Re: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Emile Kearns
I played with this a little bit and discovered that only the primary logs
are defined at QMGR creation and then it maintains that amount. I am yet to
primary and secondary logs defined.




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Sent: 02 October 2003 01:36 PM
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Subject: Re: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

Just a note from prior postings.

Someone had said once, and I never seen this proven (and personally I don't
believe it from what I personally know), BUT...the statement at that time
form someone I do not remember is that the Prim and Sec log parameters
effect LINEAR Logging. It may be a red herring but look at your parameter
definations and the number of LOG files that are actually created. I would
be interested in the number. (That comment always bugged me!!!)


  bobbee

PS given the disclaimers in the above message. I think I just set myself up.
Hold on let me bend over to receive the kick (hahaha)


>From: "Fleck, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
>Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:47:39 +0200
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>Hi Matthew,
>
>this was our first error. The transaction stops after 10.000 messages. I
>increased the parameter from 10.000 to 300.000. After this it stops after
>about 15.000 messages with AMQ7469.
>
>Best regard,
>Michael Fleck
>
>-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
>Von: Gurney, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2003 11:37
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>Have you looked at the queue manager attribute Max Uncommitted Msgs?
>
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>From: Fleck, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 02 October 2003 08:27
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
>
>
>Hi list members,
>
>I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series.
>We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running
>transaction, which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without commits.
>After 15.000 messages we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to
>release log space ". I checked our parameters. We have defined linear
>logging. There's enough space on the volume to keep hundreds of additional
>log files, but the transaction is stopped and rolled back. Are there any
>other parameters involved?
>
>Best regard
>Michael Fleck
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Re: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints

2003-10-02 Thread Randy J Clark
thanks for the perfect even I can understand replies and speedy too!



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Randy,

Depends on NPMSPEED parameter, for those versions and platforms that
support
it.  NPMSPEED(FAST) may lose messages.  From the manual:

If a channel terminates while fast, nonpersistent messages are in transit,
the messages may be lost and it is up to the application to arrange for
their recovery if required.

If the receiving channel cannot put the message to its destination queue
then it is placed on the dead letter queue, if one has been defined. If
not,
the message is discarded.


See:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzae09/csqzae090o.htm#HDRFASTSE

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and:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzae09/csqzae091m.htm#HDRATTNPM

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-- T.Rob

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Subject: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints


If a message is non-persistent and MCA's have a problem sending/receiving
the messages and the transmission of the batch was unsuccessful is the
batch still on the senders xmit queue or is that batch lost.

Or am I confusing to different things syncpoint and persistence

and the MCA's use their own syncpoint to handle transmission and if the
syncpoint is unsuccessful the messages will remain on the transmission
queue

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Re: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints

2003-10-02 Thread Christopher Fryett
Yep, forgot about the NPMSPEED.  Basically if you do not want to lose your
messages make them persistent, other wise, if you can afford to lose them
use non-persistent.

Chris



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Randy,

Depends on NPMSPEED parameter, for those versions and platforms that
support
it.  NPMSPEED(FAST) may lose messages.  From the manual:

If a channel terminates while fast, nonpersistent messages are in transit,
the messages may be lost and it is up to the application to arrange for
their recovery if required.

If the receiving channel cannot put the message to its destination queue
then it is placed on the dead letter queue, if one has been defined. If
not,
the message is discarded.


See:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzae09/csqzae090o.htm#HDRFASTSE

C
and:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzae09/csqzae091m.htm#HDRATTNPM

S

-- T.Rob

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Subject: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints


If a message is non-persistent and MCA's have a problem sending/receiving
the messages and the transmission of the batch was unsuccessful is the
batch still on the senders xmit queue or is that batch lost.

Or am I confusing to different things syncpoint and persistence

and the MCA's use their own syncpoint to handle transmission and if the
syncpoint is unsuccessful the messages will remain on the transmission
queue

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Re: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints

2003-10-02 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
Randy,

Depends on NPMSPEED parameter, for those versions and platforms that support
it.  NPMSPEED(FAST) may lose messages.  From the manual:

If a channel terminates while fast, nonpersistent messages are in transit,
the messages may be lost and it is up to the application to arrange for
their recovery if required.

If the receiving channel cannot put the message to its destination queue
then it is placed on the dead letter queue, if one has been defined. If not,
the message is discarded.


See:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzae09/csqzae090o.htm#HDRFASTSE
C
and:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzae09/csqzae091m.htm#HDRATTNPM
S

-- T.Rob

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints


If a message is non-persistent and MCA's have a problem sending/receiving
the messages and the transmission of the batch was unsuccessful is the
batch still on the senders xmit queue or is that batch lost.

Or am I confusing to different things syncpoint and persistence

and the MCA's use their own syncpoint to handle transmission and if the
syncpoint is unsuccessful the messages will remain on the transmission
queue

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Re: Persistence/UOW/syncpoints

2003-10-02 Thread Christopher Fryett
If the message does not successfully get to the target queue via the MCA it
should rollback to the sender's XMITQ, and more than likely depending on
the type of error inhibit the queue's GET.  If the target queue is not
there it would put it to the DEADQ.

So, all-in-all the batch should not be lost even with non-persistent
messages.  It should go somewhere unless the DEADQ is not defined and I am
sure some other situations which others will contribute that I can not
think of right now.

Chris



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If a message is non-persistent and MCA's have a problem sending/receiving
the messages and the transmission of the batch was unsuccessful is the
batch still on the senders xmit queue or is that batch lost.

Or am I confusing to different things syncpoint and persistence

and the MCA's use their own syncpoint to handle transmission and if the
syncpoint is unsuccessful the messages will remain on the transmission
queue

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Persistence/UOW/syncpoints

2003-10-02 Thread Randy J Clark
If a message is non-persistent and MCA's have a problem sending/receiving
the messages and the transmission of the batch was unsuccessful is the
batch still on the senders xmit queue or is that batch lost.

Or am I confusing to different things syncpoint and persistence

and the MCA's use their own syncpoint to handle transmission and if the
syncpoint is unsuccessful the messages will remain on the transmission
queue

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Unit Test WMQI message flows

2003-10-02 Thread Jas Singh
One of the projects that I'm currently working on is using IBM Websphere MQ
Integrator (WMQI) for the vast majority of the functionality,
with some Java components sitting around the outside. Functionality in WMQI is built 
by assembling message flows - collections of nodes
that provide small reusable pieces of functionality.
At runtime, messages (e.g. XML) are sent into WMQI via message queues and the 
appropriate flow(s) then operate on that message.

Has anybody ever tried to unit test WMQI message flows? Are there any open 
source/commercial frameworks already available?

Thanks
-Jas

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Re: which directory is queue manager located in

2003-10-02 Thread Roger Lacroix
The world is your oyster.  You can find all WMQ manuals at:
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/integration/mqfamily/library/manualsa/

Your answer is "/var/mqm/qmgrs/". It can be found in "WebSphere MQ for
Solaris V5.3 Quick Beginnings" (Click on platform specific books from the above
link to find the manual).

later
Roger...

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> Hi All,
>
> When creating a queue manager, where does it get created on the file
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which directory is queue manager located in

2003-10-02 Thread Prithwiraj Basu
Hi All,

When creating a queue manager, where does it get created on the file
system?  I am talking about MQSeries Version 5.2 for Sun Solaris.

Thanks.

Prits

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The difference of starting configuration manager and running configuration

2003-10-02 Thread lisa preos
In the IBM's installation guide for MQSI (NT).  In
page 21 there is the summary of authorization table.
There on row 4 and row 6.  It differentiate starting
and running configuration manage authorizations.  But
I don't quite understand what is the scope of staring
a configuration manager from running a configuration
manager.  Can anyone help me?

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2003-10-02 Thread Vladimir Veytsel
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Re: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Robert Broderick
TNX


From: Marty Frasier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:05:41 -0400
Mr bee-oh double-bee double-ee,

You are to be commended for not believing everything you read but in this
case
I think it's true ;-)
The log parameters do pertain to linear logs, most noticeably for large or
long-running transactions.  i.e. a transaction that exceeds space available
in LogPrimaryFiles+LogSecondaryFiles log files will be rolled back with a
2003 reason code (if i remember correctly).
Some 'fixes' are 1) increasing # logs 2) increase log size and/or 3) keep
transactions to a reasonable size.
HTH,
Marty
On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:35 am, you wrote:
> Just a note from prior postings.
>
> Someone had said once, and I never seen this proven (and personally I
don't
> believe it from what I personally know), BUT...the statement at that
time
> form someone I do not remember is that the Prim and Sec log parameters
> effect LINEAR Logging. It may be a red herring but look at your
parameter
> definations and the number of LOG files that are actually created. I
would
> be interested in the number. (That comment always bugged me!!!)
>
>
>   bobbee
>
> PS given the disclaimers in the above message. I think I just set myself
> up. Hold on let me bend over to receive the kick (hahaha)
>
>
> From: "Fleck, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
> >Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:47:39 +0200
> >
> >Hi Matthew,
> >
> >this was our first error. The transaction stops after 10.000 messages.
I
> >increased the parameter from 10.000 to 300.000. After this it stops
after
> >about 15.000 messages with AMQ7469.
> >
> >Best regard,
> >Michael Fleck
> >
> >-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
> >Von: Gurney, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2003 11:37
> >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Betreff: -Re: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
> >
> >
> >Have you looked at the queue manager attribute Max Uncommitted Msgs?
> >
> >-Original Message-
>
> From: Fleck, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >Sent: 02 October 2003 08:27
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
> >
> >
> >Hi list members,
> >
> >I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series.
> >We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running
> >transaction, which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without
> > commits. After 15.000 messages we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions
> > rolled back to release log space ". I checked our parameters. We have
> > defined linear logging. There's enough space on the volume to keep
> > hundreds of additional log files, but the transaction is stopped and
> > rolled back. Are there any other parameters involved?
> >
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> >Michael Fleck
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Re: A program the uses MQSeries Client and Server libraries

2003-10-02 Thread Robert Broderick
Sorry, Thanks and nope!!

   bobbee


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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:14:07 +0100
bobbee,

Like I said in my note I don't really want to get into an XA debate.  XA is
not *that* different from the single transactional case. If you lose your
connection you will generally be backed out on the server. XA is two phase
though and if you lose your connection after the 'prepare' phase then the
server (ie MQ) can't arbitrarily decide to back it out. The coordinator
must resolve the transaction the next time the server comes online.
I don't understand your 'is there something I am missing' question. Do you
have a specific question in mind ?
Cheers,
P.
Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley


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Paul,
I would assume that if I am running, in server mode, and have a resource
coordinator, CICS, RRDS, etc and the connection is broken the coordinated
resources, MQ, DB2, VSAM, are backed-out/ comitted correctly??
Is there something I am missing. I / we do some progmatical tricks (?) when
it comes to no-coordinated processing. That is a given. BUT.?
bobbee

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>T.Rob,
>
>This is good advice and I agree whole heartedly that the application
>programmer must  deal with 2009 reason codes correctly and perform
message
>operations in syncpoint if you need to ensure 100% reliability. However,
I
>do not agree that this is a client thing. Exactly the same decisions must
>be taken in the server application. There is no difference between the
>transactional programming model on the client and on the server. (except
>perhaps XA transactions and let's not start that debate). The only
>difference in the client is that the windows and opportunities for
getting
>a 2009 are somewhat larger because you have a TCP socket in the way.
>
>Cheers,
>P.
>
>Paul G Clarke
>WebSphere MQ Development
>IBM Hursley
>
>
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Re: mqm group

2003-10-02 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
No, I was extrapolating from my experience with AppWatch.  The Apache server
that runs AppWatch is on port 80 and Navin was talking about Web Logic.
Since the web application servers generally have a web server component on
port 80 for the UI, it occurred to me this might be the reason his sysadmin
insisted on running it as root.

I always gripe about running channels as mqm but the thought of running a
web application server or httpd daemon as root gives me a total nightmare!

Oddly enough, we have a web server on port 1414 but that's another story.
:-)

-- T.Rob

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I thought you said your MQ server binded to port 80?



   
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T. Rob,

Why bind to a port below 1024?




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Navin,

When I was installing AppWatch on our Solaris server I discovered that I
couldn't start the web server as mqm.  Seems you need root privileges to
bind to any port below 1024.  Our sysadmin created a Power Broker profile
that allows me to start the server as mqm *and* bind to port 80.  We happen
to have Power Broker but this could have been accomplished using any of
several tools, including those that are built in to the OS.

If your sysadmin needs convincing, you could write a script that puts root
in the mqm group.  Don't actually run it, just show it to him and explain
that, with Web Logic running as root, you could execute this script (or any
other) with Web Logic's root privileges and gain complete control of the
server.  Then if he's still not convinced, run the script under Web Logic.
within a day or two, you'll have the server running under it's own group.

--- T.Rob
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  Hi Hubert ,

  Thanks for the response.
  Yes the logical thing to do is to create a weblogic user to start and
  stop weblogic and this user could be setmqaut , thus can talk to
  queue manager. But our system admin was insisting to give weblogic
  start stop rights to only root, and root is not part of mqm .
  We are in the process of convincing the sys admin to implement the
  setup you suggested.
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  why do you run Weblogic as root? I would create a new user and group
  (lets
  say 'weblogic' for both) an run Weblogic using this ID. Set then the
  MQ
  permissions using setmqaut for the group 'weblogic'.

  Remember, setting permissions using setmqaut for a user on unix sets
  them
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JMS/Connection Pooling

2003-10-02 Thread Art Schanz

Greetings,

  My developers are beginning to look into the use of connection pooling from the JMS environment w/ WAS V5.  We use Client access (via SVRCONN channels) and setup Connection Factories.

  We are having problems getting the connection pooling to work correctly.  Because of this, I have a few questions:

1.  In the SimpleConnectionManager construct, does the setHighThreshold parm determine the number of SVRCONN channel connections that will be created?
2.  Should I expect to see this number of SVRCONNs created 'all at once', and then be managed as a pool of connections from that point forward?
3.  How would I be able to create a pool of 100 connections that could be reused by multiple 'users' from a WAS V5 environment?

  Thanks for any direction you can give.

Cheers,
  Art

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Re: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Marty Frasier
Mr bee-oh double-bee double-ee,

You are to be commended for not believing everything you read but in this case 
I think it's true ;-)  

The log parameters do pertain to linear logs, most noticeably for large or 
long-running transactions.  i.e. a transaction that exceeds space available 
in LogPrimaryFiles+LogSecondaryFiles log files will be rolled back with a 
2003 reason code (if i remember correctly).

Some 'fixes' are 1) increasing # logs 2) increase log size and/or 3) keep  
transactions to a reasonable size.

HTH,
Marty

On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:35 am, you wrote:
> Just a note from prior postings.
>
> Someone had said once, and I never seen this proven (and personally I don't
> believe it from what I personally know), BUT...the statement at that time
> form someone I do not remember is that the Prim and Sec log parameters
> effect LINEAR Logging. It may be a red herring but look at your parameter
> definations and the number of LOG files that are actually created. I would
> be interested in the number. (That comment always bugged me!!!)
>
>
>   bobbee
>
> PS given the disclaimers in the above message. I think I just set myself
> up. Hold on let me bend over to receive the kick (hahaha)
>
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> >Hi Matthew,
> >
> >this was our first error. The transaction stops after 10.000 messages. I
> >increased the parameter from 10.000 to 300.000. After this it stops after
> >about 15.000 messages with AMQ7469.
> >
> >Best regard,
> >Michael Fleck
> >
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> >Hi list members,
> >
> >I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series.
> >We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running
> >transaction, which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without
> > commits. After 15.000 messages we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions
> > rolled back to release log space ". I checked our parameters. We have
> > defined linear logging. There's enough space on the volume to keep
> > hundreds of additional log files, but the transaction is stopped and
> > rolled back. Are there any other parameters involved?
> >
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Re: Websphere MQ Express ?

2003-10-02 Thread Rick Tsujimoto
Don't know what you pay for MQ, but we recently paid $3,177 for a single
cpu system.  This also may mean that IBM plans to bump the cost for the
full blown product.




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I'm not so sure you are correct, if I remember correctly it is about 60-70%
of the full product street price.

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That's more than the full-blown product for a single intel cpu.




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I saw something around $4125.Also, only available for intel 1 CPU
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how much does itcost?




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Oh good grief - another version!

At least some of the differences appear to be outlined in the "Limitations"
section of the announcement:

Limitations

The program is licensed to run only on a uniprocessor machine (that is, a
machine with no more than a single CPU)
No more than 10 server-to-server queue manager channels may be active
concurrently
No more than 10 server-to-client channels may be active concurrently
No extended transactional clients may be connected to this server
Message size may not exceed 4 MB

-- T.Rob

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Has anyone seen this new product announcement ?  It appears to be plain MQ,
but for Windows or Linux.


Check this out:
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name=Demonstration&htmlfid=897/ENUS203-258


Would anyone from IBM care to explain the differences between them ?


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Re: Command line admin of execution group in MQSI

2003-10-02 Thread Sam Garforth
Thanks. I have looked at this briefly and will
continue to play with it but so far it seems to just
cover message flows and message sets but not execution
groups. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the
terminology. It seems that it's all done by a client
program putting messages on a command server type
queue. Is this a documented interface?

Thanks,

Sam

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Re: Command line admin of execution group in MQSI

2003-10-02 Thread "Rodríguez Alvarez-Querol, Manuel Carlos"
Check supportpac IC01.


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Re: A program the uses MQSeries Client and Server libraries

2003-10-02 Thread Paul Clarke
bobbee,

Like I said in my note I don't really want to get into an XA debate.  XA is
not *that* different from the single transactional case. If you lose your
connection you will generally be backed out on the server. XA is two phase
though and if you lose your connection after the 'prepare' phase then the
server (ie MQ) can't arbitrarily decide to back it out. The coordinator
must resolve the transaction the next time the server comes online.

I don't understand your 'is there something I am missing' question. Do you
have a specific question in mind ?

Cheers,
P.

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Paul,
I would assume that if I am running, in server mode, and have a resource
coordinator, CICS, RRDS, etc and the connection is broken the coordinated
resources, MQ, DB2, VSAM, are backed-out/ comitted correctly??

Is there something I am missing. I / we do some progmatical tricks (?) when
it comes to no-coordinated processing. That is a given. BUT.?


bobbee


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>T.Rob,
>
>This is good advice and I agree whole heartedly that the application
>programmer must  deal with 2009 reason codes correctly and perform message
>operations in syncpoint if you need to ensure 100% reliability. However, I
>do not agree that this is a client thing. Exactly the same decisions must
>be taken in the server application. There is no difference between the
>transactional programming model on the client and on the server. (except
>perhaps XA transactions and let's not start that debate). The only
>difference in the client is that the windows and opportunities for getting
>a 2009 are somewhat larger because you have a TCP socket in the way.
>
>Cheers,
>P.
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Command line admin of execution group in MQSI

2003-10-02 Thread Sam Garforth
Does anyone know how to start, stop, and/or deploy an
MQSI execution group from the command line or
programmatically?

Thanks,

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Re: AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Robert Broderick
Just a note from prior postings.

Someone had said once, and I never seen this proven (and personally I don't
believe it from what I personally know), BUT...the statement at that time
form someone I do not remember is that the Prim and Sec log parameters
effect LINEAR Logging. It may be a red herring but look at your parameter
definations and the number of LOG files that are actually created. I would
be interested in the number. (That comment always bugged me!!!)
 bobbee

PS given the disclaimers in the above message. I think I just set myself up.
Hold on let me bend over to receive the kick (hahaha)

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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:47:39 +0200
Hi Matthew,

this was our first error. The transaction stops after 10.000 messages. I
increased the parameter from 10.000 to 300.000. After this it stops after
about 15.000 messages with AMQ7469.
Best regard,
Michael Fleck
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Have you looked at the queue manager attribute Max Uncommitted Msgs?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space
Hi list members,

I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series.
We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running
transaction, which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without commits.
After 15.000 messages we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to
release log space ". I checked our parameters. We have defined linear
logging. There's enough space on the volume to keep hundreds of additional
log files, but the transaction is stopped and rolled back. Are there any
other parameters involved?
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Re: A program the uses MQSeries Client and Server libraries

2003-10-02 Thread Robert Broderick
Paul,
I would assume that if I am running, in server mode, and have a resource
coordinator, CICS, RRDS, etc and the connection is broken the coordinated
resources, MQ, DB2, VSAM, are backed-out/ comitted correctly??
Is there something I am missing. I / we do some progmatical tricks (?) when
it comes to no-coordinated processing. That is a given. BUT.?
bobbee


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T.Rob,

This is good advice and I agree whole heartedly that the application
programmer must  deal with 2009 reason codes correctly and perform message
operations in syncpoint if you need to ensure 100% reliability. However, I
do not agree that this is a client thing. Exactly the same decisions must
be taken in the server application. There is no difference between the
transactional programming model on the client and on the server. (except
perhaps XA transactions and let's not start that debate). The only
difference in the client is that the windows and opportunities for getting
a 2009 are somewhat larger because you have a TCP socket in the way.
Cheers,
P.
Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley


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Jeff,

Sorry, not going to answer your question but have some related advice.
Yes,
it is true that you can write code that runs the same on client and server
bindings.  Just be sure to write the code to the more rigorous standards
required for a client.
Specifically, you want to do everything under syncpoint and figure out how
to handle the 2009 return code.  A 2009 means that your connection to the
QMgr was lost.  The problem is that you do not know whether it was lost
BEFORE the MCA got your request or AFTER.  So, for example, if you get a
2009 on a PUT, the call may have worked, or it may not.  If you are making
your calls under syncpoint you can be assured the PUT will be rolled back
if
you get a 2009.
Under syncpoint, the only exposure is if you get a 2009 on a COMMIT.  In
this case, your messages MAY have been committed or MAY NOT.  When your
program reconnects, it has no way of knowing so you have to decide - do I
redo any PUT and GET activity or not?  If the application tolerates dupes
well, you can just restart the previous transaction and repeat any PUT or
GET activity.
We found a bug under MQ 5.3 where the listener threw 2009 on a GET with
convert but inetd handled it fine.  This problem went away when we moved to
the latest client.
-- T.Rob

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We are writing a program that will be able to access either the MQSeries
client
or MQSeries server depending on the system it runs on.
My understanding is that the code can be written such that no changes are
needed
and the method of connection (Client or Server) depends upon which set of
MQSeries
libraries the program links with. This would create two different
executable, one for
a MQSeries Client system and another for a MQSeries Server system
Is there a way to create a single executable which will recognize it is on
a MQSeries
server and perform accordingly and if not, perform as if it were running on
a MQSeries
client system?
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Re: Websphere MQ Express ?

2003-10-02 Thread Dag, Michael
Title: RE: Websphere MQ Express ?





Didn't the NDA expire the moment it was announced?


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I think he (probably) means that Express contains more from a technical
perspective ...


The actual detail of the content will have to come from the IBM side, as I'm
under NDA on this.


Dave


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I'm not so sure you are correct, if I remember correctly it is about 60-70%
of the full product street price.


Francois van der Merwe
Senior IT Specialist: IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist, Solutions Expert &
Developer
IBM, Cape Town, South Africa
+27 (0)82 556 9467 / +27 (0)21 402 5597
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That's more than the full-blown product for a single intel cpu.





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I saw something around $4125.    Also, only available for intel 1 CPU
machines.


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Oh good grief - another version!


At least some of the differences appear to be outlined in the "Limitations"
section of the announcement:


Limitations


The program is licensed to run only on a uniprocessor machine (that is, a
machine with no more than a single CPU)
No more than 10 server-to-server queue manager channels may be active
concurrently
No more than 10 server-to-client channels may be active concurrently
No extended transactional clients may be connected to this server
Message size may not exceed 4 MB


-- T.Rob


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Subject: Websphere MQ Express ?



Has anyone seen this new product announcement ?  It appears to be plain MQ,
but for Windows or Linux.



Check this out:
http://www-3.ibm.com/fcgi-bin/common/ssi/ssialias?infotype=an&subtype=ca&app





name=Demonstration&htmlfid=897/ENUS203-258



Would anyone from IBM care to explain the differences between them ?



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Re: A program the uses MQSeries Client and Server libraries

2003-10-02 Thread Paul Clarke
T.Rob,

This is good advice and I agree whole heartedly that the application
programmer must  deal with 2009 reason codes correctly and perform message
operations in syncpoint if you need to ensure 100% reliability. However, I
do not agree that this is a client thing. Exactly the same decisions must
be taken in the server application. There is no difference between the
transactional programming model on the client and on the server. (except
perhaps XA transactions and let's not start that debate). The only
difference in the client is that the windows and opportunities for getting
a 2009 are somewhat larger because you have a TCP socket in the way.

Cheers,
P.

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Jeff,

Sorry, not going to answer your question but have some related advice.
Yes,
it is true that you can write code that runs the same on client and server
bindings.  Just be sure to write the code to the more rigorous standards
required for a client.

Specifically, you want to do everything under syncpoint and figure out how
to handle the 2009 return code.  A 2009 means that your connection to the
QMgr was lost.  The problem is that you do not know whether it was lost
BEFORE the MCA got your request or AFTER.  So, for example, if you get a
2009 on a PUT, the call may have worked, or it may not.  If you are making
your calls under syncpoint you can be assured the PUT will be rolled back
if
you get a 2009.

Under syncpoint, the only exposure is if you get a 2009 on a COMMIT.  In
this case, your messages MAY have been committed or MAY NOT.  When your
program reconnects, it has no way of knowing so you have to decide - do I
redo any PUT and GET activity or not?  If the application tolerates dupes
well, you can just restart the previous transaction and repeat any PUT or
GET activity.

We found a bug under MQ 5.3 where the listener threw 2009 on a GET with
convert but inetd handled it fine.  This problem went away when we moved to
the latest client.

-- T.Rob

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We are writing a program that will be able to access either the MQSeries
client
or MQSeries server depending on the system it runs on.

My understanding is that the code can be written such that no changes are
needed
and the method of connection (Client or Server) depends upon which set of
MQSeries
libraries the program links with. This would create two different
executable, one for
a MQSeries Client system and another for a MQSeries Server system

Is there a way to create a single executable which will recognize it is on
a MQSeries
server and perform accordingly and if not, perform as if it were running on
a MQSeries
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WebSphere Admin Console Problems

2003-10-02 Thread Andrew Miller
Hi 2 u all.

Running WebSphere Admin Console (4.02 and 4.04 versions) and WSCP is giving
us insurmountable problems
attempting to administer our environments. Symptoms are loss of console due
to disconnects, application
starts failing or hanging and indeed a general 'slowness'. Admitedly its a
pretty immature product in IBM's
grand scheme of things especially given my own experience with CICS and IMS
over the years.

The simple question I have to you all is, does anyone else out there have
similar comments on WAS failings ?

Regards

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Re: Websphere MQ Express ?

2003-10-02 Thread David C. Partridge
I think he (probably) means that Express contains more from a technical
perspective ...

The actual detail of the content will have to come from the IBM side, as I'm
under NDA on this.

Dave

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Sent: 02 October 2003 09:48
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Subject: Re: Websphere MQ Express ?


I'm not so sure you are correct, if I remember correctly it is about 60-70%
of the full product street price.

Francois van der Merwe
Senior IT Specialist: IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist, Solutions Expert &
Developer
IBM, Cape Town, South Africa
+27 (0)82 556 9467 / +27 (0)21 402 5597
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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That's more than the full-blown product for a single intel cpu.




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I saw something around $4125.Also, only available for intel 1 CPU
machines.

Francois van der Merwe
Senior IT Specialist: IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist, Solutions Expert &
Developer
IBM, Cape Town, South Africa
+27 (0)82 556 9467 / +27 (0)21 402 5597
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how much does itcost?




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Oh good grief - another version!

At least some of the differences appear to be outlined in the "Limitations"
section of the announcement:

Limitations

The program is licensed to run only on a uniprocessor machine (that is, a
machine with no more than a single CPU)
No more than 10 server-to-server queue manager channels may be active
concurrently
No more than 10 server-to-client channels may be active concurrently
No extended transactional clients may be connected to this server
Message size may not exceed 4 MB

-- T.Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Websphere MQ Express ?


Has anyone seen this new product announcement ?  It appears to be plain MQ,
but for Windows or Linux.


Check this out:
http://www-3.ibm.com/fcgi-bin/common/ssi/ssialias?infotype=an&subtype=ca&app




name=Demonstration&htmlfid=897/ENUS203-258


Would anyone from IBM care to explain the differences between them ?


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Re: Websphere MQ Express ?

2003-10-02 Thread Francois Van der Merwe1
I'm not so sure you are correct, if I remember correctly it is about 60-70%
of the full product street price.

Francois van der Merwe
Senior IT Specialist: IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist, Solutions Expert &
Developer
IBM, Cape Town, South Africa
+27 (0)82 556 9467 / +27 (0)21 402 5597
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I saw something around $4125.Also, only available for intel 1 CPU
machines.

Francois van der Merwe
Senior IT Specialist: IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist, Solutions Expert &
Developer
IBM, Cape Town, South Africa
+27 (0)82 556 9467 / +27 (0)21 402 5597
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Oh good grief - another version!

At least some of the differences appear to be outlined in the "Limitations"
section of the announcement:

Limitations

The program is licensed to run only on a uniprocessor machine (that is, a
machine with no more than a single CPU)
No more than 10 server-to-server queue manager channels may be active
concurrently
No more than 10 server-to-client channels may be active concurrently
No extended transactional clients may be connected to this server
Message size may not exceed 4 MB

-- T.Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Websphere MQ Express ?


Has anyone seen this new product announcement ?  It appears to be plain MQ,
but for Windows or Linux.


Check this out:
http://www-3.ibm.com/fcgi-bin/common/ssi/ssialias?infotype=an&subtype=ca&app




name=Demonstration&htmlfid=897/ENUS203-258


Would anyone from IBM care to explain the differences between them ?


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AW: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Fleck, Michael
Hi Matthew,

this was our first error. The transaction stops after 10.000 messages. I increased the 
parameter from 10.000 to 300.000. After this it stops after about 15.000 messages with 
AMQ7469.

Best regard,
Michael Fleck

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Have you looked at the queue manager attribute Max Uncommitted Msgs?

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Sent: 02 October 2003 08:27
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Subject: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space


Hi list members,

I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series.
We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running transaction, 
which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without commits. After 15.000 messages 
we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space ". I checked 
our parameters. We have defined linear logging. There's enough space on the volume to 
keep hundreds of additional log files, but the transaction is stopped and rolled back. 
Are there any other parameters involved?

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Re: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Gurney, Matthew
Have you looked at the queue manager attribute Max Uncommitted Msgs?

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Sent: 02 October 2003 08:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space


Hi list members,

I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series.
We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running
transaction, which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without
commits.
After 15.000 messages we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back
to release log space ".
I checked our parameters. We have defined linear logging. There's enough
space on the volume to keep hundreds of additional log files, but the
transaction is stopped and rolled back.
Are there any other parameters involved?

Best regard
Michael Fleck

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AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back to release log space

2003-10-02 Thread Fleck, Michael
Hi list members,

I'm relatively new in dealing with MQ-Series. 
We use MQ Version 5.3 on a Windows 2000 Server. We have a long running
transaction, which sends about 100.000 messages to a queue without
commits.
After 15.000 messages we get the error "AMQ7469 Transactions rolled back
to release log space ".
I checked our parameters. We have defined linear logging. There's enough
space on the volume to keep hundreds of additional log files, but the
transaction is stopped and rolled back.
Are there any other parameters involved?

Best regard
Michael Fleck

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