Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
Have you checked out the freenetproject.org It's a peer to peer version of the web. Every computer has (by default) a 200Mb cache. The more you browse, the closer the files get to your computer and the faster it gets. If a file is requested a lot, it becomes better distrubuted throughout the net. If it's never requested, it will eventually dissapear from everyones cache. It's still in beta (0.4 I believe) and it's pretty slow at first - at least it was here, but that's probably because I didn't open port . But I hear that after about 2 hours of browsing it really picks up. Everything is encrypted along the way so you cannot tell what is in your cache. There could be pr0n and there could be pictures of pokemon, you'll just never know.
Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
The other day, someone passed around a link to a set of about 15 images: a sequence of a barge being swept under an unopened drawbridge by heavy river current. If you've seen the pictures, you know: it's kinda interesting! And in no time, as is so often the case, the link was down, as thousands of people shared it and overwhelmed the ISP where it was hosted. An e-friend of mine saved the images and created a mirror on his own server. He told a few people about it. A few days later, he found himself in the same situation: his ISP had to cap him at 128k. His little link had been shared and in no time he was inadvertently killing his upstream connection. A T1 and the bandwidth for it is still very expensive (at least where I live), and it amazes me to see how easily one can clog it. Meanwhile the industry is trying to push broadband, the people want to share larger files, etc. Something's gotta give! The obvious solution is to work p2p into the mix, so that simply sharing an image doesn't mean inviting the entire world to max out your connection. There oughta be - and maybe there is, I don't know about this sort of thing - a hyperlink to search a p2p network. And then, there oughta be a partial p2p client, perhaps one that would only search and leech files and not share them, that could be invoked by such a link. Whaddya think? -- Civil chatter and community since 1990: The Cellar - cellar.org -= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits! -== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! ==-
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
Tony Shepps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002: There oughta be - and maybe there is, I don't know about this sort of thing - a hyperlink to search a p2p network. And then, there oughta be a partial p2p client, perhaps one that would only search and leech files and not share them, that could be invoked by such a link. Whaddya think? If there is a Vote of some type deciding if anyone wants to implement this, I vote *NO*. If I want to find something on a P2P network, I open my P2P client and look for it. Web browsers browse the web, not filesharing networks -- AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
DeMoN LaG wrote:
Tony Shepps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002:
There oughta be - and maybe there is, I don't know about this sort
of thing - a hyperlink to search a p2p network. And then, there
oughta be a partial p2p client, perhaps one that would only search
and leech files and not share them, that could be invoked by such a
link.
Whaddya think?
If there is a Vote of some type deciding if anyone wants to implement
this, I vote *NO*. If I want to find something on a P2P network, I open
my P2P client and look for it. Web browsers browse the web, not
filesharing networks
What about ProtoZilla? (See mozdev.org projects)
And umm... Mozilla is not only a browser, but a whole suite. And you can
do ftp:// as well in the browser, which is _not_ part of the web (WWW).
news:// also works. So why not gnutella://, edonkey:// and so on?
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Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
DeMoN LaG wrote: Tony Shepps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002: There oughta be - and maybe there is, I don't know about this sort of thing - a hyperlink to search a p2p network. And then, there oughta be a partial p2p client, perhaps one that would only search and leech files and not share them, that could be invoked by such a link. Whaddya think? If there is a Vote of some type deciding if anyone wants to implement this, I vote *NO*. If I want to find something on a P2P network, I open my P2P client and look for it. Web browsers browse the web, not filesharing networks OTOH, with more advanced P2P networks in the future it would be possible to define a filetype containing metadata and a hash which would open a P2P client (aka 'Start' - 'Search' - 'Search files' in Windows 2005) which'll find all files with the valid metadata and'll verify the hash on the found files eventually resulting in single result that can be downloaded from several locations (simultaniously :)) -yatsu
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
Sören Kuklau wrote: DeMoN LaG wrote: Tony Shepps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002: There oughta be - and maybe there is, I don't know about this sort of thing - a hyperlink to search a p2p network. And then, there oughta be a partial p2p client, perhaps one that would only search and leech files and not share them, that could be invoked by such a link. Whaddya think? If there is a Vote of some type deciding if anyone wants to implement this, I vote *NO*. If I want to find something on a P2P network, I open my P2P client and look for it. Web browsers browse the web, not filesharing networks What about ProtoZilla? (See mozdev.org projects) And umm... Mozilla is not only a browser, but a whole suite. And you can do ftp:// as well in the browser, which is _not_ part of the web (WWW). news:// also works. So why not gnutella://, edonkey:// and so on? It wouldn't be wise to put links into a website using such protocols to search for a file because the author of the webpage has very little control over which results are displayed. Having this implemented in the browser however would be quite like the highlight search option. Which'd make more sense. -yatsu
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
yatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in a58vc9$1cr4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a58vc9$1cr4$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002: OTOH, with more advanced P2P networks in the future it would be possible to define a filetype containing metadata and a hash which would open a P2P client (aka 'Start' - 'Search' - 'Search files' in Windows 2005) which'll find all files with the valid metadata and'll verify the hash on the found files eventually resulting in single result that can be downloaded from several locations (simultaniously :)) I wouldn't mind if someone could decide *on their site* that they wanted you to search a P2P network. Maybe like a link to: p2p://images?Girl_and_dog.jpg or something, and that would open your predefined P2P client and search it's images section for Girl_and_dog.jpg, but having Mozilla itself search P2P networks is asking for trouble. What happens when the RIAA wants to shut down Mozilla for helping copyright infringements? That's no good. -- AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
Tony Shepps wrote: There oughta be - and maybe there is, I don't know about this sort of thing - a hyperlink to search a p2p network. And then, there oughta be a partial p2p client, perhaps one that would only search and leech files and not share them, that could be invoked by such a link. Whaddya think? Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of p2p networks? One of the whole points of such networks is that every file downloaded is automatically shared and so the network is naturally self-load-balancing. The more popular a file is, the more times it is downloaded, and the more computers it is shared on...
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
DeMoN LaG wrote: yatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in a58vc9$1cr4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a58vc9$1cr4$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002: OTOH, with more advanced P2P networks in the future it would be possible to define a filetype containing metadata and a hash which would open a P2P client (aka 'Start' - 'Search' - 'Search files' in Windows 2005) which'll find all files with the valid metadata and'll verify the hash on the found files eventually resulting in single result that can be downloaded from several locations (simultaniously :)) I wouldn't mind if someone could decide *on their site* that they wanted you to search a P2P network. Hence the hash, inorder to assure the found content is that the author wanted it to be. Maybe like a link to: p2p://images?Girl_and_dog.jpg or something, and that would open your predefined P2P client and search it's images section for Girl_and_dog.jpg, but having Mozilla itself search P2P networks is asking for trouble. What happens when the RIAA wants to shut down Mozilla for helping copyright infringements? That's no good. Not what i was suggesting in this post, but.. By providing a search mechanism which utilizes an _external_ P2P client? -yatsu
Re: Hyperlink to Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella?
yatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in a592ac$1ukt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a592ac$1ukt$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Feb 2002: Not what i was suggesting in this post, but.. By providing a search mechanism which utilizes an _external_ P2P client? Preferably. Or a plugin. Even a Mozilla component not installed by default. But with so much heat from big companies over p2p, I would hate to have Mozilla get told to shut down because of copyright infringment -- AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m
