Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] playing catchup always
On Thursday 05 January 2012 21.52:09 Lars wrote: > > (I guess something like COM by microsoft was invented so you could reuse > components within other tools, i.e. C++ COM components worked in VB, > right? I don't know much about COM technology, or activex. I remember one > day I tried installing an Excel component for Delphi (you could embed > Microsoft Excel into a delphi application). Cool, because you could reuse > Excel within another tool and it didn't matter if Excel was written in > C++, it still worked in your delphi application.) > In MSEgui one could use twindowwidget in order to embed a window of another process. > Could corba components be invented so that for example I could create a > CORBA component in MSEGUI, and then reuse that component in Lazarus and > FPGUI? > Using a component which is not optimized for the embedding framework is always a second-rate solution. It would need another abstraction layer over MSEgui, Lazarus and fpGUI. :-) > What is Corba good for? Mainly for client-server or peer-to-peer communication. Martin -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] playing catchup always
Could corba components be invented so that for example I could create a CORBA component in MSEGUI, and then reuse that component in Lazarus and FPGUI? What is Corba good for? = The question has been already risen. Graeme knows much more as to advancing CORBA toward FPC :) CORBA is excellent (You may even access CORBA-servers written in Java and run via JVM - for DB access, etc) but means a lot of prepare&connect code (at least C++ version). The Pascal version claims to eliminate such code. 2012/1/6, Marcos Douglas : > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Lars wrote: >> The problem I see with lazarus, msegui, and fpgui, and Lptk, and other GUI >> kits is that they are always playing catch up with each other. For example >> if you have a component like VirtualTreeView from Mike Lischke, how can >> one utilize this in a FpGUI or MsEGUI or LPTK application? > > +1 > >> >> Just an observation. Orobably nothing we can do about it. > > Unfortunately. =( > >> (I guess something like COM by microsoft was invented so you could reuse >> components within other tools, i.e. C++ COM components worked in VB, >> right? I don't know much about COM technology, or activex. I remember one >> day I tried installing an Excel component for Delphi (you could embed >> Microsoft Excel into a delphi application). Cool, because you could reuse >> Excel within another tool and it didn't matter if Excel was written in >> C++, it still worked in your delphi application.) > > And it still works on Delphi and FPC. ;-) > >> Could corba components be invented so that for example I could create a >> CORBA component in MSEGUI, and then reuse that component in Lazarus and >> FPGUI? What is Corba good for? > > > > Marcos Douglas > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] playing catchup always
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Lars wrote: > The problem I see with lazarus, msegui, and fpgui, and Lptk, and other GUI > kits is that they are always playing catch up with each other. For example > if you have a component like VirtualTreeView from Mike Lischke, how can > one utilize this in a FpGUI or MsEGUI or LPTK application? +1 > > Just an observation. Orobably nothing we can do about it. Unfortunately. =( > (I guess something like COM by microsoft was invented so you could reuse > components within other tools, i.e. C++ COM components worked in VB, > right? I don't know much about COM technology, or activex. I remember one > day I tried installing an Excel component for Delphi (you could embed > Microsoft Excel into a delphi application). Cool, because you could reuse > Excel within another tool and it didn't matter if Excel was written in > C++, it still worked in your delphi application.) And it still works on Delphi and FPC. ;-) > Could corba components be invented so that for example I could create a > CORBA component in MSEGUI, and then reuse that component in Lazarus and > FPGUI? What is Corba good for? Marcos Douglas -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 14:22:19 -0600 "Lars" wrote: > I wonder how Windows XP does remote GUI without an x11 architecture. In > windows XP they have something called "Remote Assistance" which is Not-not. Every X-application can create windows on many separate computers (X-servers) via network. This not equal and not similar to "remote desktop". -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] playing catchup always
The problem I see with lazarus, msegui, and fpgui, and Lptk, and other GUI kits is that they are always playing catch up with each other. For example if you have a component like VirtualTreeView from Mike Lischke, how can one utilize this in a FpGUI or MsEGUI or LPTK application? Just an observation. Orobably nothing we can do about it. (I guess something like COM by microsoft was invented so you could reuse components within other tools, i.e. C++ COM components worked in VB, right? I don't know much about COM technology, or activex. I remember one day I tried installing an Excel component for Delphi (you could embed Microsoft Excel into a delphi application). Cool, because you could reuse Excel within another tool and it didn't matter if Excel was written in C++, it still worked in your delphi application.) Could corba components be invented so that for example I could create a CORBA component in MSEGUI, and then reuse that component in Lazarus and FPGUI? What is Corba good for? -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 3 January 2012 23:42, Lars wrote: >> i find it is X11 that >> is actually slowing things down. But since I have no evidence or proof >> it >> is the X11 bandwidth or wrappers or code indirection > > > X11 has a lot of latency issues - mostly due to its client/server > (network) based design. That is why it is not nearly as responsive as > Windows, Mac OS X or even Haiku. Thinking about it, even my 1996 OS/2 > setup is faster than current Linux in GUI/mouse response. Hopefully > the Wayland project > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server)] can penetrate > the Linux GUI market, and resolve the X11 issues. I wonder how Windows XP does remote GUI without an x11 architecture. In windows XP they have something called "Remote Assistance" which is something like VNC I think (faster? I don't know). So without an x11 architecture I wonder how they make windows remote capable. Possibly something similar to vnc so maybe not as efficient as x11, I do not know, I haven't tried remote assistance. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 4 January 2012 10:55, Martin Schreiber wrote: >> >> I don't think so. MSEgui X11 applications are as fast as gdi32 >> applications if >> they are not slowed down by a "modern" compositing window manager. From >> my >> point of view as GUI toolkit developer the X11 API is well designed, > > As a GUI toolkit developer myself (smile), I agree with the X11 API > being well designed (contrary to many other developers saying it is > difficult to use). But the lack of "snappy" feeling could be due to > the latency X11 has, due to the client/server design. The other > downside under Linux is the lack of fast graphics drivers. Linux has > by far the slowest graphics performance compared to MacOS and Windows > - even when you use the proprietary drivers under Linux. The lack of snappy feeling in linux could also be due to Microsoft windows spending lots of research and development on this (double buffering or some internal microsoft speedy optimizations, I don 't know). > A simple test for what I consider a "snappy" test. Resize a window > under Linux. You very often see multiple rectangles being drawn as the > graphics system tries to keep up. Also, the mouse often moves faster > than the corner edge of the window being resized. Under MacOS (wife's > iMac) and Windows (same laptop which has Linux installed too) the > mouse never leaves the corner edge of the window, and you don't see > multiple window rectangles being drawn as you resize. Not a very > "professional" test, but enough to clearly show the difference in > performance. > Since MAC is BSD based now, does Mac not use X11? How does it get it's snappyness? Or does it have that slower feel to it? -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
On Thursday 05 January 2012 19.29:57 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > Kristian Høgsberg stated that his goal was that every frame is > perfect, by which he mean that applications will be able to control > the rendering enough that we'll never see tearing, lag, redrawing or > flicker. > > So I take it Kristian, which developed many of todays X11 features > like AIGLX, DRI2 etc., knows the issues with the current X11 > implementation, and should be able fix those in Wayland. If Apple > could do it on top of FreeBSD (now MacOSX or Darwin etc.), then > Kristain should be able to do it too with Linux and probably other > *nix platforms too, I would imagine. In my opinion the problem is not X11 per se but the collaboration of the application with the myriad of different window managers on Linux. Wayland probably will add another bunch of different "solutions" to the list. Martin -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE: manually open MFM file will get focused on each saving (very annoying!)
On Thursday 05 January 2012 18.25:42 IvankoB for-mse wrote:
> Hmm...Tomorrow me'll send the project. Today me even had an AV around.
> BTW, in the found files list ("Search in files.."), double clicking
> PAS-files sometimes bring to FG its MFM-brother instead.
>
git master f46860290aef69b9be10027ecbd62cb16542ee0a closes form before opening
formtext, maybe it helps.
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
On 5 January 2012 11:19, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > Do you know if with Wayland draws window frame and application in the same > process or are there other synchronization methods? Sorry, I don't know the details of Wayland at all. I've just read a bit here and there on the Internet. I have heard the following mentioned a few times though Kristian Høgsberg stated that his goal was that every frame is perfect, by which he mean that applications will be able to control the rendering enough that we'll never see tearing, lag, redrawing or flicker. So I take it Kristian, which developed many of todays X11 features like AIGLX, DRI2 etc., knows the issues with the current X11 implementation, and should be able fix those in Wayland. If Apple could do it on top of FreeBSD (now MacOSX or Darwin etc.), then Kristain should be able to do it too with Linux and probably other *nix platforms too, I would imagine. -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE: manually open MFM file will get focused on each saving (very annoying!)
Hmm...Tomorrow me'll send the project. Today me even had an AV around.
BTW, in the found files list ("Search in files.."), double clicking
PAS-files sometimes bring to FG its MFM-brother instead.
2012/1/5, Martin Schreiber :
> On Thursday 05 January 2012 13.55:29 IvankoB for-mse wrote:
>> - load the PODPISKA
>> - activate the form designer for "MAIN.pas"
>> - open "Search in files" dialogue
>> - search smth contained in "MAIN.mfm"
>> - once found, double click on the found text so that the IDE opens
>> MAIN.mfm - close MAIN.MFM
>> - try to keep MAIN.MFM closed on saving File or Project
>>
> Can not reproduce.
>
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE: manually open MFM file will get focused on each saving (very annoying!)
On Thursday 05 January 2012 13.55:29 IvankoB for-mse wrote: > - load the PODPISKA > - activate the form designer for "MAIN.pas" > - open "Search in files" dialogue > - search smth contained in "MAIN.mfm" > - once found, double click on the found text so that the IDE opens > MAIN.mfm - close MAIN.MFM > - try to keep MAIN.MFM closed on saving File or Project > Can not reproduce. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form.OnAacivate triggers upon seletion in a combobox placed on the form
On Thursday 05 January 2012 13.50:30 IvankoB for-mse wrote: > focus was in popup window > > Yes. > But temporary deactivating the form just to show a popup (an > internally handled piece) is designed ? > Yes, the popup window is focused. git master f46860290aef69b9be10027ecbd62cb16542ee0a has twidget.optionswidget1 ow1_modalcallonactivate, ow1_modalcalldeactivate. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE: manually open MFM file will get focused on each saving (very annoying!)
- load the PODPISKA - activate the form designer for "MAIN.pas" - open "Search in files" dialogue - search smth contained in "MAIN.mfm" - once found, double click on the found text so that the IDE opens MAIN.mfm - close MAIN.MFM - try to keep MAIN.MFM closed on saving File or Project Fixable be reloading the project. 2012/1/5, Martin Schreiber : > On Thursday 05 January 2012 12.18:10 IvankoB wrote: >> Until the project is reopen. >> >> The MFM file has its PAS-brother already loaded into the IDE. >> > Steps? > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form.OnAacivate triggers upon seletion in a combobox placed on the form
focus was in popup window Yes. But temporary deactivating the form just to show a popup (an internally handled piece) is designed ? 2012/1/5, Martin Schreiber : > On Thursday 05 January 2012 11.29:27 IvankoB wrote: >> As designed ? >> > Probably because input focus was in popup window? > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] An idea how to minimize requerying data
- some form modifies data & commits changes to DB - in AfterApplyUpdate of the modified query, for dependent queries affecting other forms set Tag property to 1 - on Activating of each of the affected forms, check value of Tag of queries supplying data, if the value is 1 then refresh the query & revert Tag to 0 Any improvements ? -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE: manually open MFM file will get focused on each saving (very annoying!)
On Thursday 05 January 2012 12.18:10 IvankoB wrote: > Until the project is reopen. > > The MFM file has its PAS-brother already loaded into the IDE. > Steps? -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form.OnAacivate triggers upon seletion in a combobox placed on the form
On Thursday 05 January 2012 11.29:27 IvankoB wrote: > As designed ? > Probably because input focus was in popup window? -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE: manually open MFM file will get focused on each saving (very annoying!)
Until the project is reopen. The MFM file has its PAS-brother already loaded into the IDE. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Form.OnAacivate triggers upon seletion in a combobox placed on the form
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
On Thursday 05 January 2012 09.25:03 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > Anyway, Wayland seems to be the only X11-alternative that is actually > getting some traction. Lets hope they can implement all the goals they > mention on their website. :) Do you know if with Wayland draws window frame and application in the same process or are there other synchronization methods? Martin -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "modern" Linux desktops
On 4 January 2012 19:17, Martin Schreiber wrote: > handled and compressed. The problem on Linux is that the window decoration > and the window client area are drawn asynchronously by different processes I understand the theory behind what X11 does... ignoring the theory of how X11 does what it does, the end result (to a end-user) looks terrible and is perceived as a very slow/sluggish GUI. Tearing is another common artefact seen under Linux graphics - I often see this on my laptop running Linux while watching TV series. Rebooting my laptop to Windows gives a much better experience with the same TV series. Anyway, Wayland seems to be the only X11-alternative that is actually getting some traction. Lets hope they can implement all the goals they mention on their website. :) -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
