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ravi narayan wrote: Duke Ellington wrote: People with C.B.Es etc don't go around all the time with those initials attached to their names when write letters to people, so why do you attach C.E.T (a thing that is of far less worth than "C.B.E"s etc) when all that people want to see is your actual name or a nom de plume? not that any of this is even remotely germane to the list/newsgroup, but having seen this thread refuse to die, i have a question: what is so much more worthy about a "CBE" than a "CET"? seems like the latter (which seems to be some sort of certification?) is awarded based on some objective criteria (testing?) and the former is an arbitrary recognition by an outdated authority. --ravi ps: perhaps the "queen" uses some objective criteria also, but perhaps if you can adopt the "nom de plume" of "duke ellington" you can humour someone else adding some letters to his or her name? -- man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why he has not been defined as an affective or feeling animal. more often i have seen a cat reason than laugh or weep. perhaps it weeps or laughs inwardly - but then perhaps, also inwardly, the crab resolves equations of the 2nd degree. -- alasdair macintyre. THREAD IS DEAD! This "thread is Dead". Please! Lets get on to curing the ills of Mozilla / N6, Making it the best Mail News Client, and Web Browser in the world bar none. So we can beat the socks of MicroSoft. THREAD IS DEAD! -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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No - IMHO, it makes you look like a social-climbing poser prat! _Please_ can we take the personal abuse elsewhere? We don't care if Phillip calls himself Santa Claus as long as he keeps contributing as he has been. Gerv
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"Robert Ennis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among them. Okay, am I missing something? I thought that "Duke Ellington" was just showing his love of jazz. What does his pseudonym have to do with CET?
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Garth Wallace wrote: "Robert Ennis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among them. Okay, am I missing something? I thought that "Duke Ellington" was just showing his love of jazz. What does his pseudonym have to do with CET? Nothing. The thread which I thought using TID: at my last post indicated the Thread is Dead (or Deteriorating) had gone from the subject at hand to a discussion on the CET designation after my name. Some of the threads were tongue in cheek some was serious. Evidently to some My using the designation after my Name infuriates some? -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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...and I spoke to a PHD today who calls himself Dr. So you're right. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Dear Robert: Let's either get back to the real thread at hand or kill the thread. I know I am not a Duke (Ellington, Of Earl or otherwise). My postings about the subject of CET was to enlighten people and to dispute the implication that people that are CET's have intelligence of little better than a turnip. (Whether said or implied.) It's just a habit I've gotten into and is part of my signature line and or my email address. It nothing to get bent out of shape over. BTW: I have run into people that do use ME and EE after their names. Robert Ennis wrote: Dear Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth: Well now that you got that off your chest, how are you? And what do you know about "such guys like me"? Such guys like me? How do you know what such a guy like me is anyhow? How do you know who you're talking to? "Childish ranting"? Give me a break. I'm sick of you Newsgroup Police with authoritarian personalities (where does that come from??) - individuals who think it's their responsibility to scold people saying things they somehow find offensive to the NG. Please forgive me. Sir. I say this with the greatest respect, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth, since I would never accuse you of ranting childishly, even if what you said was insightful and intelligent, and who knows, someday it might be. And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among them. Do you follow me Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth? Cand. wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish ranting in several NGs is really annoying. And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that is what people want to be called. It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or another education than yours, ever thought of that? Sorry, could not resist, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish ranting in several NGs is really annoying. And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that is what people want to be called. It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or another education than yours, ever thought of that? Sorry, could not resist, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth
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My real name is Lord Lucan :-O -Original Message- From: Cand.wirtsch.ing.Sebastian.Spä[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Cand.wirtsch.ing.Sebastian.Spä[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 February 2001 15:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish ranting in several NGs is really annoying. And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that is what people want to be called. It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or another education than yours, ever thought of that? Sorry, could not resist, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Actually in the case of CET's you can't take the Journeyman level test, until you have 2 years experience in trade your taking the Test. The exam is two part. 75 on Basic Electronics (Theory) 75 Journeyman level Test (based on knowledge of the field to which you work). Some of the Journeyman test are: "Consumer Electronics" (Radio/Tv/Stereo/DVD/HDTV) "Computer" (Equivalent to the A+ exam for Computer Technicians) "Communications" (It and 25 question Rules exam is equivalent to 2ND Class FCC exam which allow work on Two - way Communications equipment) "Radar" (taking this test makes it eaier for Radar Technicians to get jobs in the Airline industry) While you may or may not be impressed with Titles. CET is not to be taken lightly. On the other hand When I worked as the sole Electronics Technician for a 25 - school, school system; I ran into many Phd's that although they had plenty of book knowledge; they had the common sense of a turnip. I did run into some though that didn't put up pretenses, didn't stick their noses in the air, and look down on the masses, and had plenty of Common sense. Most CET's after they pass the exam use the title after their name, it tradition. Robert Ennis wrote: I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? Duke Ellington wrote: In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Robert Ennis say these wise words: I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But a Duke is something else... grin seeya. The Duke -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Dear Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth: Well now that you got that off your chest, how are you? And what do you know about "such guys like me"? Such guys like me? How do you know what such a guy like me is anyhow? How do you know who you're talking to? "Childish ranting"? Give me a break. I'm sick of you Newsgroup Police with authoritarian personalities (where does that come from??) - individuals who think it's their responsibility to scold people saying things they somehow find offensive to the NG. Please forgive me. Sir. I say this with the greatest respect, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth, since I would never accuse you of ranting childishly, even if what you said was insightful and intelligent, and who knows, someday it might be. And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among them. Do you follow me Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth? Cand. wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish ranting in several NGs is really annoying. And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that is what people want to be called. It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or another education than yours, ever thought of that? Sorry, could not resist, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Spth
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Okay, okay. I'm sorry. You deserve the title. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Actually in the case of CET's you can't take the Journeyman level test, until you have 2 years experience in trade your taking the Test. The exam is two part. 75 on Basic Electronics (Theory) 75 Journeyman level Test (based on knowledge of the field to which you work). Some of the Journeyman test are: "Consumer Electronics" (Radio/Tv/Stereo/DVD/HDTV) "Computer" (Equivalent to the A+ exam for Computer Technicians) "Communications" (It and 25 question Rules exam is equivalent to 2ND Class FCC exam which allow work on Two - way Communications equipment) "Radar" (taking this test makes it eaier for Radar Technicians to get jobs in the Airline industry) While you may or may not be impressed with Titles. CET is not to be taken lightly. On the other hand When I worked as the sole Electronics Technician for a 25 - school, school system; I ran into many Phd's that although they had plenty of book knowledge; they had the common sense of a turnip. I did run into some though that didn't put up pretenses, didn't stick their noses in the air, and look down on the masses, and had plenty of Common sense. Most CET's after they pass the exam use the title after their name, it tradition. Robert Ennis wrote: I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? Duke Ellington wrote: In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Robert Ennis say these wise words: I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But a Duke is something else... grin seeya. The Duke
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I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But a Duke is something else... Duke Ellington wrote: In netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey the people heard Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. say these wise words: The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the end. If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying to impress anyone its just part of my name now. I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. But aren't titles that go at the front of one's name of much more worth to the one who holds the title? seeya. The Duke
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Hi I've got a broken nightly that does, wish I could turn it off. Every time that I open the mail program it opens the default POP3 server and checks for mail. I can't turn it off. Darrin wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. -- steve http://www.skeeter-s.com/svg SVG examples for Mozilla
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Listen. This is not a personal attack and stop policing this forum. A little humour might help some of you. Asa Dotzler wrote: Robert Ennis wrote: Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. --Asa
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Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive titles to start using them. With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this forum too bloody seriously. Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Robert Ennis wrote: Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. - Kat --Asa
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The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the end. If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying to impress anyone its just part of my name now. I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. Robert Ennis wrote: Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive titles to start using them. With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this forum too bloody seriously. Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Robert Ennis wrote: Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. - Kat --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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I respect the tile and the credibilty it signifies. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the end. If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying to impress anyone its just part of my name now. I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. Robert Ennis wrote: Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive titles to start using them. With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this forum too bloody seriously. Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Robert Ennis wrote: Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. - Kat --Asa
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Mozilla and Netscape6 are works in progress and currently shouldn't be recommend as your day to day news reader or Web browser There is more work to be done. My appologies if my Phrasing is wrong. Robert Ennis wrote: I'm not "flipping off" anybody. I'm trying to make a person's life easier, rather than complicate it further, which is your approach. If somebody gets satisfaction from one product and not another, simple common sense suggests that he use the one giving him what he needs. "Don't flip off"..right. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Robert Ennis wrote: So use Communicator... Darrin wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. Don't flip off someone because a feature doesn't work by saying then use Communicator. Mozilla/N6 is supposed to replace Communicator unfortunately although some webpages render better, Mail and News still doesn't hold a candle to Communicator. Until someone opens Communicator and use the email Client and sees how its "supposed" to work. no one here will get it. Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should have a Nobel Proze for science. another problem that Mozilla/N6 has is: Hiding of read messages (on Mozilla or N6) is "still" handled improperly. In communicator all read messages can be hidden if View Sort is set for "Threaded" and View messages "unread" are set. All read messages are hidden as soon as as you go to another folder or newsgroup and do not return until you change from unread to all. In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Chris Hill wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:58:11 -0500, "Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should have a Nobel Proze for science. If Communicator is the best mail program or newsreader you've ever used, you should really try more programs. Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried OE, Eudora, and one of the NewsWatcher programs for news (been a while so I can't remembert whether it was Ya- or MT- Newswatcher. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Okay In My Experience on Mac Platform. Could possibly affect PC Platform. Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries of problems. --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Certified Electronics Technician Robert Ennis wrote: Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? I mean, I'll bet a lot of us have titles we could use Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries of problems. --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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I'm not "flipping off" anybody. I'm trying to make a person's life easier, rather than complicate it further, which is your approach. If somebody gets satisfaction from one product and not another, simple common sense suggests that he use the one giving him what he needs. "Don't flip off"..right. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Robert Ennis wrote: So use Communicator... Darrin wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. Don't flip off someone because a feature doesn't work by saying then use Communicator. Mozilla/N6 is supposed to replace Communicator unfortunately although some webpages render better, Mail and News still doesn't hold a candle to Communicator. Until someone opens Communicator and use the email Client and sees how its "supposed" to work. no one here will get it. Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should have a Nobel Proze for science. another problem that Mozilla/N6 has is: Hiding of read messages (on Mozilla or N6) is "still" handled improperly. In communicator all read messages can be hidden if View Sort is set for "Threaded" and View messages "unread" are set. All read messages are hidden as soon as as you go to another folder or newsgroup and do not return until you change from unread to all. In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest)
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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries of problems. --Asa
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? I mean, I'll bet a lot of us have titles we could use Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries of problems. --Asa
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Robert Ennis wrote: Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. --Asa
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
All I can say so far is that it's a much better build. Let's see... Gervase Markham wrote: Given the evidence before my eyes at: ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.01/ I have no option but to declare Jerry Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] the winner of the Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake, with a guess of 2001-01-15, which is only off by a couple of weeks. Most people, Netscape entrants included, thought it would be far sooner than this, and only two people (barring Sebastian Spaeth's 2002-12-31 entry) thought it would be later... Congratulations to Jerry. He wins bragging rights. Let's just hope www.netscape.com is now giving people this build! Gerv
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Darrin wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. The mozilla groups are dedicated to the development of the Mozilla open source browser. That feature is working in current Mozilla builds, while Netscape 6 (even 6.01) is based on an extremely old Mozilla version. Comments based on Netscape 6 are generally quite inappropriate here unless you've reproduced the problem in a recent Mozilla build. For netscape support see http://www.ufaq.org for lots of good links. -Dan Veditz
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
So use Communicator... Darrin wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does.
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Boy, are you strict! Daniel Veditz wrote: Darrin wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. The mozilla groups are dedicated to the development of the Mozilla open source browser. That feature is working in current Mozilla builds, while Netscape 6 (even 6.01) is based on an extremely old Mozilla version. Comments based on Netscape 6 are generally quite inappropriate here unless you've reproduced the problem in a recent Mozilla build. For netscape support see http://www.ufaq.org for lots of good links. -Dan Veditz
