Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread Mark

RV wrote:

> My nephew and niece started using N6.1 final as soon as it got 
> installed. They switched to the new theme Toy Factory and they said 
> because of it they will drop using IE.


You encountered no issues using Toy Factory with NS 6.1 final? I 
believe, if I remember correctly that the themes page recommends 
*against* using Toy Factory with the 6.1 final release. If it works 
without any issues, I might give it a shot.


Mark


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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread Gregory Spath

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>RV wrote:
>
>> My nephew and niece started using N6.1 final as soon as it got 
>> installed. They switched to the new theme Toy Factory and they said 
>> because of it they will drop using IE.
>
>
>You encountered no issues using Toy Factory with NS 6.1 final? I 
>believe, if I remember correctly that the themes page recommends 
>*against* using Toy Factory with the 6.1 final release. If it works 
>without any issues, I might give it a shot.

Just for kicks I installed Toy Factory for use with Mozilla.  Works fine here
:)

Anybody know a good place for themes that work well with Mozilla? (0.9.3)

-- Greg


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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread Jay Garcia

Mark wrote:

> RV wrote:
> 
> 
>>My nephew and niece started using N6.1 final as soon as it got 
>>installed. They switched to the new theme Toy Factory and they said 
>>because of it they will drop using IE.
>>
> 
> 
> You encountered no issues using Toy Factory with NS 6.1 final? I 
> believe, if I remember correctly that the themes page recommends 
> *against* using Toy Factory with the 6.1 final release. If it works 
> without any issues, I might give it a shot.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 

Toy Factory is compatible and works well with 6.1

What you probably confused was the statement at the bottom that
essentially states that themes designed for 6.0/6.01 are NOT compatible
with 6.1 which can lead one to believe that Toy Factory was designed for
6.0/6.01 which it was NOT ...

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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread Mark

Jay Garcia wrote:

> What you probably confused was the statement at the bottom that
> essentially states that themes designed for 6.0/6.01 are NOT compatible
> with 6.1 which can lead one to believe that Toy Factory was designed for
> 6.0/6.01 which it was NOT ...

Gotcha. Thanks. It's really too bad that they (Netscape) didn't hold off 
just a *bit* longer, so that Moz .93 could've been it's base. The 
browser's most excellent, but the mail/news improvements in Mozilla .93 
aren't worth losing. Still, it's come a long way, and my hat's off to 
the Mozilla team.  Great work!

Mark
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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread RV

That is a misconception too. Netscape is not based strictly on Moz 0.92. 
As work progressed on Moz 0.93 many fixes that went to 0.93 were also 
incorporated into the 0.92 branch that became Netscape 6.1. The code for 
Netscape6.1 is going to be released soon as Moz 0.92.1 but they could 
easily name it 0.92.6 or so.

Mark wrote:

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>
>> What you probably confused was the statement at the bottom that
>> essentially states that themes designed for 6.0/6.01 are NOT compatible
>> with 6.1 which can lead one to believe that Toy Factory was designed for
>> 6.0/6.01 which it was NOT ...
>
>
> Gotcha. Thanks. It's really too bad that they (Netscape) didn't hold 
> off just a *bit* longer, so that Moz .93 could've been it's base. The 
> browser's most excellent, but the mail/news improvements in Mozilla 
> .93 aren't worth losing. Still, it's come a long way, and my hat's off 
> to the Mozilla team.  Great work!
>
> Mark






Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread Jay Garcia

RV wrote:

> That is a misconception too. Netscape is not based strictly on Moz 0.92. 
> As work progressed on Moz 0.93 many fixes that went to 0.93 were also 
> incorporated into the 0.92 branch that became Netscape 6.1. The code for 
> Netscape6.1 is going to be released soon as Moz 0.92.1 but they could 
> easily name it 0.92.6 or so.
> 
> Mark wrote:
> 
> 
>>Jay Garcia wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What you probably confused was the statement at the bottom that
>>>essentially states that themes designed for 6.0/6.01 are NOT compatible
>>>with 6.1 which can lead one to believe that Toy Factory was designed for
>>>6.0/6.01 which it was NOT ...
>>>
>>
>>Gotcha. Thanks. It's really too bad that they (Netscape) didn't hold 
>>off just a *bit* longer, so that Moz .93 could've been it's base. The 
>>browser's most excellent, but the mail/news improvements in Mozilla 
>>.93 aren't worth losing. Still, it's come a long way, and my hat's off 
>>to the Mozilla team.  Great work!
>>
>>Mark
>>
> 
> 

Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.
Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on the
subject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because of
being under Netscape NDA ... 

-- 
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Novell MCNE-5/CNI
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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread RV



Jay Garcia wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on thesubject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because ofbeing under Netscape NDA ... 
  
 ...  easy cope out    Humm, maybe you can affirm what was correct
without saying what is correct or not? How come you posted info here before
that was not covered by Non Disclosure Agreements?. I stand by what I said.
Bugzilla comments on individual bugs usually said when the bug fix was recommended
to be incorporated into the branch (0.92.x), trunk or both. It is obvbious
Netscape fixed bugs that were Netscape version specific since their version
needed to have hooks to their propietary features such as IM, Netcenter webmail,
AOL mail integration, spellcheck, etc
  
  


Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-08 Thread RV





Jay Garcia wrote:
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Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on thesubject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because ofbeing under Netscape NDA ... 

Oops, I am not sure if this statement referred to my previous statement.




Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-09 Thread Jay Garcia

RV wrote:

> Jay Garcia wrote:
> 
>>
>>Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.
>>Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on the
>>subject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because of
>>being under Netscape NDA ... 
>>
> ...  easy cope outHumm, maybe you can affirm what was correct
> without saying what is correct or not? How come you posted info here
> before that was not covered by Non Disclosure Agreements?. I stand by
> what I said. Bugzilla comments on individual bugs usually said when the
> bug fix was recommended to be incorporated into the branch (0.92.x),
> trunk or both. It is obvbious Netscape fixed bugs that were Netscape
> version specific since their version needed to have hooks to their
> propietary features such as IM, Netcenter webmail, AOL mail integration,
> spellcheck, etc

Ok, I'll affirm that what you correctly stated is correct and what wasn'
t isn't .. ;-)

I respect the NDA that I signed many years ago and is till very much in
effect. That which is posted in our 'private' group is considered under
NDA unless it is specifically allowed to be made public. Some of the
issues that both you and David mention were specifically addressed
recently in our private group and therefore are considered to be under
our NDA.

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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-09 Thread Simon Coffey

RV wrote:
> My nephew and niece started using N6.1 final as soon as it got 
> installed. They switched to the new theme Toy Factory and they said 
> because of it they will drop using IE. They found it "way cool". I think 
> well developed themes will be a big draw for many people (of course a 
> stable and well-working applications is more important but Netscape need 
> a as many differentiatoras possible in order to grab people's atention). 
> Themes is ONE of them. A pastel colors version of Toy Factory will be 
> great.
> 



In the UK at least there is a huge market in selling new ringtones for 
mobile phones - mainly to teenage kids.  And therefore a demand for the 
Nokia phones that can download the new ringtones.
Maybe Netscape should spin off a division dedicated to creating Themes - 
deals with Hollywood for all the latest movies, music companies for 
latest teenage bands... hang on, how about Time Warner?..








Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-09 Thread Jay Garcia

Simon Coffey wrote:

> RV wrote:
> 
>>My nephew and niece started using N6.1 final as soon as it got 
>>installed. They switched to the new theme Toy Factory and they said 
>>because of it they will drop using IE. They found it "way cool". I think 
>>well developed themes will be a big draw for many people (of course a 
>>stable and well-working applications is more important but Netscape need 
>>a as many differentiatoras possible in order to grab people's atention). 
>>Themes is ONE of them. A pastel colors version of Toy Factory will be 
>>great.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> In the UK at least there is a huge market in selling new ringtones for 
> mobile phones - mainly to teenage kids.  And therefore a demand for the 
> Nokia phones that can download the new ringtones.
> Maybe Netscape should spin off a division dedicated to creating Themes - 
> deals with Hollywood for all the latest movies, music companies for 
> latest teenage bands... hang on, how about Time Warner?..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Patience ... Toy Factory is JUST the beginning.

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Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-09 Thread Parish

RV wrote:
> A pastel colors version of Toy Factory will be great.

I agreee. Don't forget to post the URL when you've made one ;-)

> 
> 
> RV wrote:
> 
>> Netscape 6.1 Final  was released this morning. You can find it at 
>> ftp5.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.1.
>>
>>
> 






Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-09 Thread RV


Jay Garcia wrote:

>
>Ok, I'll affirm that what you correctly stated is correct and what wasn'
>t isn't .. ;-)
>
>I respect the NDA that I signed many years ago and is till very much in
>effect. That which is posted in our 'private' group is considered under
>NDA unless it is specifically allowed to be made public. Some of the
>issues that both you and David mention were specifically addressed
>recently in our private group and therefore are considered to be under
>our NDA.
>

I respect your position about NDA since I have been involved in similar 
agreements testing Lotus SmartSuite, Lotus Notes/Domino. But why stating 
that netscape 6.1 is more than  just Moz 0.92 is erroneous or a 
violation of NDA? It is public notice (moz newsgroups, bug fix reports 
from bugzilla) that they have taken bug fixes that went into the trunk 
towards 0.93 and that they also made additional bug fixes into the 
branch not scheduled for 0.93. That is all public knowledge and that is 
what i said. ;-)





Re: Toy Factory Theme

2001-08-09 Thread Blake Ross

Hi,

   Er, a neat little thing happened a few years ago, it was called 
releasing the source, and it was done by Netscape.  The branch that 
Netscape 6.1 rtm is based off of is hardly a secret.  In fact, 
everything RV stated was correct.  Netscape 6.1 is based off the 0.9.2 
branch, but many fixes that went onto the trunk (and thus 0.9.3) were 
put on the branch as well.  Don't bother responding to people if you're 
just going to drop hints about being under NDA.  This isn't a popularity 
contest.

Thanks,

  - Blake Ross
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jay Garcia wrote:
> RV wrote:
> 
> 
>>That is a misconception too. Netscape is not based strictly on Moz 0.92. 
>>As work progressed on Moz 0.93 many fixes that went to 0.93 were also 
>>incorporated into the 0.92 branch that became Netscape 6.1. The code for 
>>Netscape6.1 is going to be released soon as Moz 0.92.1 but they could 
>>easily name it 0.92.6 or so.
>>
>>Mark wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
What you probably confused was the statement at the bottom that
essentially states that themes designed for 6.0/6.01 are NOT compatible
with 6.1 which can lead one to believe that Toy Factory was designed for
6.0/6.01 which it was NOT ...


>>>Gotcha. Thanks. It's really too bad that they (Netscape) didn't hold 
>>>off just a *bit* longer, so that Moz .93 could've been it's base. The 
>>>browser's most excellent, but the mail/news improvements in Mozilla 
>>>.93 aren't worth losing. Still, it's come a long way, and my hat's off 
>>>to the Mozilla team.  Great work!
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.
> Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on the
> subject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because of
> being under Netscape NDA ... 
>