Re: Thread Display

2002-09-24 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:04:11PM -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
 Here are the gory details. Much of my communication is not through
 mailing lists. As a rule I don't go to a folder to exchange mail with 
 a particular person.
that's what I meant ... nearly nobody has one folder per person.

 I want to keep a record of everything I send.
sure ... that's what I meant with: 
# default record location
folder-hook . set record==sent

 So send gets its own folder. This is nonnegotiable. I want keep a
 record of everything I receive. I dont want to hand sort that stuff.
that's what procmail/maildrop is for.

 (maildrop switches destination folders for me just fine, but that is
 not the kind of data I'm processing.) So all my non-newsgroup
 inbound goes to 1 folder. That is also non negotiable.
well ... _everything_ not going to a mailing list goes to let's
say =inbox ?
This would simplyfy stuff a lot ... you'd need only _one_ further
folder-hook:
folder-hook =inbox set record==inbox

so everything sent from within =inbox would be recorded to =inbox.
And when replying to someone who sent a mail directly to you, it's
unlikely you're in a mailinglist folder ... isn't it?

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subscribe command and %L in index_format

2002-09-24 Thread Rob Lingelbach

is there a way to use 'subscribe' and index_format to have 
the 'L' flag on a message to show it's from a list, but 
instead of having the string To list returned, 
return the name of the author, as would happen if I didn't 
have the list subscribed?  in other words i like the L flag
in the index_format but still want the string of the author
shown.

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fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Eric Smith

I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
the tags faster?

-- 
Eric Smith



Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Ken Weingold

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002, Eric Smith wrote:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?

Telling people not to send email as HTML.  Most don't know they're
doing it.


-Ken





Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Charles Cazabon

Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?

Deleting HTML mail unread.  It's /much/ faster that way.  Seriously; I've yet
to receive a piece of HTML mail that was worth reading.

Charles
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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Eric Smith wrote:

 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?

someone commented on lynx -dump recently, to the effect that there
are some messages which can be optimized in lynx by setting ALERTSECS,
INFOSECS and MESSAGESECS to zero.  (Actually he wanted to hard-code it
into the behavior of the -dump option, but it's easily scripted).

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Re: custom flags or priorities? - X-Label + %y %Y ~y

2002-09-24 Thread Sven Guckes

* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-24 05:59]:
 * Rob Lingelbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-23 22:21 -0700]:
  On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:
   but there was a patch which allowed to
   add a comment in an extra header line.
   maybe this can solve your problem...

 http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt

  http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#-label

yes, that's the one.  however, the description does not mention
whether it adds a command to add such an X-Label header to messages.

 .. search the manual for %y and ~y. Perhaps these can
 do what you want (perhaps together with the above patch).

  4.8.  Handling Mailing Lists
  [...]
  The ``X-Label:'' header field can be used to further identify mailing
  lists or list subject matter (or just to annotate messages
  individually).  The ``$index_format'' variable's ``%y'' and ``%Y''
  escapes can be used to expand ``X-Label:'' fields in the index, and
  Mutt's pattern-matcher can match regular expressions to ``X-Label:''
  fields with the `` y'' selector.  ``X-Label:'' is not a standard
  message header field, but it can easily be inserted by procmail and
  other mail filtering agents.

mailing lists are not the only application, of course..

Sven



Re: adding cc automatically - use the editor

2002-09-24 Thread Sven Guckes

* David Ellement [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-24 06:16]:
 I have seen the message(s) in the archives pointing out the
 manual section that states send-hook can't be used to change the
 recipient headers.  What I've not seen is anyone suggesting how
 it might be accomplished without without using send-hook.

use the power of your editor then.

however, auto-CCs are quite silly as they usually add
an address which gets into the way of people's mailers
which know only group-reply and not list-reply.
an address in BCC is usually much better.

then again, you did not describe the purpose of this idea
so i'm just wasting my time with guesses again.

Sven



Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Sven Guckes

* Eric old fruit Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-24 13:44]:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait for
 `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html mails that
 happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip the tags faster?

well - do not let mutt process the text/html stuff then.  simply ignore it!

Sven

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Turn off the HTML in your emails - or else! /BODY /HTML



Re: Thread Display

2002-09-24 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:40:27PM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:04:11PM -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
  Here are the gory details. Much of my communication is not through
  mailing lists. As a rule I don't go to a folder to exchange mail with 
  a particular person.
 that's what I meant ... nearly nobody has one folder per person.
 
  I want to keep a record of everything I send.
 sure ... that's what I meant with: 
 # default record location
 folder-hook . set record==sent
 
  So send gets its own folder. This is nonnegotiable. I want keep a
  record of everything I receive. I dont want to hand sort that stuff.
 that's what procmail/maildrop is for.
 
  (maildrop switches destination folders for me just fine, but that is
  not the kind of data I'm processing.) So all my non-newsgroup
  inbound goes to 1 folder. That is also non negotiable.
 well ... _everything_ not going to a mailing list goes to let's
 say =inbox ?
 This would simplyfy stuff a lot ... you'd need only _one_ further
 folder-hook:
 folder-hook =inbox set record==inbox
 
 so everything sent from within =inbox would be recorded to =inbox.
 And when replying to someone who sent a mail directly to you, it's
 unlikely you're in a mailinglist folder ... isn't it?
 

Cool! That means I can use:

   folder-hook =inbox set record==sent

to record everything I sent. Then I can generate a unique link name
via safecat and hardlink all unlinked messages in 'sent' to a link 
name in inbox.

I could skip all the perl messageID scanning and maintain threads and
a separate 'sent' record list on the fly. I like it. Thanks for
the feedback.


Regards,

JPK





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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Johan Almqvist

* Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020924 15:36]:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?

Procmail

:0
*Content-type: text/html
{
:0 c
/home/johan/Maildir/.junk/

:0 fb
|lynx -force_html -dump /dev/stdin

:0 afwh
|formail -i Content-type: text/plain -I X-Johan: htmlkiller
}

(I don't really lie procmail, but I haven't come around to change this
script. I also save an extra copy in my junk Maildir, in case something
should get broken...)

-Johan
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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Patrick

* Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-24-02 08:54]:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?

I use:
text/html; w3m -F -dump -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

And it seems to be almost instantaneous.
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  @ http://counter.li.org



Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread bill luecke

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:36:49PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote:

I have the following line in my .mailcap

text/html; unhtml ; copiousoutput

I think the unhtml website is at 

http://www.econym.demon.co.uk/unhtml/

Then I view the mail as an attachment, and unhtml strips out the
tags. Seems instantaneous on my machine. I have no idea what it might
do for really complicated e-mails that had tables, etc. However,
unhtml seems excellent for getting rid of the formatting tags.


bill


 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?
 
 -- 
 Eric Smith

-- 

William Luecke   



Re: fast conversion of html mail to text - unhtml

2002-09-24 Thread Eric Smith

bill luecke said:
 On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:36:49PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote:
 
 I have the following line in my .mailcap
 
 text/html; unhtml ; copiousoutput

good answer - apt-get install unhtml on debian

But it is still almost a second delay.
I think i will try and kill this problem with procmail.

-- 
Eric Smith



Re: subscribe command and %L in index_format

2002-09-24 Thread Sven Guckes

* Rob Lingelbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-24 13:08]:
 is there a way to use 'subscribe' and index_format to have the 'L' flag
 on a message to show it's from a list, but instead of having the string
 To list returned, return the name of the author, as would happen if
 I didn't have the list subscribed?  in other words i like the L flag in
 the index_format but still want the string of the author shown.

try this:

  set index_format=%4C %Z %[!%y%m%d] %-17.17F (%3l) %s

you are mixing up %Z with %F there.  rtfm.

Sven



PGP sign-if-have-key

2002-09-24 Thread Johan Almqvist

* Josh Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If I send someone a message, and I've got his key, Gnus doesn't
  suggest to encrypt the message.

 Agreed, this would be nice...

This was about Gnus, but can mutt do this?

-Johan
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http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/



Re: fast conversion of html mail to text - unhtml

2002-09-24 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Eric Smith wrote:

 bill luecke said:
  On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:36:49PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote:
 
  I have the following line in my .mailcap
 
  text/html; unhtml ; copiousoutput

 good answer - apt-get install unhtml on debian

 But it is still almost a second delay.
 I think i will try and kill this problem with procmail.

What *SECS values does your lynx.cfg have?

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S/MIME encrypt-to functionality as in GnuPG

2002-09-24 Thread René Clerc

Hi all,

I'm looking for the S/MIME equivalent of the GnuPG option:

encrypt-to key-id

Because now I'm unable to read the encrypted e-mails I have sent to
some recipients...

I was not able to find it in TFM...

Thanks,

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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann

Hello.

On Tue 2002-09-24 at 15:36:49 +0200, Eric Smith wrote:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?

Be sure to use the -nopause flag. Else, if lynx display a status
message for some reason, it will wait for some second(s). And yes, it
also does this with -dump and -source, where one does not get to see
the status message at all. At least, last time I tried.

Bye,

Benjamin.

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Re: custom flags or priorities? - X-Label + %y %Y ~y

2002-09-24 Thread David Champion

* On 2002.09.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Sven Dogbert Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#-label

Should be:
http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#x-label


 yes, that's the one.  however, the description does not mention
 whether it adds a command to add such an X-Label header to messages.

It does (that's actually all this patch does). It's bound to 'y', and
the binding name is edit-label. You press 'y' while a message is
highlighted (or tag-prefixedit-label while messages are tagged), and
the status line prompts for a new label. This label gets applied to the
message (or all tagged messages) in the X-Label: header.

The rest of the X-Label stuff is in mutt naturally as of 1.4. I have
other patches at the same site to provide this to older versions.


   4.8.  Handling Mailing Lists
   [...]
   The ``X-Label:'' header field can be used to further identify mailing
   [...]
 
 mailing lists are not the only application, of course..

Not at all; I use it for lots of things besides, including spam scoring
and simple notes to myself.


Someone was working on a further patch to do sorting based on X-Label.
Not sure how that's coming. It's been on my to-do list for some time,
but I don't seem to be getting around to it. The combination would
provide exactly what this poster is looking for, I think.

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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:

 Hello.

 On Tue 2002-09-24 at 15:36:49 +0200, Eric Smith wrote:
  I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
  for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
  mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
  the tags faster?

 Be sure to use the -nopause flag. Else, if lynx display a status
 message for some reason, it will wait for some second(s). And yes, it
 also does this with -dump and -source, where one does not get to see
 the status message at all. At least, last time I tried.

That's correct.

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Re: reply and start new thread?

2002-09-24 Thread Fernan Aguero

+[ Asi hablaba Roberto Rotta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
|
| * Fernan Aguero [23 Sep 2002, 15:25 -0300]:
|  How do you reply to a message in a thread, change the
|  subject and start a new thread?
| 
| press m :D

I already knew that :|

| 
|  I mean, I can do all this by hand, but perhaps there is
|  already a command for doing this?
|  Suppose that while reading a thread you get motivated to
|  reply to something that has nothing to do with the thread,
|  but you need to quote it. Basically you reply to the list
|  (and perhaps CC the original author), change the subject,
|  perhaps using a common formula:
|  New Subject (Was: Re: Old thread)
|  remove the In-Reply-To or Mail-Followup-To fields so that
|  the message does indeed start a new thread (at least in MUAs
|  that thread reasonably well).
|  
|  Anything else that should get changed/touched? Something I
|  missed? Perhaps it is not a good idea to remove some
|  headers?
| 
| I think that you can set edit_hdrs and use your favourite editor to do
| what you want, when you want

I already have edit_hdrs set I just wanted to do it in some
more automated way.

| with my favorite one (vim)
| 
|  ,stn = Start New Thread
| map ,stn 1G/^In-Reply-To: CRdd1G/^Subject: /e+1CRC
| 
| indeed

I'm also using vim :) so, thanks, that did it!

| 
|   2.4.1.  Editing the message header
| 
|   When editing the header of your outgoing message, there are a couple
|   of special features available.
| 
|   ...
| 
|   When replying to messages, if you remove the In-Reply-To: field from
|   the header field, Mutt will not generate a References: field, which
|   allows you to create a new message thread.

Thanks! 

| 
| Roberto
| 
|
+]

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Re: S/MIME encrypt-to functionality as in GnuPG

2002-09-24 Thread Omen Wild

Quoting Ren? Clerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Sep 24 19:08:

 I'm looking for the S/MIME equivalent of the GnuPG option:
 
 encrypt-to key-id

As far as I could tell, it doesn't exist.  This patch add that
functionality.  Set $smime_encrypt_self to true and S/MIME encrypted
messages you send will also be encrypted to $smime_default_key.

Omen

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? .command.sh
? .config
? ^
? patch-1.5.1-ow.smime-encrypt-self.1
? patchlist.c
? pgpewrap
? smime_keys
Index: crypt.c
===
RCS file: /home/roessler/cvs/mutt/crypt.c,v
retrieving revision 3.8
diff -u -d -b -B -r3.8 crypt.c
--- crypt.c 26 Mar 2002 22:23:57 -  3.8
+++ crypt.c 28 Aug 2002 21:57:19 -
@@ -243,6 +243,13 @@
 #ifdef HAVE_SMIME
 if (msg-security  APPLICATION_SMIME)
 {
+  if (OPTSMIMEENCRYPTSELF  SmimeDefaultKey) {
+ int keylist_size;
+
+ keylist_size = mutt_strlen(keylist) + mutt_strlen (SmimeDefaultKey) 
++ 1;
+ safe_realloc ((void **)keylist, keylist_size);
+ sprintf (keylist +  mutt_strlen(keylist), %s\n, SmimeDefaultKey);  
+ /* __SPRINTF_CHECKED__ */
+  }
   if (!(tmp_pbody = smime_build_smime_entity (tmp_smime_pbody, keylist)))
   {
/* signed ? free it! */
Index: init.h
===
RCS file: /home/roessler/cvs/mutt/init.h,v
retrieving revision 3.20
diff -u -d -b -B -r3.20 init.h
--- init.h  9 Aug 2002 06:58:35 -   3.20
+++ init.h  28 Aug 2002 21:57:20 -
@@ -1508,6 +1508,11 @@
 #endif /* HAVE_PGP */
   
 #ifdef HAVE_SMIME
+  { smime_encrypt_self,  DT_BOOL, R_NONE, OPTSMIMEENCRYPTSELF, 
+1 },
+  /*
+  ** .pp
+  ** Encrypt the message to smime_default_key too.
+  */
   { smime_timeout,   DT_NUM,  R_NONE, UL SmimeTimeout, 300 },
   /*
   ** .pp
Index: mutt.h
===
RCS file: /home/roessler/cvs/mutt/mutt.h,v
retrieving revision 3.10
diff -u -d -b -B -r3.10 mutt.h
--- mutt.h  24 Jul 2002 09:46:50 -  3.10
+++ mutt.h  28 Aug 2002 21:57:20 -
@@ -437,6 +437,7 @@
   OPTCRYPTREPLYSIGNENCRYPTED,
   OPTCRYPTTIMESTAMP,
 #ifdef HAVE_SMIME
+  OPTSMIMEENCRYPTSELF,
   OPTSMIMEISDEFAULT,
   OPTASKCERTLABEL,
   OPTSDEFAULTDECRYPTKEY,
Index: PATCHES
===
--- PATCHES~Tue Nov  6 19:59:33 2001
+++ PATCHES Tue Nov  6 19:59:42 2001
@@ -1,0 +1 @@
+patch-1.5.1-ow.smime-encrypt-self.1



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Re: PGP sign-if-have-key

2002-09-24 Thread kevin lyda

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 05:35:43PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote:
  Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   If I send someone a message, and I've got his key, Gnus doesn't
   suggest to encrypt the message.
 This was about Gnus, but can mutt do this?

i use this script:

gpgers.sh:
#!/bin/sh
GPGERS=$HOME/.muttrc.d/gpgers
GPGERS_TMP=$HOME/.muttrc.gpgers.tmp
GPGERS_LOCK=$HOME/.muttrc.d/gpgers.lock
PUBRING=$HOME/.gnupg/pubring.gpg

if [ -f $GPGERS_LOCK ]; then
exit
fi
touch $GPGERS_LOCK
if [ ! -f $GPGERS -o $PUBRING -nt $GPGERS ]; then
gpg --list-keys --with-colons 2 /dev/null \
| awk -F: '$1==pub {a=$7;gsub(-,,a)}
   $1 ~ /uid|pub/ {print a0 $10}' \
| awk '$1 == 0 || $1  '`date +'%Y%m%d0'`' {print $0}' \
| egrep '.*@.*' \
| sed 's/^.*\(.*\).*$/send-hook \1 set pgp_autoencrypt/' \
| sort -u \
 $GPGERS_TMP
mv $GPGERS_TMP $GPGERS 
fi
rm $GPGERS_LOCK

i run this from cron every hour.  i then include the file
$HOME/.muttrc.d/gpgers (see the GPGERS var to change it).  some people i
know with gpg keys don't like encrypted mail regularly (read: pine users)
so i list their send-hooks after the include gpgers line.

kevin

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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Christian Ordig

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:36:49PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote:
 I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
 for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
 mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
 the tags faster?
let procmail kill it before it gets to my mutt .-)

-- 
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Germany




Re: adding cc automatically - use the editor

2002-09-24 Thread David Ellement

On 020924, at 15:56:56, Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 * David Ellement [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-24 06:16]:
  I have seen the message(s) in the archives pointing out the
  manual section that states send-hook can't be used to change the
  recipient headers.  What I've not seen is anyone suggesting how
  it might be accomplished without without using send-hook.
 
 use the power of your editor then.

That's where I'm headed, now that its clear I haven't overlooked a mutt
feature.


 however, auto-CCs are quite silly as they usually add
 an address which gets the way [...]
 
 then again, you did not describe the purpose of this idea
 so i'm just wasting my time with guesses again.

I suppose it is silly...

I typically have a couple of projects going where I'm part of a small
team here, working with another small team at another company.  For each
project, I have one engineer at the other company that is my principal
contact; we have a list setup that includes all the members of both
teams (and we usually have an internal list that includes just our
company team members).  The normal etiquette is to address messages
directly to my contact, and copy the list.  Most of us handle related
messages the same way: we dump messages addressed to us into our inbox
(which we'll check often) and messages to the list into a list box
(which we check once or twice a day).  I could accomplish the same thing
by just addressing the list, but it interferes with the sorting the
urgent (to me) messages from the informational (to someone else on the
team) messages.

Having my editor add the CC line is a reasonable solution.

-- 
David Ellement



Date: field gone in messages

2002-09-24 Thread D. J. Bolderman

Hi ppl,

I just realized that when i'm reading my mail, the Date: field is
missing...
In my index list, the date is shown, but I can't find it back in my
headers. My .muttrc file contains: hdr_order From Date: To: Subject: Cc:
Bcc:

Does anybody know what the problem could be ??

Thanks
Dick




Re: Date: field gone in messages

2002-09-24 Thread Bernard Massot

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 01:47:06AM +0200, D. J. Bolderman wrote:
 Hi ppl,
 
 I just realized that when i'm reading my mail, the Date: field is
 missing...
 In my index list, the date is shown, but I can't find it back in my
 headers. My .muttrc file contains: hdr_order From Date: To: Subject: Cc:
 Bcc:
try this :
unignore Date
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Re: Date: field gone in messages

2002-09-24 Thread David Champion

* On 2002.09.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi ppl,
 
 I just realized that when i'm reading my mail, the Date: field is
 missing...

unignore Date:

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Re: Date: field gone in messages

2002-09-24 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Bernard Massot wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 01:47:06AM +0200, D. J. Bolderman wrote:
  Hi ppl,
  
  I just realized that when i'm reading my mail, the Date: field is
  missing...
  In my index list, the date is shown, but I can't find it back in my
  headers. My .muttrc file contains: hdr_order From Date: To: Subject: Cc:
  Bcc:
 try this :
 unignore Date

Amazing...it works ! Thanks for your quick help. (i'm only a mutt user
for one whole day now :)

Dick





Long term organization

2002-09-24 Thread Brett Sanger

[This may or may not be mutt related, depending on the answer]

Recently different posters have mentioned their different ways of
organizing their email  (by target, by date, etc).

I'm currently having mutt pull everything from my spool and sticking it
into =Inbox, where I have all my personal mail.  perl filters strip spam
and mailing lists into their own mailboxes.  I've got a fcc hook that
puts my sent mail into dated sent-mail mailboxes.  

Now my question:  This form has been working fine for months, but now my
Inbox is starting to get quite full.  Ideally, I guess I'd like to
have an Inbox that hold mail I haven't dealt with (which, depending on
the topic, may take months, so I don't want it in the spool that long.),
but I'd like an easy way to move entire threads or chunks of a thread
into some other mailboxes for archiving.  

Recommendations?  Is this best done with some fancy mutt bindings, or
some cron job that moves old messages automatically?  How do other
people organize their mail when they want to have vast amounts
available?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some problem]

2002-09-24 Thread budsz

Hi,

I was following the instructions at http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/
, I'am running in FreeBSD box with mutt-4.1i, but I still got some problem:

---cut

/usr/include/stdlib.h:108: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
/usr/include/stdlib.h:112: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
In file included from mutt.h:51,
from patchlist.c:5:
charset.h:39: syntax error before `ICONV_CONST'
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/local/src/mutt-1.4.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/local/src/mutt-1.4.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/local/src/mutt-1.4.
 
--cut

Any suggestion for this..?

Thanks before.

-- 
budsz



Re: imap and new mail

2002-09-24 Thread Mike Leone

* D. J. Bolderman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 09 24, 02 at 17:35: 
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 
   At work I now have mutt set up to properly connect via IMAP to an Exchange
   server. The problem is, though, that new messages always appear as old and
   unread. This means that mutt -Z is useless. Is there some adjustment that
   would have to be made on the server to make new messages appear as new (I
   know next to nothing about either Exchange or IMAP)? Is there something I
   can tell mutt to get it to treat old/unread as new, particularly with
   reespect to the -Z option?
  
  Here, with IMAP, I get new messages as expected. But when I reconnect
  to the server, all the new messages become old messages! This is very
  annoying, in particular when I have to quit and restart Mutt without
  having read all the new messages.
 
 So how do all you IMAP users get an overview of all new mails per folder
 when you start Mutt ? Do you have to browse each folder to see if there
 are any new mails ??

Yes. :-( The change-folder command (normally c) shows no new mail
indicator, when changing to different IMAP folders. 

Note: the messages within the folders are properly marked as N (new). And
will stay that way until read, presuming that you unset mark_old. It's
just the list of folders that does not tell you if there is new mail in a
folder, so you have to look in each folder.



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Re: fast conversion of html mail to text

2002-09-24 Thread Erik Christiansen

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 07:51:13AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
 Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am getting a bit irritated by the second or two I need to wait
  for `lynx -dump' or similiar to work when viewing the _many_ html
  mails that happen upon my inbox - what are mutters doing to strip
  the tags faster?
 
 Deleting HTML mail unread.  It's /much/ faster that way.  Seriously;
 I've yet to receive a piece of HTML mail that was worth reading.

   It's true! With procmail diverting html-only email to a junk folder,
   it is not each end-of-the-week survey that shows anything of interest.

   I'm no procmail guru, so others may be able to improve on:

   # First Content-Type: indicates lack of
   :0 HB:  # a plaintext alternative. i.e. HTML only:
   * 1^0 ^Content-Type:\/.*
   * MATCH ?? html
   junk

   And if you forget to look in there some weeks, what the heck? :-)

   (Of the 2247 advertising spams I've received since February, 1899
were html.)

Erik






Re: Long term organization

2002-09-24 Thread Luke Ravitch

On 2002-09-24 18:35, Brett Sanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 but I'd like an easy way to move entire threads or chunks of a thread
 into some other mailboxes for archiving.  

I keep one big archive folder for messages that are not active but
that I want to save (I save pretty much everything).  I also dump most
of my sent mail there as well, so I can view the folder and see
complete threads.

When that gets too big, I plan on rotating it out to a dated archive
folder.  (So I'll move all the messages in =archive from last year to,
say, =archive-2001.)

Moving a message to the archive folder is as easy as 's' for save and
then typing in =archive as the destination folder.  I guess you could
make a macro if that's too much typing.

For many messages at once (including threads), tag the messages
('Esc-T' will tag a whole thread) and then do '; s' to save all of the
tagged messages.

-- 
Luke