Moving the list server ?
In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Not a bad suggestion but personally NO. The current service works quite well with the occasional problem and its much more likely to remain free of charge. Regards Tim A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Sounds good to me, as long as it is free and there is no risk of losing the archive. -Original Message- From: MQSeries List on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 22/07/2004 19:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Sid mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place Brian S. Crabtree WBI Consultant - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Moving the list server ? > In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being > able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move > the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us > could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? > > Any thoughts anyone... > > > Sid Young > QML Pathology > Brisbane > Australia > > Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in > the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
After all the BS is said and doneif a move is required I second THIS suggestion and agree!! From: "Brian S. Crabtree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:42:58 -0400 Sid mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place Brian S. Crabtree WBI Consultant - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Moving the list server ? > In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being > able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move > the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us > could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? > > Any thoughts anyone... > > > Sid Young > QML Pathology > Brisbane > Australia > > Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in > the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive _ Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. http://lexus.msn.com/ Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
That would be bad for me as we are blocked from anything Yahoo related at our proxy server. I can read but can't reply, which would be akin to one hand clapping. Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
I use both - but mostly the list server. I prefer to keep the email subscription format. Dave Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Stick it somewhere where Google can get at it... -Original Message- From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? After all the BS is said and doneif a move is required I second THIS suggestion and agree!! >From: "Brian S. Crabtree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:42:58 -0400 > >Sid > >mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place > >Brian S. Crabtree >WBI Consultant > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM >Subject: Moving the list server ? > > > > In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not >being > > able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to >move > > the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of >us > > could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? > > > > Any thoughts anyone... > > > > > > Sid Young > > QML Pathology > > Brisbane > > Australia > > > > Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in > > the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > >Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in >the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com >Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive _ Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. http://lexus.msn.com/ Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete this communication and destroy all copies. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
As far as I know Brandon (the owner of MQSeries.net) is already looking at converting the MQSeries ListServ Archive into "MQSeries.net" database. Don't know the status of this item :-( Michael -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Broderick Verzonden: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:39 PM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Moving the list server ? After all the BS is said and doneif a move is required I second THIS suggestion and agree!! >From: "Brian S. Crabtree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:42:58 -0400 > >Sid > >mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place > >Brian S. Crabtree >WBI Consultant > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM >Subject: Moving the list server ? > > > > In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not >being > > able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to >move > > the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of >us > > could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? > > > > Any thoughts anyone... > > > > > > Sid Young > > QML Pathology > > Brisbane > > Australia > > > > Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in > > the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > >Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in >the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com >Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive _ Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. http://lexus.msn.com/ Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
For what it's worth, Yahoo blocks many ISPs and Email Service Providers. They say it's due to spam but I suspect it's at least partly due to competition. Also, many corporate proxies block outbound Yahoo email. Both of these would limit participation. I've also heard from people using Yahoo groups that the digest option is horribly unreliable. I also get a lot more spam from my Yahoo account than I ever do from this account, it's just that the spam doesn't come through the Yahoo groups, it comes independently. Of course, I don't use that account for anything else so I have to assume the spammers have a way to troll the group membership. I like this list server. It's fast, it's reliable, it has all the options of a Listserv. And I kind of prefer having a list owner who is an administrator and not a participant because of his hands-off approach and his impartiality on those occasions when we need his help. I think the only real problem we had here was that our list owner was not immediately available. If we got a secondary contact for the existing list, we'd have more reliable access when problems crop up. Would that not be acceptable? -- T.Rob -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Here Here!!! We seem to have not mentioned anywhere, we have not received those READ: messages for a few days now. Either they are not being generated, or they are being trapped. Either way, the problem has been responded to in what appears to me to have been a timely matter, considering that this was not an earth-shattering problem to begin with, just an annoyance. DA -Original Message- From: Wyatt, T.rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? For what it's worth, Yahoo blocks many ISPs and Email Service Providers. They say it's due to spam but I suspect it's at least partly due to competition. Also, many corporate proxies block outbound Yahoo email. Both of these would limit participation. I've also heard from people using Yahoo groups that the digest option is horribly unreliable. I also get a lot more spam from my Yahoo account than I ever do from this account, it's just that the spam doesn't come through the Yahoo groups, it comes independently. Of course, I don't use that account for anything else so I have to assume the spammers have a way to troll the group membership. I like this list server. It's fast, it's reliable, it has all the options of a Listserv. And I kind of prefer having a list owner who is an administrator and not a participant because of his hands-off approach and his impartiality on those occasions when we need his help. I think the only real problem we had here was that our list owner was not immediately available. If we got a secondary contact for the existing list, we'd have more reliable access when problems crop up. Would that not be acceptable? -- T.Rob -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia *** Calyon This message and/or any attachments (the "message") is intended for the sole use of its addressee. If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the sender and then destroy the message. The unauthorized disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either whole or partial) of this e-mail, or any information it contains, is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our knowledge, its content is not legally binding on CALYON Corporate and Investment Bank. All rights reserved. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Brian, Yes it is in place, but I hate using a web interface for email... can it be setup so all forums that users are interested in are sent as email only ? Sid -Original Message- From: Brian S. Crabtree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? Sid mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place Brian S. Crabtree WBI Consultant - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Moving the list server ? > In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being > able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move > the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us > could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? > > Any thoughts anyone... > > > Sid Young > QML Pathology > Brisbane > Australia > > Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in > the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Yep, my company was going to do that with yahoo AND hotmail, thats one hand clapping with only 2 fingers left :( Sid -Original Message- From: Thomas, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? That would be bad for me as we are blocked from anything Yahoo related at our proxy server. I can read but can't reply, which would be akin to one hand clapping. Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Vote me a NO on this. Bear in mind that it is summer holiday season. I agree that there is likely a need for additional LISTOWNER's to be able to deal with problems, but I think the listserv group is easier to deal with, and it's commercial free! "Taylor, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERCEQUEST.COM> To Sent by: MQSeries [EMAIL PROTECTED] List cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT> Subject Re: Moving the list server ? 07/23/2004 05:14 AM Please respond to MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT> Sounds good to me, as long as it is free and there is no risk of losing the archive. -Original Message- From: MQSeries List on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 22/07/2004 19:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server ?
Also, supporting the list like this is a big commitment, often under-estimated, and the migration may be painful, especially for the infrequent users. Do we really have enough reasons to move off this one? Pavel "Thomas, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM> cc: Sent by: MQSeries Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT> 07/23/2004 08:53 AM Please respond to MQSeries List That would be bad for me as we are blocked from anything Yahoo related at our proxy server. I can read but can't reply, which would be akin to one hand clapping. Don Thomas EDS - PASC * Phone: +01-412-893-1659 Fax: 412-893-1844 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Moving the list server?
Title: RE: Moving the list server? Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life
Re: Moving the list server?
I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi"Kinnaird, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life
Re: Moving the list server?
I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. Jim Ruzi R wrote: I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi "Kinnaird, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life
Re: Moving the list server?
I concur. I think the list needs to stay as-is. Glen Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Director TSYS - MQSeries Technical Support James Simms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/26/04 14:56 Please respond to MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Moving the list server? I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. Jim Ruzi R wrote: I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi "Kinnaird, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you
Re: Moving the list server?
I agree with James. Mike Davidson TSYS MQ Tech Support IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Simms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/26/2004 02:56 PM Please respond to MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Moving the list server? I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. Jim Ruzi R wrote: I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi "Kinnaird, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you
Re: Moving the list server?
I agree, the list server should remain as is. Dean Dyck IBM Certified Specialist: MQSeries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/26/2004 03:11 PM Please respond to MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Moving the list server? I agree with James. Mike Davidson TSYS MQ Tech Support IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Simms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/26/2004 02:56 PM Please respond to MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Moving the list server? I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. Jim Ruzi R wrote: I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi "Kinnaird, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you
Re: Moving the list server ?
Bruce, The problem appears that there is no one to deal with it... People can post anything and there is no active moderator. -Original Message- From: Bruce Baxter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 10:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving the list server ? Vote me a NO on this. Bear in mind that it is summer holiday season. I agree that there is likely a need for additional LISTOWNER's to be able to deal with problems, but I think the listserv group is easier to deal with, and it's commercial free! "Taylor, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ERCEQUEST.COM> To Sent by: MQSeries [EMAIL PROTECTED] List cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT> Subject Re: Moving the list server ? 07/23/2004 05:14 AM Please respond to MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT> Sounds good to me, as long as it is free and there is no risk of losing the archive. -Original Message- From: MQSeries List on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 22/07/2004 19:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Moving the list server ? In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any thoughts anyone... Sid Young QML Pathology Brisbane Australia Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive