Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition

2008-07-25 Thread joyw
Ginger,
What grade is this for?
 
 


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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition

2008-07-27 Thread PAltm81324

In a message dated 7/27/08 3:09:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I am piping in to second Ginger's e-mail about explicit metacognition with 
> secondary students.  I did very much what she described with middle 
> schoolers..it is very cool because they're at the point where they are 
> truly 
> beginning to get the self-management of their own reading.  Gina>>
> 

I would be very interested in knowing more of the specifics of what you did 
with seconday students.   
Pat


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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition

2008-07-27 Thread gina nunley
I am piping in to second Ginger's e-mail about explicit metacognition with 
secondary students.  I did very much what she described with middle 
schoolers..it is very cool because they're at the point where they are 
truly beginning to get the self-management of their own reading.  Gina
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Re: [MOSAIC] Metacognition

2008-08-15 Thread Angie Kelley
Kendra,

If you have access to the Comprehension Toolkit the very first lesson is
great! It uses the book How Many Days to America by Eve Bunting. I just
taught that lesson this week to my 6th graders.

 

Angie Kelley

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Re: [MOSAIC] Metacognition

2008-08-16 Thread Susan Schultz
I used ideas from strategies that work and Tanny McGregor's book  
Comprehension connections they are both fantastic resources to use  
with my teachers. Also Reading Power by Adrienne Gear is a wonderful  
source for PD. They can all be purchased through amazon.
On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Kendra Carroll wrote:

>
> Good evening all.  I have to present at a district level staff  
> development workshop for second grade teachers next week.  I need to  
> spend 10-15 minutes on how to use metacognition activities during  
> the first weeks of school before moving into schema lessons.  Most  
> of these teachers will want activities to take back to their  
> classrooms.  Any suggestions?  Thanks so much!
>
>
> Kendra
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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use

2006-10-21 Thread Barbara Punchak
Gina,
This is not an answer to your question, but I've learned that strategies are
what you use 'on purpose' and consciously--meaning you are aware of
'visualizing, making connections, etc.  Strategies become "skills" when they
are done automatically---without thinking.  I don't know if this helps any,
but it was an 'aha' to me.
Barbara/6th/FL 

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My sixth graders and I are having interesting discussions about the concepts
of metacognition and reading strategies.  First, I just need to recount the
types of conversations we're having.

And this is where the kids get stuck.  How do you do this on purpose, and
how do you decide when to do it?  First, they complain that all this on
purpose stuff is getting in the way of their reading enjoyment.  I promise
them that  this intensive and explicit use is short term, just to ensure
that we can do it.

But I have to admit I am not so skilled at teaching them when to consciously
be strategic.  What cue would you use to say...h think I'll visualize
here and see if it helps.  I remember hearing Regie Routman say that
honestly the number one strategy that gets results is simply rereading.  
That's easy to tell kids to do.  But do any of you have lessons ot ideas on
how to give kids instructions on consciously choosing a strategy?


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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use

2006-10-21 Thread William Roberts
Sometimes it's easier to point out when they are NOT thinking about the
strategies.  For example, we read one selection at the beginning of the year
and I have them answer the questions at the end of the story, then ask them
to close their books and retell what they have read.  Most can't.  They
aren't actively involved in the process.

While reading, ask if anyone has visualized a scene or made a prediction or
asked a question in their headsmetacognition is making them aware of the
strategies since most of them do these naturally.
Bill


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From: "gina nunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use


> My sixth graders and I are having interesting discussions about the
concepts
> of metacognition and reading strategies.  First, I just need to recount
the
> types of conversations we're having.
>
> Metacognition of course is being aware of the "voices in your head" while
> you read.  Sometimes your head is visualizing, or wondering, or
predicting,
> etc.  It just seems to be doing it on its own.  (well in response to text)
> Now strategic reading is a conscious choice.  Noticing what the mind seems
> to want to do on its own, we now try to use those kinds of thinking on
> purpose, to increase understanding.
>
> And this is where the kids get stuck.  How do you do this on purpose, and
> how do you decide when to do it?  First, they complain that all this on
> purpose stuff is getting in the way of their reading enjoyment.  I promise
> them that  this intensive and explicit use is short term, just to ensure
> that we can do it.
>
> But I have to admit I am not so skilled at teaching them when to
consciously
> be strategic.  What cue would you use to say...h think I'll visualize
> here and see if it helps.  I remember hearing Regie Routman say that
> honestly the number one strategy that gets results is simply rereading.
> That's easy to tell kids to do.  But do any of you have lessons ot ideas
on
> how to give kids instructions on consciously choosing a strategy?
>
> I had a student tell me that her head seems to just want to visualize.
She
> doesn't notice a lot of connections and questions etc.  Another student
just
> wonders throughout the text.  Matter of fact I am that kind of reader.
>
> So , and I know this isn't a new dilemma for MOT teachers, but once again
I
> am asking myself what I want to say to kids about strategic reading.
>
> I would love to hear from others how you distinguish metacognition from
> conscious application of strategies, and when do you call it a day.  And
do
> you think I have drawn the wrong distinctions between metacogntion and
> strategic reading?  Gina
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use

2006-10-21 Thread swalkerd
I started this when I taught first grade but now use it in third grade. I have 
a place where I have all kinds of sticky note pads. After taking a week to 
model and gradual release, the kids are encouraged to take sticky notes and jot 
down a thought, connection, etc and place it into the text there are reading. 
At the last 5 minutes of their 30 minutes independent reading time, they get to 
share with a partner. I have seen kids get sticky notes to remind themselves of 
something they wanted to show me later. They get it.  
 
 
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Sometimes it's easier to point out when they are NOT thinking about the
strategies.  For example, we read one selection at the beginning of the year
and I have them answer the questions at the end of the story, then ask them
to close their books and retell what they have read.  Most can't.  They
aren't actively involved in the process.

While reading, ask if anyone has visualized a scene or made a prediction or
asked a question in their headsmetacognition is making them aware of the
strategies since most of them do these naturally.
Bill


- Original Message - 
From: "gina nunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use


> My sixth graders and I are having interesting discussions about the
concepts
> of metacognition and reading strategies.  First, I just need to recount
the
> types of conversations we're having.
>
> Metacognition of course is being aware of the "voices in your head" while
> you read.  Sometimes your head is visualizing, or wondering, or
predicting,
> etc.  It just seems to be doing it on its own.  (well in response to text)
> Now strategic reading is a conscious choice.  Noticing what the mind seems
> to want to do on its own, we now try to use those kinds of thinking on
> purpose, to increase understanding.
>
> And this is where the kids get stuck.  How do you do this on purpose, and
> how do you decide when to do it?  First, they complain that all this on
> purpose stuff is getting in the way of their reading enjoyment.  I promise
> them that  this intensive and explicit use is short term, just to ensure
> that we can do it.
>
> But I have to admit I am not so skilled at teaching them when to
consciously
> be strategic.  What cue would you use to say...h think I'll visualize
> here and see if it helps.  I remember hearing Regie Routman say that
> honestly the number one strategy that gets results is simply rereading.
> That's easy to tell kids to do.  But do any of you have lessons ot ideas
on
> how to give kids instructions on consciously choosing a strategy?
>
> I had a student tell me that her head seems to just want to visualize.
She
> doesn't notice a lot of connections and questions etc.  Another student
just
> wonders throughout the text.  Matter of fact I am that kind of reader.
>
> So , and I know this isn't a new dilemma for MOT teachers, but once again
I
> am asking myself what I want to say to kids about strategic reading.
>
> I would love to hear from others how you distinguish metacognition from
> conscious application of strategies, and when do you call it a day.  And
do
> you think I have drawn the wrong distinctions between metacogntion and
> strategic reading?  Gina
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use

2006-10-21 Thread Suzanne
I also heard somewhere that a "strategy" is something that you choose to use
when you need help with something.  This can be true in both reading and
writing.  I loved hearing the conversations that 6th graders have about
their reading.  I sometimes have trouble getting my 4th graders to talk
about their reading.  
Suzanne

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:14 PM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use

Sometimes it's easier to point out when they are NOT thinking about the
strategies.  For example, we read one selection at the beginning of the year
and I have them answer the questions at the end of the story, then ask them
to close their books and retell what they have read.  Most can't.  They
aren't actively involved in the process.

While reading, ask if anyone has visualized a scene or made a prediction or
asked a question in their headsmetacognition is making them aware of the
strategies since most of them do these naturally.
Bill


- Original Message - 
From: "gina nunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use


> My sixth graders and I are having interesting discussions about the
concepts
> of metacognition and reading strategies.  First, I just need to recount
the
> types of conversations we're having.
>
> Metacognition of course is being aware of the "voices in your head" while
> you read.  Sometimes your head is visualizing, or wondering, or
predicting,
> etc.  It just seems to be doing it on its own.  (well in response to text)
> Now strategic reading is a conscious choice.  Noticing what the mind seems
> to want to do on its own, we now try to use those kinds of thinking on
> purpose, to increase understanding.
>
> And this is where the kids get stuck.  How do you do this on purpose, and
> how do you decide when to do it?  First, they complain that all this on
> purpose stuff is getting in the way of their reading enjoyment.  I promise
> them that  this intensive and explicit use is short term, just to ensure
> that we can do it.
>
> But I have to admit I am not so skilled at teaching them when to
consciously
> be strategic.  What cue would you use to say...h think I'll visualize
> here and see if it helps.  I remember hearing Regie Routman say that
> honestly the number one strategy that gets results is simply rereading.
> That's easy to tell kids to do.  But do any of you have lessons ot ideas
on
> how to give kids instructions on consciously choosing a strategy?
>
> I had a student tell me that her head seems to just want to visualize.
She
> doesn't notice a lot of connections and questions etc.  Another student
just
> wonders throughout the text.  Matter of fact I am that kind of reader.
>
> So , and I know this isn't a new dilemma for MOT teachers, but once again
I
> am asking myself what I want to say to kids about strategic reading.
>
> I would love to hear from others how you distinguish metacognition from
> conscious application of strategies, and when do you call it a day.  And
do
> you think I have drawn the wrong distinctions between metacogntion and
> strategic reading?  Gina
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] metacognition or conscious strategy use

2006-10-22 Thread SooZQ55164
Gina,
In 4th grade we say that metacognition is "thinking about your thinking".  
It's an awareness of which strategies you might be using to help you at the  
time. They seem to get this. My problem has always been ggetting the struggling 
 
kids to really know when they don't know and stop right then and there and do  
something about it.
 
Sue
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