[MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
i will not buy a poster off ebay with a mere tiny ebay picture of the poster---even if it is a cheap poster like the one i was considering. i just received an email from a big feedback seller that he will not supply additional pictures. this is the third time he has responded this way to me. a few years ago, i purchased from him and was disappointed because the description was weak, and the picture tiny. i dont want to start a war here by naming him. but, ONLY A FOOL BUYS WITHOUT A CLEAR PIC. i removed the poster from my watch list michael **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
Michael I cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly makes sense to pursue and then stop short by stating you will not name the seller. I recently named ricksmovies because they were posting 80's and 70's movie posters in the US Originals 1940's category. I not only did not start a war but I got an email from them telling me they corrected their listings and lo and behold, they no longer are doing this. Why not name the seller and explain the problem. In lieu of a war, you are doing the seller a favor. The seller may not know it, but many people might not be bidding on his posters for the same reason. Claude **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
claude-- i do not disagree with you. however, even when praised bruce for his awesome zoom feature on his site (whereby his descriprions are secondary), i got blasted here for being too friendly about him. but i'll answer the seller that?has a poster listed now that i emailed about is WELN? --- link:? http://cgi.ebay.com/COME-BACK-LITTLE-SHEBA-53-RARE-BURT-LANCASTER_W0QQitemZ310047468235QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310047468235_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 I cant bid on WELN's stuff anymore. --- here's something else to consider--- ebay seller:??kelliesposters DECEPTIVE TINY CROPPED IMAGES;GENERIC FALSE DESCRIPS-inflates bds,offrs sm refnd Seller: kelliesposters ( 7834) Sep-19-06 13:22 Reply by kelliesposters (Sep-19-06 13:50): Was better than described-unreasonable buyer-gave FULL REFUND immediately Follow-up by witnessfor (Sep-19-06 14:20): stated VERY GOOD COND. YET, UNDISCLOSED DEFECTS-hole in face, tears, rips, etc after kelliesposters screwed me, another poster came up, but she blocked me from bidding.? ironically, a friend bought a poster that interested me (hint, hint).and guess what?? 3 of the four corners of the insert had SUBSTANTIAL damage that was undisclosed, and the picture was cropped.? in both instances, pictures were requested prior to bidding and denied, and descriptions never stated the defects.? so my friend left another bad feedback.? i noticed after then, descrips for ahile were a little more detailed. michael -Original Message- From: Claude Litton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE Michael ? I?cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly makes sense to pursue and then stop short by stating you will not name the seller.? I recently named ricksmovies because they were posting 80's and 70's movie posters in the US Originals 1940's category.? I not only did not start a war but?I got an email from them telling me they corrected their listings and lo and behold, they no longer are doing this. ? Why not name the seller and explain the problem.? In lieu of a war, you are doing the seller a favor.? The seller may not know it, but many people might not be bidding on his posters for the same reason. ? Claude Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
*I have no problem with WELN or Kellie's Description. To me VG is your average used theater poster, Pinholes, tears, smudges, tape, and small missing paper. Sounds like 40-50 year old paper to me. Dario. * Michael B wrote: claude-- i do not disagree with you. however, even when praised bruce for his awesome zoom feature on his site (whereby his descriprions are secondary), i got blasted here for being too friendly about him. but i'll answer the seller that has a poster listed now that i emailed about is WELN --- link: http://cgi.ebay.com/COME-BACK-LITTLE-SHEBA-53-RARE-BURT-LANCASTER_W0QQitemZ310047468235QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310047468235_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 http://cgi.ebay.com/COME-BACK-LITTLE-SHEBA-53-RARE-BURT-LANCASTER_W0QQitemZ310047468235QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310047468235_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 I cant bid on WELN's stuff anymore. --- here's something else to consider--- ebay seller: kelliesposters Negative feedback rating DECEPTIVE TINY CROPPED IMAGES;GENERIC FALSE DESCRIPS-inflates bds,offrs sm refnd Seller: kelliesposters http://myworld.ebay.com/kelliesposters ( 7834 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=kelliesposters [Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999] ) Sep-19-06 13:22 * *Reply* by kelliesposters (Sep-19-06 13:50): Was better than described-unreasonable buyer-gave FULL REFUND immediately o *Follow-up* by witnessfor (Sep-19-06 14:20): stated VERY GOOD COND. YET, UNDISCLOSED DEFECTS-hole in face, tears, rips, etc after kelliesposters screwed me, another poster came up, but she blocked me from bidding. ironically, a friend bought a poster that interested me (hint, hint).and guess what? 3 of the four corners of the insert had SUBSTANTIAL damage that was undisclosed, and the picture was cropped. in both instances, pictures were requested prior to bidding and denied, and descriptions never stated the defects. so my friend left another bad feedback. i noticed after then, descrips for ahile were a little more detailed. michael -Original Message- From: Claude Litton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE Michael I cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly makes sense to pursue and then stop short by stating you will not name the seller. I recently named ricksmovies because they were posting 80's and 70's movie posters in the US Originals 1940's category. I not only did not start a war but I got an email from them telling me they corrected their listings and lo and behold, they no longer are doing this. Why not name the seller and explain the problem. In lieu of a war, you are doing the seller a favor. The seller may not know it, but many people might not be bidding on his posters for the same reason. Claude Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Get the Moviefone Toolbar http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=aolcmp000511. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
Dario I normally agree with you but I believe you are far too liberal here and I agree with Michael. Let's begin with G, VG, et al. These are meaningless except in the mind of the writer who is looking at a poster. The same holds true for pinholes, tears, smudges, tape and missing paper. It is essential to know where these defects are on the poster. I can live with pinholes in many parts of a poster but not in the face of a movie star. The same hold true for all the other defects. Dario-Don't you believe a buyer should be told where the defects are on the poster? I recently bought a poster on ebay from a seller who had a small picture and did not state defects. He called the poster very good. I had been seeking this poster for about 10 years and was very nervous about it because the seller was not a regular poster dealer and it was well over $1000. I took a shot and won at $1400. When it came, it had about 20 small holes in the faces of the 2 stars. I wanted it, so I asked for a reduction in price. I complained to paypal and got $300 which paid for the extra restoration needed. Had the poster not been so rare, I would have opted for my money back. My main point here is this: Had the picture clearly shown the defects, i would still have won the auction but the bidding would have been much lower. For posters not that rare (it was Rose of Washington Square if you are interested) I would not bid at all. I believe these sellers prefer to maintain generic descriptions to keep people bidding. If these posters were in really fine shape they would not have to be described with tears, holes, etc. However, in fairness to these 2 sellers, most of their material is low priced and reasonably priced. I know the DeMaio's a long time and they have always posted prices for their material just about right or below the market. Bill Luten is a long time seller who starts at low prices for posters but a lot of his material is overpriced even though it is a low price. My suggestion to anyone who wants to buy a poster: Email the seller and ask where the defects are. The problems arise (like in my situation) where the seller says there are no defects and there are some when the poster arrives. Claude **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
No, I think it would be better for Michael to e-mail the seller personally rather than broadcasting it all over this board. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Litton Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:10 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE Michael I cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly makes sense to pursue and then stop short by stating you will not name the seller. I recently named ricksmovies because they were posting 80's and 70's movie posters in the US Originals 1940's category. I not only did not start a war but I got an email from them telling me they corrected their listings and lo and behold, they no longer are doing this. Why not name the seller and explain the problem. In lieu of a war, you are doing the seller a favor. The seller may not know it, but many people might not be bidding on his posters for the same reason. Claude _ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507 cars. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
*Hi Claude, Better pictures are always a plus when selling and for us collectors huge when buying. Generic or not, VG has been around as far as I can remember. So no surprises when I buy a VG poster. Best, dario. * Claude Litton wrote: *Dario* ** *I normally agree with you but I believe you are far too liberal here and I agree with Michael. * *Let's begin with G, VG, et al. These are meaningless except in the mind of the writer who is looking at a poster. The same holds true for pinholes, tears, smudges, tape and missing paper. It is essential to know where these defects are on the poster. I can live with pinholes in many parts of a poster but not in the face of a movie star. The same hold true for all the other defects. Dario-Don't you believe a buyer should be told where the defects are on the poster?* ** *I recently bought a poster on ebay from a seller who had a small picture and did not state defects. He called the poster very good. I had been seeking this poster for about 10 years and was very nervous about it because the seller was not a regular poster dealer and it was well over $1000. I took a shot and won at $1400. When it came, it had about 20 small holes in the faces of the 2 stars. I wanted it, so I asked for a reduction in price. I complained to paypal and got $300 which paid for the extra restoration needed. Had the poster not been so rare, I would have opted for my money back. My main point here is this: Had the picture clearly shown the defects, i would still have won the auction but the bidding would have been much lower. For posters not that rare (it was Rose of Washington Square if you are interested) I would not bid at all.* ** *I believe these sellers prefer to maintain generic descriptions to keep people bidding. If these posters were in really fine shape they would not have to be described with tears, holes, etc. However, in fairness to these 2 sellers, most of their material is low priced and reasonably priced. I know the DeMaio's a long time and they have always posted prices for their material just about right or below the market. Bill Luten is a long time seller who starts at low prices for posters but a lot of his material is overpriced even though it is a low price.* ** *My suggestion to anyone who wants to buy a poster: Email the seller and ask where the defects are. The problems arise (like in my situation) where the seller says there are no defects and there are some when the poster arrives.* ** *Claude* Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
I think you're wise to avoid this seller but I can understand why he didn't respond to your e-mail. I get loads of e-mails from people who write asking for additional pictures or special discounts or just stupid questions about the film itself or where they can buy a DVD of the film for which I'm selling a lobby card. These are usually from people who have nothing better to do with their time and even though I try to answer all of them, 99 3/4% of the time these same people NEVER bid on anything. Just loads of questions and requests for scans, which I presume they want to put into their dbase of photos. I think seller's make a big mistake by NOT offerring their buyers a 100% guarantee with a no fault return policy. I do this willingly because even I make mistakes and I know that if a customer feels screwed as you apparently did, they will not return. But I don't think in general it's a good idea to bad mouth a dealer on this board, particularly when the dealer put you on his do-not-bid list and you circumvented the process by having a friend bid on his auctions. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE claude-- i do not disagree with you. however, even when praised bruce for his awesome zoom feature on his site (whereby his descriprions are secondary), i got blasted here for being too friendly about him. but i'll answer the seller that has a poster listed now that i emailed about is WELN --- link: http://cgi.ebay.com/COME-BACK-LITTLE-SHEBA-53-RARE-BURT-LANCASTER_W0QQit emZ310047468235QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310047468235 http://cgi.ebay.com/COME-BACK-LITTLE-SHEBA-53-RARE-BURT-LANCASTER_W0QQi temZ310047468235QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310047468235_trksid=p3286.m14.l 1318 _trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 I cant bid on WELN's stuff anymore. --- here's something else to consider--- ebay seller: kelliesposters Negative feedback rating http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif DECEPTIVE TINY CROPPED IMAGES;GENERIC FALSE DESCRIPS-inflates bds,offrs sm refnd Seller: http://myworld.ebay.com/kelliesposters kelliesposters ( http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=kelliespo sters 7834 http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconGreenStar_25x25.gif ) Sep-19-06 13:22 * Reply by kelliesposters (Sep-19-06 13:50): Was better than described-unreasonable buyer-gave FULL REFUND immediately * Follow-up by witnessfor (Sep-19-06 14:20): stated VERY GOOD COND. YET, UNDISCLOSED DEFECTS-hole in face, tears, rips, etc after kelliesposters screwed me, another poster came up, but she blocked me from bidding. ironically, a friend bought a poster that interested me (hint, hint).and guess what? 3 of the four corners of the insert had SUBSTANTIAL damage that was undisclosed, and the picture was cropped. in both instances, pictures were requested prior to bidding and denied, and descriptions never stated the defects. so my friend left another bad feedback. i noticed after then, descrips for ahile were a little more detailed. michael -Original Message- From: Claude Litton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE Michael I cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly makes sense to pursue and then stop short by stating you will not name the seller. I recently named ricksmovies because they were posting 80's and 70's movie posters in the US Originals 1940's category. I not only did not start a war but I got an email from them telling me they corrected their listings and lo and behold, they no longer are doing this. Why not name the seller and explain the problem. In lieu of a war, you are doing the seller a favor. The seller may not know it, but many people might not be bidding on his posters for the same reason. Claude _ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507 cars. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ Get the Moviefone Toolbar http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=aolcmp00051 1 . Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
Message-Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Franc No, I think it would be better for Michael to e-mail the seller personally rather than broadcasting it all over this board. FRANC I disagree with Franc. Michael said he *did* contact the seller who refuses to send any additional images. I have no problem with mentioning an eBay seller's user ID on MoPo. In fact, I appreciate hearing about such situations myself. We're a relatively small group here (less than 400) and our individual experiences with sellers can provide valuable information useful to all. A seller who is less-than-generous with images or condition information can not expect an endorsement on MoPo. I'm sure WELN's eBay world won't come to an end because of a little bad press on MoPo. But such information certainly helps me when making a purchase decision on eBay. I'm also bothered by Michael's later e-mail where he states his reason for not initially identifying the image-challenged eBay'er was because he was previously blasted on MoPo for being too friendly about poster-guru Bruce H. I've heard this before about posting on MoPo --there is a fear that stating an opinion will generate an unpleasant response. Wow. That's a problem!!! Everyone should feel totally free to express their point of view without fear of taking an electronic beating by other list members. Do others feel as Michael does? Perhaps my ultra thick skin from running MoPo all these years makes me totally impervious to such feedback. Scott MoPo List Owner -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Litton Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:10 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE Michael I cannot understand why you would make an interesting post which clearly makes sense to pursue and then stop short by stating you will not name the seller. I recently named ricksmovies because they were posting 80's and 70's movie posters in the US Originals 1940's category. I not only did not start a war but I got an email from them telling me they corrected their listings and lo and behold, they no longer are doing this. Why not name the seller and explain the problem. In lieu of a war, you are doing the seller a favor. The seller may not know it, but many people might not be bidding on his posters for the same reason. Claude Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
michael.. i agree with you, 100%. are you talking about the A TRIP TO THE MOON poster by any chance? i did write the seller, mrs miniver for better, larger pics without a watermark that covers the entire poster, diagonally... (the pics are almost like thumbnails) and was basically told off, in a rude way, that unless i was serious about bidding, to stop asking questions,as i had inquired several months ago, as well. i also had asked about the 75 dollar shipping rate as it was only going to be sent via Standard Flat Rate service. for 75 bucks, it should received overnight in a gold lined box. for a $250K asking price, there should be pics that show every inch of this poster, in clear, digital detail. jeff On Jun 27, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Michael B wrote: i will not buy a poster off ebay with a mere tiny ebay picture of the poster---even if it is a cheap poster like the one i was considering. i just received an email from a big feedback seller that he will not supply additional pictures. this is the third time he has responded this way to me. a few years ago, i purchased from him and was disappointed because the description was weak, and the picture tiny. i dont want to start a war here by naming him. but, ONLY A FOOL BUYS WITHOUT A CLEAR PIC. i removed the poster from my watch list michael Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] bad pic, NO PURCHASE
I am also on Michael's side. Personally, I've had fantastic luck with WELN, and hope that that luck continues, but Michael is not wrong to want better pictures, nor is he wrong for naming names. Sometimes when a seller sells many items at once, they don't spend as much time and detail photographing and describing items as they should, at some level I imagine most sells professional or casual (myself included) have on occassion discounted some detail, purposeful or not. However, when pressed by a potential buyer for extra photos or description, how could someone not respond positively? I suppose because you don't really care or want to sell the poster? Hard to imagine. Ron P.S. Glad to see Claude posting semi-regularly, must have some free time, and he rarely does, so it's nice. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
