Re: Macro/Key Binding to call Fetchmail?

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Strong
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 07:52:09PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 11 at 11:42 AM, quoth Andrew Strong:
> >I normally check mail from within Mutt 1.5.16 as follows:
> >
> > ! Fetchmail -v
> >
> >but I suspect this could be bound to a key rather than typed in each
> >time. I have flailed around with no success, could I have a little
> >direction from the mutt-users?
> 
> macro index,pager I ' fetchmail -v'

Absolutely perfect, thank you for that! Now I have that syntax I
should be able to expand to other shell commands.

   Andrew

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Re: How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-10 Thread Angel Olivera

On Tue 10.Jul.07 19:23, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Gary Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-10-07 19:08]:
Type l (the letter ell) to limit the messages that mutt displays, 
followed by


   ~F|~N

to display only those messages that are either flagged (~F) or new 
(~N).  See the mutt manual, especially the section on "Patterns" for 
more examples.


You might even consider binding the limit[s] (described above) to
easily remembered key strokes, and you are good to go  :^)


That + a folder-hook and he might get the exact desired behavior.

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Re: Macro/Key Binding to call Fetchmail?

2007-07-10 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Wednesday, July 11 at 11:42 AM, quoth Andrew Strong:
>I normally check mail from within Mutt 1.5.16 as follows:
>
> ! Fetchmail -v
>
>but I suspect this could be bound to a key rather than typed in each
>time. I have flailed around with no success, could I have a little
>direction from the mutt-users?

macro index,pager I ' fetchmail -v'

~Kyle
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Macro/Key Binding to call Fetchmail?

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Strong
Hi,

I normally check mail from within Mutt 1.5.16 as follows:

 ! Fetchmail -v

but I suspect this could be bound to a key rather than typed in each
time. I have flailed around with no success, could I have a little
direction from the mutt-users?

 Thanks,

  Andrew

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Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-10 Thread David Woodfall
On (22:07 10/07/07), Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> put forth the 
proposition:
> On 09Jul2007 12:55, Peter Wiersig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:49:57PM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote:
> | > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:42:12AM +0100, David Woodfall wrote:
> | > > Is there a way of setting up a macro or bind similar to change
> | > > dir that will change to mbox?
> | > 
> | > You probably don't know that ! is a shortcut to your configured
> | > inbox, do you?
> | > 
> | > See chapter "7. Mailbox Shortcuts" in your manual.
> | 
> | I got another read on your message and have it interpreted another
> | way now:
> | 
> | In case you want to switch mutt cwd to the directory that matches
> | the current mailfolder:
> | 
> | I don't think there is a possibility for that. 
> 
> Inside mutt, no. But if you invoke mutt via a shell script you could cd into
> a mail folder and then start mutt. If you run mutt once for a single folder
> that would work ok (I do it this way). However, most people start mutt and
> switch from folder to folder within it, and once inside mutt you can't change
> directories.
> 
> But I think we both misunderstand his request.

Sorry it's hard to explain what I mean. Basically, I have some keybinds set
up like this:

macro   browser l   "^u/home/dive/mail/lists"

Works fine, but, I want to be able to cd into an mbox. I can't with 
because I get an error about it not being a folder. So is there a command I
can use in a macro or bind that will cd to an mbox?

> -- 
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> 
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> world with fools.   - Tom Biggs, DoD #1146, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Gary Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-10-07 19:08]:
> Type l (the letter ell) to limit the messages that mutt displays, 
> followed by
> 
>~F|~N
> 
> to display only those messages that are either flagged (~F) or new 
> (~N).  See the mutt manual, especially the section on "Patterns" for 
> more examples.

You might even consider binding the limit[s] (described above) to
easily remembered key strokes, and you are good to go  :^)
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Re: How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-10 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-07-11, Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With Gnus, I marked the to-do messages as important ("flagged" them, in
> Mutt-speak, I think).  After it was done, the message was marked as
> read.  Gnus would automatically show me both new messages and important
> messages, hiding the ones marked as read.
> 
> I think Mutt always shows me all messages, so this method cannot be
> used.

Type l (the letter ell) to limit the messages that mutt displays, 
followed by

   ~F|~N

to display only those messages that are either flagged (~F) or new 
(~N).  See the mutt manual, especially the section on "Patterns" for 
more examples.

HTH,
Gary


Re: How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-10 Thread William Yardley
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 12:57:10AM +0200, Kai Grossjohann wrote:
> 
> With Gnus, I marked the to-do messages as important ("flagged" them, in
> Mutt-speak, I think).  After it was done, the message was marked as
> read.  Gnus would automatically show me both new messages and important
> messages, hiding the ones marked as read.
> 
> I think Mutt always shows me all messages, so this method cannot be
> used.

If you delete them, they won't show up anymore. :>

If you don't like the idea of totally deleting them, you could apply the
trash folder patch, and save them to a trash folder for later deleting
and / or archiving. If you want to keep different trashes for different
folders, this can be accomplished with folder hooks.

Personally, I leave messages marked as "New" until I've responded to
them or dealt with whatever needed to be dealt with, and then I either
leave them in the folder (but unread), or delete them.

I don't think you can /hide/ old and / or read messages, but you can
color them differently if you want.

w


How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-10 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I used to use Gnus which is a newsreader at heart.  Therefore the method
to organize mail in folders ("groups" in Gnus-speak) was different from
what I think I need with Mutt.

I'd like to get some ideas from you how you organize your mail.

For reference, here is what I think the problem might be.

I distribute incoming mail across several folders according to the
address they were sent to -- I am subscribed to quite a number of
mailing lists.

For most mailing lists, I want to know which messages are still to do,
and also to keep old messages that have already been processed.

With Gnus, I marked the to-do messages as important ("flagged" them, in
Mutt-speak, I think).  After it was done, the message was marked as
read.  Gnus would automatically show me both new messages and important
messages, hiding the ones marked as read.

I think Mutt always shows me all messages, so this method cannot be
used.

tia,
Kai


Re: Q: Better list of mailboxes?

2007-07-10 Thread Rado S
=- Kai Grossjohann wrote on Tue 10.Jul'07 at 14:51:30 +0200 -=

> I have added all my (important) mail folders to the mailboxes
> list, and I am now very fond of y to browse them. Some small
> features are missing, though, so I thought I'd ask here for ideas:
> 
> - How to navigate to the next/previous mailbox with new mail?

When you "change" rather than use "y", it is offered as default in
the order your specified them.

> - How to restrict the list of mailboxes to the ones with new mail?

No way, unless you use local mailboxes and delete/ save any read
msgs to leave only N inside: when the folder is empty, it will be
removed from the filesystem (mbox-format required) when you set
"save_empty=no", and it will disappear from "y" list, but reappear
when new mail arrives and the folder exists again.

> - How to show the total number of messages / the number of unread
> messages in each mailbox?

Total: no way yet.
You can only see # of N, and only with IMAP.

> - How to elide information from each line, such as the permissions
> and ownerships of the directories?

"folder_format" as already told by fellow mutter.

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Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-10 Thread Rado S
=- David Woodfall wrote on Tue 10.Jul'07 at 18:35:38 +0100 -=

> Sorry it's hard to explain what I mean. Basically, I have some
> keybinds set up like this:
> 
> macro   browser l   "^u/home/dive/mail/lists"
> 
> Works fine, but, I want to be able to cd into an mbox. I can't
> with  because I get an error about it not being a folder. So is
> there a command I can use in a macro or bind that will cd to an
> mbox?

"cd" means opening a directory of the filesystem to show you files
acting as mailfolders (!= directories with "mbox format").
Mailfolders are simply selected from the browser, or "change"d to
from the index.
You have to explain in detail step by step _without_ using macros
what you want to achieve and when (where you start), then describe
which part(s) you want to automate with macros.

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Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-10 Thread Breen Mullins

* David Woodfall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-10 18:35 +0100]:



Sorry it's hard to explain what I mean. Basically, I have some keybinds set
up like this:

macro   browser l   "^u/home/dive/mail/lists"



I have some macros like this:

macro index ,m =mag

which work for me.

Breen
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Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-10 Thread David Woodfall
On (22:07 10/07/07), Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> put forth the 
proposition:
> On 09Jul2007 12:55, Peter Wiersig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:49:57PM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote:
> | > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:42:12AM +0100, David Woodfall wrote:
> | > > Is there a way of setting up a macro or bind similar to change
> | > > dir that will change to mbox?
> | > 
> | > You probably don't know that ! is a shortcut to your configured
> | > inbox, do you?
> | > 
> | > See chapter "7. Mailbox Shortcuts" in your manual.
> | 
> | I got another read on your message and have it interpreted another
> | way now:
> | 
> | In case you want to switch mutt cwd to the directory that matches
> | the current mailfolder:
> | 
> | I don't think there is a possibility for that. 
> 
> Inside mutt, no. But if you invoke mutt via a shell script you could cd into
> a mail folder and then start mutt. If you run mutt once for a single folder
> that would work ok (I do it this way). However, most people start mutt and
> switch from folder to folder within it, and once inside mutt you can't change
> directories.
> 
> But I think we both misunderstand his request.

Sorry it's hard to explain what I mean. Basically, I have some keybinds set
up like this:

macro   browser l   "^u/home/dive/mail/lists"

Works fine, but, I want to be able to cd into an mbox. I can't with 
because I get an error about it not being a folder. So is there a command I
can use in a macro or bind that will cd to an mbox?

> -- 
> Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DoD#743
> http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/
> 
> The ultimate result of shielding men from the results of folly is to fill the
> world with fools.   - Tom Biggs, DoD #1146, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Q: Better list of mailboxes?

2007-07-10 Thread Kirill Miazine

Greetings,

* Kai Grossjohann [2007-07-10 14:51]:

I have added all my (important) mail folders to the mailboxes list, and
I am now very fond of y to browse them.  Some small features are
missing, though, so I thought I'd ask here for ideas:

 - How to navigate to the next/previous mailbox with new mail?

 - How to restrict the list of mailboxes to the ones with new mail?

 - How to show the total number of messages / the number of unread
   messages in each mailbox?


Not an exact answer to your question, but a possible solution - try the
sidebar patch:

 http://lunar-linux.org/~tchan/mutt/patch-1.5.16.sidebar.20070704.txt

The patch adds a sidebar with list of folders on the left side of the
mutt window. The sidebar shows folders with the total and new number of
messages in them and folders with new messages can be highlighted.


 - How to elide information from each line, such as the permissions and
   ownerships of the directories?


Tweak folder_format. Remove %F, %u and %g to get rid of the mode and
ownership information.

Again, by using the sidebar patch you're only getting folder name and
message count.

Hope this helps.

- Kirill

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Re: Threaded mode but bring updated threads to the front?

2007-07-10 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Yann Lejeune [Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:05:04 +0200]:

> On 2007/07/10-11:59(+), Baldur Gislason wrote :
> > I'm wondering if it's possible to sort in threaded mode but have
> > mutt bring the whole thread to the bottom of the mailbox index
> > rather than putting the new messages back where the first
> > message of the thread is?

> Hi,
>  the following line in your ~/.muttrc should do this:

> set sort=threads
> set sort_aux=last-date-received

Related to this, I like the sorting within a same thread that
last-date-received gives, but I would like the thread with newest mail
to be on top instead of bottom.

I know about sort_aux=reverse-last-date-received, but that changes the
ordering within the thread as well.

I guess it's not possible, then? Or maybe there's a patch I don't know
about...

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Threaded mode but bring updated threads to the front?

2007-07-10 Thread Yann Lejeune
On 2007/07/10-11:59(+), Baldur Gislason wrote :
> I'm wondering if it's possible to sort in threaded mode but have
> mutt bring the whole thread to the bottom of the mailbox index
> rather than putting the new messages back where the first
> message of the thread is?
> 
Hi,
 the following line in your ~/.muttrc should do this:

set sort=threads
set sort_aux=last-date-received

Regards.

Yann.


Q: Better list of mailboxes?

2007-07-10 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I have added all my (important) mail folders to the mailboxes list, and
I am now very fond of y to browse them.  Some small features are
missing, though, so I thought I'd ask here for ideas:

  - How to navigate to the next/previous mailbox with new mail?

  - How to restrict the list of mailboxes to the ones with new mail?

  - How to show the total number of messages / the number of unread
messages in each mailbox?

  - How to elide information from each line, such as the permissions and
ownerships of the directories?

tia,
Kai


Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-10 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 09Jul2007 12:55, Peter Wiersig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:49:57PM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote:
| > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:42:12AM +0100, David Woodfall wrote:
| > > Is there a way of setting up a macro or bind similar to change
| > > dir that will change to mbox?
| > 
| > You probably don't know that ! is a shortcut to your configured
| > inbox, do you?
| > 
| > See chapter "7. Mailbox Shortcuts" in your manual.
| 
| I got another read on your message and have it interpreted another
| way now:
| 
| In case you want to switch mutt cwd to the directory that matches
| the current mailfolder:
| 
| I don't think there is a possibility for that. 

Inside mutt, no. But if you invoke mutt via a shell script you could cd into
a mail folder and then start mutt. If you run mutt once for a single folder
that would work ok (I do it this way). However, most people start mutt and
switch from folder to folder within it, and once inside mutt you can't change
directories.

But I think we both misunderstand his request.
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Threaded mode but bring updated threads to the front?

2007-07-10 Thread Baldur Gislason
I'm wondering if it's possible to sort in threaded mode but have
mutt bring the whole thread to the bottom of the mailbox index
rather than putting the new messages back where the first
message of the thread is?

Baldur