Re: Controlling when new mail appears in boxes?
On Jan/16/2002, Justin R. Miller wrote: I'm not aware of a native way, but I had toyed with the idea of adjusting the value of $mailboxes based on the time of day/week/etc. For example, only reading list mail while not at work (or similar). That should be easy enough, either with shell scripts to output the value of $mailboxes, or maybe a cron job to tweak the .muttrc. I think that a good way to do this natively would be to assign a score to the mailboxes, so only when they reached some score they showed the new mail message. This score could be assigned per new mail received, so playing with this you could assign some kind of priorities to mail folders. Just a wish/suggestion for the developers, anyway :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·Help me [EMAIL PROTECTED]·Heal me Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain·Kill me
Re: nntp in mutt
On Jan/12/2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Ok, I've recompiled mutt with Vsevolod Volkoy's NNTP patch, and I've been poking around a bit... but I can't for the life of my figure out how to configure mutt for NNTP now that it is compiled properly. Anybody know what I have to do? When you patch the sources of Mutt, the manual is also patched. So, you have a Reading news with mutt (or something alike) section in the manual. Have you checked it out yet? :-? -- Roberto Suarez Soto · The world owes you nothing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ·It was here first. Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · (Mark Twain)
Re: Can mutt access USENET?
On Dec/06/2001, Jun Liu wrote: just wondering, :) Not natively. There's a patch somewhere, but the official mutt can't. -- Roberto Suarez Soto · [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Friends are relatives you make for yourself. Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Re: my_hdr From: problems
On Oct/18/2001, Drew Raines wrote: I can't get my_hdr From: to display anything other than Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] I always do a unmy_hdr From: before using my_hdr. Like this: send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:; \ my_hdr From: Roberto Suarez Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]' And it seems to work. -- Roberto Suarez Soto Your time is running out [EMAIL PROTECTED] You want to stay alive Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain
Re: my_hdr From: problems
On Oct/18/2001, Drew Raines wrote: I can't get my_hdr From: to display anything other than Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] I always do a unmy_hdr From: before using my_hdr. Like this: send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:; \ my_hdr From: Roberto Suarez Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]' And it seems to work. -- Roberto Suarez Soto Your time is running out [EMAIL PROTECTED] You want to stay alive Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain
Re: Defaulting to inbox on startup
On Sep/18/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have This is not a question really related to vim, or to Colin's message, but ... well, just out of curiosity: how many people started using vim as editor just by influence of this list? :-) I know I did, because everyone here seemed to use it with great success, and maybe others did too :-) However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? I don't know O:-) What I usually do in that cases is to use Control+J, which I have mapped to: imap C-J C-Ogqap That usually fixes everything, and has become a second-nature for me. -- Roberto Suarez Soto· Ain't no sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] · When she's gone Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Re: Defaulting to inbox on startup
On Sep/18/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have This is not a question really related to vim, or to Colin's message, but ... well, just out of curiosity: how many people started using vim as editor just by influence of this list? :-) I know I did, because everyone here seemed to use it with great success, and maybe others did too :-) However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? I don't know O:-) What I usually do in that cases is to use Control+J, which I have mapped to: imap C-J C-Ogqap That usually fixes everything, and has become a second-nature for me. -- Roberto Suarez Soto· Ain't no sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] · When she's gone Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Re: .signature-related blues
On Sep/19/2001, Miguel Farah F. wrote: Also: one of the nice things about tin (the news reader) is that it lets you have a random signature (there's a fixed part and a random one, selected from the files in a directory previously declared). It'd be nice it mutt could do that as well. Well, not natively, as everyone told you. I use signify for that. It's a little cute program in Perl. Comes by default in Debian, but you can download it also from www.verisim.com, I think. -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·My yellow in this case is not so mellow [EMAIL PROTECTED]· In fact I'm trying to say Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain·It's frightened like me
Re: Adding a header with information taken from the message
On Jun/15/2000, Mikko Hänninen wrote: You can't really do that with Mutt, since you can't store information in arbitrary variables and then refer to them -- unfortunately, in this case. That's what I thought :-m Time for several hours of creative hacking, then :-) Anyway, wouldn't it be a nice feature for Mutt? I mean, having several of the "important" fields of the header in variables. Things like "To", "Date", "From", "Name" ... :-m I could do this in slrn, and as it's so much similar to Mutt, maybe it's not hard to implement such a thing :-m Or is it? :-m -- Roberto Suarez Soto · Fidonet in Spain: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· http://welcome.to/probbs Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jtarrio
Re: news with mutt
On Jun/10/2000, Janek Richter wrote: i want to know if it is possible to read newsgroups in mutt. Yep! It's possible. But not simple :-) I do it with several Perl scripts of my own. I plan to tidy up and release them when I've solved some problems (as, for example, using them with another MTA different from QMail :-)). The process, once installed, is quite transparent: you get articles from the news server with a script, and configure which newsgroups to get with a .newsrc, similar to the one used by slrn. And to reply, you reply to a fake adddress containing the name of the group. It works, though I'm yet giving it the last polishing touches :-) But anyway, it's not trivial. I can give you the scripts to try for yourself, but I think they're not ready for general use yet. -- Roberto Suarez Soto · Fidonet in Spain: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· http://welcome.to/probbs Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jtarrio
Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.
On Jun/14/2000, eric a . Farris wrote: i use signify (part of Debian GNU/Linux, couldn't find a home page for I use it too :-) It's ... well, perfect :-) And it's done in Perl, what makes it even more perfect :-D The homepage, I guess, should be the one of the company that did it, Verisim. Try http://www.verisim.com, or .org, or ... :-) signify can also run as a FIFO if you use other mail agents occasionally Yes, but I tried to use it this way and had a few problems :-m The process writing on the fifo died quite often, I don't know very well why :-m Anyway, as I only use Mutt for everything related to mail (mail, news, fido), it's no problem now :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·Orange is young full of daring [EMAIL PROTECTED]· But very unsteady in the first go-round Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Re: Adding a header with information taken from the message
I did it ':-)
It was easy, but I don't know if what I've done can break something. I
just took the "in_reply_to" variable and added the "X-Comment-To:" part at its
end. Like this:
set in_reply_to=\
"%i; from %a on %{!%a, %b %d, %Y at %I:%M:%S%p %Z}\nX-Comment-To: %n"
Can this harm anything? I mean, some rfc stuff or the like :-?
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Why not include compressed folder support in official Mutt?
That's the question :-) I wonder why, if it's something that is obviously very useful, it's not included in the official distribution of Mutt :-? Any religious reason, or the like? :-m :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto · I'm bold as love [EMAIL PROTECTED]· Just ask the Axis Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Adding a header with information taken from the message
The subject is not very clear about the question, so let me clarify it :-) I want to add a X-Comment-To header in every message that I reply. This header has to be in the form: X-Comment-To: Name Where name is the real name of the person I'm replying to (i.e: John Doe). So, I was wondering if there was a way to make this. It should be with my_hdr, but I don't know if there's a variable, or something similar, to put the name into the header. Well, I hope you understand what I mean. The usual disclaimer about my poor english (and my poor explanation skills O:-)) is applicable here :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto · [EMAIL PROTECTED]· Just GNU it. Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Re: unset strict_threads not working?
I reply to myself, because I found out what was my problem :-) It was as simple as unsetting "sort_re", and I had the threading I liked. With "sort_re" set, the threading took into account the "Re:" part of the Subject, which actually didn't exist :-) So, unsetting this option makes every message with the same Subject appear in the same thread. After knowing this, a quick folder-hook put everything just as I wanted it to be :-) Thanks anyway for your effort :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·Sure there's no way to turn it [EMAIL PROTECTED]· Back to the old days Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·Of bliss and cheerful laughter
Re: unset strict_threads not working?
On May/28/2000, Mikko Hänninen wrote: 1) I *think* (not sure) that if you have had it set, and unset it, you need to make Mutt re-sort the folder. Either re-open it, or change the sort older... Not sure, although it would be easy enough to test. :-) Hmmm ... that was one thing I didn't know :-m I'll try :-) 2) Often the messages don't have an *identical* subject, but instead have "Re: " or something like that in the beginning. Mutt will still No, in this case they really have the same subject. As I said before, this messages are gated from a Fidonet echo. Usually, readers for this echos remove the leading "Re:" in subjects, so this shouldn't be a problem. But I'm glad to see that I had looked at the right points before mailing my problem, because I already knew the $reply_regexp thing :-) 3) As it was recently discussed, Mutt pays attention to the timestamps in messages (the Date header), and will know thread a message that is Yes, I'll have a look at this right now, because this could have some relevance in my problem :-m I'll tell what I find out :-) I hope that helps. If it doesn't, please post us more details... (variable states, message Subject/References sample headers, etc.) I'll do :-) Anyway, another non related (and I hope easier :-)) question: in the kind of mails that I was talking about, the quoted lines usually appear like this: AGG This is a quoted line. I mean, a few letters (the initials of the poster) and the usual "" sign. I find something similar in posts with Gnus. Anyone has a $quote_regexp for this? I could do it myself, but ... well, you know, Open Source is about using the work of others ;-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·Sure there's no way to turn it [EMAIL PROTECTED]· Back to the old days Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·Of bliss and cheerful laughter
Re: unset strict_threads not working?
On May/28/2000, clemensF wrote: AGG This is a quoted line. set quote_regexp="^([A-Za-z ]+|[]%:|}-][]:|}-]*)" Thanks! :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·If it doesn't work, force it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]· If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
unset strict_threads not working?
Hi! I'm using Mutt 1.2, but I think my problem has not too much to do with the version, because it's likely a misconfiguration thing. The problem is that I have a bunch of messages that I gate from news to mail (and the news messages are from a fido gate :-)). These messages haven't got too much of a "rfc compliant" References and/or In-Reply-To fields: most of them just have the reference to another message, and no more than one message. So, when I want to see the folder threaded, there are messages that don't appear in the same thread even when they share the same subject. Reading the docs, this would be the case when "strict_threads" is set; but I haven't set it at all :-m Reading again, the docs say that when strict_threads is not set the threading will take place in all the messages that share subject. But I've got quite a lot of them that fall inside this cathegory and aren't in the same thread :-m So, am I doing something wrong? Setting or unsetting "strict_threads" doesn't any visible effect at all. Any hint? Am I forgetting anything? Thanks in advance :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto · Wrap the Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]· around every brain in the Planet, Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · and Software will flow in the wires.
Re: viewing html emails in mutt
On May/06/2000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: Lots of people connect to the net without a firewall, too :) A firewall? What's a firewall? :-m ;-) Going by the HTML contents of the occasional HTML email I get, the HTML is rubbish, you get thirty pages of HTML source for a two-line message of text, and you have to have a browser or something that will turn it into something you can read. Also, grepping the mail spool for things quickly will suddenly require lots of extra stuff to filter out things in angle brackets. (Okay, this is perhaps not a terribly universal problem...) But it's a good point, indeed. I didn't thought about it O:-) Managing email is quite easy because its simplicity, and maybe formatting it with HTML tags could end with this. But then, I don't contribute to mutt development, so my opinion and wants are not really likely to have an effect. :) Well, users' opinion and ideas should be part of the things that developers take into account when programming, shouldn't they? :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto · Wrap the Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]· around every brain in the Planet, Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · and Software will flow in the wires.
Re: viewing html emails in mutt
On May/06/2000, Corey G. wrote: I must be living in the dark because I never heard of w3m until I saw this thread. What is the opinion on how it works verse lynx? Are there any major benefits in using one over the other? I use it for some things, but in pages with a few tables and/or frames I find that it just puts too many things in too little space :-) I mean, I have only 25x80 text mode, and pages that are done to fit a 800x600 page, with small fonts, seem to flood my screen too much %-) So I use lynx the most of the time. Anyway, I use w3m to see many technical docs, because the ability to render tables is an absolute need sometimes. Have you tried links? (yes, I wrote it well: links) It's another text mode web browser, with kind of Borland-style menus. It doesn't support cookies yet (AFAIK), but it has nice features: for example, choosing colors of the text from the original colors of the page :-) So, if you browse Slashdot you'll see a lot of green, and things like that. It makes it horrible sometimes, but it's worth trying it :-) It has, for me, the same problem that w3m: it's impossible to fit in a tidy manner a page with a lot of tables/frames in a small text mode screen; but it's not a problem of the programs, but a problem in the page side. A well designed page shouldn't have this problem. -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·Orange is young full of daring [EMAIL PROTECTED]· But very unsteady in the first go-round Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
Re: mailboxes lists
El día 03/May/2000, Stefan Bender escribía: Having qmail as MTA I switched entirely to the maildir format for my I switched to Maildir for some of the list I'm subscribed to, but I returned to mailbox because I didn't see the advantages in Maildir :-m It was slower (obviously: there are a lot more of opens to do, one for each message), and though surely more secure and fail-safe ... well, I thought that all of this wasn't enough to switch over. I don't use nfs at all, so maybe for me mailbox was the right option from the start :-) Anyway, and though I know this is one of the recursive questions of the list, what are the advantages that you find in maildir over mailbox? now, but you may have to ask your sysadmin to install procmail for You can always compile it and call it from a script, before running Mutt :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto · Wrap the Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]· around every brain in the Planet, Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · and Software will flow in the wires.
Re: setting envelope from how?
El día 02/May/2000, Claus Assmann escribía: Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time. Yeah, if you "fiddled with sendmail.cf"... It requires two lines in your .mc file: MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') Or even better: use genericstable and remap the addresses you like to whatever you like, in a more "human readable" manner :-) See "genericstable" in sendmail docs. -- Roberto Suarez Soto ·Orange is young full of daring [EMAIL PROTECTED]· But very unsteady in the first go-round Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
How to deal with duplicate messages
Hi! I find myself lately receiving some duplicated messages, and I was wondering if mutt could handle them (i.e., save the dupes to another folder or simply delete them) by itself or I need some external script/program :-m I think I could do some Perl script for this, but first I'd like to know if there's already something like that :-) I think this' something that has been discussed before in the list, so a accurate redirection to the list archives would be useful too :-) Thanks in advance :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto | Wrap the Net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Around every brain in the Planet, Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain |And Software will flow in the wires.
Re: Columns in folder list
On 18/Sep/1999, Fairlight wrote:
Please! :-) I really need them. Are they so difficult to implement, or
is there another reason for not having them? :-m
E...perhaps I'm missing a bit of info, but what do you mean by "columns
in the folder lists" -specifically-?
Ooops, sorry O:-)
I mean columns in the folder list, like Pine. If you have a lot of
folders (as I do), the ways to see and read them all in a sane manner are,
basicly, two: (1) making directories to store the folders, or (2) having columns
in your folder list. The way that it is now, the folder list is only one column,
so if you have more than 20 folders (I do) you have to scroll down the page to
see the rest. If you could see them in columns, a only page would be enough. I
hope you understand what I mean; besides of my english, I usually can't even
make myself clear in spanish %-)
I now that's something that many won't use, but I know I would use it;
and as I'm not such a weird person, perhaps some would use it as well :-) That's
why I asked if it was very difficult to implement, because (almost total coding
ignorance admitted, I warn) it doesn't look like that to me :-m
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Columns in folder list
Please! :-) I really need them. Are they so difficult to implement, or is there another reason for not having them? :-m -- Roberto Suarez Soto · Help me ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Heal me ... Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · Kill me ...
Re: muttrc
On 09/Sep/1999, Telsa wrote:
What kind of Linux system do you (the original poster) have? I have
Red Hat 6.0 and there is a default muttrc in /etc/Muttrc. Mutt reads
/etc/Muttrc? :-m Funny, I haven't realized I had one %-)
Doesn't mutt come with a sample muttrc, then? If not, then rather
In my case (Debian), mutt comes with a sample "general" muttrc, and
besides two muttrcs with Mush and Pine key-bindings, and a "pgp-macros" file.
And the /etc/Muttrc which I just found out :-) I don't know where did the
package maintainer get this muttrc (I suppose it's his personal muttrc), I
always thought it came with every package in every distribution :-m
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Re: mbox or MAILDIR
On 26/Aug/1999, Michael Elkins wrote: As for which is best, maildir probably works faster for large mailboxes since each message is stored in a separate file, so things like deleting message 500 of 1000 happen instantaneously whereas in a mbox style you have to rewrite half of the mailbox to delete the one in the middle. This is also true for updating the message status (marking messages as read or replied to). My bunch of questions about this (sorry if it's offtopic): - Is it possible to use both types at once? (maildir for the bigger folders, mbox for the little ones) - How could I change my mbox folders to maildir? Any program that does this? - Does procmail support this format? - (ObMutt) Does mutt detect automatically the folder format? Thanks in advance :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto |Orange is young full of daring mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| But very unsteady * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain |For the first go'round
Re: archiving mailboxes each month
On Aug/22/1999, Jan Peter Hecking wrote: Now you're missing an newline at the end of the string. Try mailboxes `find $HOME/mail -type f -print | tr '\n' ' ';echo` instead. Beware also that the tilde ~ doesn't get expanded - you have to use $HOME instead. Yep, you're right. It works perfectly now, thanks :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto | Wrap the Internet around every brain mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| on the planet and spin the planet. * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain | Software flows in the wires.
Re: archiving mailboxes each month
Yes, I'm replying again :-) I have realized just now, and the prior message has already been sent. Consider this just a fix :-) On Aug/19/1999, Gerald Oskoboiny wrote: You can get around this by using: mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f -print` (untested, but I use something similar.) As I said before, this doesn't work, it just considers the first item as a mailbox; which happens to be logic, because "find" puts the result as a column of items. Then, we just have to do this to make it work: mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f -print | tr '\n' ' '` It looks right, isn't it? It doesn't work either O:-) And I really don't know what's the fault now. When I put this line in my muttrc, and then I type "mutt -y", mutt just exits without doing anything :-? But if I redirect the result of that command to a file, and then paste its contents as a "mailboxes" line, works fine :-? My excuses for the excessive noise :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto | Clean my wounds mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Wash away all fear * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain | Let courage be mine
Re: archiving mailboxes each month
On Aug/19/1999, Gerald Oskoboiny wrote: You can get around this by using: mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f -print` Doesn't work here :-) Mutt only treats as mailbox the first item in the list. So, if ~/mail had the folders "folder1", "folder2", "folder3", the above command would just list "folder1" as a mailbox. And I don't know how to fix it, if you were wondering O:-) What's the similar thing that you say you use? -- Roberto Suarez Soto | Clean my wounds mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Wash away all fear * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain | Let courage be mine
Coloring part of a header
Is it possible to color just one part of a header? For example: I want my From header to be brightwhite, except the [EMAIL PROTECTED] part, which I want to be red. I supposed that just matching a regexp would do, but I don't know if all the line that matches the regexp is hilited, or just the regexp'd part itself :-m I know that in some cases, like addresses in the body of the message, this works by default. In my case, addresses are hilited red, and URLs are hilited brightblue. I'd want to achieve that, but in the headers. Any hint? -- Roberto Suarez Soto | I feel like my notes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| are little bullets of creamy universe soup. * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain | (Steve Vai)
Re: Config tool for mutt (Was: Email client poll)
On Jul/21/1999, Michael Jennings wrote: The perfect solution would be to have both, indeed :-) I think that a purely text-based one could be easily done with Dialog+Perl (or sh, but I think Perl is better for this task). IMHO, at least. How about Perl for text and Perl/Gtk+ for the GUI? Hmmm ... maybe. You could even do it in the same script, with wrappers that used Gtk+ if a X server was active and Dialog in another case. It's easy to ask for things when you don't have to code them :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto |Sure there's no way to turn it mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Back to the old days * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain |Of bliss and cheerful laughter
Re: Email client poll
On Jul/20/1999, Brandon Ibach wrote: you really have so many mailboxes that the longer format used by Mutt is that much of a problem? In my case, yes. I've got ... (counting ...) 20 mailboxes defined in my .muttrc (and a few more for archiving purposes, as you said you have too). A way to see them in columns would be very appreciated, and it's one of the very few things that I miss in Mutt. In fact, I think that's the only one :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto |flame -- reply to Usenet News posting mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| automatically * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain |
Re: Config tool for mutt (Was: Email client poll)
On Jul/21/1999, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: Sure, but what's wrong with having an X GUI config tool for producing the .muttrc ? If you think it should be purely text based and have some ideas on how to do it then that's o.k. too - one doesn't rule out the other. The perfect solution would be to have both, indeed :-) I think that a purely text-based one could be easily done with Dialog+Perl (or sh, but I think Perl is better for this task). IMHO, at least. -- Roberto Suarez Soto | "You cannot enter here," mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|Said Gandalf, * Corgo - Lugo - Galicia - Spain | And the huge shadow halted.
