Processing the Euro symbol in MQSeries messages

2003-03-12 Thread Kulbir S. Thind

Hi,

We're trying to enable our machines to be able to process the Euro symbol within MQSeries messages. We follow a hub and spoke topology here and are unable to upgrade all machine configurations to use the correct code page configurations. 

We have a project that will upgrade the hub and we decided to ensure the hub is able to support the Euro for any future applications connecting to it. We changed the queue manager CCSID from 850 to 858 (recommended NT code page for the Euro) and have now hit problems. We are sending messages from a HP-UX queue manager with a code page of 1208 to the new hub and finding the messages do not come across the channel. Channel conversion is set to YES and the error messages appearing in the HP-UX queue manager logs are as follows:

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03/12/03 06:25:56 
AMQ6047: Conversion not supported.

EXPLANATION:
MQSeries is unable to convert string data tagged in CCSID 1208 to data in CCSID
858.
ACTION:
Check the appropriate National Language Support publications to see if the
CCSIDs are supported by your system.
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Does this mean that we would need to configure all our application queue managers to use the correct code pages for this to work or is this a specific issue with just conversion between 1208 and 858 code pages?

Cheers,

Kulbir.

Re: 2059 trying to connect mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4

2003-03-12 Thread Kevin Ferguson
Just throwing in my 2 cents worth. You have ftp'd the client connection
definition file from z/OS tot he other platform haven't you? I use this job
//CLNTMQDV EXEC PGM=CSQUTIL,COND=(0,NE,TRYMQDV),PARM='QManager name'
//STEPLIB  DD  DSN=SYS1.SCSQLOAD,DISP=SHR
// DD  DSN=SYS1.SCSQANLE,DISP=SHR
// DD  DSN=SYS1.SCSQAUTH,DISP=SHR
//OUTCLNT  DD  DSN=CD9P07.MQDV.CLIENTS,DISP=(,CATLG),
// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(3,4),RLSE),
// RECFM=U,LRECL=2048,BLKSIZE=2048
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  *
COMMAND DDNAME(CMDCHL) MAKECLNT(OUTCLNT) CCSID(437)
//CMDCHLDD *
DISPLAY CHANNEL(*) ALL TYPE(CLNTCONN)


Kevin Ferguson





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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:10:00 -0400
Hi everyone:
There is two people asking about the client attach feature on the Z/OS, if
I
understand correctly this feature is used only when you try to connect from
z/os to a other mq series server. In my case, I'm connecting from windows
or
unix to the z/os. The mq server its on z/os. In this case, is the client
attach feature on the Z/OS required ???
TIA.

Javier S.






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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:54:26 +1300
Javier,
2059 is QMGR_NOT_AVAILABLE. Are you getting this on the client end?
I presume that you have the client attach feature on the Z/OS version of
MQ? On Z/OS, client attach is a seperate, chargable feature. I believe
that
it's included as part of the Qmgr on all the other platforms.
Richard.





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Hi Everyone:

We are trying to connect to a mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4 from different
clients, windows, unix, etc, but we are receiving a 2059 error from the
mainframe. With mq series server to server the communiaction its o.k., the
only problem is trying to connect client to server (at mq level).
The channel server its working and connected, any ideas 
TIA.

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Re: Client IP connections direct to an OS/390

2003-03-12 Thread Dave Corbett
Dennis.
Thanks for your thoughts on this.  I'm not sure that batching of messages
really matters, especially since we are TCP in and SNA out.  Our batch size
is set to 50 and the batch interval set 100.  We did some extensive tuning
with the VTAM settings to make sure it worked as well as possible (setting
RU sizes, pacing, and other NCP parameters).

It just seems that skipping a box in between the app server and mainframe
should increase performance by itself.  My real outstanding question is,
why do we get thousands of messages showing channels starting and going
inactive in the CHIN log?  We had an occasion last Sunday where we had
between 6 and 7 thousand messages in the space of an hour.  I don't
understand what it is that drives MQ to be bouncing these connections like
this.  We have also sent this question to IBM for a better understanding.

We'll discuss your thoughts on putting the QMGRs on the app servers, but we
were originally told (in 1998) that we needed the MQ servers to be on their
own boxes.

Thanks,
David Corbett
Work:  651-205-2714
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With the workload you describe, I think the 390 would be better optimised
and easier to manage with the NT concentrators. I mean sender channels can
batch dozens of messages together, whilst the client channels go one-at-a
time. You also minimze the overhead of channel pooling and avoid (at least
from the 390 perspective) avoid the headaches implicit in one end of the
channel not controlled by the qmgr. In my mind, the tougher question is
whether to forgo the NT concentrators and put qmgrs directily on the
webshere servers, which in effect are already acting as concentrators.  I'm
skeptical about the advantage gained by having 4 inound qmgrs rather than
11.


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 Since nobody has replied to this, I am assuming that we are the only ones
 making extensive use of client connections direct to an OS/390 platform.
 So, in the hopes that someone else besides us has some experience with
this
 architectural model, I am resending it to entice anyone with thoughts on
 this to respond.

 Thanks,
 David Corbett

 IBM MQSeries Certified Solutions Expert
 IBM MQSeries Certified Developer
 IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist


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 We originally had three NT MQ servers that would handle MQ connections
from
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 environment.  The 11 app servers are spread across three mainframe LPARS
in
 4x4x3 configuration.  The NT boxes served for the most part as a protocol
 converter from IP to 

Calculating Log Size for Persistence

2003-03-12 Thread Taylor, Neil



Hi

Looking at the 
Systems Management guide it states that to put a persistent message the log 
entry size will be:

750 bytes + message length .

Now the obvious 
question - is the MQMD included in either the overhead or message 
length?

Regards

Neil


Re: Client IP connections direct to an OS/390

2003-03-12 Thread Glen Shubert

Dave,

The messages could be from the Disconnect Interval on the channels. You may want to check those and possibly set them to zero.

Glen Shubert






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Dennis.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I'm not sure that batching of messages
really matters, especially since we are TCP in and SNA out. Our batch size
is set to 50 and the batch interval set 100. We did some extensive tuning
with the VTAM settings to make sure it worked as well as possible (setting
RU sizes, pacing, and other NCP parameters).

It just seems that skipping a box in between the app server and mainframe
should increase performance by itself. My real outstanding question is,
why do we get thousands of messages showing channels starting and going
inactive in the CHIN log? We had an occasion last Sunday where we had
between 6 and 7 thousand messages in the space of an hour. I don't
understand what it is that drives MQ to be bouncing these connections like
this. We have also sent this question to IBM for a better understanding.

We'll discuss your thoughts on putting the QMGRs on the app servers, but we
were originally told (in 1998) that we needed the MQ servers to be on their
own boxes.

Thanks,
David Corbett
Work: 651-205-2714
Pager: 651-610-3842


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With the workload you describe, I think the 390 would be better optimised
and easier to manage with the NT concentrators. I mean sender channels can
batch dozens of messages together, whilst the client channels go one-at-a
time. You also minimze the overhead of channel pooling and avoid (at least
from the 390 perspective) avoid the headaches implicit in one end of the
channel not controlled by the qmgr. In my mind, the tougher question is
whether to forgo the NT concentrators and put qmgrs directily on the
webshere servers, which in effect are already acting as concentrators. I'm
skeptical about the advantage gained by having 4 inound qmgrs rather than
11.


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 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:01 AM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Client IP connections direct to an OS/390

 Since nobody has replied to this, I am assuming that we are the only ones
 making extensive use of client connections direct to an OS/390 platform.
 So, in the hopes that someone else besides us has some experience with
this
 architectural model, I am resending it to entice anyone with thoughts on
 this to respond.

 Thanks,
 David Corbett

 IBM MQSeries Certified Solutions Expert
 IBM MQSeries Certified Developer
 IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist


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from
 11 websphere app servers and then had SNA channels defined to our OS/390
 environment. The 11 app servers are spread across three mainframe LPARS
in
 4x4x3 configuration. The NT boxes served for the most part as a protocol
 converter from IP to SNA. Since our OS/390 platform's tcp stack has
become
 more robust, we have been migrating towards direct client channel
 

Betreft: Re: Betreft: Re: MS Access

2003-03-12 Thread Semir el Fakih
Hi Jim,

Thanks for you information.
I have found the MQAX and it works fine. I will now build it is MS Access.
This make my life a lot better.







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If you look in the install folder for MQSeries (either client or server),
there will be another folder called Tools. In Tools, there's a folder
called MQAX which contains the ActiveX samples. We used mqaxtriv.xls as our
model. It's a simple spreadsheet program that puts a message on a queue
when you click a button. There's no Access samples, but if you get it to
work in Excel you will be able to get it to work in Access, too.




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Hi Jim,

Thanks for your response.

Do you have more information that can help me out start a little test?

I would like to know how I could connect to a queue within VBA. I wanted to
include the VB examples in VBA, but I don't know how and where.
I have searched the Internet, help files and so on. But without any succes
:-(

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advantage,
S el Fakih






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We use the ActiveX classes to combine Office and MQSeries. We mostly use it
within Excel, but we've got a couple MS Access apps, too. MQSeries comes
with some sample programs that we used as a basis for our development work.




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Hi all,

I have an question about MQSeries VS MS Access.
Is it possible to connect through VBA of MS Access to a MQSeries Queue.
I know that it is possible with Visual Basic, but I hope it will work also
with VBA.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advantage,
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Re: CHIN with millions of lines of output

2003-03-12 Thread Rick Tsujimoto
I had initially thought that a WTO exit might do what you want, but I'm not
entirely sure.  I've only written a user exit routine to trap on a message
and do other things, but I never deleted a message or altered routecodes.
I think you should post this question to the OS/390 listserver.




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The problem we are having is that on some of our OS/390 systems where the
MQ channel initiator and master address spaces are up and running for weeks
or months at a time we get enormous amounts of output. This makes searching
the job logs using SDSF a prolonged and resource intensive exercise. Has
anyone come up with a way to effectively segment the output?

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Re: Listener

2003-03-12 Thread Anderson, Lizette T. (RyTull)
Thanks everyone for responding to my questions on the listener.  So far, we
know the problem is coming from a Websphere application, however the user is
saying that no changes have been made to his programs.  Since this is not
the production envirionment and it is working, no plans are being made to
correct the problem.

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It is possible to start an inbound requestor channel with no listener
running.  I'm guessing you received those messages on a requestor and not a
receiver channel.  Do you have requestors defined?

-- T.Rob

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I was also able to receive the message.

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Lizette,

The sender does not use a listener.  Your listener can be down and you can
still send messages. Since you are a mainframer, like me, check how MQ uses
ports for sending by using the NETSTAT command.

Donna de P.

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Thanks for the info.  I am mostly a mainframer so excuse the question, but
if the port is being used( we discovered by a websphere application) how I
able to send and receive messages.  Is it possible, for everything to work
fine even though MQ and the Websphere application are both using the same
port?

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Liz,
Experience sez that some other application changed or another was installed
that is using that port. There is a command called netstat -a that will give
you a report on the processes that have OPEN your TCP/IP ports. rout the
output to a file and search the file for your port. It SHOULD show your
port and who owns it. if it sez MQ then stop the QMGR from startup at boot
time and disable MQ services and reboot the box and try the process again
and see if someone else has it.

I had the same problem in NYCTA. I was debugging the problem over the phone
with a techie that assumed I was totaly out of my head until I finally got
him to start a listner on a different port and reconfigure the channels. The
reply over the phone was WOW Will you look at that!!! An
installed/reconfigured piece of software over the weekend did it. Just to
let you know. 9 times outta 10, at least on UNIX it hoses the port with
relationship to the INETD listner so a reboot is necessary when two people
are punching the c.r.a.p outta each other for the same port!!
  Hope this is helpful
   bobbee






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Thanks for the information.  We bounced the Windows 2000 server and we are
still getting the message.  I am mostly a mainframe person so my question,
will sharing a port cause problems?
So far I am able to send messages.  We discovered that our Websphere server
is also using the ports.

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Stopping a QM often don't stop the listener.

So when restart the whole QM (and listener, ...) the strmqlsr fail
as the preceding listener is still alive.

In some architecture (OS/400), nobody cares, the old one is same as
the new listener.
In Aix boxes, the old listener was unable to talk with the
restarted QM.

I suspect in windows there is no side effect, but ... how know ?
So stopping  restarting the listener should be a safe mesure

HTH, Luc-Michel.

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  Some changes were made to some DLLs by our DBAs today.  The server was
  bounced and then the event viewer recorded the following message:
 
  The TCP/IP listener program could not bind to port number 1422.  The
failure
  could be due to another program using the same port number.
 
  The return code is 20 from this command issued by MQseries services:
 
  RUNMQLSR -mQMRT002D -tTCP -p 1422.
 
  I looked at the listener service and it is running.  Any ideas?
 
 
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Purchasing MQSeries

2003-03-12 Thread June Lawton
Our company is currently trying to make a decision between purchasing
MQSeries or WebMethods. Any information that any of you out there could
give me on slanting the vote towards MQ would be greatly appreciated.

Or, opinions on what you fell MQ is doing for you, etc,etc,. Thanks!




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Re: 2059 trying to connect mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4

2003-03-12 Thread Ruzi R
Javier,

Your sender channel specifies the port that the
receiving channel will be listening on. You have to
start the listener process on that port at the
receiving end in order to receive any messages.
Otherwise will not get any messages!

For example, on Windows NT (using TCP)you can use the
runmqlsr command to  start the listener like:

runmqlsr -t tcp [-m qmgr] [-p portnumber]

Example: runmqlsr -t tcp -m MYQMGR -p 1415

If you omit the port number it will default to 1414.
And you can end the listener with the endmqlsr
command.

On z/OS you can use the MQ panels to start/stop the
listener. Or ideally, you can automate this so that
when you restart the queue manager your listener (and
channels) will be started as well. To do this, you
should put the appropriate START LISTENER command  in
the CSQINPX dataset. (If you want to automate the
starting of a channel, you can put the appropriate
START CHINIT command in the CSQINP2 dataset).

Hope this helps.

Best regards,


Ruzi

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 Alan:
 Maybe you can help me, when you mention listener,
 what do you mean ?? We
 have defined a server connection, could you tell me
 with more detail how you
 turn off the listener and what do you mean 

 TIA.

 Javier S.




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 Is the listener running ? or is the listener port
 OK?
 
 I just did a test by turning off my listener for my
 one of my mq
 client-connected applications, and  got a 2059.  It
 also occurred when I
 deliberately used a wrong port as well
 
 Alan
 
 
 
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 We are trying to connect to a mq series 5.3 on z/os
 1.4 from different
 clients, windows, unix, etc, but we are receiving a
 2059 error from the
 mainframe. With mq series server to server the
 communiaction its o.k., the
 only problem is trying to connect client to server
 (at mq level).
 The channel server its working and connected, any
 ideas 
 
 TIA.
 
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Re: Purchasing MQSeries

2003-03-12 Thread Rick Tsujimoto
If I'm not mistaken, WebMethods is an EAI product that can use MQSeries as
an underlying message transport mechanism.  I don't think this is a
comparison of apples to apples.




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Re: Client IP connections direct to an OS/390

2003-03-12 Thread Dave Corbett
Glen,
This sounds good in theory, but client channels don't have options like
disconnect interval, heartbeat interval etc on the OS/390.  I don't even
think they have them on other platfoms either.  I think these are
controlled via global TCP setting like TCPKEEPALIVE.  Since we are using a
vendor package on the client side, we don't have a lot of control over the
options specified at channel connection time.

Thanks,
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The messages could be from the Disconnect Interval on the channels.  You
may want to check those and possibly set them to zero.

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Dennis.
Thanks for your thoughts on this.  I'm not sure that batching of messages
really matters, especially since we are TCP in and SNA out.  Our batch size
is set to 50 and the batch interval set 100.  We did some extensive tuning
with the VTAM settings to make sure it worked as well as possible (setting
RU sizes, pacing, and other NCP parameters).

It just seems that skipping a box in between the app server and mainframe
should increase performance by itself.  My real outstanding question is,
why do we get thousands of messages showing channels starting and going
inactive in the CHIN log?  We had an occasion last Sunday where we had
between 6 and 7 thousand messages in the space of an hour.  I don't
understand what it is that drives MQ to be bouncing these connections like
this.  We have also sent this question to IBM for a better understanding.

We'll discuss your thoughts on putting the QMGRs on the app servers, but we
were originally told (in 1998) that we needed the MQ servers to be on their
own boxes.

Thanks,
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Dave,
With the workload you describe, I think the 390 would be better optimised
and easier to manage with the NT concentrators. I mean sender channels can
batch dozens of messages together, whilst the client channels go one-at-a
time. You also minimze the overhead of channel pooling and avoid (at least
from the 390 perspective) avoid the headaches implicit in one end of the

Re: solaris userids longer than 8 characters

2003-03-12 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob



We had
this problem and had to alias an 8-charUserID to the same UID to make it
work.

Lines
from /etc/passwd:
9charUser:password:2410:110:Long User
ID:/home/users/9charUser:/bin/ksh ---
ACTUALID

9charUse:password:2410:110:Long User
ID:/home/users/9charUser:/bin/ksh --- What MQ
Checks

We found some references in the Solaris docs
that indicated other system dependencies on 8-char UserIDs. Best thing to
do is avoid them and convert long IDs to standard 8-char IDs.

-- T.Rob


  -Original Message-From: Fred Forester
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:00
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: solaris userids
  longer than 8 characters
  Hi all,
  the authentication fails on solaris for any user with a
  9 character userid. is there a way around it?I've tried coding the
  MQEnvironment class in the java client but still doesn't
work.
  Thanx in advance
  Fred
Forester


Re: WMQ V5.3 stability?

2003-03-12 Thread De Seve, David
Title: Message



What
OS does this Apply to?

  -Original Message-From: GIES, STEVE
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:28
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: WMQ V5.3
  stability?
  We
  got hit by this. We never got hit in dev either (and still haven't) but
  we've had three incidents in the past 6 weeks were a queue was damaged.
  Both of the queues involved (1 has been damaged twice) have a high number of
  abandoned reply messages on them that get cleaned out nightly. Not by
  CLEARQ, but by a custom job that removes messages over N hours old. The
  damage always occurred sometime after this nightly job. We just got the
  fix and are applying it to dev this weekend.
  
  If
  you have any queues that might be susceptible to this, then I would recommend
  getting the fix.
  
  -
  Steve
  
  P.S. Other than this problem WMQ V5.3 CSD01 on W2K servers has
  been very, very stable and trouble free for us.
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Darren Douch
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:09
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: WMQ V5.3
  stability?
  Has anyone else hit this problem? We're
  putting 5.3 onto production in a few weeks and haven't seen this on the
  various dev and test environments we've got it on. If there is something
  particular that causes the symptoms then that would be useful
  information.
  
  Thanks
  Darren.
  
- Original Message - 
From:
Kulbir
S. Thind 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:54
PM
Subject: Re: WMQ V5.3 stability?
Hi, We've just installed it recently and you need to ensure
you get the latest media. There was a big problem with the
distribution of this release and the numbering used. For example 5.3
went out in June 02 and Oct 02, both releases being different although both
being called 5.3. Make sure you get the latest media and then the
latest CSD (there may be one on the web site). In addition to this we found a bug where MQSeries objects
kept becoming damaged. IBM provided us with an e-fix, this fix is not
included in the latest CSD and must be applied. APAR IC35711 is the reference
IBM are using for this. Other than
the above we've had no problems. Cheers, Kulbir.


  
  

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Re: MQSeries Java classes for PCF

2003-03-12 Thread Stefan Sievert
Arun,
I suspect (meaning: I am not sure) that the MQRC_CMD_SERVER_NOT_AVAILABLE
reason code will only be returned if you use the MQ Adminsitration Interface
(available for C and VisualBasic applications) instead of building native
PCF commands. These interfaces probably encapsulate a 2033 from the command
server reply2queue and map it to the MQRC_CMD_SERVER_NOT_AVAILABLE you are
expecting.
Again, this is just my guess; maybe somebody can confirm!?
Stefan
From: EXT-Makhija, Arun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: MQSeries Java classes for PCF
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:52:34 -0800
Hi

I am using MQSeries Java classes for PCF Support Pack [MS0B] on MQSeries
v5.2 on HP-UX 11.0.
In my application, in try-catch-finally setup, where I catch MQException or
PCFException
I trap critical Reason Codes and handle them appropriately like notify
support people/generate alert etc as per the requirement
The critical errors like

QMGR shutting down | QMGR not available | CMD SERVER stopped

All other things work fine except when I stop CMD SERVER I expect a reason
code 2322=MQRC_CMD_SERVER_NOT_AVAILABLE
but instead I am getting 2033=MQRC_NO_MSG_AVAILABLE

Any Idea why this is happening

Any help will be appreciated

Regards

Arun Makhija
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Re: Processing the Euro symbol in MQSeries messages

2003-03-12 Thread Darren Douch



Kulbir

I think this is a specific issue with 1208, 858 and 
HP-UX. You are trying to do the conversion on the sender channel i.e. the 
HP-UX qmgr is trying to do the convert, but if you look at appendix Hin 
the APR you will see the following re support for MQ conversion to/from Unicode 
(codepages 1200, 13488, 17584 and 1208) notice that 858 is not among those 
listed. 

WebSphere MQ HP-UX support for Unicode
On MQSeries for HP-UX Version 5 or later, conversion on HP to, and from, the 
Unicode CCSIDs is supported for the following CCSIDs: 

  
  
813 
819 
874 
912 
915 
916 
  
920 
932 
938 
950 
954 
964 
  
970 
1051 
1089 
1200 
1208 
1381 
  
5050 
5488 
13488 
33722 


Regards
Darren

  
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  Thind 
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  PM
  Subject: Processing the Euro symbol in 
  MQSeries messages
  Hi, We're trying to enable our machines to be able to process the Euro 
  symbol within MQSeries messages. We follow a hub and spoke topology here 
  and are unable to upgrade all machine configurations to use the correct code 
  page configurations.  We have a 
  project that will upgrade the hub and we decided to ensure the hub is able to 
  support the Euro for any future applications connecting to it. We 
  changed the queue manager CCSID from 850 to 858 (recommended NT code page for 
  the Euro) and have now hit problems. We are sending messages from a 
  HP-UX queue manager with a code page of 1208 to the new hub and finding the 
  messages do not come across the channel. Channel conversion is set to 
  YES and the error messages appearing in the HP-UX queue manager logs are as 
  follows: * 03/12/03 06:25:56 AMQ6047: Conversion not supported. EXPLANATION: MQSeries is unable to 
  convert string data tagged in CCSID 1208 to data in CCSID 858. ACTION: 
  Check the appropriate National Language Support 
  publications to see if the CCSIDs are 
  supported by your system. * 
  Does this mean that we would need to configure 
  all our application queue managers to use the correct code pages for this to 
  work or is this a specific issue with just conversion between 1208 and 858 
  code pages? Cheers, 
  Kulbir.


Re: solaris userids longer than 8 characters

2003-03-12 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob



Actually, no. The ID that MQ checks is the truncated first 8 chars
of the UserID. When I had "9charUse" in the first field, it was not meant
symbolically. It is quite literallythe UserID "9charUser" with the
"r" chopped off. So if your problem UserID is something like 'programer',
aliasing it to 'programe' does the trick. If
youchangeone or more of the first significant 8 chars, you might as
well just put up a new ID.

--
T.Rob

  -Original Message-From: Fred Forester
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:23
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: solaris
  userids longer than 8 characters
  thanx a bunch for the nice trick. I don't like
  9char userids either but too late.
  
  I assume you meant
  
  
  9charUser:password:2410:110:Long User
  ID:/home/users/9charUser:/bin/ksh ---
  ACTUALID
  
  -- 8charUse:password:2410:110:Long User
  ID:/home/users/9charUser:/bin/ksh --- What MQ
  Checks
  
- Original Message - 
From:
Wyatt, T. Rob 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:05
PM
Subject: Re: solaris userids longer
than 8 characters

We
had this problem and had to alias an 8-charUserID to the same UID to
make it work.

Lines from /etc/passwd:
9charUser:password:2410:110:Long User
ID:/home/users/9charUser:/bin/ksh ---
ACTUALID

9charUse:password:2410:110:Long User
ID:/home/users/9charUser:/bin/ksh --- What MQ
Checks

We found some references in the Solaris
docs that indicated other system dependencies on 8-char UserIDs. Best
thing to do is avoid them and convert long IDs to standard 8-char
IDs.

--
T.Rob


  -Original Message-From: Fred Forester
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:00
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: solaris
  userids longer than 8 characters
  Hi all,
  the authentication fails on solaris for any user
  with a 9 character userid. is there a way around it?I've tried coding
  the MQEnvironment class in the java client but still doesn't
  work.
  Thanx in advance
  Fred
  Forester


Re: 2059 trying to connect mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4 and new question ??

2003-03-12 Thread javier sotela
Thanks for all the responses, its look like we need the CAF for z/os. Does
anybody know if this feature was for free in releases 2.x, and know its not
free or it is still for free in mq 5.x. If so, where i can get it, is there
any place on internet to download or something like that.
TIA

Javier S.






From: Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2059 trying to connect mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:50:11 -0500
Hi,

Do you the Client Attachment Feature (CAF) installed on z/OS?  It is
separate
product from WMQ.
To find out if you have CAF installed on z/OS, look at CHIN
started-task
(on z/OS under SDSF, Display Active) for the following:
  +CSQX099I  CSQXGIP Client attachment feature available
where  is the z/OS queue manager name.

later
Roger...
Quoting javier sotela [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Everyone:

 We are trying to connect to a mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4 from different
 clients, windows, unix, etc, but we are receiving a 2059 error from the
 mainframe. With mq series server to server the communiaction its o.k.,
the
 only problem is trying to connect client to server (at mq level).
 The channel server its working and connected, any ideas 

 TIA.

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Re: Client IP connections direct to an OS/390

2003-03-12 Thread Tim Armstrong
Hi Dave,

If you are referring to messages like the following then you are seeing an
application connecting to and then disconnecting from your queue manager as
a client.

CSQX500I MQD7 CSQXRESP Channel TEST.NOEXIT started
CSQX501I MQD7 CSQXRESP Channel TEST.NOEXIT is no longer active

Regards
Tim A



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Glen,
This sounds good in theory, but client channels don't have options like
disconnect interval, heartbeat interval etc on the OS/390.  I don't even
think they have them on other platfoms either.  I think these are
controlled via global TCP setting like TCPKEEPALIVE.  Since we are using a
vendor package on the client side, we don't have a lot of control over the
options specified at channel connection time.

Thanks,
David Corbett
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The messages could be from the Disconnect Interval on the channels.  You
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Glen Shubert


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Dennis.
Thanks for your thoughts on this.  I'm not sure that batching of messages
really matters, especially since we are TCP in and SNA out.  Our batch size
is set to 50 and the batch interval set 100.  We did some extensive tuning
with the VTAM settings to make sure it worked as well as possible (setting
RU sizes, pacing, and other NCP parameters).

It just seems that skipping a box in between the app server and mainframe
should increase performance by itself.  My real outstanding question is,
why do we get thousands of messages showing channels starting and going
inactive in the CHIN log?  We had an occasion last Sunday where we had
between 6 and 7 thousand messages in the space of an hour.  I don't
understand what it is that drives MQ to be bouncing these connections like
this.  We have also sent this question to IBM for a better understanding.

We'll discuss your thoughts on putting the QMGRs on the app servers, but we
were originally told (in 1998) that we needed the MQ servers to be on their
own boxes.

Thanks,
David Corbett
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Re: 2059 trying to connect mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4 and new question ??

2003-03-12 Thread Randy J Clark
I DO NOT THINK IT WAS EVER FREE AND ITS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU
PROBABLY NEED TO TALK TO YOUR IBM SALES REP.




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Thanks for all the responses, its look like we need the CAF for z/os. Does
anybody know if this feature was for free in releases 2.x, and know its not
free or it is still for free in mq 5.x. If so, where i can get it, is there
any place on internet to download or something like that.

TIA

Javier S.






From: Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2059 trying to connect mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:50:11 -0500

Hi,

Do you the Client Attachment Feature (CAF) installed on z/OS?  It is
separate
product from WMQ.

To find out if you have CAF installed on z/OS, look at CHIN
started-task
(on z/OS under SDSF, Display Active) for the following:
   +CSQX099I  CSQXGIP Client attachment feature available

where  is the z/OS queue manager name.

later
Roger...

Quoting javier sotela [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi Everyone:
 
  We are trying to connect to a mq series 5.3 on z/os 1.4 from different
  clients, windows, unix, etc, but we are receiving a 2059 error from the
  mainframe. With mq series server to server the communiaction its o.k.,
the
  only problem is trying to connect client to server (at mq level).
  The channel server its working and connected, any ideas 
 
  TIA.
 
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Increase size of error logs

2003-03-12 Thread Aatush Desai(PIPEX)



Hi...MQ error logs 
(amqerr01.log..etc) are cut when they go over 256KB. MQ also keeps 3 
logs.

Does anyone know either how to increase the size of 
the logs or the number of logs. Platform if NT, v5.2 and 
above.Thanks Aatush


Re: 2195 Error

2003-03-12 Thread jesse h. goode jr.
Paul... As a followup to an earlier posting, I experienced the same problem
this weekend that Jeff made mention of in the original posting below back in
Mid January.  Also an AIX 4.3.3 but running wmq 5.3 base level code.

The AMQERR01.LOG file had many mq AMQ6209 and AMQ6183 error messages, but as
you stated in your reply,... MQ and the Qmgr in question appeared to be
fine.  Only problem was that clients attempting to connect to the Qmgr over
the weekend were getting 2059's.  The FDC file that was created was huge. 29
meg .  Was filled with references to xecE_W_UNEXPECTED_ASYNC_SIGNAL. In
looking at the individual entries, all the return values in the FDC dump
state OK.  Nothing giving me a clue as to what's the issue.  MQ was taken
down for a file system back up, and when restarted... all was fine. Clients
could connect.

I've emailed Jeff, since I knew he had an open PMR at the time to see
what the resolution was with MQ support, before I attempt to open my own
call.  Anyone experience similar issues with MQ and AIX 4.3.3 ?

jesse goode jr
valero energy corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- snippet from Jeff's original posting ---

What I am finding in the error logs and FDC files are AMQ6209: An
unexpected asynchronous signal (15) has been received and ignored.
Also receiving AMQ6183: An internal MQSeries error has occurred.

The FDC file also contained Major Errorcode
xecE_W_UNEXPECTED_ASYNC_SIGNAL




- Original Message -
From: Paul Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: 2195 Error


Hello Fellow MQer's,

I have this weird problem with MQ V5.2, AIX  4.3.3. Our AIX Admins
rebooted the machine. After the reboot I  started MQ and the Client Server
and connected through MQ Explorer on  WIn2K. An application team that
uses this particular server informed me  they have been getting 2195 errors
and an occasional 2059 error. I  verified that they were pointing to the
correct queue manager and server IP and  I am at loss at what could be
causing this. The application worked fine  prior to this reboot. There
are no error messages in the log.

Has anybody seen anything like this?

My thought is MQ is fine. I can do an amqsput  and amqsget on the queue
the application tries to access, I can navigate around  the queue manager
through MQ Explorer and through telnet. I'm thinking  something wasn't
loaded right in the reboot of the server, but I'm not  sure. Of course
this problem occurred late in the afternoon, so I was not  able to find
out, yet, how the machine was rebooted.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff

Jeff,

If you're getting 2195 errors you should see FDC files written explaining
the problem.

Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley

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using UDP protocol with MQSeries on windows platforms

2003-03-12 Thread MQTeam Reply to questions account



Hi there!
Any body have any idea ifthere is any 
option using UDP protocolbetweenMQClient-MQServer or between 2 MQ servers on windows 
platforms ?
Regards,
Matan Philipson