Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Lame recognition

2001-12-20 Thread Steve Lhomme

Quoting Gabriel Bouvigne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 1 step forward for Lame, but 1 step backward for freedom:
 
 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8225543.html?tag=hot
 http://www.musichelponline.com/legal/

They don't give reasons why they use LAME. But I'm really curious to know.
I'm not sure if it's really legal to use LAME for commercial selling of the 
encoded files (because of the patents on MP3).
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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Lame recognition

2001-12-20 Thread Stanislav Omera

Gabriel Bouvigne wrote:

1 step forward for Lame, but 1 step backward for freedom:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8225543.html?tag=hot
http://www.musichelponline.com/legal/

It's first CD in USA with this ?(cactus data shield protection) I'm 
wondering. Here in europe (Czech Republick) it is normal. Many of new CD 
has this protection. We can't play this CD on DVD players,cd player in 
my car, etc...
It's ilegal because there is trademark Digital audio and this is not 
digital audio (it's multisession CD). Real audio CD must be in standart 
red book. But company like sony, bonton, emi, bmg don't folow standart.
Ou ou, world come to be crazy.
This protection can be skiped when man know how. But I want play my 
original, expensive CD  in every player , but i can't.

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Lame recognition

2001-12-20 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne

 They don't give reasons why they use LAME. But I'm really curious to know.
 I'm not sure if it's really legal to use LAME for commercial selling of
the
 encoded files (because of the patents on MP3).

They're probably using Lame because it's saving money compared to FhG.
For sure it's legal to use Lame commercially if they payed the licence fees.
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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Lame recognition

2001-12-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger

On 20 Dez, Steve Lhomme wrote:

 They don't give reasons why they use LAME. But I'm really curious to know.

Perhaps because they just provide encrypted mp3s?

 I'm not sure if it's really legal to use LAME for commercial selling of the 
 encoded files (because of the patents on MP3).

They can buy a license for the involved patents. This isn't something
which is restricted to a particular encoder. You have to license the
technologie, not the implmentation.

Bye,
Alexander.

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Lame recognition

2001-12-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger

On 20 Dez, Steve Lhomme wrote:

 They don't give reasons why they use LAME. But I'm really curious to know.
 I'm not sure if it's really legal to use LAME for commercial selling of the 
 encoded files (because of the patents on MP3).

More interesting:
---snip---
*  INTERNATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS
 * The Content files are encrypted and the Player contains decryption
   technology. You agree to abide by U.S. and other applicable export
   control laws and not to transfer any material subject to restrictions
   under such laws to a national destination or person prohibited under
   such laws.
---snip---

American people aren't allowed to export the CD to e.g. Iraq. If you
export it, you may get arrested because you violate the weapon export
restrictions (because of the blowfish encryption).
 ... Mars Attacks! comes to my mind  ;-)  ...

Bye,
Alexander.

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Lame recognition

2001-12-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger

On 20 Dez, Gabriel Bouvigne wrote:
 1 step forward for Lame, but 1 step backward for freedom:
 
 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8225543.html?tag=hot

---snip---
The digital files are contained in a single CDS file format, which is
not explained. But in the license agreement for the technology, the
company does indicate that it has used LAME (which originally, but no
longer, stood for Lame Ain't an Mp3 Encoder), an open-source MP3 encoder.
---snip---

May I ask how I have to expand the acronym 'LAME' now?

---snip---
Instructions that come with the CD indicate that the player can be used
on any Windows operating system. A CNET News.com test found it worked
well in a computer running Windows 2000, but that an older machine
running Windows 95 could not recognize the disc.
---snip---

Can someone confirm this?

 http://www.musichelponline.com/legal/

---snip---
The Player uses the Blowfish block cipher,
---snip---

Now someone has only to find the start of the encrypted parts, get the
Key out of the software and then (I assume they only encrypt the output
of LAME)...

Wy didn't they learn from DeCSS?

Bye,
Alexander.

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