Re: those users (documenting mutt)
> > > > I've started work on one - and Sven Guckes & Robin Socha have been really > > helpful on this. > > Perhaps you all will consider contributing anyway. Whether an author is a > native Engish speaker or not, all of the draft documentation should be > edited for a consistent grammar, style, spelling etc. I am a native > English speaker -- OK, American -- and a published author. I know dang > well that I cannot edit my own stuff worth a dang. > Well, I am a graduate student in English (literature), so I ought to be pretty good at writing. I could probably help with some of the editing. --In fact, it would be nice to help with some documentation that is clearly and well written (there seems to be so little of it! I'm not talking about mutt docs but just computer docs in general). rebecca
Re: those users (was "Re: Reply to all???")
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:09:38PM +, Nollaig MacKenzie wrote: > > Has this ever been tried for some Cool Software: > > Create two lists: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > And etiquette requires that if you are fairly newbile > you send your question to CoolSoftwareNewbies and wait > a reasonable time before construing the absence of > answer as an indication that you should send it to > CoolSoftwareUsers? > > Naive, I suppose.. > I think this would cause more problems than it solves-- in a way you are encouraging newbies to ask questions rather than read the docs, but beyond that-- this assumes that there are people on the newbie list who know the answers to the questions, but obviously the newbies don't, that's why they're there. Who is going to be the masochist/martyr to subscribe to this list and answer the same stupid questions all the time? rebecca
Re: help! hung by mutt
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 08:04:56PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > > Rebecca Lynne Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 14 Jun 2000: > > to start it and it hangs while trying to open my mail folder. > > > > All I get is: > > Reading /usr/mail/rsutton... > > The same thing happens if I try to start with other folders besides my > > inbox. > > This, and because upgrading to Mutt 1.2 didn't help, well one thing that > could possibly have stopped working is mutt_dotlock. This is a tiny > program that's usually installed suid root (or sugrp mail), so that it > can lock the incoming mail folder in /usr/spool/mail for any user. > Using it also means that Mutt itself doesn't need to be suid root or > sugrp mail. And when you upgrade from one Mutt version to another, the > dotlock program stays the same, it doesn't need to be modified to give > special permissions again. > > Because Mutt apparently still works but things suddenly stopped working, > it could be that someone changed mutt_dotlock (maybe removing the > suid/sugrp?)... It might not be that, but it's worth checking. > > Thanks for the help, Mikko. Eventually, all my defunct mutt processes disappeared, and now I am (happily) using mutt again. I'm not certain that it was the dotlock, though that sounds like a good possibility. Hopefully it won't happen again, it was hard to live without mutt for two days! rebecca
help! hung by mutt
Help, oh wise mutt-users! Yesterday mutt was working fine, today I can't get it to work. I try to start it and it hangs while trying to open my mail folder. All I get is: Reading /usr/mail/rsutton... The same thing happens if I try to start with other folders besides my inbox. I can't even ctrl-c (or anything else) out of it. --oh, and 'ps -ef' reveals I have several defunct mutt processes running. I sent them kill -KILL signals, but they're still hanging... Not sure how to get rid of them... I was running mutt 1.0.1, thought that might be a problem, so I just compiled & installed mutt 1.2i (under my home directory-- this is a sun, but not my box). Same problem. --Other programs aren't having any problems reading my mail files; from works, countmail works, I'm using elm right now-- which I used to use before I found mutt, but now it is so painful to use in comparison! Please pardon the Y2K incompliancy-- I've bugged the system folk to upgrade elm, or better yet, install mutt, but they still haven't done anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. rebecca
Help! hung by mutt
Help! I tried to send this last night with elm, and it never went through. I don't know if that was a problem with elm, or if there are more problems on this system. I forgot to give very many other details, don't know if they will help any or not-- this machine is a Sun, running SunOS 5.6 ... don't know what other info you might need, let me know... thanks, rebecca Subject: help! hung by mutt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 100 23:28:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1093 Help, oh wise mutt-users! Yesterday mutt was working fine, today I can't get it to work. I try to start it and it hangs while trying to open my mail folder. All I get is: Reading /usr/mail/rsutton... The same thing happens if I try to start with other folders besides my inbox. I can't even ctrl-c (or anything else) out of it. --oh, and 'ps -ef' reveals I have several defunct mutt processes running. I sent them kill -KILL signals, but they're still hanging... Not sure how to get rid of them... I was running mutt 1.0.1, thought that might be a problem, so I just compiled & installed mutt 1.2i (under my home directory-- this is a sun, but not my box). Same problem. --Other programs aren't having any problems reading my mail files; from works, countmail works, I'm using elm right now-- which I used to use before I found mutt, but now it is so painful to use in comparison! Please pardon the Y2K incompliancy-- I've bugged the system folk to upgrade elm, or better yet, install mutt, but they still haven't done anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. rebecca
Re: hiding IMAP "FO LDER IN TERNAL D ATA" messages
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 07:29:31PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Tim Danner wrote: > > > I read mail with mutt when I'm local, and IMAP when I'm away. The IMAP stuff > > creates messages with the subject "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER > > INTERNAL DATA". When reading with mutt, I'd like these to be hidden. Is there > > a facility for not displaying messages meeting some pattern? > > Simple - add this to your muttrc > folder-hook . "push \"l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\"" > > by the way, the reason I'm using PINE (spit) to write this was that this > folder hook hid _your_ mail :) That's the reason I've munged your subject > a bit. > Couldn't you use regexps to match a little bit more exactly? Like this: folder-hook . "push \"l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA$')\n*\"" That is the end of the subject line, right? BTW, thanks for this-- I plan to add it to my muttrc. rebecca
Re: emacs mail mode?
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 09:25:28AM -0400, mofo wrote:
> I'd like to use emacs (or possibly jed) as my editor for mutt but haven't
> been able to figure out how to automatically create a word wrap at 72 cols.
> I know how to do it in vim but am not yet comfortable enough with it to use
> it exclusively.
>
> thanks.
I have this in my .emacs:
;; mutt-* files
(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\\
