Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
I agree with this. Also just getting them to understand that working at WalMart or McDonald's is NOT a good career. Most of my students LOVE Walmart, it's the one place all of my students have in common. So one day I took them through the money aspect of it. Showing them how much they would make working at Walmart or McDonalds and having to pay rent, buy food, utilities, etc. That lesson got it through more than anything else has. I am lucky in that, although I work in a very poverty stricken city, I work in one of two intra-district magnet schools. So although half of my students are on free/reduced lunch and come from a second language. The other half of my students come from pretty well off parents (one is a lawyer). It is a good mixture of kids. So much so that I looped with them this year from 2 to 3. Also even though many of my students come from poverty they have chosen to be in this program that I teach in, called Dual Language, so on the whole, education is a very big priority for MOST of my students. Tammy/CT/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/25/2006 2:12:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely they don't want out. Not at their age. If you suggest to a child that education is a way out, you will usually sound as if you are suggesting that the child reject his/her parents. Children need to feel attached to their parents even when their parents are not healthy for them. I do not know what the solution is, but I think that telling kids there's a better world for them away from their family will turn the child away from education. Jan I have never told a child this, I am merely pointing out the mentality that I see in my classroom. I have no idea what the answer is either, but I do know that breaking the cycle of poverty certainly can help. I am a product of divorced parents. Was a recepient of food stamps and free lunches at school when my parents divorced. I was a pregnant teenager, but I also understood that education was valuable. How do you instill this in children? Or is it magical? Rosie ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
I think so too. It really hit home when I began working with a group of third graders (mostly boys) this year on thinking strategies and I posed the question So why do you think it is important to learn about these strategies?, hoping to hear that they would get a deeper understanding of what they were reading and enjoy reading more as a result, but they were all in agreement that it was because they were going to be tested on them. They have no concept of reading for enjoyment. The school I work in is relatively affluent, too so it is not so much a socioeconomic issue. I guess I think that the testing is a big issue and it comes at a time when society is changing too. Agreed...but the pressures of NCLB is not helping teachers to overcome dispassionate children and I have to say, I think it leads to dispassionate teaching. Lori On 12/24/06 2:36 PM, Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not blaming NCLB for dispassionate children, they come to us like that. I DO blame NCLB for the current culture in school administration, and the pressures we teachers feel. Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute Literate Lives: A Human Right July 12-15, 2007 Louisville, Kentucky http://www.ncte.org/profdev/conv/wlu ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http:// literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
You are right about college not being right for everyone. We need skilled tradespeople who are knowledgeable on the latest techniques and applications. But it all requires READING / THINKING skills. Life experiences add to your schemata. So do reading experiences. If I watch a TV show or read a story where someone puts out a grease fire using baking soda, and I have a real-life grease fire, I can use my knowledge to put out the fire safely. I did not learn it from LIFE, but I added it to my background. Reading (and movies, TV, art, music, etc.) gives you more background knowledge to deal with the real world. Even a sport requires reading strategies...make connection to previous games, ask questions such as Is he going to pitch a fastball or curve ball?, make predictions like Is the ball going to go to the left or to the right?, visualizing to aid in performance, fix-it strategies so if you are missing the ball you can fix it, etc. IT'S ALL READING, FOLKS... ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
If you are interested in preparing for jobs of the future, please read the report I mentioned yesterday. That is the focus of the report. Marsha ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
In a message dated 12/25/2006 12:53:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rosie, We are both in NC, and I see this as well. Parents that believe that baseball, football, soccer, and dance are more important than reading! It isn't really sports and dance that I see interfering. Most of my students cannot afford these types of activities. It appears to be just a general apathy, I believe partly because most of the single parents that I deal with didn't have good school experiences, many didn't finish high school, and most are just tried of providing the basics. My students live in poverty, and for what ever reason, don't realize that education is the way out, or don't want out. Many of them live in neighborhoods filled with gangs, and probably have siblings who are gang members. Rosie ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
Absolutely they don't want out. Not at their age. If you suggest to a child that education is a way out, you will usually sound as if you are suggesting that the child reject his/her parents. Children need to feel attached to their parents even when their parents are not healthy for them. I do not know what the solution is, but I think that telling kids there's a better world for them away from their family will turn the child away from education. Jan On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/25/2006 12:53:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rosie, We are both in NC, and I see this as well. Parents that believe that baseball, football, soccer, and dance are more important than reading! It isn't really sports and dance that I see interfering. Most of my students cannot afford these types of activities. It appears to be just a general apathy, I believe partly because most of the single parents that I deal with didn't have good school experiences, many didn't finish high school, and most are just tried of providing the basics. My students live in poverty, and for what ever reason, don't realize that education is the way out, or don't want out. Many of them live in neighborhoods filled with gangs, and probably have siblings who are gang members. Rosie ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
Agreed...but the pressures of NCLB is not helping teachers to overcome dispassionate children and I have to say, I think it leads to dispassionate teaching. Lori On 12/24/06 2:36 PM, Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not blaming NCLB for dispassionate children, they come to us like that. I DO blame NCLB for the current culture in school administration, and the pressures we teachers feel. Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute Literate Lives: A Human Right July 12-15, 2007 Louisville, Kentucky http://www.ncte.org/profdev/conv/wlu ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
For sure! ljackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed...but the pressures of NCLB is not helping teachers to overcome dispassionate children and I have to say, I think it leads to dispassionate teaching. Lori On 12/24/06 2:36 PM, Joy wrote: I'm not blaming NCLB for dispassionate children, they come to us like that. I DO blame NCLB for the current culture in school administration, and the pressures we teachers feel. Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute Literate Lives: A Human Right July 12-15, 2007 Louisville, Kentucky http://www.ncte.org/profdev/conv/wlu ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
In America we educate everyone, this is not true in other countries. We need to stop comparing ourselves. Additionally, we need to stop believing that if every child doesn't go to college that we have failed. Not everyone wants to go or should go to college. Our economy cannot support everyone being college educated. I am not sure what the answer is to getting students at grade level. I am not really a fan of young children attending formal schooling, but so many of my students come unprepared even in kindergarten. No one has read to them, or helped them to learn what we might consider the basics-things that our mothers probably taught us. Education is really not seen as important by most of my students, and frankly by many of their parents. Some days I feel like I am just showing up for myself and no one else. Rosie ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
Education is really not seen as important by most of my students, and frankly by many of their parents. Some days I feel like I am just showing up for myself and no one else. Rosie At least it's comforting to know I'm not alone in my thoughts and feelings, and it's good to hear everyone's comments. Some people may think it's off topic, but passion for one's life is a part of one's schemata. If there is no passion for learning, for being better than you can be, for setting standards, then what else is there? I asked the 7th grade reading teacher if my 8th graders were as lacking in thinking last year and she said she had the same problems I'm having. I yelled, Thank God! I thought I broke them! I had actually thought it was my fault for making my class too hard or too demanding or whatever! Like a huge kidney stone, this too shall pass, Bill ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori
Rosie, We are both in NC, and I see this as well. Parents that believe that baseball, football, soccer, and dance are more important than reading! I suggested once that a student do their reading inbetween their practice times and met a cold stare of a dad who was trying to make excuses for his child's lack of daily reading. You are right about college not being right for everyone. We need skilled tradespeople who are knowledgeable on the latest techniques and applications. Joy/NC/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
