Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-13 Thread David Woodfall
On (01:03 13/07/07), Peter Wiersig [EMAIL PROTECTED] put forth the 
proposition:
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:17:48PM +0100, David Woodfall wrote:
  
  macro generic Y change-folderlists/mutt-users@mutt.orgenter
 
  gives error:
  
  /home/dive/mail/lists/hange-folderlists/mutt-users@mutt.org: No such file
  or directory (errno = 2)
 
 This looks like you left out the  before the c.
 
 Peter

No I've had this problem before. Mutt sees the c of change-folder and
assumes its c and everything after the 'c' is the folder name.

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Re: Change into an mbox - like chdir

2007-07-13 Thread David Champion
* On 2007.07.13, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   David Woodfall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 No I've had this problem before. Mutt sees the c of change-folder and
 assumes its c and everything after the 'c' is the folder name.

Specifically, since change-folder is not defined in the generic
binding map, mutt interprets this as literal , c, h, etc.  You'll
need to write this macro once for index and once for pager, since those
are the only binding maps that change-folder is defined in.

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Re: change mailbox focus

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-09 20:38:33, schrieb John K Masters:
 I am running mutt 1.5.13 on my desktop and 1.5.16 on my laptop. Mail is
 fetched from various sources to the desktop via getmail and delivered to
 appropriate folders (or /dev/null) via procmail. My laptop is setup to
 access mail from my desktop box via NFS when connected and the config
 files are the same apart from /home being replaced by /mnt/home on the
 laptop .muttrc
 
 When changing folders on my desktop the highlighted folder always
 defaults to the top folder; ie first in alphabetical order. On the
 laptop however, it always defaults to the last folder accessed. 
 
 Is this a new feature in 1.5.16? Can it be changed in 1.5.13 .muttrc?

It has something to do with your LOCALE settings.

I have the same issue with my Workstation (de_DE.UTF-8) and
Develstation (Xen instances with Unstable, Testing, Stable
and OldStable, where I can switch locales).

Maybe you create a wraper script which enforce mutt to run
with a fixes locale?

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Crappy mailer and Message-ID:

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack

#  ATTENTION:  I am currently NOT in Strasbourg because#
#  haveing the last 4 weeks of my military #
#  service and can not reply in short delays.  #


*
* Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here.*
* Keine Cc: an mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe.   *
* Ne me mettez pas en Cc:, je suis sur CETTE liste, si j'ecris ici. *
*

Hello *,

I get messages over Mailinglists which break all the times threads and 
I like mutt ^6 feature to repare it.  :-)

However, I het tonns of messages which HAVE a Message-ID: header but can
not repared becase they are broken.

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I like to see mutt MORE failure redunant by aception the above one and
NOT ONLY

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

which is the right RFC thing  (the  around the ID).

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Re: Crappy mailer and Message-ID:

2007-07-13 Thread Aron Griffis
Michelle Konzack wrote:  [Fri Jul 13 2007, 10:56:42AM EDT]
 *
 * Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here.*
 * Keine Cc: an mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe.   *
 * Ne me mettez pas en Cc:, je suis sur CETTE liste, si j'ecris ici. *
 *

This will be automatic for anybody using mutt if you have in your
muttrc:

set followup_to=yes # default
subscribe mutt-users@mutt.org

See http://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html#using-lists

Unfortunately most MUAs don't respect these headers, but at least on
this list it should work :-)

Aron


Re: Crappy mailer and Message-ID:

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Aron,

Am 2007-07-13 11:46:14, schrieb Aron Griffis:
 This will be automatic for anybody using mutt if you have in your
 muttrc:
 
 set followup_to=yes # default
 subscribe mutt-users@mutt.org
 
 See http://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html#using-lists

Who tell you this?

I use mutt since ages...  nearly 8 years.

 Unfortunately most MUAs don't respect these headers, but at least on
 this list it should work :-)

Right, unfortunatly to muck MUAs.
Or even the Webmailer do not respect it.

I get every day those crappy CCs.

Also it is realy annoying, if you want to respond fast and keep not
attention for the To/Cc/BCc headers if people hit Group-Reply which
will mostly end in PMs which I do not realy like to send.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: match replies in a send-hook

2007-07-13 Thread Aron Griffis
Aron Griffis wrote:  [Thu Jul 12 2007, 07:54:57PM EDT]
   1. reply-hooks should run inline with send-hooks instead of before
  them.  The only difference between reply-hooks and send-hooks
  should be which message they're matching against.
 
   2. send-hooks should be able to recognize when they're running on
  a message that is a reply.  Something better than the subject
  hack.

Bob Bell pointed out to me ~Q, which according to the doc matches
messages which have been replied to.  This seems to be intended for
us in limit or tag-pattern.

Whether intentional or inadvertent, it also seems to work for #2
above...

send-hook '~Q'  'my_hdr X-Q-Status: this is a reply'
send-hook '!~Q' 'my_hdr X-Q-Status: this is not a reply'

Thanks Bob!

   3. send-hooks should be able to tell if reverse_name succeeded or
  failed.  Right now there is no way to do this short of extremely
  ugly hacks (think of reply-hook . set from=bogus)
 
   4. There should be a way to run send-hooks on ALL sent messages
  including bounced messages.  Presently no hooks run when
  a message is bounced, so you just have to get lucky with the
  folder-hook settings when you hit 'b'.


Re: Crappy mailer and Message-ID:

2007-07-13 Thread Aron Griffis
Michelle Konzack wrote:  [Fri Jul 13 2007, 12:02:41PM EDT]
 Hello Aron,
 
 Am 2007-07-13 11:46:14, schrieb Aron Griffis:
  This will be automatic for anybody using mutt if you have in your
  muttrc:
  
  set followup_to=yes # default
  subscribe mutt-users@mutt.org
  
  See http://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html#using-lists
 
 Who tell you this?
 I use mutt since ages...  nearly 8 years.

I don't understand the question.  The manual tells me this. :-)

See also http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html

  Unfortunately most MUAs don't respect these headers, but at least on
  this list it should work :-)
 
 Right, unfortunatly to muck MUAs.
 Or even the Webmailer do not respect it.
 
 I get every day those crappy CCs.
 
 Also it is realy annoying, if you want to respond fast and keep not
 attention for the To/Cc/BCc headers if people hit Group-Reply which
 will mostly end in PMs which I do not realy like to send.

IMHO it's probably better to get used to it, or fight it by technical
means, than to bother with large banners in your mail.  Ultimately
asking everybody who sends you mail to respect this-or-that-request is
going to fail...  *shrug*

Aron


send-hook for replying to mailing lists

2007-07-13 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hi Mutt users

For mailing list I use an email address different from my private
mail. To automatically use the correct from-header I inserted the
following send-hook to my .muttrc:

send-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # private mail
send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'my_hdr From: Sven Bretfeld
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

I works will when I compose an original posting. But fails most of the
time when I reply using group reply. When it works Mutt asks me if I
want to reply to the mailing list, puts the list's address to the
To-header and creater the correct from-header.

When it fails, Mutt doesn't even ask me if I want to reply to the
list, but inserts the personal address of the original posting in the
To-header, the list's address in the CC, and my private Email address
in the the From-header.

What have I done wrong?

Thank you very much for help.

Sven


Re: send-hook for replying to mailing lists

2007-07-13 Thread Jerry Walker
Hi Sven,

On Fri 13 Jul 2007 22:12, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
 send-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # private mail
 send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'my_hdr From: Sven Bretfeld
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

try send-hook ~l my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That should match any mailing list you've told Mutt about using
subscribe or lists.

Cheers,

Jerry.


Re: send-hook for replying to mailing lists

2007-07-13 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hello Jerry

On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 09:27:59PM +0100, Jerry Walker wrote:

 try send-hook ~l my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's it. Thank you very much.

Bye,

Sven