Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
Isn’t it possible to give titles to individual mediums in NGS? I think someone could successfully defend an RFC proposing some way of using that field to indicate “bonus disc” status, at least in cases where “official” information (packaging or the like) explicitly call a disc a bonus disc. (As opposed to just “disc 2”.) I didn’t notice a “comment” field for mediums, but I didn’t look very closely, it’s possible there might one. — Bogdan Butnaru On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:46, Dr Andrew John Hughes gnu_and...@member.fsf.org wrote: On 26 May 2011 08:57, Ross Tyler rossety...@gmail.com wrote: Pre NGS, the fact that a release was a bonus disc was predominantly suggested in the release title. Now NGS bundles the bonus disc with the rest of the release but should there still be an explicit indication in the release group that this is a bonus release or is the number of discs sufficient? Please see the discussion at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14499722 This seems like a clear regression from classic MB to me, as in many things with track listings; no artists, no ARs, etc. This is probably the more minor of those, but important nonetheless. -- Andrew :-) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and IcedTea http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://icedtea.classpath.org PGP Key: F5862A37 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EA30 D855 D50F 90CD F54D 0698 0713 C3ED F586 2A37 ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Bogdan Butnaru bogd...@gmail.com wrote: Isn’t it possible to give titles to individual mediums in NGS? I think someone could successfully defend an RFC proposing some way of using that field to indicate “bonus disc” status, at least in cases where “official” information (packaging or the like) explicitly call a disc a bonus disc. (As opposed to just “disc 2”.) I don't think this is really so interesting, but I also have absolutely no problem with it. So if someone wants to see Bonus Disc back, this seems like the best way of doing it (of course, restricting it to the ones which *are* explicitly called bonus disc in the release). I didn’t notice a “comment” field for mediums, but I didn’t look very closely, it’s possible there might one. — Bogdan Butnaru On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:46, Dr Andrew John Hughes gnu_and...@member.fsf.org wrote: On 26 May 2011 08:57, Ross Tyler rossety...@gmail.com wrote: Pre NGS, the fact that a release was a bonus disc was predominantly suggested in the release title. Now NGS bundles the bonus disc with the rest of the release but should there still be an explicit indication in the release group that this is a bonus release or is the number of discs sufficient? Please see the discussion at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14499722 This seems like a clear regression from classic MB to me, as in many things with track listings; no artists, no ARs, etc. This is probably the more minor of those, but important nonetheless. -- Andrew :-) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and IcedTea http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://icedtea.classpath.org PGP Key: F5862A37 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EA30 D855 D50F 90CD F54D 0698 0713 C3ED F586 2A37 ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
Pre NGS, the fact that a release was a bonus disc was predominantly suggested in the release title. Now NGS bundles the bonus disc with the rest of the release but should there still be an explicit indication in the release group that this is a bonus release or is the number of discs sufficient? Please see the discussion at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14499722 On 5/24/2011 7:41 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14491791 azertus is asking if we should have a way to record the fact that a disc is considered bonus. It does seem that this ability was lost in the move to NGS, but I'm not sure I think it's important. Thoughts? ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
On 26 May 2011 08:57, Ross Tyler rossety...@gmail.com wrote: Pre NGS, the fact that a release was a bonus disc was predominantly suggested in the release title. Now NGS bundles the bonus disc with the rest of the release but should there still be an explicit indication in the release group that this is a bonus release or is the number of discs sufficient? Please see the discussion at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14499722 This seems like a clear regression from classic MB to me, as in many things with track listings; no artists, no ARs, etc. This is probably the more minor of those, but important nonetheless. -- Andrew :-) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and IcedTea http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://icedtea.classpath.org PGP Key: F5862A37 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EA30 D855 D50F 90CD F54D 0698 0713 C3ED F586 2A37 ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
Hello, On 26/05/11 09:57, Ross Tyler wrote: Pre NGS, the fact that a release was a bonus disc was predominantly suggested in the release title. Now NGS bundles the bonus disc with the rest of the release but should there still be an explicit indication in the release group that this is a bonus release or is the number of discs sufficient? Please see the discussion at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14499722 On 5/24/2011 7:41 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14491791 azertus is asking if we should have a way to record the fact that a disc is considered bonus. It does seem that this ability was lost in the move to NGS, but I'm not sure I think it's important. Thoughts? When a particular two disc release exists in a release group which also has a one disc release with an identical first disc, that implies the second disc on the two disc release is a bonus disc. Similarly for releases with more discs and/or more bonus discs. I personally do not see the need to keep track of this information in a more explicit way. -- kuno / warp. ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phi...@foolip.org wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14491791 azertus is asking if we should have a way to record the fact that a disc is considered bonus. It does seem that this ability was lost in the move to NGS, but I'm not sure I think it's important. Thoughts? I would say if it is important it can be added in an annotation. I mean, before we didn't really show if a disc was considered bonus, it just indicated that a release was available with and without another (and we also used it for linking boxsets also published as standalone releases and stuff like that). Now we have two different releases, with and without the bonus disc, so I wouldn't say it is something worth stating in most cases. But maybe someone thinks it is? -- Philip Jägenstedt ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
Well, we could simply add it to the name of the bonus medium in the release? Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com ha scritto: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phi...@foolip.org wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14491791 azertus is asking if we should have a way to record the fact that a disc is considered bonus. It does seem that this ability was lost in the move to NGS, but I'm not sure I think it's important. Thoughts? I would say if it is important it can be added in an annotation. I mean, before we didn't really show if a disc was considered bonus, it just indicated that a release was available with and without another (and we also used it for linking boxsets also published as standalone releases and stuff like that). Now we have two different releases, with and without the bonus disc, so I wouldn't say it is something worth stating in most cases. But maybe someone thinks it is? -- Philip Jägenstedt _ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren_ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Bonus discs?
2011/5/24 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phi...@foolip.org wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14491791 azertus is asking if we should have a way to record the fact that a disc is considered bonus. It does seem that this ability was lost in the move to NGS, but I'm not sure I think it's important. Thoughts? I would say if it is important it can be added in an annotation. I mean, before we didn't really show if a disc was considered bonus, it just indicated that a release was available with and without another (and we also used it for linking boxsets also published as standalone releases and stuff like that). Now we have two different releases, with and without the bonus disc, so I wouldn't say it is something worth stating in most cases. But maybe someone thinks it is? -- Philip Jägenstedt -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren Well, I'd be surprised if no-one would think it worthwile to keep that info. I agree now that putting something like 'bonus disc' in the medium title (as I first suggested) is not something we'd want to be doing. Just when we've got rid of ' (disc x)'... Perhaps I lament the loss of ' (bonus disc)' because I've been brought up on the MusicBrainz way of thinking? Dare I suggest it: a 'bonus check' per medium? In any case we had good guidelines that determined if ' (bonus disc)' could be added to a release pre-NGS, so if a bonus check was added, those same guidelines could police its use... -- azertus ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
