Re: List-Reply vs. Reply

2012-01-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Patrick Shanahan,

Am 2012-01-14 14:34:55, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Sometime in the recent past, maybe several months, I find that when trying
> to "Reply" to the poster in list mail rather than to the list, mutt replys
> to the list.  "R" and "L" seem to function the same for lists where I am
> subscribed.  The only way w/o directly entering the addressee to "Reply"
> to the individual is to use "G"roup and delete the cc: address.

This happen, when the List-Admin has set Reply-To:

> What has changed recently that would cause this or conversly what might I
> have wrongly changed?

You have to use:

 set ignore_list_reply_to=yes

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Re: Get Mutt and ISPs

2012-07-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Dave,

Am 2012-07-11 22:00:00, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> So what changes need to be made to .muttrc to get mutt to send
> email to my isp?

In your .muttrc:

set sendmail="/usr/bin/sendmail"

(sendmail is a symlink to msmtp)

and for msmtp you should read

man msmtp

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Re: OT: tool/sw for syntax check of mail addr (RFC 3696)

2012-07-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Matthias Apitz,

Am 2012-07-16 14:06:49, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Do we have anything in mutt which I could use to do a syntax check of
> mail addrs as described in RFC 3696 (...)? Or are there any pointers to
> such a tool, for C or Java? Thanks in advance

Hehehe, currently I have not found a singel tool which  does  the  check
perfect, becaue the following mail ist 100% valid:

a~`*&^$_-={}'?b...@tamay-dogan.net

which is an alias to my standard E-Mail.  :-D

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Re: OT: tool/sw for syntax check of mail addr (RFC 3696)

2012-07-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Derek Martin,

Am 2012-07-17 10:40:14, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 03:55:28PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > a~`*&^$_-={}'?b...@tamay-dogan.net
> > 
> > which is an alias to my standard E-Mail.  :-D
> 
> But, Michelle...  Why?! =8^)

Just for fun...  However, spamers have there problem with it...  :-D

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mutt does not more purge deleted messages

2016-01-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good evening,

I do not know, what I have done, but since arround 6  hours,  mutt  does
not purge deleted messages IF I access a "Maildir" localy without IMAP!

set delete=ask-yes

is unchanged for ages and it works perfectly with GMail my Intranet- and
public Mail-Server.

"$" does not work anymore for local directories...

Any suggestions what I could have doen wrong?

Note:   I accidentally deleted a backup of mu ~/.mutt/ folder,
hence no recovery possibel.

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Re: mutt does not more purge deleted messages

2016-01-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good day Jostein,

On 2016-01-29 00:31:16 Jostein Berntsen hacked into the keyboard:
> Have some updates happened on your system recently? Some things to
> check:

No

> - Do you use mutt with the trash patch?
> http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash

You mean

> - Upgrade mutt to v. 1.5.23 to get a version with man bug fixes

I am currently bound to Debian Wheeze 7.8 because the shit with  systemd
which does not work for me.

I will try to get/make a backport

> - Restart your mail server?

Purging of deleted message is working wit GMail and my  intranet  server
(courier) but NOT, if I access a private Maildir local without IMAP.

> - Check your system/mail logs if anything happened around 6 hours ago

Nothing, but I have edited something in my mutt configs and  now  it  is
not more working.  Anything is working fine with IMAP, so I did not care
but then I discovered the problem with the direct  (file)  access  to  a
Maildir.

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Re: specify time at which mutt sends a precomposed mail?

2016-02-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Peter,

On 2016-02-03 11:52:22 Peter P. hacked into the keyboard:
> I am wondering if there is any way during message composition in mutt to
> specify at which time (eg. 3pm, 10mins later,...) at which an email will
> actually be sent by mutt to the sendmail command? I would like to
> draft emails but have them sent out at a later time automatically.

I hade the need for such function many years ago...

I have installed a cron job which check  all  5 mins  a  maildir  folder
"~/Maildir/.Send_delayed/" and then send the mail according to a special
header "X-Send-delayed:" and  after  success,  the  mails  is  moved  to
"~/Maildir/.Send/".

It is easy to do and work with Maildir on a file system direct, however,
I use it also on my Courier IMAP server

> Thanks for all ideas!
> Peter

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Re: List reply + group reply combined

2016-02-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
On 2016-02-04 11:34:49 Ben Boeckel hacked into the keyboard:
> On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 23:22:53 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > The group of list members who are listed CC recipients who "might be
> > interested in this", receive individual "courtesy copies" in addition to
> > the list copy, which is often more than they want, as it is.¹
> 
> Mailman has an option to not send you the list copy if you're on the CC
> list.

Which break "Reply-to-List" because your
"Cc:" has not the List-Header anymore...

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Re: mutt does not more purge deleted messages

2016-02-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good day,

On 2016-01-29 00:31:16 Jostein Berntsen hacked into the keyboard:
> - Do you use mutt with the trash patch?
> http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash

The output of mutt shows:

[ command 'mutt -v' ]---
Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins und andere.
Mutt übernimmt KEINERLEI GEWÄHRLEISTUNG. Starten Sie »mutt -vv«, um
weitere Details darüber zu erfahren. Mutt ist freie Software. 
Sie können es unter bestimmten Bedingungen weitergeben; starten Sie
»mutt -vv« für weitere Details.

System: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (x86_64)
ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9)
libidn: 1.25 (compiled with 1.25)
hcache backend: tokyocabinet 1.4.47
Einstellungen bei der Compilierung:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK   
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  +USE_SMTP  
-USE_SSL_OPENSSL  +USE_SSL_GNUTLS  +USE_SASL  +USE_GSS  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME  +CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +COMPRESSED  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET 
 +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE  
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
MIXMASTER="mixmaster"
Um die Entwickler zu kontaktieren, schicken Sie bitte
eine Nachricht (auf Englisch) an .
Um einen Fehler zu melden, besuchen Sie bitte http://bugs.mutt.org/.

misc/am-maintainer-mode
features/ifdef
features/xtitles
features/trash-folder

But this would mean, mutt move the messages to another folder right?
This is not desired.  However, if I change the folder,  I  see  mutt
say "deleting NN messages"...  but nothing happen.

features/purge-message

Can it be, that this is faulty?

features/imap_fast_trash
features/sensible_browser_position
features-old/patch-1.5.4.vk.pgp_verbose_mime
features/compressed-folders
features/compressed-folders.debian
debian-specific/Muttrc
debian-specific/Md.etc_mailname_gethostbyname.diff
debian-specific/use_usr_bin_editor.diff
debian-specific/correct_docdir_in_man_page.diff
debian-specific/dont_document_not_present_features.diff
debian-specific/document_debian_defaults
debian-specific/assumed_charset-compat
debian-specific/467432-write_bcc.patch
debian-specific/566076-build_doc_adjustments.patch
misc/define-pgp_getkeys_command.diff
misc/gpg.rc-paths
misc/smime.rc
upstream/531430-imapuser.patch
upstream/537818-emptycharset.patch
upstream/543467-thread-segfault.patch
upstream/542817-smimekeys-tmpdir.patch
upstream/548577-gpgme-1.2.patch
upstream/553321-ansi-escape-segfault.patch
upstream/568295-references.patch
upstream/547980-smime_keys-chaining.patch
upstream/528233-readonly-open.patch
upstream/228671-pipe-mime.patch
upstream/383769-score-match.patch
upstream/578087-header-strchr.patch
upstream/603288-split-fetches.patch
upstream/537061-dont-recode-saved-attachments.patch
upstream/608706-fix-spelling-errors.patch
upstream/620854-pop3-segfault.patch
upstream/611412-bts-regexp.patch
upstream/624058-gnutls-deprecated-set-priority.patch
upstream/624085-gnutls-deprecated-verify-peers.patch
upstream/584138-mx_update_context-segfault.patch
upstream/619216-gnutls-CN-validation.patch
upstream/611410-no-implicit_autoview-for-text-html.patch
upstream/path_max
upstream/CVE-2014-0467.patch
upstream/771125-CVE-2014-9116.patch
misc/579967-fixes-german-translation.patch
mutt.org


> - Upgrade mutt to v. 1.5.23 to get a version with man bug fixes

Have tried it, but there is no change...

The deleted messages stay in the box forever as "deleted"  and  are  not
purged

> - Restart your mail server?

It is a local filesystem.  GMail and my Courier-IMAP  have  no  problems
with purging deleted messages

> - Check your system/mail logs if anything happened around 6 hours ago

Nothing.  Not even an update!

> Jostein

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Can not more connect to my own mailserver...

2017-01-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

I have multiple configs which look like

[ ~/.mutt/user_linux4miche...@gmail.com.conf ]--
set my_folder="imaps://imap.gmail.com/"

set my_imap_server="gmail.com"
set my_smtp_server="smtp.gmail.com:465"

set my_user="linux4michelle"
set my_pass=""
set signature="~/.mutt/signature_linux4michelle.conf"

source ~/.mutt/config
source ~/.mutt/misc.conf
source ~/.mutt/imap.conf
source ~/.mutt/smtp.conf


[ ~/.mutt/imap.conf ]---
set imap_authenticators=""
set imap_check_subscribed=yes
set imap_delim_chars="/."
set imap_headers="DATE FROM SUBJECT TO CC MESSAGE-ID REFERENCES CONTENT-TYPE 
CONTENT-DESCRIBTION IN-REPLY-TO REPLY-TO LINES LIST-POST X-MAILINGLIST"
set imap_idle=no
set imap_keepalive=900
set imap_list_subscribed=no

set imap_passive=no
set imap_peek=yes
set imap_pipeline_depth=15
set imap_servernoise=yes

set from="$my_user@$my_imap_server"
set imap_user="$my_user@$my_imap_server"
set imap_login="$my_user@$my_imap_server"
set imap_pass="$my_pass"


[ ~/.mutt/smtp.conf ]---
# set smtp_authenticators=""
set smtp_pass="$my_pass"
set smtp_url="smtps://$my_user@$my_smtp_server"


which work properly, but if I use

[ ~/.mutt/user_catchall-tdnet.itsyst...@tamay-dogan.net.conf ]--
set my_folder="imaps://mail.tamay-dogan.net/"

set my_server="mail.tamay-dogan.net"
set my_smtp_server="mail.tamay-dogan.net"

set my_user="catchall-tdnet.itsystems"
set my_pass="#"
set signature="~/.mutt/signature.conf"

source ~/.mutt/config
source ~/.mutt/misc.conf
source ~/.mutt/imap.conf
source ~/.mutt/smtp.conf


it say "Anmeldung gescheitert" (Login unsuccessful)

I had just updated the two PEM files and added it to mutt successful.
All other Server are working but not 

How can I get more infos (errormessages) from mutt?

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Re: Holy Grail (multipart/alternative + HTML + inline images + GPG)

2017-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
On 2017-01-25 07:55:05 Patrice Levesque hacked into the keyboard:
>   - multipart/mixed
>   - multipart/alternative
>   - text/plain
>   - multipart/related
>   - text/html
>   - inline image
>   - attachments

Are you sure, you have closed every part properly?

I do some things similary, BUT I use commandline tools,  to  create  the
multipart/alternative  and  then  I  move  the  complete  file  to   the
~/Maildir/.Drafts/new/ folder, where mutt can find  it  if  I  recall  a
message.

> Any possible way to achieve that “send as is” behaviour, or do you guys
> know any patch in the wild that would allow that?

You can use sendmail or ssmtp to send the file without using mutt.
It is much easier, specially from a script.

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Re: Holy Grail (multipart/alternative + HTML + inline images + GPG)

2017-01-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
On 2017-01-26 08:24:30 Patrice Levesque hacked into the keyboard:
> I'm happy it seems to work for you, and that the problem's probably in
> my chair.  Would you be kind enough to send me a direct email to
> mutt.wa...@ptaff.ca using your method? That may help me figure out
> what's so different between your mail structure and mine.

Currently not possibel, because the script is on my server @home which I
can not access trough the Internet and I work currently 600km far away.

> Just out of curiosity, when you recall the message, does the editor show
> only the text/plain part? It seems I always get an improperly unwrapped
> version of the multipart/alternative part.  And when you exit the
> editor, are you saying all MIME parts left unchanged?

I see the text/plain part only.
I can not edit the text/html part.

Ehm yes, I get all parts presented and it looks like

8<--
From: linux4michelle
To: admin
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Subject: Only a test
Reply-To: 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="All_the_parts"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit

This is a multi-part message in MIME format

--All_the_parts
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Some_text";

--Some_text
Content-Type: text/plain

Hello World!

--Some_text
Content-Type: text/html

Hello World!

--Some_text--

--All_the_parts
Content-Type: image/png; name="mutt.png"
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mutt.png"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64



--All_the_parts--

8<--

> I get that, but I'd prefer dealing with GPG inside mutt, I want to avoid
> recreating mutt's perfectly fine interface for it (selecting keys for
> instance).
> 
> 
> Thanks, and have a nice day,

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Firefox, ~/.mailcap and mutt with profile

2017-02-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good day,

I have some Firefox profiles and like to use for for them specified mutt
configs.

In my WindowManager FVWM it works since ever by using

mutt -F ~/.mutt/user_linux4miche...@gmail.com.conf

however, /etc/mailcap is setup to

message/rfc822; mutt -Rf '%s'; edit=mutt -f '%s'; needsterminal

which is simply crap, because I  use  the  courier-imap  server  without
local mailboxes, hence I have tried to use in my ~/.mailcop

message/rfc822; mutt -F ~/.mutt/user_linux4miche...@gmail.com.conf -Rf '%s'; 
edit=mutt -F ~/.mutt/user_linux4miche...@gmail.com.conf -f '%s'; needsterminal

but it is simply ignored, even if in Firefox about:config it is set to

helpers.global_mailcap.file default string  /etc/mailcap
helpers.private_mailcap.filedefault string  ~/.mailcap

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mails to lists automatically?

2017-02-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

I have my own Mailserver and sort my mails to different folders. Exactly
list mails go to the appropriated list folder and PMs stay in the  INBOX
where I decide what to do with it.

However, if I am in a List-Folder like

.ML_mail.mutt-users@mutt_org/

I like to have the default set to send to the List and not a PM.
If I press R, it should ask me if I want a PM or RTL.

How can this be archived easyly?

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Re: mails to lists automatically?

2017-02-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
On 2017-02-20 10:50:47 Jon LaBadie hacked into the keyboard:
> Something similar may already be in there, the "L" command.
> If set up, 'L' replies to the list, 'r' replies to the
> message poster.

;-)  I use mutt since 1999 and I am on more then 60 mailinglists,
which mean, I know RTL.

I do not want to use "l" if it is NOT neccesary.  If I  am  in  a
Mailing-List folder, I want to use a  Single-Key-Stroke  reply  and  not
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How to decode INLINE GPG messages?

2017-02-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I get every day GPG signed and crypted messages, but these are always as
attachment.  However, two days ago, I have gotten a message with  INLINE
crypting like

-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
Charset: windows-1252
Version: GnuPG v2

hQIMA4/WG/fTbdX8ARAAw0CwUeDUpr34bVyIdOv+S32F8sMeCogqz0VIeKe+Qaq1
,snip>
=XbKy
-END PGP MESSAGE-

and I can not open it.
I have NEVER used this inline stuff, hence my question:

How can I read it?

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Re: How to decode INLINE GPG messages?

2017-02-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
On 2017-02-22 12:58:17 Francesco Ariis hacked into the keyboard:
> Hello Michelle,
> P (check-traditional-pgp) should do the trick, but I never
> tested it. Inline messages and signatures are discouraged for a bunch
> of reasons, maybe your contact misconfigured their client.

I tried it several times and then the xterm window with mutt closes.

Now I got it,  Pressing  to long without  trigers
closing of xterm.  Do not ask why, -- I do not know!

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[WAS: Re: Can mutt prefetch mail] Your GPG signatur is wrong

2017-05-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Feng,

you should correct your GPG signature.

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Re: Mutt, NFS and errno = 31

2018-03-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

Am 2018-03-30 hackte João Oliveira in die Tasten:
>   -- Minutes later I tried to save a message in this NFS-mounted Mail
>   folder and bad things happened:
>
>  After several seconds trying to save it mutt gave "too many
>  links, errno = 31" and I was surprised to see that the folder
>  where I tried to save the message was FILLED with copies of the
>  message to be saved, hundreds of them. I tried several times,
>  same result. Operation fails, folder is awash with copies.
>
>   -- I moved back Mail from NFS to local. Everything is fine.
>
>   -- I moved Mail from local to NFS. Too many links again.
>
>   -- I blamed the MH folders for it and changed everything to Maildir.
>   Same problem again: a filled folder with 1000+ copies and errno 31.
>
>   -- I blamed the mutt version for it (1.5.x) and compiled 1.9.y. Same
>   problem again.

mutt works perfectly with NFS, but hiw did you mount it?

I use since more then 10 years following line in my /etc/fstab:

192.168.0.201:/home /home nfs
bg,intr,hard,tcp,vers=4,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,rw 0 0

> thanks for any help and hints,
>
> joao batista

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addressbook and aliasfile

2007-01-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, 

I use a small bashscript to query my PostgreSQL for addresses
but now I like to use the "add address" function from "mutt".

How must I do this?
Or better, HOW does "mutt" give the data to an address manager?

Greetings
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Re: addressbook and aliasfile

2007-01-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-16 12:31:11, schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> look at the package lbdb, especially lbdb-fetchaddr and in mutt the
> query_command (3.245. query_command).
> 
> I use:set query_command="lbdbq '%s'"  # calling lbdbq

This is for FETCHING the E-Mail from a Database.
Which I do already with "psql -c "SELECT ..."

What I need is a function to WRITE to the database instead
to the ALIAS file.


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[SOLVED] Re: Can not more connect to mailboxes WITH messages!

2007-01-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Solved...

"mutt" goes crazy if I have a header in the option
"set imap_headers" which are fetched by default!

It seems to me as a bug.

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Am 2007-01-09 10:00:54, schrieb Michelle Konzack:
> Hello and Happy new Year,
> 
> I write this message to  and  since I do not
> know where the problem is.
> 
> OK, I have a bureau which has an homogenous network and the fileserver
> has installed:
> 
> courier-imap:
>   Installed: 3.0.8-4sarge5
>   Candidate: 3.0.8-4sarge5
>   Version Table:
>  *** 3.0.8-4sarge5 0
> 500 file: sarge/main Packages
> 500 file: sarge/updates/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> and it is currently not possibel to upgrade to Etch
> 
> courier-imap:
>   Installiert:(keine)
>   Mögliche Pakete:4.1.1-3
>   Versions-Tabelle:
>  4.1.1-3 0
> 500 http://etch.debian.tdnet.net etch/main Packages
> 
> My mutt versions are:
> 
> mutt:
>   Installiert:1.5.13-1
>   Mögliche Pakete:1.5.13-1
>   Versions-Tabelle:
>  *** 1.5.13-1 0
> 500 http://etch.debian.tdnet.net etch/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> and
> 
> mutt:
>   Installed: 1.5.9-2sarge2
>   Candidate: 1.5.9-2sarge2
>   Version Table:
>  *** 1.5.9-2sarge2 0
> 500 file: sarge/main Packages
> 500 file: sarge/updates/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> Now I have tried with an older chroot of Debian/Woody
> 
> mutt:
>   Installed: 1.5.6-20040907+0.backports.org.1
>   Candidate: 1.5.6-20040907+0.backports.org.1
>   Version Table:
>  *** 1.5.6-20040907+0.backports.org.1 0
> 700 http://backports.debian.tdnet.net woody/all Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  1.3.28-2.2 0
>1000 http://woody.debian.tdnet.net woody/updates/main Packages
>1000 http://woody.debian.tdnet.net woody/main Packages
> 
> but it has the same problem.
> 
> I can connect to the Server, see the SSL/TLS requests, it connect to
> the mailbox and I see mutt the messages counting and then it stop with
> an error "Can not read mailbox".
> 
> Now if I leave it as it is, 5 minutes later mutt SEGV.
> ALL VERSIONS OF MUTT.
> 
> OK, I took my Laptop went to an internet cafe and tried to connect to
> my ISP <http://www.freenet.de> which use "courier-imap" too.
> 
> Same problem. I can not connect to ANY IMAP boxes with ANY versions of
> mutt! (My Laptop has chroots with Woody, Sarge, Etch and Sid)
> 
> Any Suggestions?
> 
> Note 1: I have copied the directory structure to a Maildir_sandbox
> without any messages and I can connect perfectly.  But if
> I put a singel message in a mailfolder, I can not more
> connect to this folder.
> 
> Note 2: My whole mailbox has currently 7.4 million messages and it
>     was working fine since years.
> 
> Greetings
> Michelle Konzack
> 
> 
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Directories not more recognized

2007-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

I have a strange error in the System and do not find the solution for it.

I am fetching E-Mails for all Intranet Users with "fetchmail" and filter
with "procmail" to ~/Maildir/INBOX... which works fine.  Even new folders
are created correctly with procmail.

Now, in mutt we configure "mailboxes" and there is a problem with:

mailboxes =INBOX \
=INBOX.Business.Société_Générale_Marocaine \
=INBOX.Business.GründerLinX

I do not know, whether Courier or Mutt (over IMAP) does not more recognize
the second and third mailfolder...

Accessing the Maildir directly over NFS is working perfectly.

Please do not suggest to use NO accents or for umlaut AE for Ä or
something like this.  It is definitivly not more possible to educate
over 17.000 Mail/IMAP Users where you use over 50 languages in the
organization.

Any suggestions?

Is it possible to use UTF-8 names for Mailfolder created by procmail and
use it from courier?

IF YES, how can I force procmail and courier to do so? 

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Re: Viewing attachments with detached process while remianing in attachments menu

2007-01-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Eric,

Why not use "metamail" in a macro and pipe the whole message to
it by detaching the whole process?

If I open a pdf attachment, my viewer "xpdf" is always detached
and i can continue reading my messages while "xpdf" stay open.

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Re: line-wraps in URLs in email

2007-01-31 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Travis,

Am 2007-01-23 18:51:48, schrieb Travis H.:
> Hey,
> 
> Does anyone have a simple fix for "unwrapping" lines so that
> urlview and the like can view them normally?

I have already posted this issue to the Debian-BTS for one or two
years and maybe it is solved in the Version of 'urlview'in Etch.

However, I use my aown script which de-mime the mails so I can
pipe it correctly to urlview.

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Re: "Mailbox is read-only.", but it isn't

2007-01-31 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-25 13:55:22, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> It's on a shell login account on a web hosting provider, it's not my
> personal system.  A 'uname -a' reports:-
> 
> Linux shell 2.4.23-grsec #1 Tue Dec 2 19:44:13 GMT 2003 i586 unknown
> 
> I think it's Debian.  The mutt is mine though.  It's not a system I

Try:   cat /etc/debian_version

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mutt does not delete TMP files

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I have found an Error in mutt while using IMAP and connecting to courier.

If I enter a Mailfolder with mails, mutt does not only fetch the desired
headers but the whole NEW messages...

And more, while using imap. mut does not more respect $TMP, $TMPDIR,
$TEMP or $TEMPDIR and write to /tmp thousands of files...
   ...and does not delete it!

I have encountered the problem as mutt was not more able to save messages
because I hit the "out of inode" problem (arround 38.000)

I use Debian Sarge/Etch/Sid and the versions 1.5.9 and 1.5.13

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Re: Old e-mails behaving as new

2007-02-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-04 16:51:46, schrieb Stuart McKim:
> I just changed my version of mutt from 1.5.9i to 1.5.13 and am
> experiencing some behavior that seems very weird to me.

Hey, I am experiencein the problem on both and courier-imap!
(Using Debian GNU/Linux Sarge and Etch)

> When I start mutt and log into my imap server, all the mailboxes defined
> in my .muttrc are shown as having new mail. When I open those mailboxes,
> the only specially marked e-mails are ones marked as old, with an "O".
> There are no e-mails marked with an "N".

Here is it more weird since if I login, and procmail has sorted some
messages to "/new" subdir of my maildir, mutt will detect the messages
and if I enter the Mailfolder with mutt. it move it IMMEDIATLY to "/cur"
ecen if I do not read the messages.

Then if I leave the folder and try to walk with c throuh the defined
mailboxes, the NEM messages are not more there and detected...

This is realy annoying, since all is working fine if I enter the Maildir
over NFS, hey, and it move the unread messages (OLD) back to the /new
directory...

> In the old version of mutt, these mailboxes would not have been detected
> as having new mail. This made more sense, since I already opened that
> mailbox since those e-mails had been received.

I do not use this option...
Unread messages are always marked as NEW up to the time I have REALY read,
or makred as READ, it.
 
> My .muttrc did not change. The imap server is using Maildirs; I don't
> know if that makes any difference, it always has used Maildirs.

Here the same.

My courier-imap is

courier-imap:
  Installed: 4.1.1-3
  Candidate: 4.1.1-3
  Version table:
 *** 4.1.1-3 0
500 file: etch/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

> Did something change that would have caused this? The behavior is quite
> annoying since I have a lot of mailboxes. Is there an option to make
> mutt behave differently?

I have arround 2130...
Including a 1200 Directory big Debian-PTS.

> Any advice would be appreciated.

Me too!

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Re: mutt does not delete TMP files

2007-02-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi

Am 2007-02-06 14:07:36, schrieb Nick Hastings:
> Hi,
> 
> * Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070206 01:20]:
> > If I enter a Mailfolder with mails, mutt does not only fetch the desired
> > headers but the whole NEW messages...
> 
> Sorry, I can't help but I can let you know that you aren't alone: I see
> the exact same thing.
> 
> Anyone know what is going on here?

Shi...

> > And more, while using imap. mut does not more respect $TMP, $TMPDIR,
> > $TEMP or $TEMPDIR and write to /tmp thousands of files...
> >...and does not delete it!
> 
> I think you need to define it in your .muttrc Eg.
> set tmpdir="~/.tmp"

It is, but then it is unset...
And NO, I do not set tmpdir in hooks or such...


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Re: mutt does not delete TMP files

2007-02-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-06 11:07:40, schrieb Thomas Roessler:
> This sounds like the body cache is in effect...  To set the
> directory where the files go, configure message_cachedir.

This option does not exist in 1.5.9 and this weird behaviour is
since I was switching from 1.5.6 (under Woody) to 1.5.9 (Sarge).

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Re: Old e-mails behaving as new

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-10 15:42:38, schrieb Travis H.:
> There is no "old" directory.  There is new, cur, and tmp.  This has
> very little to do with whether the email is marked "new" (unseen).

OK, if I am local on the machine, mutt move all NEW message which
are previosly moved by IMAP from /new to /cur back to /new...

I find this realy anoying...  specialy if mutt move several 1000
messages and you must check the Directory several times per day.

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macro problem

2007-03-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I have:

[ '/home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/macros' ]--
macro index \cb "|urlview\n"
macro index \cf ':`tdmuttsettings --display-filter`'"\n"
macro index \cm ':`tdmuttmailboxes`'"\n"
---

The two first are working where the output of "tdmuttsettings" is

   set display_filter=

but the third one does not work.  It is still ignored and ^M is
"next_line" and I can not redefine it.  How can this be?

Then, if I use \cf for the third one it is working and it output
correctly

source /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/tdmuttmailboxes_...

(I have splited my "mailboxes" since over imap it is impossibel to
whatch 2300 at once)

Now there is a problem, since if I call ^M it ADD new mailboxes to
the list which is non-desirable.  So I have tried:

macro index \cf ':unmailboxes *:`tdmuttmailboxes`'"\n"

but it seems not to work.  Where is the missing point?


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macro is only half executed

2007-03-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I have create a little script which let me choose from different
predefined "mailboxes" files.  I call it with a macro from:

[ '/home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/macros' ]--

macro generic \cf ':`tdmuttsettings --set --macro`'"\n"
macro index   \cf ':`tdmuttsettings --set --macro`'"\n"
macro pager   \cf ':`tdmuttsettings --set --macro`'"\n"
---

which is working correctly and it output:

source 

Unfortunatly, with each call it ADD new "mailboxes", which mean I have
to "unmailboxes" it before.  But crap, it is not working:

  ':unmailboxes *\n:`tdmuttsettings --set --macro`'"\n"
  ':unmailboxes *:`tdmuttsettings --set --macro`'"\n"

Itr execute only the first command and then nothing anymore.

Any hints?

Oh, I have tried tonns of other versions too...

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Re: How to send PGP-encrypted mail non-interactively?

2007-05-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-10 16:58:12, schrieb Darrin Chandler:
> For the archives, I've got a method working well, though it's not very
> elegant. Here's what I've got going, in a shell snippet:

Why do you use mutt-monster to send such messages?

> --
> gpg --encrypt --armor --output foo.pgp $RECIPIENT < foo
> echo encrypted stuff attached | mutt -s Subject -a foo.pgp $RECIPIENT
> --


8<-
sendmail -t <
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1234567890"
Content-Disposition: inline

--1234567890
$(cat foo.pgp)
--1234567890--
EOF
8<-

which works times faster then calling a full blown mutt and specialy if
you uses somehing lime ssmtp.

Note: I send per day nearly 37.000 messages of this kind from my server
  to the emplye of the french "Ministry of Defense" for which I am
  working.

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Re: Best way to handle DOS newlines

2007-05-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-07 17:59:43, schrieb Ray Van Dolson:
> I occasionally get emails generated from a web application here at work
> that uses DOS/Windows newlines instead of Unix ones.  All the text
> shows up as one large line interspersed with ^M^M's.  I'd like to
> figure out a good way to:
> 
>   1. Correct this in the pager view of the message.
>   2. Correct this prior to the message being passed to my editor (vim)
>  for quoting.
> 
> Currently I am resolving 1 by using the following message-hook:
> 
>   message-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set display_filter="sed -f 
> ~/bin/fix_m.sed"'

Why not use:  set display_filter="/usr/bin/dos2unix"

> Where fix_m.sed strips out the ^M's and replaces them with my preferred
> newlines.
> 
> However, if I hit reply to this message, everything shows up in vim in
> the original format -- ie with the ^M's all intact and everything on
> one line.
> 
> I can correct this from wtihin vim, but I'd prefer it all be automated.

How do you get your E-Mails?

Do you use "procmail"?

Since I am on mailinglists which support Linux AND WINDOWS, I get this
^M regulary...
...and use:



# FLT_dos_coded
########
:0 fw
* ^1^ \r\n
* ? which dos2unix >/dev/null 2>&1
|/usr/bin/dos2unix



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Re: Folder Format for my setup

2007-05-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-09 21:40:23, schrieb Cleverson:
> I've just installed Gentoo Linux and now I intend to setup a mail system 
> with Mutt. My CPU is an AMD Sempron 1500 mhz, 256 RAM. My filesystem is 
> ReiserFS 3.6.

> Is it true that Maildir has better performance while loading folders? And 

Yes. And it is realy cool, if you need to modify or parse messages outside
of a MUA from, a script...

> about file corruption consequences for each one?

ReiserFS with ZERO your file on corruption which is realy bad for mbox.
You may encounter file locking problems IF YOU must access the Mailfolder
over NFS if using mbox (they are read-only).

So I go for Maildir which had no problems since ages and gaved me no
problems while migration to courier-imap.

Also is Maildir better, if you need daily incremental backups...
I run 4 incremental backups per day!  With Mailboxes impossibel since
this would backup over 400 GByte all 6 hours insteed of 10 MByte.

My FileServer @home stores 5850 Mailfolders (including -MM archives
of over 150 Mailinglists from the last 8 years) with OVER 7.55 million
messages...  Try to make an incremental backup of this!
You will shoot you.

> Many thanks
> 
> Cleverson

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Re: message dates

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-15 19:35:13, schrieb Fintan Gaughan:
> so I fired off email with the words unsubscribe to which i should
> receive instruction on how to unsubscribe. that tells me that mailman
> not configured that way.

Most Mailinglist software support following construct:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Subject:  unsubscribe

Have you tried it?

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Re: message dates

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-16 21:21:34, schrieb Derek Martin:
> A few facts:
> 
> 1. At one point my mail server was receiving more than 1000 spam
> messages per day to my various personal accounts.

And? - Depending of the Day-Of-Week I get between 400 amd 38.000 spams.

> 2. The single largest (though indirect) source of that spam was
> mailing list traffic.  The vast majority of the spam in question was
> sent to addresses I used on public mailing lists.  The addresses in
> question were only ever used for mailing list posts, so the method of
> harvesting those addresses is not in question: they were culled from
> the mailing list posts.  It is the only possibility.

Why not create a procmail/maildrop rume, which let only Messages from
mailinglists going in without filtering and the rest goes trough a
whitelist filter which can automaticaly updated using the Mailinglist?

I have whitelisted ALL members of this list since years and
NEVER gotten a spam with am E-Mail address from those members.

> 3. I do not believe in spam filters; they require that I assume risk
> (however small it may be with modern filtering software) that a
> legitimate personal mail might be sent to the abyss.  The risk can be
> mitigated only by saving questionable messages into a folder for
> review, which I would be forced to spend time reviewing, which I don't
> want to do.  And even then, there is still some degree of risk that
> I'll miss an important personal message.  No matter how good filtering
> software has gotten, there is always at least some risk of this.

Over the aears I have nearly 48.000 E-Mails auto whitelistet which
was realy no problem...  All mailinglist mempers, friends and family
can send me messages whitout beeing filtered or trashed

This is realy more serieux.

And, I do not bother ANY senders with Challenge Reponses!!!
(I get from others per month OVER 8000 of them)

> 4. Since adopting my new method of spam management (now some 5+ years
> old, if I'm not mistaken), I receive at most a total of about *3 spams
> per day* to all my personal e-mail addresses combined, *completely
> unfiltered* for spam.

Sorry, but HOW can anyone of us send you a PM if it is important?

> Someone needs to write an anonymizing mailing list management software
> package which NEVER includes anything that matches a legal e-mail
> address--perhaps unless it is specially quoted to allow it to be

But this mean, the Mailinglist-System will be DOSed from Spamers!
AND, - The filters in the Mailinglist-Server must be very strong!

Do you know, HOW MANY spams  is filtering daily?
Several 100.000 which would be multiplied by several 10.000 users.

> posted--but allows subscribed users to either reply privately or to

Sorry, but if Webspider get NORMAL-E-Mails whay hould they stop before
anonymized E-Mails since you will get the spam anyway forwarded.

> the list by keeping track of who sent what messages, and acting as an
> anonymizing proxy.  Alternately, the list management software would
> have to compare any e-mail regex matches to its data store of
> subscribed users, and sanitize any matches.  THEN, you'd need to
> convince the list admins of all the mailing lists I care about to
> start using that software.

Blah-Blah-Dream!

> Also, I do regrettably maintain a "public" address out of necessity on
> account of my participation in various OSS projects and certain
> mailing lists where it is difficult or undesireable to remain
> anonymous (from a contact perspective), which *is* heavily filtered --
> but I don't particularly care if I miss mail sent there, since people
> I care about know how to contact me reliably.  While I haven't tried
> it recently, I've no doubt that this address can easily be obtained by
> merely sticking my name in google and looking through a couple of
> entries that come up.  I doubt you'll even need to click on the
> links... just look at the search results, and it'll probably be in one
> of them.

If your E-Mail is available form Google, what you make you
thinking, that using a fake-E-Mail on this list, which is
definitivly subscriber only will you protect from anything?

Spamers ARE using Webspyders to get E-Mails!

So I can not believe, you get only 3 Spams per day unfiltered.

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Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-17 17:18:24, schrieb Derek Martin:
> Which is highly annoying for people who legitimately want to send you
> mail, but aren't already whitelisted.  I personally hate it, and
> refuse to subject people I know to such irritation.

!!! THIS LIST IS SUBSCRIBER ONLY !!!

So you can grek your mailbox and create a whitelist of the From: header.
I do this since years!!!  And it works perfectly!

No need to bother peoples with Challenge Reponses.

> You will note that such reply-to already exists, and has for a rather
> long time...  :)

I seems not to work for me...

If I hit "r" I have your "invalid" E-Mail address.

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Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-17 20:45:54, schrieb Derek Martin:
> that's true, I am arrogant.  But I'm also right.  My methods minimize
> the time spent reviewing unwanted mail, while also GUARANTEEING ZERO
> LOST MAIL WITH 100% CERTAINTY.  No other anti-spam methodology can do

This is not right, since IF someone want to send you quickly a message
YOU LOST THIS MESSAGE and OFFEND THE SENDER!  --  You lost!

If someone do this with me, I blacklist the person and will not more
respond to him/her in the future.

Since I am Debian GNU/Linux Consultant, methods like yours are annoying
and all other them serieuse.  I would never bother peoples with such BS.

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Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-17 20:24:11, schrieb Derek Martin:
> *want*, or possibly even mail from people I know who maintain their
> own mail server, but aren't so good at configuring it.  You usually

This is BS (bullshit) since all queuing MTA's know about
"temporary unavaillable" ant try to resend the messages
some minutes later.

courier-mta, exim or postfix do not need to be configured
for this kind of action. --  They do it by default.

Even WINDOWS (!!!) Mail-Server do this.
 
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Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hey Derek,

I hit List-Reply and...

Why do you have setup a Mail-Followup-To: for Darrin?
He has not requested to do this and I do not want to
bother him with such unrequested BS.

Please stop it!

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Re: off-topic posting (was OT: offending sig + headers)

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
*
* Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here.*
* Keine Cc: an mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe.   *
* Ne me mettez pas en Cc:, je suis sur CETTE liste, si j'ecris ici. *
*

Am 2007-05-19 17:11:46, schrieb Rado S:
> - Publicly posed requests deserve public responses, sending private
>   responses is offending.

It depends, since sometime responses are OFF-TOPIC
and should be answered OFF-LIST per PM.

> - There is no need for private contact as long as the member doesn't
>   harm the functionality of the public service or its members.
>   If there are personal complaints worth doing something about
>   it, then inspecting a "how to contact privately" won't kill
>   your intention, and then do it off-list.
>   If that fails, contact the list-owner for help.
>   Using an invalid/ blackholed personal addr is _not_ harmful
>   for the purpose of the mailing list.

This IS YOUR opinion!

If you have ONLY MAIL-ACCESS and now Web-Access like me over my GSM-
Provider, you are fucked!  (I can not get ADSL or POT where I live)

> - While Derek over-reacted and before it was his turn, I ask
>   everyone who _starts_ off-topic requests to put an
>   invitation on a topical list for interested parties to come
>   over to mutt-ot and set appropriate MFT+RT headers.
>   Derek just made things worse where others failed at first,
>   it wasn't a single person's fault when things went bad.

Since I do not want to be spamed from  I am not subscribed and
my first answer to your message was rejected.  So I send to .

> - There are on-topic places to discuss what is off-topic for mutt-
>   related places. You have mutt-ot as a _convenience offer_
>   not to have to search for the proper on-topic places.
>   Using it doesn't cost you much but helps reducing spam for
>   everyone else.
>   If interested parties don't want to follow, they aren't
>   interested enough, and non-interested parties shouldn't be
>   spammed for their short-comming.
>   (not all have broadband + flatrates, yet)

You have samed me with a Mail on which I can not respond.
This OFFEND me!

> - everyone else: Derek has made up his mind and decided the best way
>   for him without harming anyone else: it may be inconvenient
>   that you can't simply hit 'r' to send him a private msg for
>   a _public request_, but there is no requirement for it, as
>   long as you can reach him at reasonable time.

It cost me money IF I WANT TO CONTACT HIM privately...
(E-Mail is free for me, but Web-Searches and such are not)

> As much as fighting spam asks for non-traditional ways of dealing
> with it, so does ML/OT handling.  Don't become a spammer yourself.

I hate spamers and I hate peoples like Derek.  If I send a message
I get every time from stupid peoples like him tonns of SPAM back.
This IS OFFENDING!

> All of you please think before you post, and use mutt-ot where it
> applies. I don't mean to kill creative and interesting discussions

And WHY should I subscribe to a Spam-List for Topics,
I am not interested in?

> or simple administrative meta discussions about the lists. I just
> ask you not to annoy (==spam) those not interested in this, since
> they haven't asked for it.

I have NOT ASK for a message coming from 
ON WHICH I CAN NOT RESPOND!  --  You have spamed me!

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Re: Best way to handle DOS newlines

2007-05-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-25 14:36:09, schrieb Wilkinson, Alex:
> 0n Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:54:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: 
> 
> >
> ># FLT_dos_coded
> >
> >:0 fw
> >* ^1^ 
> 
> >* ? which dos2unix >/dev/null 2>&1
> >|/usr/bin/dos2unix
> 
> Michelle,
> 
> Can you please interpret the following line in English for me:
> 
>* ^1^ 

This is calles procmail scoring technology and it returns true if
you have Dos-Linebreaks in the body of your message.

But it seems, your MTA/MUA has eaten the rn

It should be

:0 fw
* ^1^ \r\n
* ? which dos2unix >/dev/null 2>&1
|/usr/bin/dos2unix

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Re: random ideas - storing mutt settings on imap server

2007-07-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Christian,

Am 2007-06-19 20:32:11, schrieb Christian Brabandt:
> There even exist Protocols that would specify such things. I
> believe these are ACAP and IMSP. But aside from Mulberry which
> seems to support such extensions, I don't think that mutt supports it
> currently. I would definitly like such support.

Do you have more infos about ACAP and IMSP? RFC's or such?

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Re: change mailbox focus

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-09 20:38:33, schrieb John K Masters:
> I am running mutt 1.5.13 on my desktop and 1.5.16 on my laptop. Mail is
> fetched from various sources to the desktop via getmail and delivered to
> appropriate folders (or /dev/null) via procmail. My laptop is setup to
> access mail from my desktop box via NFS when connected and the config
> files are the same apart from /home being replaced by /mnt/home on the
> laptop .muttrc
> 
> When changing folders on my desktop the highlighted folder always
> defaults to the top folder; ie first in alphabetical order. On the
> laptop however, it always defaults to the last folder accessed. 
> 
> Is this a new feature in 1.5.16? Can it be changed in 1.5.13 .muttrc?

It has something to do with your LOCALE settings.

I have the same issue with my Workstation (de_DE.UTF-8) and
Develstation (Xen instances with Unstable, Testing, Stable
and OldStable, where I can switch locales).

Maybe you create a wraper script which enforce mutt to run
with a fixes locale?

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Crappy mailer and Message-ID:

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack

#  ATTENTION:  I am currently NOT in Strasbourg because#
#  haveing the last 4 weeks of my military #
#  service and can not reply in short delays.  #


*
* Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here.*
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* Ne me mettez pas en Cc:, je suis sur CETTE liste, si j'ecris ici. *
*

Hello *,

I get messages over Mailinglists which break all the times threads and 
I like mutt "^6" feature to repare it.  :-)

However, I het tonns of messages which HAVE a Message-ID: header but can
not repared becase they are broken.

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I like to see mutt MORE failure redunant by aception the above one and
NOT ONLY

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

which is the right RFC thing  (the <> around the ID).

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Re: Crappy mailer and Message-ID:

2007-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Aron,

Am 2007-07-13 11:46:14, schrieb Aron Griffis:
> This will be automatic for anybody using mutt if you have in your
> muttrc:
> 
> set followup_to=yes # default
> subscribe mutt-users@mutt.org
> 
> See http://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html#using-lists

Who tell you this?

I use mutt since ages...  nearly 8 years.

> Unfortunately most MUAs don't respect these headers, but at least on
> this list it should work :-)

Right, unfortunatly to muck MUAs.
Or even the Webmailer do not respect it.

I get every day those crappy CCs.

Also it is realy annoying, if you want to respond fast and keep not
attention for the To/Cc/BCc headers if people hit Group-Reply which
will mostly end in PMs which I do not realy like to send.

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Re: random ideas - storing mutt settings on imap server

2007-07-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Christian,

Am 2007-07-11 20:00:02, schrieb Christian Brabandt:
> Hi Michelle!
> 
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> > Do you have more infos about ACAP and IMSP? RFC's or such?
> 
> No, a quick google search revealed RFC2244 and RFC2245 for ACAP and an
> internet draft for IMSP: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/rfc/imsp.html

Thanks for the info.  I will look into it.

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Re: How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
##
   ATTENTION  ATTENTION  ATTENTION  ATTENTION  ATTENTION  ATTENTION
   I am currently NOT in Strasbourg because I have the last
   17 days of my military service and can not reply in short delays.
##


Am 2007-07-11 17:03:23, schrieb Kai Grossjohann:
> Thank you for all your suggestions how I might achieve the old behavior
> with Mutt that I had with Gnus.  They are very useful.  But it's not
> what I was looking for, that would be continuing war^H^H^HGnus with
> other means.
> 
> What I'm looking for is some suggestions on how else I might organize my
> mail, that fits more with what Mutt offers.  I think most of you face
> the same basic situation as I do:
> 
>   - Receive personal mail and mailing list mail.

"fetchmail" or "getmail"

>   - Have different strategies for handling mail depending on the address
> they were sent to (some mailing lists are less important than most
> personal mail, so we don't check for new mail there as often).

"procmail" or "maildrop"

>   - Want to archive a large portion of mail.

"archivemail"

>   - Want to have an overview of messages that still need action of some
> type.

???

>   - Don't want the archive to interfere (too much) with this overview.

???

> Right?  So what do you do?

...its up to you.  :-)

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Re: How to organize mail in folders?

2007-07-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-07-20 15:33:37, schrieb Kai Grossjohann:
> (I do not follow the above strategy, if that matters.  Maybe I should.
> Or maybe you have a better strategy?)
> 
> On to the details of your message:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 07:26:31PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2007-07-11 17:03:23, schrieb Kai Grossjohann:
> > >   - Receive personal mail and mailing list mail.
> > 
> > "fetchmail" or "getmail"
> 
> Those do not know the difference between personal mail and mailing list
> mail, I think.

It fetch the Mail form your ISP mailserver ans pass it to an MDA

> > >   - Have different strategies for handling mail depending on the address
> > > they were sent to (some mailing lists are less important than most
> > > personal mail, so we don't check for new mail there as often).
> > 
> > "procmail" or "maildrop"
> 
> Those do not check whether new mail is available that needs to be
> processed.

Hre you can set Recipes which do the stuff or invoke external
programs which check it from a database or such...

> > >   - Want to archive a large portion of mail.
> > 
> > "archivemail"
> 
> This is a good hint.  Thanks a lot!

OK

> > >   - Want to have an overview of messages that still need action of some
> > > type.
> > 
> > ???
> 
> I get a message.  It could be something I read and then delete.  Or it
> could be something that I read and then archive.  Or I respond right
> away and then delete or archive.
> 
> These cases are easy.
> 
> Then there are messages that mean I need to do something, but I need
> longer to do them.  Or I need to get feedback from somewhere.  Or
> whatever.  My memory is quite bad, so I like to have the computer store
> a list of these open ends so I don't have to remember them.

I would do this from a script and a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which let you set flags and such...

I do this too since I have some realy comples situation with some customers
but coded the whole stuff to my needs...  And yes, I was coding/testing over
3 weeks but since 4 years it save me the day...

> > >   - Don't want the archive to interfere (too much) with this overview.
> > 
> > ???
> 
> Suppose I have a folder for the foo project.  Then which of the messages
> in that folder are open ends that still need action, and which of them
> are archived messages?

You can FLAG messages in "mutt" OR, if you can code stuff, make a script
with a dialog where aou can set FLAGS and notes and then let a cronjob
do the rest.

Please note, if you want to do individual message threating you need
definitivly Maildir folders.  (my system must handel per day over 8000
messages automaticaly and I realy do not want to handel this by hand,
once for a new unhanled stuff is enough and then it must go magicaly...)

> > > Right?  So what do you do?
> > 
> > ...its up to you.  :-)
> 
> I hope that what _you_ do is not up to _me_.

:-)

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Re: save-message from a reply-hook

2007-08-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Martin,

What about:

reply-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' \
   'my_hdr Fcc: =.Peoples.Michelle_K/'

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Re: GPG Signing based on recipient

2007-08-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Kyle,

Am 2007-08-13 09:58:37, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> What you need to do is separate them into different send-hooks, like 
> so:
> 
> send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr From: Test Account <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>'
> send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set pgp_sign_as=98765432198765432'
> 
> Unfortunately, you can't have a single send-hook execute multiple 
> commands.

Excuise me if I sit on my line but I have:

[ '~/.mutt/hook-send' ]-

send-hook . ''

send-hook '~t (delorie.com\|watt-32\|alleg-main)' \
  'source ~/.mutt/headers; \
   my_hdr From: Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; \
   my_hdr X-Uptime: `uptime`; \
   my_hdr X-Homepage-4: http://freenet-homepage.de/dos4michelle/; \
   my_hdr Fcc: =.ML_devel/; \
   set pgp_autosign=yes; \
   set pgp_sign_as="0xE8C09D5A"; \
   set edit_headers=yes; \
   set signature=~/.signatures/rotate.txt'

send-hook '~t (lists.debian.org)' \
  'source ~/.mutt/headers; \
   my_hdr From: Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; \
   my_hdr X-Uptime: `uptime`; \
   my_hdr X-Homepage-2: http://freenet-homepage.de/linux4michelle/; \
   my_hdr Fcc: =.ML_debian/; \
   set pgp_autosign=yes; \
   set pgp_sign_as="0xC492F812"; \
   set edit_headers=yes; \
   set signature=~/.signatures/debian_lists.txt'


...and the multiple commands are working fine.

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Re: CC'ing list people but not getting CC'd?

2007-08-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-08-18 02:02:35, schrieb Kai Grossjohann:
> Which email client does he use?  He claims that MFT is used for
> replies,
> but the name suggests that it should be used for followups, not
> replies.

And whats the difference?

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Re: Content-Length: and Lines: headers

2007-08-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-08-18 18:38:39, schrieb Jon:
> Hi,
> 
> I've noticed that whenever Mutt writes out a message (e.g. when saving a 
> message to another directory) it adds a Content-Length: header to the 
> output, and sometimes a Lines: header as well.
> 
> Can I turn this behaviour off? AFAICT these headers are just some hacks 
> for mbox files, but I only use Maildirs.
> 
> I'm using Mutt from Debian testing.

With an IMAP server?

It is NOT "mutt" which add this headers since I do not have it...

Oh, I am using courier-imap but is it possible you are
running "dovecot" which can handel MAILDIR AND MBOX?

Then you have the guilty...

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Force mutt to send base64 instead of quoted-printable?

2007-08-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I have an automated software which can not handel quoted printable and
the body if "utf-8".  I need to send the stuff in "8bit" (prefered) or
"base64".

Is there a possibility to enforce this?

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Re: mutt command line with gpg

2007-08-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-08-22 16:19:38, schrieb Meenal Pant:
> Hello,
> I want to use mutt as a command inside a script and therefore I don't
> want to  run mutt  interactively.
> To achieve this, I use:
> $> mutt -F ./.muttrc -s "Hello" -i ../text.txt   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  and get the desired result.
> My problem occurs when I use GnuPG and want to sign the message. I use 
> set pgp_autosign=yes and define the signature key,  set
> pgp_sign_as=0x127533B2 in .muttrc
> The message does not appear signed to the recipient. However when I use
> the same command without  message appears signed.  Please help me fix this issue. Thanks
> 
> Also is their a way to encrypt and sign using GnuPG and Mutt via command
> line ?

It does not work, since mutt/gpg is waiting for the pass phrase...
To avoid this, you can use the "gpg-agent"

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-gzip64

2007-08-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

for some days I have gotten a message which showed me:

8<--
[-- Anhang #2: EvwmEvent.strace --]
[-- Typ: text/Plain, Kodierung: x-unknown, Gr¶Ãe: 2,0K --]

H4sIA8yZbW+iShTH32+y32HiK92wOk88vfAmpsW9Zls1au9tszYGcGy9q2AAW3

8<--

Which was not realy funny since it was send as:

8<--
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-gzip64
Content-Disposition: inline; filename="EvwmEvent.strace"
8<--

So, my question is, how can I handel this "Content-Transfer-Encoding:"
whiting mutt?

Currently I am using a procmail recipe which change the 

Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii
to
Content-Type: Text/x-gzip64; charset=us-ascii

which can then be handled by ~/.mailcap using

text/x-gzip64; base64-decode <%s |gunzip; copiousoutput

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Re: how not to auto-load attachments?

2007-08-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-08-24 13:26:29, schrieb Louis-David Mitterrand:
> Hi,
> 
> When using imap with mutt-1.5.16 is there a way to not automatically 
> load attachements when viewing the message body? 

No, since the attachments ARE the message body.

> Ideally when on a low-bandwidth connection I'd like to have access to 
> the message text and select which attachments to download.

I do not know a Imap-Server which allow this...
Maybe Exchange?  -  Oops!

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Re: Setting subscribe/list within muttrc (using IMAP)

2007-08-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-08-24 23:49:36, schrieb David J. Weller-Fahy:
> Perhaps I'm looking for a feature that doesn't exist, and I'm almost
> certainly missing something simple, but here's the background:


It seems there is no way in mutt...

I am too using a simplified code sniplet of "uw-imap" to get all
directories (and number of NEW/READ messages ) from an imap-server...

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Re: [OT] List corrupting DomainKeys?

2007-09-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Kyle,

I was searching several hours before I have gotten your message...
Because I was thinking, it is my procmailrc or some scripts invoced
which had altered your messages...  Uff!

(I have had already buggy AntiSPAM-Scripts...)

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Re: Procmail

2007-10-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-10-09 16:06:31, schrieb Rem P Roberti:
> 
> Back at it (Kyle, are you out there?).  I've been trying to set up
> individual mailboxes for folks I receive mail from frequently.  I
> create the mailbox in .muttrc (mailboxes $HOME/Mail/user), and then a recipe 
> like this in
> .procmailrc:
> 
> :0:
> * ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> user
> 
> But the mail isn't getting filtered to the named mailboxes.  Procmail is
> making me feel a little stupid.

Try:

:0:
* ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
user


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Re: Procmail

2007-10-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Patrick,

Am 2007-10-09 21:06:32, schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> Do you have something afterwards altering $MAILDIR, 
> AND
> your procmail *path* variables should be quoted:

I am usung procmail since ober 8 years and have never quoted it.

> SHELL="/bin/bash"
> SPOOL="/var/spool/mail"
> MAILDIR="$HOME/Mail"
> DEFAULT="$SPOOL/pat"
> PMDIR="$HOME/.procmail"
> LOGFILE="$PMDIR/log"

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Re: Procmail

2007-10-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-10-09 21:19:54, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> On Tuesday, October  9 at 04:37 PM, quoth Rem P Roberti:
> > My thanks again to both of you.  Creating my .procmailrc recipe in 
> > the manner suggested by Joseph did the trick.  What I don't 
> > understand is that since the variable MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail exists at 
> > the beginning of .procmailrc why is it necessary to state the full 
> > path to the target mailbox in the recipe?
> 
> It's not; it's just often helpful to be extra explicit when trying to 
> figure out why things don't work.

But not realy since in the logfile the patch will be cuted to ~70 chars...

The original Log was:

8<--
 Subject: Re: Procmail
  Folder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/new/1192149195.19419_0.tp570.pr4006
8<--

Using a full path would be:

8<--
 Subject: Re: Procmail
  Folder: /home/michelle.konzack/Maildir/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/4006
8<--

but since some of my Maildir are longer, your logfile will be worthless
for analyzing.

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Re: Procmail Nesting

2007-10-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-10-10 15:29:08, schrieb Rem P Roberti:
> Is it possible to use curly braces to nest conditions?  For
> example, there are two addresses that can be used for the FreeBSD
> mailing list to which I subscribe, and I would like to incorporate them both 
> into the same
> recipe.  
> 
> Rem
> 
- END OF REPLIED MESSAGE -

YES, but such question should be ask on <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
the main procmail-list.

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Re: How to send a return receipt

2007-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-10-11 11:28:46, schrieb David Champion:
> This is correct.  Mutt doesn't internally support MDNs.  A patch has
> been posted by Werner Koch, but it might not be current.  Check the
> mutt-dev archives.

Does this only mean, sending of MDN's or receiving?

I use mutt from "Debian" and sometimes it ask me
whethere I want to send the confimation back...

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Re: alternate editor ?

2007-11-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-11 20:29:01, schrieb Gerard Robin:
> Hello,
> is it possible to do write this in the file .muttrc (in muttrc language) :
> 
> if $DISPLAY=:0.0 then editor="gedit" else edtor=vim

set editor=`if [ ${DISPLAY} = ":0.0" ] ; then echo gedit ; else echo vim ; fi`

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Re: Muttrc not source when reading from stdin

2007-11-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-12 11:41:51, schrieb Roger Cornelius:
> mutt 1.5.16, 1.5.17
> SCO OSR507 & OSR6
> 
> I have "hostname=" in the system Muttrc file.  If I invoke
> mutt interactively to send a message, e.g. "mutt someuser", the hostname
> setting is honored and the From and To headers both contain  as
> expected.  But if mutt reads it's input from stdin,
> e.g. "echo test | mutt -s test someuser", the hostname= setting is
> ignored and neither the From nor To headers reflect the hostname
> setting.  My .signature is also not appended to the message.
> 
> Is this intended behavour, or am I missing something (or a bug)?

I am using 1.5.13 and I have the same behaviour here.
I need to use

echo test | mutt -f ~/.mutt/muttrc -s test someuser

to get it working.

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Re: global case insensitivity on hooks

2007-11-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-14 11:21:52, schrieb Eric Smith:
> For example, I have the following hook,
> send-hook "~t `cat ~/recipients_list` "  'set signature=...
> 
> And I want the matching of everything in the recipients_list file
> to be case insensitive without having to specify each address in
> the file with a regex.

I have a small script which generate this "send-hook" file automaticly
so it build something like:

send-hook "~t rec1"  "set signature=sig1"
send-hook "~t rec2"  "set signature=sig1"
send-hook "~t rec3"  "set signature=sig1"
send-hook "~t rec4"  "set signature=sig2"
send-hook "~t rec5"  "set signature=sig2"
    send-hook "~t rec6"  "set signature=sig2"
send-hook "~t rec7"  "set signature=sig2"
...

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How to edit ^E attachment type permananet?

2007-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

I get Application Notes and Design Guides per E-Mail, but unfortunatly
the emiters Perl-Script send it every time as 

8<--

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Maxim: MAX16029EVKIT
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:33:04 -0800
X-Mailer: Perl script "mailpdf.pl"
using Mail::Sender 0.8.10 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands
running on datasheets.maxim-ic.com (216.34.139.204)
under account ""


This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

--Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1195489984
Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-description: Mail message body
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-disposition: inline

Attached, please find the data sheet MAX16029EVKIT.pdf

Order samples via http://www.maxim-ic.com/samples


--Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1195489984
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="MAX16029EVKIT.pdf"; type=Unknown;
Content-description: MAX16029EVKIT.pdf
Content-transfer-encoding: Base64
Content-disposition: attachment; filename="MAX16029EVKIT.pdf"

JVBERi0xLjQNJeLjz9MNCjQwIDAgb2JqIDw8L0xpbmVhcml6ZWQgMS9MIDEyNDMyNC9PIDQyL0Ug

--Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1195489984--
8<--


Now if I like to view the PDF it does not work...

OK, I go into the attachment view and edit the "application/octet-stream"
to "application/pdf" and now I can view the PDF.  Now I leave the
mailfolder (it is saved) and swicht to another mailfolder and then come
back to the mailfolder with the PDF message and I have to reedit this
shit.

Question:  HOW to edit it permanently?

Note:  I have already contacted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> about this issue
   and I think, I will create a editing procmail recipe for the
   moment to correct the problem...

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Re: Ideas for a Mutt demo

2007-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
T=blacklist]
(7883919)   FLT_undisclosed-re: Hit  [WLIST=undisclosed-recipients, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Folder: .ATTENTION.2007_47.bts_debian.FLT_undisclosed-recipients/new 6224
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 01:20:08 
(...)   TDMailSerialnumber: Pass
(7884589)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=1]
(7884589)   NET_sysmessages   : Pass
 Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tdmailfilter
  Folder: .SERVER.private_mail/new/1195690808.25465_0.mail.private  672
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 01:25:16 
(...)   TDMailSerialnumber: Pass
(7884590)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=1]
(7884590)   NET_sysmessages   : Pass
 Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tdmuttmailboxes --cron
  Folder: .SERVER.private_mail/new/1195691116.28785_0.mail.private 2315
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 07:25:34 
(7884529)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=3]
(7884529)   ML_divers : Pass
(7884529)   Peoples   : Pass
(7884529)   BUSINESS_firms: Pass
 Subject: Maxim: MAX16029EVKIT
  Folder: .Business.Maxim/new/1195712734.22940_0.mail.private170156
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 07:25:34 
(7884570)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=5]
(7884570)   ML_divers : Pass
(7884570)   Peoples   : Pass
(7884570)   BUSINESS_firms: Pass
 Subject: Maxim Membership Update
  Folder: .Business.Maxim/new/1195712734.22984_0.mail.private  2797
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 15:00:06 
(7732056)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=4]
(7732056)   ML_divers : Pass
(7732056)   Peoples   : Pass
(7732056)   BUSINESS_firms: Maxim [New Product Announcements, 8 Links]
 Subject: [Maxim EE-Mail] 8 New Products
  Folder: .Business.Maxim.New_Products/new/1195740007.31425_0.mail.pri 9874
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 15:00:16 
(7721477)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=4]
(7721477)   ML_divers : Pass
(7721477)   Peoples   : Pass
(7721477)   BUSINESS_firms: Maxim [Design Guides, 2 Links]
 Subject: [Maxim EE-Mail] Design Guides
  Folder: .Business.Maxim.Design_Guides/new/1195740016.32434_0.mail.pr 3590
 NEW MESSAGE AT 2007-11-22 15:00:22 
(7684617)   FLT_received  : Pass [COUNT=4]
(7684617)   ML_divers : Pass
(7684617)   Peoples   : Pass
(7684617)   BUSINESS_firms: Maxim [Application Notes, 3 Links]
 Subject: [Maxim EE-Mail] 3 App Notes
  Folder: .Business.Maxim.Application_Notes/new/1195740022.639_0.mail. 5076

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Re: header_cache database always growing

2007-11-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-21 11:49:13, schrieb Nicolas KOWALSKI:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 09:37:22AM +0100, Rocco Rutte wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > * Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
> >
> >> I have noticed that the headers databases are always growing, even if 
> >> I delete mails.
> >
> > Here it's important from where you delete them. When you delete them 
> > within mutt using that header cache, it should remove those entries 
> > (mutt doesn't sync the hcache to changes using other tools).
> 
> I delete these mails within mutt.

Me too...  And it seems to me like a bug...

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First "fcc-hook" is not more working...

2007-11-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

if I start mutt I get:

8<--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] export LANG=C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] export LC_ALL=C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] mutt
Error in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/hook-fcc, line 8: Unmatched ( or \(
Error in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/muttrc, line 18: source: errors in 
/home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/hook-fcc
source: errors in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/muttrc
8<--

which is realy annoying and I have an include

[ '~/.mutt/hook-fcc' ]--

###
# 
# # fcc-hook [!] 
# 
#  is recipient,  is where to save a copy
# 

fcc-hook '~t @(bugs|packages|qa)\.debian\.org'  =.BTS_debian/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_debian/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_linux/
fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_linux/
fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_linux/
fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_linux/
fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_linux/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_mail/
fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_mail/
fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_mail/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_lugs/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_pgsql/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_php/

fcc-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.ML_xwindow/

#---

fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.Private/
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.BSD/
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.Devel/
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.DOS/
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.Linux/
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.Sun/
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =.Windows/


which was working long time ago...  (Debian Woody or something older)
Now, the first "fcc-hook" do not more work.  I have chnaged it to

fcc-hook '~t .*@(bugs|packages|qa)\.debian\.org'=.BTS_debian/

but the same error.  After reading the mutt manual I am curios abot this
issue...

Any Ideas?

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Re: New version of mutt folds subject lines, and Outlook doesn't nicely unfold

2007-11-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-25 20:46:25, schrieb Frank Bulk:
> I'm new to this list but searched the archives (and Google) and was unable
> to find an answer.
> 
> We were using 1.4.1i, but upgraded to 1.5.17 to take advantage of
> wildcard-based file attaching.  As a result of that change we see that
> command-line based emails that cron is sending out now are folding the
> lines.  

Who is sending out?

Cron does not use mutt and I have never seen folded subjectlines in a
cron message.  --  Even if the commandline was 1000 Bytes long...

> For example, what was:
> Subject: A DSL modem belonging to username 'username' is constantly
> reconnecting (112 times)
> in the headers is now:
> Subject: A DSL modem belonging to username 'username' is constantly
>   reconnecting (112 times)

Do you use a script and inside the script you use mutt?
I think, there are better and faster ways to send out messages.

sendmail -t <
Subject: A DSL modem belonging to username 'username' is constantly 
reconnecting (112 times)
Date: $(date -rfc-822)
Message-Id: ...
Mime-Version: ...
...


EOF



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Re: How to edit ^E attachment type permananet?

2007-11-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Kyle,

Am 2007-11-27 10:53:37, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> Don't. The best solution is to add the following to your muttrc:
> 
>  mime_lookup application/octet-stream
> 
> You'll (almost) never have to edit an attachment type again!

Thanks for this tip...
It works perfectly.

I was not aware of this option.

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uncolor problem

2007-12-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

Why does "uncolor" only work for "index" and not for object?
This behaviour is realy annoying.

I mean, I want to use for example:

[ '~/.mutt/hook-folders' ] -
folder-hook .   'source ~/.mutt/colors_diff_un'

folder-hook .BTS_debian 'source ~/.mutt/security.pgp.ml_debian; \
 source ~/.mutt/colors_diff'

folder-hook .ML_debian.devel/   'source ~/.mutt/security.pgp.ml_debian; \
 source ~/.mutt/colors_diff; \
 my_hdr Fcc: =.ML_debian/'

folder-hook .ML_debian  'source ~/.mutt/security.pgp.ml_debian; \
 my_hdr Fcc: =.ML_debian/'

folder-hook .ML_devel   'source ~/.mutt/security.pgp.ml_devel; \
 source ~/.mutt/colors_diff; \
 my_hdr Fcc: =.ML_devel/'

folder-hook .ML_linux.linux-kernel  'source ~/.mutt/security.pgp.ml_linux; \
 source ~/.mutt/colors_diff; \
 my_hdr Fcc: =.ML_linux/'


where

[ '~/.mutt/colors_diff' ]---
color body black   white   '^Index:\ (.*)$'
color body white   red '^diff\ (.*)$'
color body cyandefault '^@@(.*)$'
color body brightblue  default '^@@ (.*) @@ '
color body red default '^\-\ (.*)$'
color body green   default '^\+(.*)$'
color body red default '^\-\(.*)$'
color body green   default '^\+\(.*)$'
color body red default '^\-#(.*)$'
color body green   default '^\+#(.*)$'
color body red default '^\-.*$'
color body green   default '^\\+.$'
color body red default '^<\ (.*)$'
# color body green   default '^>\ (.*)$'
color body red default '^<#(.*)$'
# color body green   default '^>#(.*)$'
color body magenta default '^---\ (.*)$'
color body magenta default '^\+\+\+\ (.*)$'
color body yellow  default '^=== (.*)$'
color body yellow  default '^! (.*)$'
color body white   default '^\ #(.*)$'
color body white   default '^.*(\ )#(.*)$'
color body white   default '^ }(.*)$'
color body white   default '^   }(.*)$'


which is realy annoying, if you are in other Mailfolders/Mailinglists.
I can not even overwrite it by using "default" for the foreground color,
e.g.:

color body default default '^Index:\ (.*)$'
color body default default '^diff\ (.*)$'
color body default default '^@@(.*)$'
color body default default '^@@ (.*) @@ '
color body default default '^\-\ (.*)$'

My question is: WHY CAN I NOT OVERWRITE the previous definition?

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Re: change folder and immediately apply filter conditions to new

2007-12-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Kyle and Eric,

Am 2007-11-29 08:51:14, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> On Thursday, November 29 at 12:05 PM, quoth Eric Smith:
> > PS. After years of using mutt, I stupidly only discovered yesterday 
> > the usefulness of compound filter conditions.
> 
> :) Happens to all of us. I had been using mutt happily for two years 
> before deciding to make my own muttrc, at which point I discovered 
> *hooks*, which radically changed the game entirely.

:-)

I am using Debian GNU/Linux since 03/1999 and my Workstation was at this
time a WfW 3.11 and WinNT 4.0 where I have used Eudora over NFS (my
first Linux-Server)

One day, I think it was at the end of 1999 or begining 2000 my WfW-WS
was gone and I installed my first Linux-Workstation, using fvwm...

Hell it was a killer.

I have tried Pine, Balsa and some others but was landing at "Mutt" realy
fast...  since I have encountered, it is highly configurable...

I have read the "manual.gz" from the first version I use mutt...

It took me nearly 3 years to learn all this stuff...  :-)

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Re: upgrade to 1.5.17 and header cache no longer working

2007-12-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-29 07:15:55, schrieb Marc Vaillant:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded mutt from 1.5.13 to 1.5.17 and header cache no longer
> seems to work.  I'm using the darwinports install.  Below is the output
> from mutt -v.  My muttrc has "set header_cache=~/Mail".  I deleted the
> db files in ~/Mail from my previous version.  All that ends up in ~/Mail
> are empty "imaps:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" directories for each of my imap accounts. 


It should be:   imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
or if you use courier   imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/INBOX

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Re: First "fcc-hook" is not more working...

2007-12-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Rocco,

Am 2007-11-30 15:22:54, schrieb Rocco Rutte:
> Hi,
> 
> * Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> >8<--
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] export LANG=C
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] export LC_ALL=C
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] mutt
> >Error in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/hook-fcc, line 8: Unmatched ( or \(
> >Error in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/muttrc, line 18: source: errors in 
> >/home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/hook-fcc
> >source: errors in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/muttrc
> >8<--
> 
> >Now, the first "fcc-hook" do not more work.  I have chnaged it to
> 
> >   fcc-hook '~t .*@(bugs|packages|qa)\.debian\.org'  =.BTS_debian/
> 
> >but the same error.  After reading the mutt manual I am curios abot this
> >issue...
> 
> >Any Ideas?
> 
> Oh, please not again. Somebody on IRC had exactly the same problem where 

   :-)  ...shit!

> a 600 byte alternates command wouldn't work and reported a regex error.  
> In one mutt version it worked, with a different on a different system it 
> didn't for no reason. As in your case, I bet the error is the regex 
> engine and not mutt itself.

Exactly, I have had 1.5.9/12 it was working.  Now on my workstation
1.5.13 and on my laptop I think 1.5.15.

> For the alternates issue, the workaround was to split the pattern at |.
> 
> Can you please give system details and see if multiple fcc-hooks work 
> (including 'mutt -v | grep REGEX' and the libc version)? Do you have 
> other regexes with brackets/OR logic?

+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  


libc6:
  Installiert:2.3.6-15
  Mögliche Pakete:2.3.6-15
  Versions-Tabelle:
 *** 2.3.6-15 0
500 cdrom://Etch DVD 1 etch/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

> I really have no clue what's wrong, thouhg :(

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Re: How to edit ^E attachment type permananet?

2007-12-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Kyle,

The problem is now solved.  I have gotten a message from Maxim:

8<--
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:21:31 -0800
From: Moe Rubenzahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File attachment MIME type

Good suggestion, thank you.

We have updated the code to use a newer module for attaching &
sending the e-mail, and also changed content type to
"application/pdf".

Moe Rubenzahl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Executive Director of Internet Marketing
Maxim Integrated Products
120 San Gabriel Dr.
Sunnyvale, CA 94086

408-331-4149
8<--

It seems some of the competent peoples...
The new service is definitivly better.  :-)

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Am 2007-11-27 10:53:37, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> On Thursday, November 22 at 06:05 AM, quoth Michelle Konzack:
> > OK, I go into the attachment view and edit the 
> > "application/octet-stream" to "application/pdf" and now I can view 
> > the PDF.  Now I leave the mailfolder (it is saved) and swicht to 
> > another mailfolder and then come back to the mailfolder with the PDF 
> > message and I have to reedit this shit.
> >
> > Question:  HOW to edit it permanently?
> 
> Don't. The best solution is to add the following to your muttrc:
> 
>  mime_lookup application/octet-stream
> 
> You'll (almost) never have to edit an attachment type again!
> 
> What that does is tells mutt that attachments of that mime-type should 
> be opened up according to their filename, so as long as the file they 
> send ends in .pdf you're in good shape!
> 
> ~Kyle
> -- 
> The chief enemy of creativity is 'good taste.'
>-- Pablo Picasso
> 
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Re: First "fcc-hook" is not more working...

2007-12-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Rocco,

The problem is definitivly NOT IN MUTT since I get exact the same error
now in one of my scripts usin "egrep"

Am 2007-11-30 15:22:54, schrieb Rocco Rutte:
> * Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >8<--
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] export LANG=C
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] export LC_ALL=C
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] mutt
> >Error in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/hook-fcc, line 8: Unmatched ( or \(
> >Error in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/muttrc, line 18: source: errors in 
> >/home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/hook-fcc
> >source: errors in /home/michelle.konzack/.mutt/muttrc
> >8<--

> Oh, please not again. Somebody on IRC had exactly the same problem where 
> a 600 byte alternates command wouldn't work and reported a regex error.  
> In one mutt version it worked, with a different on a different system it 
> didn't for no reason. As in your case, I bet the error is the regex 
> engine and not mutt itself.
> 
> For the alternates issue, the workaround was to split the pattern at |.
> 
> Can you please give system details and see if multiple fcc-hooks work 
> (including 'mutt -v | grep REGEX' and the libc version)? Do you have 
> other regexes with brackets/OR logic?
> 
> I really have no clue what's wrong, thouhg :(
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Here the code sniplet:

8<--
elif `echo "${LINE}" |egrep '^(---|+++) ' >/dev/null` ; then
  echo "${ESC}35;40m${LINE}"
8<--

and if I call my script with:

[ command 'tdfileview --color --inputfile=tdfileview.0201.diff' ]---

Viewing:  /home/michelle.konzack//bin/tdfileview.0201.diff
Filetype: RCS/CVS diff output text
Filter:   201, diff or patch
==
Index: debian-packages
grep: »)« oder »\)« ohne öffnende Klammer
===
grep: »)« oder »\)« ohne öffnende Klammer
--- debian-packages (revision 2398)
grep: »)« oder »\)« ohne öffnende Klammer


Any ideas?

grep:
  Installiert:2.5.1.ds2-5
  Mögliche Pakete:2.5.1.ds2-5
  Versions-Tabelle:
 *** 2.5.1.ds2-5 0
500 cdrom://Etch DVD 1 etch/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: MTA and fcc-hook

2008-01-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-08 19:46:58, schrieb Rado S:
> =- Lucas GR wrote on Tue  8.Jan'08 at 18:57:11 +0100 -=
> 
> > I was wondering if it could be possible to use differents smtp
> > servers depending of the destinatary of the email.
> 
> Yes, see "send-hook" cmd and "sendmail" var.

How do you want archive this from mutt?

exim, postfix or courier, even ssmtp or msmtp can not change the
SMTP-Relay on the fly.  This is a config option from the MTA.

> > Perhaps this configuration is only possible in my MTA.

Right

> See faq for this.

Where?

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Re: Mutt with IMAP not checking (subscribed) folders

2008-01-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-08 22:53:10, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter:
> Almost a week gone by and nobody picked this mail up. 

:-)  Maybe to less infos...

> Am I asking the wrong list? Is there some error so obvious nobody even thinks
> its worth to answer?

First of all:  Since you have:

set folder=imap://mail.state-of-mind.de/INBOX
and
INBOX.ml.spamassassin

I asume you are using courier-imap (which I use since years and I have
the same syntax)

Do you have setup the "mailboxes" command like

mailboxes =.ml.spamassassin

if not, mutt will NOT CHECK the mailfolder for new messages.
The "subscribe " has nothing to do with the polling for NEW
MESSAGES.

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Re: DOS text file attachments.

2008-02-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-02-07 00:14:02, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> What if the file had been left as-is, and the line endings had been 
> recognized as not needing conversion? The receiver would receive a 
> correctly encoded text/plain attachment, and when saving that 
> attachment to disk, his MUA would convert the line endings to whatever 
> the native scheme happened to be. There would be no extra lines, BUT 
> the file's status as a "DOS text" file would vanish the instant the 
> "DOS" was dropped from the label---there's no such thing as 
> "dostext/plain", after all.

What I have already seen was:   text/ms-dos

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Problem with threating

2008-02-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

If I startup mutt in a "XTerm" all is working fine including the look of
the threating which show clean lines.

But using something like

:`tdmuttsettings --display-filter`

or executed by a macro with:

macro pager   S ':`tdmuttsettings --display-filter`

macro pager "|tdmailblacklist --add=blacklist\n"
macro pager "|tdmailblacklist --remove=blacklist\n"
macro pager "!tdmailblacklist --dialog=blacklist\n"
macro pager"|tdmailwhitelist --add=whitelist\n"
macro pager"|tdmailwhitelist --remove=whitelist\n"
macro pager"!tdmailwhitelist --dialog=whitelist\n"

macro pager "|tdmailcopy --add\n"
macro pager"|tdmailcopy --remove\n"

macro index ':source `tdmuttsource`'"\n"

cause the threating to screwed up to show instead of the lines:

   tq>Test Subject
   x mq?q>Re: Test Subject
   mq>Re: Test Subject

How can this be?

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Re: Problem with threating

2008-02-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Argh!!! FSCK!  --  Found the error my self...

Since some programs I execute from macros screw up the screen I have
used

macro index ':source `tdmuttsource`'"\n!clear\n"
   
removing it and it works again.

Question: With "l" I can redraw the screen, but how do I this from
  the macro?

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Am 2008-02-10 10:31:52, schrieb Michelle Konzack:
> Hello *,
> 
> If I startup mutt in a "XTerm" all is working fine including the look of
> the threating which show clean lines.
> 
> But using something like
> 
> :`tdmuttsettings --display-filter`
> 
> or executed by a macro with:
> 
> macro pager   S ':`tdmuttsettings --display-filter`
> 
> macro pager "|tdmailblacklist --add=blacklist
> "
> macro pager "|tdmailblacklist --remove=blacklist
> "
> macro pager "!tdmailblacklist --dialog=blacklist
> "
> macro pager"|tdmailwhitelist --add=whitelist
> "
> macro pager"|tdmailwhitelist --remove=whitelist
> "
> macro pager"!tdmailwhitelist --dialog=whitelist
> "
> 
> macro pager "|tdmailcopy --add
> "
> macro pager"|tdmailcopy --remove
> "
> 
> macro index ':source `tdmuttsource`'"
> "
> 
> cause the threating to screwed up to show instead of the lines:
> 
>tq>Test Subject
>x mq?q>Re: Test Subject
>    mq>Re: Test Subject
> 
> How can this be?
> 
> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
> Michelle Konzack
> 
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Re: Problem with threating

2008-02-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Patrick,

Am 2008-02-10 12:01:14, schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> * Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-10-08 11:41]:
> > Question: With "l" I can redraw the screen, but how do I this from
> >   the macro?
> 
> TFM:   default
>pager

Ahh thanks... I was missing this.

Note:  I do not like the new syle of the "manual.txt" the old one
   was better to read (specialy I hate those pseudo tables
   since I can not more cut sections from a script with sed)

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Re: Mailing lists and subscribe

2008-03-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-03-01 14:21:43, schrieb Jorge Luis Gonzalez:
> I'm using the following to list and subscribe to my mailing lists:
> 
> unlists *
> lists `for file in ~/Mail/lists/*; do echo -n "=lists/$(basename \
>   $file) "; done`
> 
> unsubscribe *
> subscribe `for file in ~/Mail/lists/*; do echo -n "=lists/$(basename \
> $file) "; done`
> 
> (The lines aren't wrapped in muttrc.  The mboxes for all my mailing
> lists are in ~/Mail/lists.)
> 
> When I try to follow up to a mailing list using L, I get "mailing
> lists not found."  What's wrong with the lists and subscribe lines?

???

Why not use

8<--
unlists *
unsubscribe *
`for file in ~/Mail/lists/* ; do name=$(basename $file) ; \
 echo -e "lists $name\nsubscribe $name" ; done`
8<------

which is nicely faster the your script.

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Re: Mailing lists and subscribe

2008-03-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Alain,

Am 2008-03-09 17:58:02, schrieb Alain Bench:
>  On Monday, March 3, 2008 at 20:48:27 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >| `for file in ~/Mail/lists/* ; do name=$(basename $file) ; \
> >|  echo -e "lists $name\nsubscribe $name" ; done`
> 
> This doesn't work:
> 
>  - the backtick expansion picks the first line only

I have added the \ only for the mail...
Put it into ~/.muttrc as

`for LIST in ~/Mail/lists/* ; do echo -e "subscribe $(basename $LIST)" ; done`

and it just works

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Threads screwing up in XTerm [WAS: piping messages to external scripts]

2008-03-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Kyle and *,

Am 2008-03-19 17:08:55, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
>  #!/bin/sh
>  tmp=`mktemp -t menubox.`
>  dialog --menu "choose wisely" 0 0 0 \
>  1 'pick me' \
>  2 'no, really, pick me!' \
>  3 'forget those losers' \
>  4 'PICK ME!' 2>$tmp
>  read choice <$tmp
>  echo you picked $choice | less
> 
> Read dialog's documentation for all the other neat tricks you can do 
> with it---it's surprisingly powerful.
 END OF REPLIED MESSAGE 

I do such stuff since years and it works great, with  or .

However, in the console/vt there is no problem, but in a XTerm, I run
sometimes into trouble with the characters...

Curently,  the  threads  are  shown  fine  in  lines.  I  can  call   my
"tdmuttsettings" :-) to change settings on the fly or permananet and  it
it just works with Xdialog...

But sometimes, I use a macro to start a  filter  (like  blacklisting  or
such) and after I am back in "mutt" the threating is screwed up...

The lines are transformed into => and such crap.

Do you know what this cause?

It seems, I have used something in one or more scripts, which  screw  it
up but was not able to locate it.

Any hints?


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Re: Threads screwing up in XTerm [WAS: piping messages to external

2008-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-03-26 16:51:59, schrieb Michael Kjorling:
> On 25 Mar 2008 03:05 +0100, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michelle Konzack):
> > But sometimes, I use a macro to start a  filter  (like  blacklisting  or
> > such) and after I am back in "mutt" the threating is screwed up...
> > 
> > The lines are transformed into => and such crap.
> > 
> > Do you know what this cause?
> 
> Mutt displays "=>" in the threaded view when it detects a "duplicate"
> message. (As an aside, the ~= pattern is analogous to this.)

I do not mean this, but

tq> Subject
 mq> Subject

The lines are gone...

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UMASK problem

2008-05-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

normaly I am using "courier-imap" on my fileserver but now I  was  using
direct access and running into an UMASK problem.

The "~/Maildir" has permission 1775 and the UMASK is set to  002  within
my "~/.procmailrc" and is set right if new messages arrive.

But if I access Mailfolders, mutt change the MODE back to 600  on  files
and 700 on directories (if new one are created)

How can I solv this problem?

Note:   The messages must be accessibel from oter $USER too.

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HOW to set the UMASK?

2008-05-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

My system is setup to use a UMASK=002 on my  Maildir  (procmail  do  the
right thing) but if I read the messages with mut, they are after reading
0600 and can not more read fro another account.

How can this solved?

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[FEATURE REQUEST] ~/.muttrc, ~/.mutt/muttrc and other directories

2008-05-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

Since I am developer and my mailinglist/bts subscriptions explode I like
to separate the stuff.  Unfortunately I have  already  over  200  config
files in my ~/.mutt/ directory.

I know I can use

mutt -F ~/.mutt/muttrc_std
mutt -F ~/.mutt/muttrc_bts
mutt -F ~/.mutt/muttrc_ml

but this keep all the config files in the same  directory  which  is  by
default ~/.mutt/.

Now I have tried to use

mutt -F ~/.mutt_bts/

but this does not work.

So I like to see the feature, that if "mutt" is called with a DIRECTORY
as parameter for -F then the default ~/.mutt/ is not more used.

This would simplify things, because currently if I use

mutt -F ~/.mutt_bts/muttrc

I have to specify ALL files I source with the FULL PATH  which  mess  up
things since some files are only copies from other configs and I have to
edit this files all the time I want to change something...

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Re: HOW to set the UMASK?

2008-05-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Helloy Kyle and Keld,

Am 2008-05-18 19:34:31, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen:
> I see. Would it be possible to add some command to .muttrc to override
> this? eg a umask command? That would be easier for me and others needing
> this functionality than recompiling the sources every time mutt is used
> on a new system.

I support this wish!

> Or maybe a "set no_mutt_umask=yes" to just keep the umask of the environment.

Why not

set umask=default
set umask=ignore
set umask=XXX

where "default" is the original behaviour of mutt, ignore use the system
defaults and XXX is a manual set umask.

The  later  can  be  important,  if  you  access  a  maildir  where  the
directories are partialy shared...

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Re: Email addresses with spaces

2008-05-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-28 10:43:41, schrieb Clayton Scott Kern:
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to address this.
> 
> I use fetchmail -> sendmail -> procmail -> mutt.

First of all:  Why do you use "sendmail" between
   "fetchmail" and "procmail"?

> I have problem with emails that have spaces in the user name.
> For example  joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Such messages should be rejected by your ISP on SMTP-Level since they
are invalid.

> Mutt doesn't display them in the index page.  For now, I've been editing
> the mbox file and putting an underline in the email address.
> 
> I've looked through the manual and if there's a setting to handle this,
> I'mm missing it.  Or should I be handling this with either procmail or
> sendmail?

Better ask you ISP to REJECT them.

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Re: Hi all, is there anyone knows how to send bigger attachments (a 6M sized file) with mutt?

2008-06-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Can not be...

Am 2008-06-01 16:58:36, schrieb Awflasher(GuoQirui):
> Mutt is really great but I cannot get anything when sending a 6M file.
> 
> It's ok for sending small files but when i'm trying to send a big
> file, it stopped working.
> 
> Hope to get some tips, thanks very much!!
> 
 END OF REPLIED MESSAGE 

Today morning I have send an attachment of 26 MByte
(Debian Package) per mutt over then net...

It take some time because Up-Stream is only 128 kBit
(50 MBit Down-Stream) per Satelite but it works.

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Re: smtp_pass: why is it unneeded?

2008-06-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-06-24 10:31:12, schrieb Kyle Wheeler:
> Unlikely. More likely, your server has implemented IMAP-before-SMTP, 
> which means anyone from your IP address can send email via SMTP 
> without a username or password. It's not that it's figuring out what 
> your username and password are, it's that successful logins to your 
> IMAP server probably put your IP address on a whitelist that your SMTP 
> server uses. 

Does this work only with Linux Clients or under Windows too?


Hmmm, there are inteligent Viriis and Trojans which use the  SMTP  relay
of ones provider...  and if he/she  connect  successfuly  to  IMAP,  the
Viriis or Trojans can spam the world "legaly"...

Not very usefull in my eyes.

> for each is absolutely necessary, I just implemented IMAP-before-SMTP. 
> The devil is in the details, and there are some drawbacks to this kind 
> of policy (which I can get into, but is probably offtopic of this 
> list), but it's a common-enough setup that I wouldn't be surprised if 
> your server does it.

The thing above?

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Re: User's inbox

2008-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Rem,

Am 2008-07-10 21:25:49, schrieb Rem P Roberti:

> mailboxes $HOME/Mail/walt
> mailboxes $HOME/Mail/inbox
> 
> All of those mailboxes, with the exception of "inbox", are actual
> folders.  Inbox, on the other hand is not a folder, but rather a file,
> to which are appended all of the email which is not put in named folders
> by Procmail.  Why is it that the inbox cannot itself have its own folder
> instead of just being a file?  You know, a folder containing cur, new,
> and tmp.  Normally, I wouldn't care about all of this, but I am using
> Mairix to do indexing and searching of email, and Mairix, to the best of
> my knowledge, will not index a file.  So I guess I'm asking why I can't
> set up my inbox just like any of the mailboxes that Procmail delivers
> to. 
> 
> Whew!  Does that make any sense?

The ~/.procmailrc should be something like:

8<---
MAILDIR=${HOME}/Mail
DEFAULT=${MAILDIR}/inbox/

:0
* ^From:.*walt
.walt/
8<---

The important line is

DEFAULT=${MAILDIR}/

with the / at the end and of course you must do ONE time by hand a

mkdir -p  $HOME/Mail/inbox/{tmp,cur,new}

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Mutt eat all system resources if "color" is used...

2008-07-13 Thread Michelle Konzack

*   Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here   *
*Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe*


Hello *,

I am working with an IBM ThinkPad 570  (P2/366MHz/192MB)  and  it  works
perfectly but for some days I have setup some new colorization  and  now
mutt kill all of my CPU and Memory resources...

[ '~/.mutt/colors' ]
color body brightmagentadefault "^\-\-\-\-\\[ STDIN \\]\-\-.*"
color body brightmagentadefault "^\\+\-\-\-\\[ STDIN \\]\-\-.*"
color body brightmagentadefault "^\-\-\-\-\\[ manpage \'.*\' \\]\-\-.*"
color body brightmagentadefault "^\\+\-\-\-\\[ manpage \'.*\' \\]\-\-.*"
color body brightmagentadefault "^\-\-\-\-\\[ command \'.*\' \\]\-\-.*"
color body brightmagentadefault "^\\+\-\-\-\\[ command \'.*\' \\]\-\-.*"
color body brightmagentadefault '^| '
color body brightmagentadefault '^\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-.*'
color body brightmagentadefault '^\+\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-.*'


This sniplet is the reason...

OK, I have arround 150  mailfolder  defined  in  "mailboxes"  and  after
checkig the 15th, mutt has eaten then whle memory (192 MByte) and  begin
to eat my SWAP (256 MByte).  Also if I press  in  the  message
view, the CPU utilization jumps for 4-7 seconds to 100%

Can anyone tell me why?

Note:  I use colorization since many years and it was NEVER a problem.

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