Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-06 Thread Ian Davey

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scott G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Thanks. I'll d/l it and try it on my home machine. What's this about
>'nightlies' I see here? Are there new builds released every day? If so, why
>aren't they called 'dailies'? 

A very good question, I think it's traditional, when they first started doing 
the daily builds they occured at night, now they seem to be built almost 
continually.

> And how bleeding edge must one be to install
>each new nightly as it comes out? After all, you know how they recognize
>pioneers.

They're very bleeding edge, letting you try out the code checked in during the 
day. The Milestone builds are tested before release, whereas the nightlies are 
not. So a rogue bug caused by checkins can sometimes wreck havoc with your 
bookmarks or profile (though they've never had any other harmful effect on my 
machines - Linux, NT4, Win95). Occasionally they won't run at all.

ian.

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Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-05 Thread fantasai

"Scott G." wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I'll d/l it and try it on my home machine. What's this about
> 'nightlies' I see here? Are there new builds released every day? If so, why
> aren't they called 'dailies'? And how bleeding edge must one be to install
> each new nightly as it comes out? After all, you know how they recognize
> pioneers.

The nightlies are for bug-testing (and aren't guaranteed to be stable).




Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-05 Thread Scott G.

Thanks. I'll d/l it and try it on my home machine. What's this about
'nightlies' I see here? Are there new builds released every day? If so, why
aren't they called 'dailies'? And how bleeding edge must one be to install
each new nightly as it comes out? After all, you know how they recognize
pioneers.

Scott

"Ian Davey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scott G."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Interesting. I was not aware that Mozilla/NS6 were complete rewrites.
> >Beginning with which version?
>
> The rewrite started about two years ago, when the idea of trying to build
on
> the NS4 codebase was dumped. Every version of Mozilla since about October
1998
> has been from the new codebase. It's probably over 90% new code.
>
> >Also, I have avoided d/l and install of NS6 because (a) our company's
> >corporate standard is IE5.01 and (b) of the many problems I have seen
with
> >it in the various newsletters I subscribe to. Any idea when these will be
> >addressed?
>
> A lot of them are addressed already in Mozilla, which recently released
> version 0.8. It'll hit 1.0 sometime in the second quarter of this year all
> going well. I use it as my main browser now and have very few problems.
> Netscape 6.5 should be based on version 1.0, so it might be worth waiting
> until then if you want to try it out (or try Mozilla 0.8 now, as it's a
big
> step forward from Netscape 6).
>
> ian.
>
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Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-05 Thread Ian Davey

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scott G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Interesting. I was not aware that Mozilla/NS6 were complete rewrites.
>Beginning with which version?

The rewrite started about two years ago, when the idea of trying to build on 
the NS4 codebase was dumped. Every version of Mozilla since about October 1998 
has been from the new codebase. It's probably over 90% new code. 

>Also, I have avoided d/l and install of NS6 because (a) our company's
>corporate standard is IE5.01 and (b) of the many problems I have seen with
>it in the various newsletters I subscribe to. Any idea when these will be
>addressed?

A lot of them are addressed already in Mozilla, which recently released 
version 0.8. It'll hit 1.0 sometime in the second quarter of this year all 
going well. I use it as my main browser now and have very few problems. 
Netscape 6.5 should be based on version 1.0, so it might be worth waiting 
until then if you want to try it out (or try Mozilla 0.8 now, as it's a big 
step forward from Netscape 6).

ian.


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Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-05 Thread Scott G.

Interesting. I was not aware that Mozilla/NS6 were complete rewrites.
Beginning with which version?

Also, I have avoided d/l and install of NS6 because (a) our company's
corporate standard is IE5.01 and (b) of the many problems I have seen with
it in the various newsletters I subscribe to. Any idea when these will be
addressed?

Scott

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> "Scott Glasgow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> > I haven't tried any other versions of Netscape, on the reasoning that if
> it
> > won't work in 4.75 it probably won't in other versions either.
>
> Since the Mozilla codebase (and therefore Netscape 6) is
> not based on previous versions of Netscape, but is in fact
> a near-total rewrite, that assumption is not true.
>
>






Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-04 Thread Garth Wallace

"Scott Glasgow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> I haven't tried any other versions of Netscape, on the reasoning that if
it
> won't work in 4.75 it probably won't in other versions either.

Since the Mozilla codebase (and therefore Netscape 6) is
not based on previous versions of Netscape, but is in fact
a near-total rewrite, that assumption is not true.






Re: Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-04 Thread barney

Scott Glasgow wrote:

> I have a table with 11 rows, five columns, a standard line item table for a
> quote request page. Rows 3 -11 display normally, but column 4 and 5 of the
> the first two rows are way too wide, with column five running off till it
> disappears (no right border) at the page border. I have examined the code
> carefully, and all rows are identical. I originally created the table by
> creating one row and then copy/pasting the others. The cells hold input
> values for the quote form. The table displays perfectly in IE, of course,
> but does this weird stuff in NS 4.75.
> 
> I've read around on the Web looking for ideas, and I've already tried
> setting the table properties explicitly in pixels (width, height,
> cellpadding, etc.) and still no joy (this, BTW, worked on another table with
> a similar problem on another page).
> 
> I haven't tried any other versions of Netscape, on the reasoning that if it
> won't work in 4.75 it probably won't in other versions either. Has anyone
> encountered something like this before? Is it available in any FAQs
> anywhere? I would appreciate any pointers you can give me to where I might
> find a solution to this. I you're interested in seeing the nature of the
> behavior, it's at http://www.extremesportswear.org/quotepage.htm.
> 
> TIA,
> Scott Glasgow

Your first error was using Frontpage, which is notorious for generating
bad HTML code. It's so bad it caused a fatal error in the W3C validator:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.extremesportswear.org%2Fquotepage.htm

Don't blame the browser for weird displays of bad code. I'm surprised
mozilla displayed it reasonably well.





Table first two rows display oddly

2001-03-03 Thread Scott Glasgow

I have a table with 11 rows, five columns, a standard line item table for a
quote request page. Rows 3 -11 display normally, but column 4 and 5 of the
the first two rows are way too wide, with column five running off till it
disappears (no right border) at the page border. I have examined the code
carefully, and all rows are identical. I originally created the table by
creating one row and then copy/pasting the others. The cells hold input
values for the quote form. The table displays perfectly in IE, of course,
but does this weird stuff in NS 4.75.

I've read around on the Web looking for ideas, and I've already tried
setting the table properties explicitly in pixels (width, height,
cellpadding, etc.) and still no joy (this, BTW, worked on another table with
a similar problem on another page).

I haven't tried any other versions of Netscape, on the reasoning that if it
won't work in 4.75 it probably won't in other versions either. Has anyone
encountered something like this before? Is it available in any FAQs
anywhere? I would appreciate any pointers you can give me to where I might
find a solution to this. I you're interested in seeing the nature of the
behavior, it's at http://www.extremesportswear.org/quotepage.htm.

TIA,
Scott Glasgow