Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham

 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi - doesn't allow me to look
 for mostfreq in particular component.  For example, if I'm only
 interested in mail product's mostfreq bugs.

shrug Fair enough, then. :-) Just don't expect me to pay any attention
to it
. ;-)

Gerv




Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread Alex

Gervase Markham wrote:

 Don't bother marking bugs with the mostfreq keyword any more -
 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi does the magic without needing
 this. 
 
 Gerv
 

Automation helps, but what's the magic dup number that 
Bugzilla relies on before putting it in the Most Frequently 
Reported Bugs list? Nine?

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Re: Mozilla (Netscape), AOL, and WinXP

2001-06-05 Thread jesus X

JTK wrote:
  When AOL ships the next versions of their product, why would they agree to
  use Microsoft IE products as the default product for AOL instead of
  imbedding Mozilla?
 Try a nightly.

BZT! Wrong answer. It's to keep them on the Windows XP desktop. And
currently that's not enough for MS, so AOL has walked away from the table for
now...

  Is it that important to AOL to be on the Windows XP
  desktop?
 Yes.

Depends. Their carpet-bombing of AOL CDs HAS to be SOMEWHAT effective to keep
doing it.

  Does this mean that they will eventually fold up Netscape into
  their AOL proprietary interfaces?
 I don't understand the question.  AOL will do whatever results in the
 most US$ lining Steve Case's pockets.

Actually, now it's they do what lines the Shareholder's pockets. Steve Case will
get the can as soon as they're unhappy.

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Re: Mozilla Java Plugin

2001-06-05 Thread Pratik Solanki

Just opne it in Mozilla and it should install the xpi. After 
installation make sure libjavaplugin_oji.so is in your mozilla/plugins 
directory. If you don't see it, create a symbolic link as follows

$ cd mozilla/plugins
$ ln -s java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so

- Pratik.

Wilson Fletcher wrote:

 I downloaded jre.xpi from ftp.netscape.com. How do I install it ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Wilson
 





Re: Mozilla mail crash

2001-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

good advice.

i'd also do a scan for virus, trojans, worms, and do a scandisk,
cleanmgr, regclean. then restart.




Re: Bookmarks

2001-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

actually i like a blank bookmark list the first time i use a browser,
then i import my old ones. mozilla has been improved. the personal
bookmark is great. i use it most often. now if only it supports
drag-and-drop rearrangement or adding bookmarks.




Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread jesus X

Alex wrote:
 Automation helps, but what's the magic dup number that
 Bugzilla relies on before putting it in the Most Frequently
 Reported Bugs list? Nine?

42?

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MOZILLA MACRO DATABASE

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Hi

Does anyone have the list of all macros and it's resolvations in
MOZILLA

Help me please.

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Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread Garth Wallace

Alex wrote:

 Gervase Markham wrote:
 
 Don't bother marking bugs with the mostfreq keyword any more -
 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi does the magic without needing
 this.
 Gerv

 
 Automation helps, but what's the magic dup number that Bugzilla relies 
 on before putting it in the Most Frequently Reported Bugs list? Nine?

23

fnord





Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham

  Don't bother marking bugs with the mostfreq keyword any more -
  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi does the magic without needing
  this.
 
  Gerv
 
 
 Automation helps, but what's the magic dup number that
 Bugzilla relies on before putting it in the Most Frequently
 Reported Bugs list? Nine?

There's no magic number; it's a configurable parameter.
my $threshold = Param(mostfreqthreshold);
I don't know what Dawn's got it set to.

However, it is more likely to be limited by the number of rows. The
default for this is 100, but you can change it by changing the URL encoded
param maxrows.
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi?maxrows=10

Gerv




Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread Stuart Ballard

Gervase Markham wrote:
 
 Don't bother marking bugs with the mostfreq keyword any more -
 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi does the magic without needing
 this.

A couple of questions...

1) Does this correctly account for dups of dups? eg
 Bug A has 20 dups
 Bug A is marked dup of Bug B (which previously had none)
   IMHO, the correct behavior would be for Bug B to appear on the
   list, with 21 dups. Is this what happens?

2) Couldn't this be accomplished more cleanly by adding a num_dups field
to the bug itself? Then the only code changes necessary would be to set
bug_b.num_dups += bug_a.num_dups + 1; whenever bug_a is marked dup of
bug_b (with a little extra complexity if bug_b is already marked dup of
something else). That would provide this functionality and also make it
possible to add minimum/maximum num_dups to the query page, providing
the abilities that other people in this thread have been asking for (and
also making duplicates.cgi VERY easy to implement...)

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Links

2001-06-05 Thread Fulvio Perini

Pardon my ignorance.There may be a fix somewhere,but I have not found
it. This relates to links in e-mail. Typically,once you click on a
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is unexpected. I reported to the Netscape6 for windows group,with no
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Help! @ sign in POP3 Username

2001-06-05 Thread Al \Bear\

Greetings.  I'm hoping someone can help here, as Netscape Support seem to be
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Our local mail server uses POP3 usernames in the format [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

bob wrote:
 
 JTK wrote:
 
  The correct answer is about 3 years and 3 months but there was maybe 6
  months background preparation. A bit of a false start and the
  concentration of the mail/news team on Communicator 4.5 produced a loss
  of 9 months to one year depending on how you look at it.
 
  3 years, 3 months to create a browser?  Wow.
 
 
  Nonono Marc, to create a *platform*, Mozilla's a *platform*.  Just like
  that wildly successful coffee-named *platform* that nobody remembers.
 
 What do you mean 'A Platform'? Thats pretty vague. It's a platform for what?

Well, far as I can tell, for using up as much RAM as possible while
providing the least amount of usability.  But the Maozilla Politburo
will tell you it's gonna someday maybe next year if all goes well and
the sun doesn't go behind a cloud somehow kill Micro$oft because Linux
finally has a web browser.  Yeah, I don't get it either.




Re: Mozilla (Netscape), AOL, and WinXP

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

jesus X wrote:
 
 JTK wrote:
   When AOL ships the next versions of their product, why would they agree to
   use Microsoft IE products as the default product for AOL instead of
   imbedding Mozilla?
  Try a nightly.
 
 BZT! Wrong answer. It's to keep them on the Windows XP desktop.

Oh yeah, right right.  Has nothing to do with the fact that Maozilla is
an insane, slow memory hog.

 And
 currently that's not enough for MS, so AOL has walked away from the table for
 now...


Last I hear it was on again.  Changes from minute to minute though.
 
   Is it that important to AOL to be on the Windows XP
   desktop?
  Yes.
 
 Depends. Their carpet-bombing of AOL CDs HAS to be SOMEWHAT effective to keep
 doing it.


So let's recap here.  In sentence one you claim It's to keep them on
the Windows XP desktop, and in sentence two you're claiming that being
on said desktop may not be all that important to them.  Pick a lane man!
 
   Does this mean that they will eventually fold up Netscape into
   their AOL proprietary interfaces?
  I don't understand the question.  AOL will do whatever results in the
  most US$ lining Steve Case's pockets.
 
 Actually, now it's they do what lines the Shareholder's pockets. Steve Case will
 get the can as soon as they're unhappy.


Same diff.  What's good for the shareholders is good for Case and vice
versa and bad for customers.




Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
which I don't want there until I need it.




Re: mostfreq deprecated

2001-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham

 1) Does this correctly account for dups of dups? eg

Yes.

 2) Couldn't this be accomplished more cleanly by adding a num_dups field
 to the bug itself? 

No, because if something is un-dupped you get trouble.

I did think about this quite hard when I implemented it, honest :-)

 possible to add minimum/maximum num_dups to the query page, providing

We already have this. Well, just about.

duplicates.cgi has several parameters:
changedsince - days ago for the Changed since column; lets you see
what's been mostdupped recently
maxrows - how many rows you want. If you are sorting by dup count, this
provides min dup functionality.
sortby - can be dup_count, bug_no and delta. Defines the sorting of
the columns.

Gerv




Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham

 What do you mean 'A Platform'? Thats pretty vague. It's a platform for what?

Tip 1: Ignore JTK. :-)

Mozilla is a web application platform; that is, you can create
applications using standard web technologies such as HTML, XHTML, CSS,
Javascript and the DOM and they will run under Mozilla. You can go up a
level and create even more complex apps using XUL and XBL, but they will
be Mozilla-specific.

See http://www.mozdev.org for examples of what can be achieved.

Gerv




Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG

JTK wrote:

 bob wrote:
 
JTK wrote:


The correct answer is about 3 years and 3 months but there was maybe 6
months background preparation. A bit of a false start and the
concentration of the mail/news team on Communicator 4.5 produced a loss
of 9 months to one year depending on how you look at it.

3 years, 3 months to create a browser?  Wow.


Nonono Marc, to create a *platform*, Mozilla's a *platform*.  Just like
that wildly successful coffee-named *platform* that nobody remembers.

What do you mean 'A Platform'? Thats pretty vague. It's a platform for what?

 
 Well, far as I can tell, for using up as much RAM as possible while
 providing the least amount of usability.  But the Maozilla Politburo
 will tell you it's gonna someday maybe next year if all goes well and
 the sun doesn't go behind a cloud somehow kill Micro$oft because Linux
 finally has a web browser.  Yeah, I don't get it either.
 

Since Mozilla's framework is the basis for a very, very expensive (a few 
hundred $$$) software and that's selling very well, I fail to see your 
point.  Linux has had a webbrowser.

Mozilla is a weird devil.  It's a web browser.  The way that it is 
designed though, the browser is really on a plugin of sorts.  You could 
make a word processor out of it, an IDE for multiple programming 
languages, you could make mail and news clients, web page software, just 
about anything.

Microsoft won't be killed.  Microsoft will simply end up with 20% of the 
browser share and keep it's 80% of the OS market





Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG

JTK wrote:

 I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
 rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
 software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
 which I don't want there until I need it.
 

I installed the nightly from last night.  I didn't have to reboot.  Hey, 
why are you using Mozilla.  It's so buggy and unstable and worthless. 
Get the hell of the browser then.  Don't complain about it and then use 
it, you freaking hypocrit





Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread Marc Leger

 Microsoft won't be killed.  Microsoft will simply end up with 20% of the
 browser share and keep it's 80% of the OS market

Say what?

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2001/May/browser.html

You're telling me Microsoft is going from 86% to 20%.  That's a decrease of
66%.

BUWHAHAHA!  Yeah right.  I hope Windows XP is Netscape and Mozilla's final
nail in their coffin.






Subscribe Problems

2001-06-05 Thread Eddie Billie

I have been trying to subscribe to another newsgroup - specifically: 
corel.support.wordperfect8suite-wordperfect.  My server is news.qwest.net.  I right 
click and get a window with a listing: Subscribe to Newsgroups.  I click on that and 
get another window with a list of Newsgroups.  The one I want is listed but is shows 
that it contains zero messages.  I can subscribe but the file is empty.

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong - or what I should be doing?

Thank you - Eddie Walker


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How do I create a non-wrapping textarea in 4.01 strict?

2001-06-05 Thread David Joham

Hi all!

I've got what has to be a silly question, but I can't figure it out at the 
moment.

I'm trying to create a valid HTML 4.01 STRICT document. In this document is 
a textarea that I do NOT want to have word wrapped.

The problem is that mozilla insists on word wrapping no matter what I do 
unless I break the 4.01 strict rules.

Here's what I see:
If I leave the rows and cols attributes off of the textarea, mozilla will 
not wrap the text. However, rows and cols are required by 4.01 strict

No matter what I do, if I put rows and cols attributes in the textarea, 
mozilla wraps the text. Even if I put rows=999 cols=9

As an FYI, I'm using stylesheets and absolute positioning to place the 
element on the screen.

Am I missing something? What is the correct way of doing this. 

Thanks,

David
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Re: 'FAT' table rows

2001-06-05 Thread Jason Fleshman

Clarence (Andreas M. Schneider) wrote:

 Jason Fleshman wrote:
 
I have a similar problem, but it's not paragraph-related that I can see.
  The two pages below are exactly the same, with the exception that one
explicitly uses the 4.01 Loose DTD.  Notice the extra vertical spacing
in the TDs, especially the ones I'm using as borders.  (It's very
noticeable in the menus at the top of the page.)  Should I be using
 img {margin: 0px; padding: 0px;} in my style sheet as well?

 
 Looks like http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22274
 (resolved invalid). You may want to use img { display: block }
 (maybe not for all images).
 
 Clarence


Thanks, your suggestion worked perfectly -- didn't even break NN4!

Of course, as several people pointed out in the bug, I should probably 
make a page that more closely follows the spirit of the HTML 4 spec, but 
that's a project for another day.

--Jason







Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

Marc Leger wrote:
 
  Microsoft won't be killed.  Microsoft will simply end up with 20% of the
  browser share and keep it's 80% of the OS market
 
 Say what?
 
 http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2001/May/browser.html
 
 You're telling me Microsoft is going from 86% to 20%.  That's a decrease of
 66%.
 

Pfhht.  Yeah, real statistically significant numbers there Marc, what
with a sample size of only ~three-quarters of a BILLION hits.  And
anyway, it's just a popularity contest.  The real question is, how
*standards compliant* are those three-quarters of a billion hits?  Sure
Maozilla's at 0% now, but boy howdy, Wait 'Til Next Year(TM) Marc! 
Mathuzilla will have almost *twice* as many users Next Year!

 BUWHAHAHA!  Yeah right.  I hope Windows XP is Netscape and Mozilla's final
 nail in their coffin.

Looks to me like AOL doesn't need much help in the coffin-nail
department as far as Netscape and Mathuzilla are concerned.




Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

DeMoN_LaG wrote:
 
 JTK wrote:
 
  I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
  rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
  software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
  which I don't want there until I need it.
 
 
 I installed the nightly from last night.  I didn't have to reboot.

Neither did I, but it wanted me to.  I still haven't done so.  Still
wondering what it's gonna do to me.  Nobody seems to want to answer that
simple question.

  Hey,
 why are you using Mozilla.

I'm not actually.  Can you believe it: I'm still using the Communicator
4.x series?!!  I mean, how old and crusty is that?!  Oh, and the IE6
preview, which works quite nicely.  And in fact hasn't crashed on me
once come to think of it

  It's so buggy and unstable and worthless.

Amen.  You forgot piggish.

 Get the hell of the browser then.  Don't complain about it and then use
 it, you freaking hypocrit

Calm down, calm down, ya freaking hippie.  Like I said, I'm not using
it.  Nobody is in fact, according to every web counter out there.




Re: Profile manager

2001-06-05 Thread Christopher Jahn

And it came to pass that MrNorton wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I try to create a new profile manually, without using
 the profile 
 manager.
 

Why?


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Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread nee

DeMoN_LaG wrote:

 JTK wrote:
 
 bob wrote:

 JTK wrote:


 The correct answer is about 3 years and 3 months but there was 
 maybe 6
 months background preparation. A bit of a false start and the
 concentration of the mail/news team on Communicator 4.5 produced a 
 loss
 of 9 months to one year depending on how you look at it.

 3 years, 3 months to create a browser?  Wow.


 Nonono Marc, to create a *platform*, Mozilla's a *platform*.  Just like
 that wildly successful coffee-named *platform* that nobody remembers.

 What do you mean 'A Platform'? Thats pretty vague. It's a platform 
 for what?


 Well, far as I can tell, for using up as much RAM as possible while
 providing the least amount of usability.  But the Maozilla Politburo
 will tell you it's gonna someday maybe next year if all goes well and
 the sun doesn't go behind a cloud somehow kill Micro$oft because Linux
 finally has a web browser.  Yeah, I don't get it either.

 
 Since Mozilla's framework is the basis for a very, very expensive (a few 
 hundred $$$) software and that's selling very well, I fail to see your 
 point.  Linux has had a webbrowser.
 
 Mozilla is a weird devil.  It's a web browser.  The way that it is 
 designed though, the browser is really on a plugin of sorts.  You could 
 make a word processor out of it, an IDE for multiple programming 
 languages, you could make mail and news clients, web page software, just 
 about anything.
 
 Microsoft won't be killed.  Microsoft will simply end up with 20% of the 
 browser share and keep it's 80% of the OS market
 

Preach it.





Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread fire-eyes

Marc Leger wrote:

Microsoft won't be killed.  Microsoft will simply end up with 20% of the
browser share and keep it's 80% of the OS market

 
 Say what?
 
 http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2001/May/browser.html
 
 You're telling me Microsoft is going from 86% to 20%.  That's a decrease of
 66%.
 
 BUWHAHAHA!  Yeah right.  I hope Windows XP is Netscape and Mozilla's final
 nail in their coffin.


Now now, you IE users don't want that. Really, think aboout it: Mozilla 
/ netscape etc goes away.

No competition for IE. Not really a compelling reason to keep improving 
on it, at least not at the rate it has (supposedly) been doing.

You may not like NS/moz, I don't like IE. But we both better admit they 
compell each other to keep getting better, more so than if either was alone.





Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread fire-eyes

JTK wrote:

 I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
 rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
 software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
 which I don't want there until I need it.
 


Odd, I'm running 2001060504 on NT 4.0 server sp 6 and It didn't ask me 
to reboot at all.





Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread fire-eyes

JTK wrote:

 DeMoN_LaG wrote:
 
JTK wrote:


I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
which I don't want there until I need it.


I installed the nightly from last night.  I didn't have to reboot.

 
 Neither did I, but it wanted me to.  I still haven't done so.  Still
 wondering what it's gonna do to me.  Nobody seems to want to answer that
 simple question.
 
 
 Hey,
why are you using Mozilla.

 
 I'm not actually.  Can you believe it: I'm still using the Communicator
 4.x series?!!  I mean, how old and crusty is that?!  Oh, and the IE6
 preview, which works quite nicely.  And in fact hasn't crashed on me
 once come to think of it


Damn well better not crash on you if its part of the os cough. Nice to 
hear thats not a problem anymore.



 It's so buggy and unstable and worthless.

 
 Amen.  You forgot piggish.
 
 
Get the hell of the browser then.  Don't complain about it and then use
it, you freaking hypocrit

 
 Calm down, calm down, ya freaking hippie.  Like I said, I'm not using
 it.  Nobody is in fact, according to every web counter out there.
 


I wasn't going to say anything but I am now. These counters don't mean 
as much as people seem to think, hell you can have opera and many other 
browsers pretend to be anything.





Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread jesus X

Marc Leger wrote:
 You're telling me Microsoft is going from 86% to 20%.  That's a decrease of
 66%.

Umm, there was a time when Netscape had 90+ percent of the market, and MS was
nowhere to be found. Pinhead.

 BUWHAHAHA!  Yeah right.  I hope Windows XP is Netscape and Mozilla's final
 nail in their coffin.

Yeah, an OS is going to kill an application that runs on more platforms that the
OS. Sre.

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Re: Animated Gifs

2001-06-05 Thread Greg Trounson

A practical 'real-world' example is visiting www.gimp.org.  
In the top-left corner, the little gimp logo has the ugly black
background.

Greg


Steve Bowen wrote:
 
 Hi again, just installed 2001-06-01-16 (latest 0.9.1) win
 and this bug is still there.
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 SVG examples for Mozilla

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Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

nee wrote:
 

[snip]

 
  Microsoft won't be killed.  Microsoft will simply end up with 20% of the
  browser share and keep it's 80% of the OS market
 
 
 Preach it.

HUH-GLORAH!  CAN AH GET A WITNESS?!?...  AH SAY, CAN AH GET A... h...
hello?  Hellooo??




Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread Gord McFee

DeMoN_LaG wrote:

 JTK wrote:
 
 I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
 rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
 software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
 which I don't want there until I need it.
 
 I installed the nightly from last night.  I didn't have to reboot.  Hey, 
 why are you using Mozilla.  It's so buggy and unstable and worthless. 
 Get the hell of the browser then.  Don't complain about it and then use 
 it, you freaking hypocrit


I have installed every nightly since the beginning of time and I have 
never had to reboot.  But consider the source and remember Grevase's 
wise words about ignoring this clown.

-- 
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time





Re: Help! @ sign in POP3 Username

2001-06-05 Thread David Hallowell

Al \Bear\ wrote:

  Our local mail server uses POP3 usernames in the format
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (as multiple domains are hosted on our servers)
   instead of the normal mailboxname .  Problem is, Netscape
  Messenger only seems to accept single simple usernames to check
  accounts.  This means each time we try and check email, it fails
  with an error message.

You say Netscape Messenger so I assume you mean 4.x. There newsgroups
are for the Mozilla project at www.mozilla.org, Mozilla forms the basis
of Netscape 6.x (the current 6.01 is based on a very old release of
Mozilla and should not be taken as a current indication of the project).


 
  Anyone know how I can send the actual username [EMAIL PROTECTED]

First of all, you may want to check to see if your server accepts the %
sign in the username as opposed to @, many servers do.

If that doesn't work then you should try adding the following line in
prefs.js (which by default lives in C:\Program
Files\Netscape\Users\default\ on Windows and ~/.netscape/ on UNIX/Linux)
user_pref(mail.allow_at_sign_in_user_name, true);

You might as well also take the opportunity to upgrade to 4.77 if you 
want to stick with the Netscape 4.x series. Don't bother with Netscape 
6.01, but the next Netscape release (possibly called 6.5) is going to be 
based on a more recent version of Mozilla so will be a greatly superior 
product and is worth a try.

 
  Regards Al Radical Light, Technical Support Section Please note,
  this domain may not accept incoming messages in HTML format. HTML
  format messages can spread viruses

No they can't! They're just usually pointless.

  and are not universally accepted. Your email package should send
  plain text messages instead.
True :)


-- 
David Hallowell
UKUUG Linux 2001 Conference
http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2001/





The bookmark management window

2001-06-05 Thread Ashant

I have been using the bookmark management window, and think that it
would be nice if I could have the preference to change the default
behaviour of the double-click -- it should open the properties of the
book mark rather than open it in a new window. I mean that's what
seems more intuitive -- when you see a list of bookmarks and you
double click on one of them, it should tell you more about it!

What do you think? I suggest this should be a user preference

Ashant.




Re: Whats Related Button.

2001-06-05 Thread Fulvio Perini

Steve Sprague wrote:

I cant the Whats Related button to appear in the side bar. Even if I try to
add it. It shows up in the list but is doesnt appear in the side-bar.

Thanks for any help!
Steve


I have no problem with Mozilla 0.9.What are you using?

-- 
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Omaha,NE 68124

Definition of an upgrade:it fixes some problem,while creating new ones.   







Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread Marc Leger

 Now now, you IE users don't want that. Really, think aboout it: Mozilla
 / netscape etc goes away.

I want Microsoft everything.  I want to call a .NET webservice and my dog
brings me the paper.

 No competition for IE. Not really a compelling reason to keep improving
 on it, at least not at the rate it has (supposedly) been doing.

IE 6 is still beta.  You can rant all you want once it's released.  I doubt
Microsoft will release 6 PREMATURELY like somebody.  I doubt I will ever see
the day when Billy Boy announces to the world, We had to release 6.0.
Don't blame me, it was our marketing department's idea.  Sorry for all the
systems we hosed.

 You may not like NS/moz, I don't like IE. But we both better admit they
 compell each other to keep getting better, more so than if either was
alone.

I agree.  BUT, until Netscape releases a STABLE browser that KILLS Netscape
4.x, I will maintain my position.  And that is, Netscape sucks.
Netscape/Mozilla preach the webstandards gospel til they are blue in the
face.  But, they don't practice what they preach.  Netscape 4.x is still
available for download.

CAN I GET AN AMEN!?!

;)






Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread Marc Leger

 Umm, there was a time when Netscape had 90+ percent of the market, and MS
was
 nowhere to be found. Pinhead.

And look at Netscape/Mozilla's market share now, numbnuts.

 Yeah, an OS is going to kill an application that runs on more platforms
that the
 OS. Sre.

Microsoft is taking over the internetdeal with it.






Re: Popup error won't go away

2001-06-05 Thread Fulvio Perini

brettr wrote:

I'm running Netscape 4.7. I just reinstall after formatting my HD and get a
popup error message about can't find temporary file on C:.  It says to set
this in the preferences box.  There is no preferences box. The popup occurs
each time I start Netscape.

I did go into the Netscape preferences but don't see anything references a
temporary directory or folder. Where should I look and for what?

Thanks,
brettr



Before doing anything, go to Windows Explorer--Windows and look for a 
Temp folder.I  am just guessing  that you do not have one,after  your 
hard drive work. For some reason,there is a folder called nscomm,which 
sounds a lot like Netscape Communicator.I  never saw anything there,but 
it may be looking  for it. I am working from  Mozilla 0.9, and the 
preferences are different here,but,I do not recall  any reference to a 
Temp or whatever.
If nothing turns up,get the secnews netscape communicator Message 
Board.It is more appropriate for 4.7x stuff.
It was at: http://www.ufaq.org but it had changed some to: 
http://www.ufaq.org/default.html Just click on rhe desired Message 
Board.Make sure that you change the port to 563 in the Newsgroup.Contact 
me at my address,if nothing works.

-- 
Fulvio Perini
Omaha,NE 68124

Definition of an upgrade:it fixes some problem,while creating new ones.   







Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG

JTK wrote:

 DeMoN_LaG wrote:
 
JTK wrote:


I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
which I don't want there until I need it.


I installed the nightly from last night.  I didn't have to reboot.

 
 Neither did I, but it wanted me to.  I still haven't done so.  Still
 wondering what it's gonna do to me.  Nobody seems to want to answer that
 simple question.


I was never asked to reboot


 
 
 Hey,
why are you using Mozilla.

 
 I'm not actually.  Can you believe it: I'm still using the Communicator
 4.x series?!!  I mean, how old and crusty is that?!  Oh, and the IE6
 preview, which works quite nicely.  And in fact hasn't crashed on me
 once come to think of it


I can't browse with more than 2 windows in IE6.  Past two and it's 
illegal operation time.  Couple of times it caused my entire OS to go 
down (Win 2k SP2).  Not pretty


 
 
 It's so buggy and unstable and worthless.

 
 Amen.  You forgot piggish.


Go use IE.  Go back to the Windows Update site every 3 days to get a fix 
for some new VB script vulnerability, or frame spoof, or some other hack 
that let's people format my drive or steal a credit card number


 
 
Get the hell of the browser then.  Don't complain about it and then use
it, you freaking hypocrit

 
 Calm down, calm down, ya freaking hippie.  Like I said, I'm not using
 it.  Nobody is in fact, according to every web counter out there.


Really.  It's funny, cause m3dzone.com has a webcounter that is 
currently showing Mozilla with a 3% martket share.  3% for a product 
that isn't even finished, released, or being advertised ain't bad





Re: Umm, why does the latest nightly want me to reboot?

2001-06-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG

fire-eyes wrote:

 DeMoN_LaG wrote:
 
 JTK wrote:

 I and everyone else on the planet despise software which requires
 rebooting after install.  Especially if doing so is only so that said
 software can load (or rather, preload) a bunch of crap into memory
 which I don't want there until I need it.


 I installed the nightly from last night.  I didn't have to reboot.  
 Hey, why are you using Mozilla.  It's so buggy and unstable and 
 worthless. Get the hell of the browser then.  Don't complain about it 
 and then use it, you freaking hypocrit

 
 Way to support people who are curious enough to find out how to get it 
 and then use it.
 

JTK is a troll that does nothing but complain and bitch, and also on 
occasion has a tendancy to bend the truth or flat out lie.  He always 
complains and says Mozilla sucks and they should just stop working on it 
now and give up and let IE win, etc.  So I'm just pointing out if he is 
going to talk about how much it sucks constantly, but now he's 
downloading nightlies and using it he really oughta STFU already and 
stop being a hypocrit





Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG

jesus X wrote:

 Marc Leger wrote:
 
You're telling me Microsoft is going from 86% to 20%.  That's a decrease of
66%.

 
 Umm, there was a time when Netscape had 90+ percent of the market, and MS was
 nowhere to be found. Pinhead.


He's just saying it's impossible for that to reverse.  He's like a dumb 
supervillian.  The hero has a weapon that makes him unstoppable, and the 
villain takes it away.  The villain then thinks he is unstoppable, 
because he has the weapon.  He doesn't realize that at one point his 
adversary had it, and he lost anyway


 
 
BUWHAHAHA!  Yeah right.  I hope Windows XP is Netscape and Mozilla's final
nail in their coffin.

 
 Yeah, an OS is going to kill an application that runs on more platforms that the
 OS. Sre.

I imagine he thinks that somehow IE on XP is going to run on Linux and BeOS?





Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread Carlfish

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:14:03 -0500, Marc Leger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 somehow managed to type:
IE 6 is still beta.  You can rant all you want once it's released.  I doubt
Microsoft will release 6 PREMATURELY like somebody.  I doubt I will ever see
the day when Billy Boy announces to the world, We had to release 6.0.
Don't blame me, it was our marketing department's idea.  Sorry for all the
systems we hosed.

Sorry, you've already seen it many times. The most apt example is Internet
Explorer 4.0. It was buggy as all hell. Installing it was a perfect recipe
to make your OS unstable, and often unrecoverable. But it was released
because Marketing needed to tie the browser to the Operating System as
soon as possible.

Or look at the first cut of Windows 95, the operating system you had to
reinstall every three months or face total meltdown. Or Windows 3.0. Or
DOS 6.0. At the time Windows 2000 was released, Microsoft were already
preparing the first fixpack.

Point-zero releases of commercial software products are _always_ the point
at which marketing steps in and says we can't wait for you to fix it any
more, let's ship.[1] Many companies are now deliberately avoiding
point-zero version numbers, just because of the stigma attached to them.

Charles miller
  [1] Funnily enough, the two most egregious offenders I could think of
  are Microsoft and RedHat.




text runs into more text

2001-06-05 Thread dan

Everytime I view a web page that has a table and a hyper link, the text
runs into the next table and I cant read the text on the end. At first I
thought it was one of my preferences, but that doesn't seem to be the
case. I am using Mandrake 8.0 and just upgraded to the newest build today
and still no luck.

Any clues? I had been using SuSE and didnt have these problems until I
switched to Mandrake

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

In article 9fk6si$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marc Leger says...

 Umm, there was a time when Netscape had 90+ percent of the market, and MS
was
 nowhere to be found. Pinhead.

And look at Netscape/Mozilla's market share now, numbnuts.


0% and doubling every Year!

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

 Yeah, an OS is going to kill an application that runs on more platforms
that the
 OS. Sre.

Microsoft is taking over the internetdeal with it.

has completely and utterly taken over on the client.

--
JTK




Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread JTK

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], DeMoN_LaG says...

jesus X wrote:

 Marc Leger wrote:
 
You're telling me Microsoft is going from 86% to 20%.  That's a decrease of
66%.

 
 Umm, there was a time when Netscape had 90+ percent of the market, and MS was
 nowhere to be found. Pinhead.


He's just saying it's impossible for that to reverse.

Yeah, um, no, he's saying that it's impossible for Mozilla or the Politburo at
Netscape OpenHQ to play any part in such a hypothetical reversal.

  He's like a dumb 
supervillian.  The hero has a weapon that makes him unstoppable, and the 
villain takes it away.  The villain then thinks he is unstoppable, 
because he has the weapon.  He doesn't realize that at one point his 
adversary had it, and he lost anyway


The hero had... then the... and he said... what now?


 
 
BUWHAHAHA!  Yeah right.  I hope Windows XP is Netscape and Mozilla's final
nail in their coffin.

 
 Yeah, an OS is going to kill an application that runs on more platforms that the
 OS. Sre.

I imagine he thinks that somehow IE on XP is going to run on Linux and BeOS?


I imagine 99.44% of the desktops (and 99.99% of the laptops) in the
world will never know what a Linux or a Beos is.


--
JTK




Re: General Question

2001-06-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG

JTK wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], DeMoN_LaG says...


 
 Um, which ones?  I've used them all, FINISHED, betas available to the general
 public, and betas not available to the general public, on both the Win9x and
 WinNT series OSs, and none of them did any hosing of anything.


Have you ever heard of IE 4.0?


 
 
 Also, remember 
this is about Mozilla.  Not netscape 6.

 
 Ah yes, to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to.  Let's call the whole thing off.


You are claiming N6 was prematurely released.  This is a mozilla group. 
  Mozilla was not prematurely released.  It has yet to be released


 
 
 Mozilla is not released.  You 
can't sit there and say IE 6 is allowed to suck because it's still beta.

 
 Ah... IE6 doesn't suck though.  Slight hole in your argument.


It's bluescreened my twice today.  That's twice IN ONE DAY more than 
Mozilla ever has


 
 
 It's beta, so is Mozilla.

 
 Yes, but Mozilla has been in beta for almost four years now, and still sucks,
 while IE6 is, hell, has it even been a year since 5.5, and does not suck.


IE 6 is not a complete re-write from scratch.  IE 6 is IE 4.0's code 
with some improvements and new features.  Had it been a complete 
re-write, I bet since MS doesn't do open source it would be were Mozilla 
was 3 1/2 years ago


 
 
 In general, Mozilla has crashed about 5x 
more than IE6 on me.

 
 Gatorade sprays out nose  Loking goood!!! - Chico
 
 BAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAA!!!
 
 
 However, IE leads the way in bringing my whole 
system down in the field of about 6 to 0.  Mozilla has never killed my 
OS.  IE 6 has.  IE 5.5 has.  IE 5.0 has.  I don't consider that 
acceptable for my web browser

 
 I don't consider that either a) truthful or b) acceptable for your computer
 system.  If that's not an off-the-cuff fabrication, you have some serious crap
 hardware or something my friend.  Like I said, I've used 'em all, and NOT ONCE
 has ANY IE killed my OS.


A) It can't be crap hardware.  It's a homebuilt, I know each and every 
piece in it.  And if it were crap hardware, that would show up in Unreal 
Tournament, Allegiance, Mozilla, everything.  Not just IE.  IE lost me 
when they put it into my OS.  Since it's tied into Windows, just opening 
an IE window runs the risk of me losing my whole OS to a crash. 
Netscape doesn't have this problem.  Mozilla doesn't either.  I wouldn't 
even mind if Windows just used IE as the default for things.  Like I 
open a folder and it automatically started an instance of IE with that 
folder displayed.  But it doesn't.  IE is ALWAYS RUNNING.  If I shut off 
every service and every process I can, and close every window and TSR, 
IE is still active.  There is still a chance that a burp in it will make 
my entire system go bye bye.

B) Ok.  I've driven my car many times.  I've never been killed in a car 
crash.  So I guess everyone killed in a car crash (even if it's not 
their fault) is doing something wrong.  Because I (ONE TEST CASE!) have 
never had a problem.
That's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard.  How do you use IE6?  Do you 
just open it up and let it sit there at a blank page?  Or do you open up 
3 to 10 windows and actually use that thing called the world wide web?