Re: [MOSAIC] literature circles to Laurie...long)

2008-02-17 Thread mimosa22
I support the struggling reader by having the book available on tape, and the 
special education teacher I have in my in-class support class takes them into 
small group to support the process of using strategic thinking. I lead a group 
in my other class for this same purpose. This way, they are able to to 
participate in discussions about character traits, theme, setting, etc. I think 
it is valuable to have a mentor text that all students can refer to as we read 
other books with a common theme. For students whose reading ability may be 
higher than the book, I request them to go deeper in their written reading 
response. 

It is the dilemma of a mixed ability classroom. I decide on the essential 
knowledge that I think the kids must acquire, based on our state standards. 
Then differentiate  by product, content, or process. For example, we read The 
Pinballs by Betsy Byars as a whole class read. I asked students to create a 
timeline of important events for any of the three main characters. They were to 
choose moments that were important for a character's personal growth and 
development, since determining importance in text was a strategy we had been 
working on. They had to justify why an event was chosen. I was looking for at 
least three major events for the character. They could present the timeline in 
one of many options...a traditional timeline done on a sentence strip, a 
cartoon strip timeline, a puppet show, an acted out timeline with a script or 
notecards, or a song or dance. I used a rubric to guide them and to score the 
work. They all did well with the reading and understanding of character deve
lopment. Some children had simple products and others were quite elaborate. 
However, I feel that the essential knowledge, analyzing a character's change 
through the course of the book, was adequately achieved by all.

Do you not do any whole class books with your class?
Maura
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Maura,
>  
> Sounds like you have lots of good things going on in book clubs.  If  the 
> roles work and you are hearing good discussions then that is great.   One 
> thing 
> I 
> wonder about and that is when the whole class reads the whole  book.  How is 
> ONE book "just right" for everyone in your class?  That  is the only thing 
> that confused me about your plan.
>  
> Off to bed.
>  
> Leslie
>  
>  
> In a message dated 2/9/2008 11:53:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Laurie,
> It doesn't sound like you have done anything wrong! I think  you should 
> continue to monitor the groups, allowing those students who still  do not 
> seem 
> to 
> get it to share their observations of those who are more  successful. 
> Reflection on what the others did and how he or she could do  better the next 
> time may 
> help. 
> 
> Third grade students are  developmentally diverse, or so I found when I 
> taught third. Some students may  just not be ready to fully take on the book 
> club 
> roles.  I am now  teaching fifth grade, and I find that four or five students 
> out of 26 come  unprepared for lit circle. I have them stay at their desks 
> completing their  role sheets before they can join the group. This way they 
> are 
> still getting  the in-depth analysis of the text, which, to me, is the 
> purpose 
> of the roles.  They are sometimes finished in enough time to join their 
> group. 
> Sometimes they  are not. We have class discussions about the impact on groups 
> when a member is  not prepared. Fifth grade children are  somewhat motivated 
> by peers to  get it together. 
> 
> I have an inclusion class in which I know a couple of  the children will not 
> be able to completely do this yet. However, they  continue to benefit by 
> seeing the exemplary model of others. At this point in  our lit circles, all 
> students have the same roles. So each group can see how  each student 
> completed 
> the 
> same job. We have one more job to go. After that,  we'll try the circles with 
> each child having a different job. Evaluations  (self and group) are also 
> part 
> of the learning process for them. This is the  most structured I have been in 
> setting up lit circles. I have mixed feelings  about  the formality of roles. 
> The books we use are presented as a choice  within our thematic units. We are 
> doing "Coming of Age" now and have read ON  MY HONOR and FROM THE MIXED UP 
> FILES OF MRS. BASIL E FRANKWEILER. When we try  the lit circles with 
> different 
> jobs, they can choose from BRIDGE TO TEREBITHIA  or HATCHET. 
> 
> Perhaps you can move away from roles. I rarely used them  in third. I would 
> rather give all the students the same comprehension task,  such as bringing 
> three questions and the answers or predictions. Perhaps they  would need to 
> identify two important moments in the text for the character.  This way, even 
> if 
> a 
> student did not do a thorough job, they still were

Re: [MOSAIC] literature circles to Laurie...long)

2008-02-16 Thread Lespop4
Maura,
 
Sounds like you have lots of good things going on in book clubs.  If  the 
roles work and you are hearing good discussions then that is great.   One thing 
I 
wonder about and that is when the whole class reads the whole  book.  How is 
ONE book "just right" for everyone in your class?  That  is the only thing 
that confused me about your plan.
 
Off to bed.
 
Leslie
 
 
In a message dated 2/9/2008 11:53:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Laurie,
It doesn't sound like you have done anything wrong! I think  you should 
continue to monitor the groups, allowing those students who still  do not seem 
to 
get it to share their observations of those who are more  successful. 
Reflection on what the others did and how he or she could do  better the next 
time may 
help. 

Third grade students are  developmentally diverse, or so I found when I 
taught third. Some students may  just not be ready to fully take on the book 
club 
roles.  I am now  teaching fifth grade, and I find that four or five students 
out of 26 come  unprepared for lit circle. I have them stay at their desks 
completing their  role sheets before they can join the group. This way they are 
still getting  the in-depth analysis of the text, which, to me, is the purpose 
of the roles.  They are sometimes finished in enough time to join their group. 
Sometimes they  are not. We have class discussions about the impact on groups 
when a member is  not prepared. Fifth grade children are  somewhat motivated 
by peers to  get it together. 

I have an inclusion class in which I know a couple of  the children will not 
be able to completely do this yet. However, they  continue to benefit by 
seeing the exemplary model of others. At this point in  our lit circles, all 
students have the same roles. So each group can see how  each student completed 
the 
same job. We have one more job to go. After that,  we'll try the circles with 
each child having a different job. Evaluations  (self and group) are also part 
of the learning process for them. This is the  most structured I have been in 
setting up lit circles. I have mixed feelings  about  the formality of roles. 
The books we use are presented as a choice  within our thematic units. We are 
doing "Coming of Age" now and have read ON  MY HONOR and FROM THE MIXED UP 
FILES OF MRS. BASIL E FRANKWEILER. When we try  the lit circles with different 
jobs, they can choose from BRIDGE TO TEREBITHIA  or HATCHET. 

Perhaps you can move away from roles. I rarely used them  in third. I would 
rather give all the students the same comprehension task,  such as bringing 
three questions and the answers or predictions. Perhaps they  would need to 
identify two important moments in the text for the character.  This way, even 
if a 
student did not do a thorough job, they still were lifted  by those in the 
groups who did better. They learned from each other and  improved. I also tried 
"talking chips" for groups who needed guidance in  sharing the conversation. 
Each student was given four two-colored counters.  Each time he or she spoke, 
the chip had to be placed in the center. When all  of a child's chips were 
used, 
he or she had to wait for others to use their  chips before that child could 
share again. I also found it easier to have  everyone in the class reading the 
same book. This way, we could have whole  group discussions to supplement the 
smaller book club meetings. 

So  hang in there with it. Look at what you want the children to learn from 
the  lit circles and focus your teaching there. You sound like you put a lot of 
 thought into it!
Best,
Maura
5/NJ

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dear  Readers,
> 
> My third grade class is struggling with book clubs  this year. I purposely 
set 
> out to model, model, model what is  expected of a book club member.  We 
read a 
> book in  a  whole-group setting and practiced the four roles so that every 
> table  group had a chance to experience each role. The roles are: Word 
Wizard,  
> Summarizer,  Big Idea Sketcher, Question Master, and Character  Monitor. We 
even 
> did a few "fish bowl" discussions where I sat in to  model how a 
conversation 
> works. while the rest of the class sat in a  circle around us and observed. 
 I 
> thought we were ready.   Now that they are half way through the books, I 
see that 
> perhaps even  more modeling was needed. 
> 
> I stressed how important it was to  come to the group prepared and how it 
was 
> their responsibility to get  the reading done on time.  I felt that I gave 
them 
> plenty of  time to do the reading and prepare for their jobshowever, as 
I 
>  circulate from group to group during the discussin time, I notice that a 
good  
> third of the class is not prepared.  They either haven't  finished the 
reading 
> or their job is only half completed.   During the discussion time they get 
so 
> loud that no one can hear  th

Re: [MOSAIC] literature circles to Laurie...long)

2008-02-09 Thread mimosa22
Laurie,
It doesn't sound like you have done anything wrong! I think you should continue 
to monitor the groups, allowing those students who still do not seem to get it 
to share their observations of those who are more successful. Reflection on 
what the others did and how he or she could do better the next time may help. 

Third grade students are developmentally diverse, or so I found when I taught 
third. Some students may just not be ready to fully take on the book club 
roles.  I am now teaching fifth grade, and I find that four or five students 
out of 26 come unprepared for lit circle. I have them stay at their desks 
completing their role sheets before they can join the group. This way they are 
still getting the in-depth analysis of the text, which, to me, is the purpose 
of the roles. They are sometimes finished in enough time to join their group. 
Sometimes they are not. We have class discussions about the impact on groups 
when a member is not prepared. Fifth grade children are  somewhat motivated by 
peers to get it together. 

I have an inclusion class in which I know a couple of the children will not be 
able to completely do this yet. However, they continue to benefit by seeing the 
exemplary model of others. At this point in our lit circles, all students have 
the same roles. So each group can see how each student completed the same job. 
We have one more job to go. After that, we'll try the circles with each child 
having a different job. Evaluations (self and group) are also part of the 
learning process for them. This is the most structured I have been in setting 
up lit circles. I have mixed feelings about  the formality of roles. The books 
we use are presented as a choice within our thematic units. We are doing 
"Coming of Age" now and have read ON MY HONOR and FROM THE MIXED UP FILES OF 
MRS. BASIL E FRANKWEILER. When we try the lit circles with different jobs, they 
can choose from BRIDGE TO TEREBITHIA or HATCHET. 

Perhaps you can move away from roles. I rarely used them in third. I would 
rather give all the students the same comprehension task, such as bringing 
three questions and the answers or predictions. Perhaps they would need to 
identify two important moments in the text for the character. This way, even if 
a student did not do a thorough job, they still were lifted by those in the 
groups who did better. They learned from each other and improved. I also tried 
"talking chips" for groups who needed guidance in sharing the conversation. 
Each student was given four two-colored counters. Each time he or she spoke, 
the chip had to be placed in the center. When all of a child's chips were used, 
he or she had to wait for others to use their chips before that child could 
share again. I also found it easier to have everyone in the class reading the 
same book. This way, we could have whole group discussions to supplement the 
smaller book club meetings. 

So hang in there with it. Look at what you want the children to learn from the 
lit circles and focus your teaching there. You sound like you put a lot of 
thought into it!
Best,
Maura
5/NJ

 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dear Readers,
> 
> My third grade class is struggling with book clubs this year. I purposely set 
> out to model, model, model what is expected of a book club member.  We read a 
> book in  a whole-group setting and practiced the four roles so that every 
> table group had a chance to experience each role. The roles are: Word Wizard, 
> Summarizer,  Big Idea Sketcher, Question Master, and Character Monitor. We 
> even 
> did a few "fish bowl" discussions where I sat in to model how a conversation 
> works. while the rest of the class sat in a circle around us and observed.  I 
> thought we were ready.  Now that they are half way through the books, I see 
> that 
> perhaps even more modeling was needed. 
> 
> I stressed how important it was to come to the group prepared and how it was 
> their responsibility to get the reading done on time.  I felt that I gave 
> them 
> plenty of time to do the reading and prepare for their jobshowever, as I 
> circulate from group to group during the discussin time, I notice that a good 
> third of the class is not prepared.  They either haven't finished the reading 
> or their job is only half completed.  During the discussion time they get so 
> loud that no one can hear themselves talk.   Again, I've modeled and we have 
> role-played and brainstormedwhat have I done wrong?  
> 
> Thanks for any feedback you might have to offer.
> 
> Laurie Tandy
> Third Grade
> California
> 
> 
> 
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