Re: [music-dsp] maintaining musicdsp.org
adding recaptcha to an existing site would not be too difficult, and would get the job done. if you decide to overhaul... I'm partial to Rails, it's pretty awesome. (disclosure I'm a ruby/rails developer as my day job) there are a handful of CMS solutions for rails 3, here are two options that look decent... I could help customize http://refinerycms.com/ http://www.browsercms.org/ -D On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Kevin Dixon wrote: I would vote for a CAPTCHA... specifically recaptcha http://www.google.com/recaptcha/whyrecaptcha -Kevin On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Bastian Schnuerle bastian.schnue...@silberstein.de wrote: just did wordpress for a friend .. looks nice .. +1 .. Am 05.04.2012 um 21:50 schrieb douglas repetto: I think even Wordpress would work very well for the content on musicdsp.org. I agree a full drupal site seems like overkill! douglas On 4/5/12 10:05 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote: On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: Hey Bjorn, On 5/04/2012 1:52 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote: Any thoughts about modernizing the whole thing with a fresh CMS? I think it would be easier to maintain, have built-in spam filters, and it would be easier to have multiple people do the work. Plus it would look more attractive. I don't think it would take much effort to redo the whole thing in, say, drupal. Have you ever set up a Drupal site? I have. It is not for small-time, non-commercial, low-maintenance overhead projects imho. Yes. Quite a few. Imho it would be a huge job to port the current site to Drupal and there is a lot of ongoing maintenance required to keep security patches up to date etc etc. Yes. The biggest problem is security updates. You are right: major PITA factor. This can be mitigated by a hosted solution, or a multi-site install where someone is already monitoring the site for security updates. But, at the end of the day, that might not be realistic. Doing the theme port alone would be a lot of work. I would not dream of porting the existing theme, but rather use a new, or built-in theme. Unless I'm completely out of touch it is really non-trivial to set up something like musicdsp.org in Drupal with adequate spam filtering. The standard Drupal capcha solution (Mollom) is not great -- in my experience it flags a lot of false positives (spam that isn't spam). Mollom sucks. Captchas alone catch the vast majority of spam. The rest can be handled with moderation. Anyway, this is really just a vote against Drupal for musicdsp.org, not against using a CMS. I actually think the current ad-hoc php solution is not so bad -- but Bram knows more about these things than me. Recaptcha could be added to the existing site with fairly little effort, but there are other advantages to a CMS: they are easier to team-manage, organize, and they have a number of potentially useful features like taxonomies (giving the ability to tag and categorize algos by language and purpose for example.) bjorn - Bjorn Roche http://www.xonami.com Audio Collaboration http://blog.bjornroche.com -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- ... http://artbots.org .douglas.irving http://dorkbot.org .. http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp ...repetto. http://music.columbia.edu/organism ... http://music.columbia.edu/~douglas -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp
Re: [music-dsp] maintaining musicdsp.org
guys guys guys don't get ahead of yourselves! :-) musicdsp.org is pretty simple in terms of code. Rewriting in drupal (or similar) would take way too long and would -this is much more important- require someone who is dedicated to musicdsp.org for the next few years (as I myself have very little experience with Drupal, except the nightmare that is called security updates). I'm just looking for someone who has a bit more time than me and feels like hacking (not coding) a few extra things like a captcha (recaptcha?) and what not into musicdsp's current code base - which is PHP. And anyway, if I would rewrite it, I would rewrite it in django as I have a vast amount of experience with django. ;-)) - Bram On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:12 AM, david.lowenf...@gmail.com wrote: adding recaptcha to an existing site would not be too difficult, and would get the job done. if you decide to overhaul... I'm partial to Rails, it's pretty awesome. (disclosure I'm a ruby/rails developer as my day job) there are a handful of CMS solutions for rails 3, here are two options that look decent... I could help customize http://refinerycms.com/ http://www.browsercms.org/ -D On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Kevin Dixon wrote: I would vote for a CAPTCHA... specifically recaptcha http://www.google.com/recaptcha/whyrecaptcha -Kevin On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Bastian Schnuerle bastian.schnue...@silberstein.de wrote: just did wordpress for a friend .. looks nice .. +1 .. Am 05.04.2012 um 21:50 schrieb douglas repetto: I think even Wordpress would work very well for the content on musicdsp.org. I agree a full drupal site seems like overkill! douglas On 4/5/12 10:05 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote: On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: Hey Bjorn, On 5/04/2012 1:52 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote: Any thoughts about modernizing the whole thing with a fresh CMS? I think it would be easier to maintain, have built-in spam filters, and it would be easier to have multiple people do the work. Plus it would look more attractive. I don't think it would take much effort to redo the whole thing in, say, drupal. Have you ever set up a Drupal site? I have. It is not for small-time, non-commercial, low-maintenance overhead projects imho. Yes. Quite a few. Imho it would be a huge job to port the current site to Drupal and there is a lot of ongoing maintenance required to keep security patches up to date etc etc. Yes. The biggest problem is security updates. You are right: major PITA factor. This can be mitigated by a hosted solution, or a multi-site install where someone is already monitoring the site for security updates. But, at the end of the day, that might not be realistic. Doing the theme port alone would be a lot of work. I would not dream of porting the existing theme, but rather use a new, or built-in theme. Unless I'm completely out of touch it is really non-trivial to set up something like musicdsp.org in Drupal with adequate spam filtering. The standard Drupal capcha solution (Mollom) is not great -- in my experience it flags a lot of false positives (spam that isn't spam). Mollom sucks. Captchas alone catch the vast majority of spam. The rest can be handled with moderation. Anyway, this is really just a vote against Drupal for musicdsp.org, not against using a CMS. I actually think the current ad-hoc php solution is not so bad -- but Bram knows more about these things than me. Recaptcha could be added to the existing site with fairly little effort, but there are other advantages to a CMS: they are easier to team-manage, organize, and they have a number of potentially useful features like taxonomies (giving the ability to tag and categorize algos by language and purpose for example.) bjorn - Bjorn Roche http://www.xonami.com Audio Collaboration http://blog.bjornroche.com -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- ... http://artbots.org .douglas.irving http://dorkbot.org .. http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp ...repetto. http://music.columbia.edu/organism ... http://music.columbia.edu/~douglas -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp
