Re: [MOSAIC] K-2 1st 21 days

2007-08-05 Thread Kerry McDonald
Can you give us the title of this book?

thanks,

Kerry
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 Scholastic puts out a book on the first 20 days for primary.
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Re: [MOSAIC] K-2 1st 21 days

2007-08-05 Thread Kukonis




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Re: [MOSAIC] starting the year with non-fiction

2007-08-05 Thread Kukonis
As a first grade teacher I find many of my kids, and especially the  
strugglers, prefer non-fiction. They have more schema for it because they have  
observed and wondered. The pictures and photos are engaging and comprehension 
is  a 
bit easier because there is a lot of literal interpretation. Things make  
sense. 
 
Fiction can be daunting especially when there are nonsense words,  humor, 
deep meaning, conversation, no illustrations and the list can go on. 
 
I guess what I am saying concurs with others: kids need both fiction and  
nonfiction. They need to understand the similarities as well as the 
differences.  
The conventions need to be explicit for both. They need to talk and write 
about  both. First graders can and do both from the get go.  



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Re: [MOSAIC] K-2 1st 21 days

2007-08-05 Thread Kukonis
oops..
Maxine,
Do you know the name of the book by Scholastic?



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Re: [MOSAIC] retention versus early entry

2007-08-05 Thread ljackson
Our schools are testing using the Geselle instrument (spelling unclear) and
some are sorting the 'immature' into classrooms full of immature...which
seems like it must be making somebody's life easier, but I don't think an
immature child learns maturity in a sea of immaturity.  Personally, how
about we let parents decide and figure out how to teach the kids we get, not
the ones we wish he had??  I don't mean to sound harsh, but I have readiness
issues.  Every child is ready to learn, they just may not be so keen on what
we want to teach them.

Lori


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 Personal experience with my two children shows the exceptions. My son's
 birthday is July 29. The cut off date in Florida was July 31. He has always
 been described as exceptionally mature for his age.

   On the other hand, my daughter's birthday is March 26. The cut off date in
 NC was October 16 when she was little. She has always been more immature than
 her peers. I knew this and have always regretted not keeping her home another
 year. (Fifteen years later, she continues to be immature for her age.)

   By the way, NC will change the cutoff date to Aug. 31 in 2009.

   I think we need another measure for deciding if children are ready for
 school. I don't know what would have happened to my son if he'd had to wait
 another year. (He had already figured out multiplication 6 months before going
 to K!)


 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] retention versus early entry

2007-08-05 Thread Creecher12
 
In a message dated 8/5/2007 9:01:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Every  child is ready to learn, they just may not be so keen on what
we want to  teach them.


 
And doesn't someone have to be the youngest?
Here is a good article by Lilian Katz. One of my early childhood  educational 
research heroes. 
_http://ceep.crc.uiuc.edu/eecearchive/digests/2000/katzred00.html_ 
(http://ceep.crc.uiuc.edu/eecearchive/digests/2000/katzred00.html) 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] retention versus early entry

2007-08-05 Thread Julianne Brosnan
While it's true someone has to be the youngest, I'm in favor of letting 
parents decide if their young child has the readiness skills to perform 
at a level that will set the tone for a positive educational experience. 

In my own case, I have twin boys with an August birthday.  Both had 
speech delays and one had other developmental delays.  Our district has 
not only full day kindergarten but all are k/1 classes.  The academic 
standards are rigorous and many of the students just go with the flow 
but are not fully engaged because they really don't understand, they 
aren't making connections. (I was the k/1 aide one year) Both of my boys 
would have been able to perform well academically, but it would have 
been a stressful year for them otherwise.  I don't necessarily agree 
with the curriculum standards of today's kindergarten and am more in 
favor of allowing kids to PLAY at the age of 5.  My husband and I 
decided to keep our boys home an extra year and we're impressed with the 
difference that year made.  I am confident they can contribute in much 
more positive ways to a k/1 class this year while benefiting from 
exposure to the first grade curriculum.  If they maintain a high 
academic edge over their grade peers we would consider putting them 
ahead where they should've been in the first place, but my guess is that 
by second or third grade most of their grade level peers will have 
caught up.  Doesn't this happen alot of the time, anyway?  For us it was 
always an issue of social/emotional readiness not future academic 
performance and I believe it does make a difference.

Now, if my district had the option of a straight kindergarten or half 
day kindergarten, we might not have kept our boys home an extra year. 

I have to say, however, that I would not suggest to another parent what 
decision they ought to make for their own child unless I was asked for 
input.  For years we were told, give the young ones an extra year and 
now it seems teachers don't like what that process has led to.  I'm not 
the expert and only want to have to make that decision for my own 
children.  OK, that's a cop out! 

Julianne Brosnan/2/ME

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 In a message dated 8/5/2007 9:01:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
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 Every  child is ready to learn, they just may not be so keen on what
 we want to  teach them.


  
 And doesn't someone have to be the youngest?
 Here is a good article by Lilian Katz. One of my early childhood  educational 
 research heroes. 
 _http://ceep.crc.uiuc.edu/eecearchive/digests/2000/katzred00.html_ 
 (http://ceep.crc.uiuc.edu/eecearchive/digests/2000/katzred00.html) 
  
 Nancy Creech

   


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[MOSAIC] announcement from Ginger

2007-08-05 Thread ginger/rob
I will be taking a much needed sabbatical for a year from my role as 
overseer/moderator of the Mosaic listserv.  I am needing to cultivate and 
nurture the parts of me that I have been neglecting.  (I will continue to do 
the uploading of any files to our TEACHING TOOLS page that you would like to 
share since that is done from my computer.)

I have selected Jennifer Palmer to take over for me as moderator.  Many of 
you know of Jennifer's passion for the comprehension work we meet here to 
discuss.  I have complete confidence in her desire and ability to keep the 
vision of this listserv alive.

I am believing you all will resolve to keep your talk grounded in the 
thinking work!
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[MOSAIC] MOT/STW/RWM Resource Site

2007-08-05 Thread Ellen K Closs
http://www.busyteacherscafe.com/units/comprehension_strategies.htm has a 
good amount of material/downloads for teaching the strategies:) 

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Re: [MOSAIC] announcement from Ginger

2007-08-05 Thread Patricia Kimathi
I am so sorry to hear this.  But of course you need to do what you need  
to do.  Will you still participate?
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On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:13 AM, ginger/rob wrote:

 I will be taking a much needed sabbatical for a year from my role as
 overseer/moderator of the Mosaic listserv.  I am needing to cultivate  
 and
 nurture the parts of me that I have been neglecting.  (I will continue  
 to do
 the uploading of any files to our TEACHING TOOLS page that you would  
 like to
 share since that is done from my computer.)

 I have selected Jennifer Palmer to take over for me as moderator.   
 Many of
 you know of Jennifer's passion for the comprehension work we meet here  
 to
 discuss.  I have complete confidence in her desire and ability to keep  
 the
 vision of this listserv alive.

 I am believing you all will resolve to keep your talk grounded in the
 thinking work!
 Ginger Weincek
 owner
 Mosaic listserv
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Re: [MOSAIC] K-2 1st 21 days

2007-08-05 Thread Beverlee Paul
I've searched that site top to bottom and I just can't find that book.  I'd 
love to know, too, if anyone out there knows.


oops..
Maxine,
Do you know the name of the book by Scholastic?

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Re: [MOSAIC] starting the year with non-fiction

2007-08-05 Thread Beverlee Paul
I agree.  Plus, there are so many lovely new nonfiction big books for shared 
reading, so we can use that process to teach strategies to read nonfiction, 
just as we do fiction.  If you haven't read Brenda Parkes book on shared 
reading (Read It Again:  Revisiting Shared Reading), treat yourself and your 
kids and find a copy.


It's nice to be able to teach MOT strategies and deep structure in several 
genres and using several techniques (read-aloud, shared reading, independent 
reading).  Plus, you have those big books to do the same range of things I 
just mentioned, but in writing.


Bev

As a first grade teacher I find many of my kids, and especially the
strugglers, prefer non-fiction. They have more schema for it because they 
have
observed and wondered. The pictures and photos are engaging and 
comprehension is  a

bit easier because there is a lot of literal interpretation. Things make
sense.

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[MOSAIC] from Jennifer

2007-08-05 Thread CNJPALMER
Hello everyone! 
It is my great privilege to moderate the mosaic list while Ginger is on  
sabbatical. She leaves very big shoes to fill but I know you all will help me 
to  
keep the conversation focused as well as enlightening to all who  participate! 
 
As a way of introducing myself to everyone, I thought I would let you know  a 
little of my background. I have been teaching for 15 years now. I was a late  
starter...worked in business out of college and then took a pay cut to become 
a  first grade teacher...a move I have never regretted. During my time in  
first grade, I became National Board Certified...something that I am very  
proud 
of. Since then, I moved into the position of reading specialist and  also 
teach Diagnosis of Reading Difficulties part time. 
 
My interests, naturally are comprehension strategies but also staff  
development and teacher training.   I already moderate two listservs  here in 
Maryland: one for Maryland National Board candidates and one small  one for the 
reading specialists in my district. It was a very great honor to be  asked to 
moderate this list which has been a crucial part of my own staff  development 
for 
the past several years. I have been a frequent participant in  discussions and 
have signed all my email as Jennifer, Maryland.
 
We have had some amazing conversations over the summer and as the school  
year starts, I hope that this can continue to be the place to share thoughts 
and  
ideas about reading comprehension and reflect on our teaching in a  risk-free 
forum. 
 
I know you all will join me in wishing Ginger a restful sabbatical and look  
forward to her eventual return at the end of one year.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Toolkit

2007-08-05 Thread Lisa Szyska
The Heinemann site says Spring 2008.  
http://www.comprehensiontoolkit.com/

lisa :o)

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[MOSAIC] retention versus early entry

2007-08-05 Thread Harbour, Deborah

I have been a k/1 teacher for many years.  My daughter has an Aug. 8th 
birthday.  Aug.31st  is the cutoff for Kindergarten in Florida.  She was always 
extremely small for her size.  I went ahead and let her begin K with the 
thought that if she ended up not ready to move on, I was fine with that.  She 
had 3 and 4 year old preschool so I knew that she had some readiness - just not 
the maturity to go with it.  As it turned out, she blossomed so much and far 
surpassed many others in the class academically.  Although size and maturity 
was against her, it was not in her best interest to be retained either.  She 
would have been extremely bored and it would have wasted a year.  My only 
regret is that my daughter is still small for her age but her maturity has 
slowly caught up with the others throughout the years.It is hard sometimes 
to find that line of retention as a teacher and a parent but I truly feel that 
each child needs to be looked at individually to find the best way to make 
him/her successful.  It's never black and white.  
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Re: [MOSAIC] from Jennifer

2007-08-05 Thread thomas
Welcome Jennifer.  You'll do a wonderful job I know having valued all your
posts in the past!

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Re: [MOSAIC] retention versus early entry

2007-08-05 Thread Felicia Barra
Like Julianne, I have a son who has an August birthday.  And like her twins, 
my son was academically ready for kindergarten but I felt he lacked the 
social skills necessary to be successful.  He is going to be entering his 
senior year in high school in September and in some ways, I still feel he's 
immature.  His first two girlfiriends were a school year behind him as well 
as most of his friends.

I think you have to know your own child and what might/might night work. 
I've had students who were the youngest and you could not tell and for 
others, the difference was obvious.

Felicia 



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Re: [MOSAIC] starting the year with non-fiction

2007-08-05 Thread Olga Reynolds
There was a recent study onwhat primary grade kids
prefer to read and guess whatthey prefer
NONFICTION.  Students were given the freedom to select
 books for reading.  Students chose nonfiction books! 
The authors suggest that perhaps the pedagogy of using
story books is done to focus on story elements.  The
study is on ERIC.
olga
 
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 As a first grade teacher I find many of my kids, and
 especially the  
 strugglers, prefer non-fiction. They have more
 schema for it because they have  
 observed and wondered. The pictures and photos are
 engaging and comprehension is  a 
 bit easier because there is a lot of literal
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