios are posted to inflame and strike fear for the benefit of those outside this very small circle of high-end horror dealers, that discretion, courtesy and common sense would be appreciated while the legal processes bring to justice the perpetrators involved. The two plaintiffs are only following to the letter their counsel because nothing short of swift justice is being pursued. Lets not blow it for them. I do see a positive course for the immediate future that should impact us all when selling/collecting high end paper. That is the conveyance of COA, provenance or some such back up with respect to restoration. Case in point I just sold a SON OF FRANKENSTEIN lobby card with a before restoration and after restoration and who performed the minimum work and listed on Ebay. It was purchased by an incredibly informed dealer on Mopo and I assume that kind of transparency was recognized as responsible business ( please, hold your applause:) In fact even further to the point, I have just brokered three high-end horror cards, and even though in jaw dropping near to mint and unrestored condition, I am having them inspected by Carol Tincup and authenticated with a letter to convey in case down the line the buyer ever wanted to sell. A hassle, sure, smart I should think so. This just might be something other sellers and certain internet auction houses will want to embrace when handling rare pieces as technology has really advanced to the point of paper reproduction combined with nefarious restoration being so good it has fooled even the most experienced dealers and collectors. Presently with this unfortunate violation of all things holy in this business it is certainly in my opinion a responsible course of action to restore confidence for the immediate and future health of the hobby. Freeman Fisher Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] one sheet poster bag for shipping in tube
I was wondering if anyone could lead me to a particular product. I'm looking for a clear plastic bag that you can put a rolled one sheet into inside a tube. Let's say the tube is 1-1/2 or 2 in diameter and 30 long, the plastic bag would need to be about 30-32 long and about 1 in diameter. Does anyone have a vendor they can suggest and a stock number? Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Jaime Mendez
John, Jaime's shop is alive and well! I went up to his place to visit him last month and pick up my Frankenstein meets the Wolfman WC. Best, Mark --- On Sat, 8/29/09, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com wrote: From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com Subject: [MOPO] Jaime Mendez To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 4:09 PM Does anyone know if Jaime Mendez is still linen backing and taking orders? Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
