Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-26 Thread Bruce Baxter
Vote me a NO on this.  Bear in mind that it is summer holiday season.   I
agree that there is likely a need for additional LISTOWNER's to be able to
deal with problems, but I think the listserv group is easier to deal with,
and it's commercial free!



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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-26 Thread Pavel Tolkachev
Also, supporting the list like this is a big commitment, often under-estimated, and 
the migration may be painful, especially for the infrequent users. Do we really have 
enough reasons to move off this one?

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Re: Moving the list server?

2004-07-26 Thread Kinnaird, John
Title: RE: Moving the list server?





Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance.

However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you?


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Re: Moving the list server?

2004-07-26 Thread Ruzi R
I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment...

Regards,

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Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance.
However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you?
John Kinnaird Manager, National Operating Center Tree of Life 

Re: Moving the list server?

2004-07-26 Thread Glen Shubert



I concur. I think the list needs to stay as-is.

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I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. 
Jim 
Ruzi R wrote: 
I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi 
Kinnaird, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. 
However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? 
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Re: Moving the list server?

2004-07-26 Thread Mike Davidson



I agree with James.

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I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. 
Jim 
Ruzi R wrote: 
I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi 
Kinnaird, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. 
However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? 
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Re: Moving the list server?

2004-07-26 Thread Dean Dyck



I agree, the list server should remain as is.


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I am concerned that this will come down to a vote of a minority -- that being the case, I vote DO NOT MOVE. This ia a reliable and convenient listserver with a recent glitch that is transient and correctable with a few Delete keystrokes. 
Jim 
Ruzi R wrote: 
I personally don't think that the move is justified at this moment... Regards, Ruzi 
Kinnaird, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Just my 2 cents worth, I don't think I've seen anything that would justify a move, just a few annoyances, and this listserv seems to otherwise work pretty well. It didn't take me too long to hit my delete key a few times during the recent disturbance. 
However, when there is a problem, it is not good if there are only two people who can moderate the discussion and one is no longer around and the other is temporarily unreachable. It's a lot to ask, but maybe there are a few who have the time and interest to become moderators. If that responsibility is shared, then there is more of a chance of someone being available to handle problems and it wouldn't be big burden on any one person. You would need something like that anyway even if you moved the list somewhere else wouldn't you? 
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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-26 Thread Sid . Young
Bruce, The problem appears that there is no one to deal with it... People
can post anything and there is no active moderator.

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Vote me a NO on this.  Bear in mind that it is summer holiday season.   I
agree that there is likely a need for additional LISTOWNER's to be able to
deal with problems, but I think the listserv group is easier to deal with,
and it's commercial free!



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Sounds good to me, as long as it is free and there is no risk of losing the
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 In light of all the problems with users sending read replies
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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Taylor, Neil
Sounds good to me, as long as it is free and there is no risk of losing the archive.

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In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being
able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move
the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us
could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

Any thoughts anyone...


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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Brian S. Crabtree
Sid

mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place

Brian S. Crabtree
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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Robert Broderick
After all the BS is said and doneif a move is required I second THIS
suggestion and agree!!

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Sid
mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place
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 In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not
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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Thomas, Don
That would be bad for me as we are blocked from anything Yahoo
related at our proxy server. I can read but can't reply, which would be akin
to one hand clapping.

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could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

Any thoughts anyone...


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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread David C. Partridge
I use both - but mostly the list server.   I prefer to keep the email
subscription format.

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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Stick it somewhere where Google can get at it...



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After all the BS is said and doneif a move is required I second THIS
suggestion and agree!!


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Sid

mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place

Brian S. Crabtree
WBI Consultant

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  In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not
being
  able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to
move
  the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of
us
  could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?
 
  Any thoughts anyone...
 
 
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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Dag
As far as I know Brandon (the owner of MQSeries.net) is already looking
at converting the MQSeries ListServ Archive into MQSeries.net database.

Don't know the status of this item :-(

Michael

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After all the BS is said and doneif a move is required I second THIS
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Sid

mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place

Brian S. Crabtree
WBI Consultant

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  In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not
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  the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of
us
  could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?
 
  Any thoughts anyone...
 
 
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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Wyatt, T.rob
For what it's worth, Yahoo blocks many ISPs and Email Service Providers.  They say 
it's due to spam but I suspect it's at least partly due to competition.  Also, many 
corporate proxies block outbound Yahoo email.  Both of these would limit 
participation.  I've also heard from people using Yahoo groups that the digest option 
is horribly unreliable.  I also get a lot more spam from my Yahoo account than I ever 
do from this account, it's just that the spam doesn't come through the Yahoo groups, 
it comes independently.  Of course, I don't use that account for anything else so I 
have to assume the spammers have a way to troll the group membership.

I like this list server.  It's fast, it's reliable, it has all the options of a 
Listserv.  And I kind of prefer having a list owner who is an administrator and not a 
participant because of his hands-off approach and his impartiality on those occasions 
when we need his help.  I think the only real problem we had here was that our list 
owner was not immediately available.  If we got a secondary contact for the existing 
list, we'd have more reliable access when problems crop up.  Would that not be 
acceptable?

-- T.Rob

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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Awerbuch, David (CALYON)
Here Here!!!

We seem to have not mentioned anywhere, we have not received those READ:
messages for a few days now.  Either they are not being generated, or they
are being trapped.  Either way, the problem has been responded to in what
appears to me to have been a timely matter, considering that this was not an
earth-shattering problem to begin with, just an annoyance.

DA


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From: Wyatt, T.rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Moving the list server ?


For what it's worth, Yahoo blocks many ISPs and Email Service Providers.
They say it's due to spam but I suspect it's at least partly due to
competition.  Also, many corporate proxies block outbound Yahoo email.  Both
of these would limit participation.  I've also heard from people using Yahoo
groups that the digest option is horribly unreliable.  I also get a lot more
spam from my Yahoo account than I ever do from this account, it's just that
the spam doesn't come through the Yahoo groups, it comes independently.  Of
course, I don't use that account for anything else so I have to assume the
spammers have a way to troll the group membership.

I like this list server.  It's fast, it's reliable, it has all the options
of a Listserv.  And I kind of prefer having a list owner who is an
administrator and not a participant because of his hands-off approach and
his impartiality on those occasions when we need his help.  I think the only
real problem we had here was that our list owner was not immediately
available.  If we got a secondary contact for the existing list, we'd have
more reliable access when problems crop up.  Would that not be acceptable?

-- T.Rob

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Subject: Moving the list server ?


In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being
able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move
the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us
could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

Any thoughts anyone...


Sid Young
QML Pathology
Brisbane
Australia



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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Sid . Young
Brian,

Yes it is in place, but I hate using a web interface for email... can it be
setup so all forums that users are interested in are sent as email only ?

Sid

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Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 8:43 PM
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Sid

mqseries.net is far more useful than the listserver and is already in place

Brian S. Crabtree
WBI Consultant

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: Moving the list server ?


 In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being
 able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to
move
 the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us
 could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

 Any thoughts anyone...


 Sid Young
 QML Pathology
 Brisbane
 Australia

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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-23 Thread Sid . Young
Yep, my company was going to do that with yahoo AND hotmail, thats one hand
clapping with only 2 fingers left :(

Sid

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Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 10:53 PM
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That would be bad for me as we are blocked from anything Yahoo
related at our proxy server. I can read but can't reply, which would be akin
to one hand clapping.

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:01 PM
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Subject: Moving the list server ?


In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being
able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move
the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us
could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

Any thoughts anyone...


Sid Young
QML Pathology
Brisbane
Australia

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Moving the list server ?

2004-07-22 Thread Sid . Young
In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being
able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move
the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us
could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

Any thoughts anyone...


Sid Young
QML Pathology
Brisbane
Australia

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Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-22 Thread Tim Armstrong
Not a bad suggestion but personally NO. The current service works quite well
with the occasional problem and its much more likely to remain free of
charge.

Regards
Tim A

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Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 9:01 AM
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Subject: Moving the list server ?


In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being
able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move
the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us
could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ?

Any thoughts anyone...


Sid Young
QML Pathology
Brisbane
Australia

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