Re: How to use/integrate "notmuch" with Mutt
On 21/02/09 12:23PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Feb2021 17:17, boB Stepp wrote: My online research into "notmuch" does not seem to be giving my expected results. My _expectations_ going into this were that with "notmuch" I could: 1) Open an email in Mutt. 2) Based on that email and its contents assign relevant tags to the email via notmuch. These tags would prove useful in the future when searching for tagged content. 3) From within Mutt I could initiate a notmuch search across _all_ of my mail directories. After notmuch returns the search results I could open any of these emails from within Mutt. 4) Et cetera. Meaning similar types of actions initiated from *within* Mutt. That seems to be key. Hmm. I've installed notmuch and notmuch-mutt, both version 0.29.3 dated 2019-11-27 from my package manager. I was concerned that they wouldn't properly work with my more current Mutt 2.0.5, but so far I have not detected any issues. I used the macros suggested on the ArchLinux wiki I mentioned in my earlier response to Cameron. F8 allows me to search all mailboxes from within Mutt. The results show up inside a (I guess) temporary mailbox. I can open these and do usual Mutt-like stuff. F9 supposedly reconstructs threads from emails scattered over multiple mailboxes. I haven't tested this one yet. F6 did not do what I thought it would do from the description. Apparently all it does is remove the inbox tag from all emails is the current search results. In the man pages for notmuch-mutt it suggests that the portion of the macro "-inbox" can be replaced with a different tag. I don't have a good understanding of this macro. I will paste it in below: macro index \ "set my_old_pipe_decode=\$pipe_decode my_old_wait_key=\$wait_key nopipe_decode nowait_key\ notmuch-mutt tag -- -inbox\ set pipe_decode=\$my_old_pipe_decode wait_key=\$my_old_wait_key" \ "notmuch: remove message from inbox" I have a question: Can this be modified so that the user is prompted to enter a tag name which can then be applied to all of the search results? If yes, then that would be wonderful for what I have in mind. Even better would be the ability to enter multiple tags after pressing F6. To finish up I have modified my crontab entry to run "notmuch new --quiet" after it runs the "mbsync -a -qq" command at five minute intervals. So far things seem to be running well. A perhaps better way of doing this scheduling would be the recommendations at the ArchLinux wiki at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Isync#Integration_with_notmuch_or_mu4e However, this would require me to do some research on systemd, configuring and starting services, etc. Perhaps I'll investigate this later, but perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me will find this link useful. -- Wishing you only the best, boB Stepp
Re: How to use/integrate "notmuch" with Mutt
On 21/02/09 12:23PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Feb2021 17:17, boB Stepp wrote: I'm not using notmuch's tagging facility; I only use it for search. And that infrequently. It is this facility that I especially find intriguing if I can make it do what I hope. Notmuch itself lives outside mutt. You set it up with "notmuch setup" and keep it up to date with the "notmuch new" command. (See "man notmuch-setup" and "man notmuch-new".) I have gathered this much so far. I will probably go ahead and install it and notmuch-mutt and see what I can easily make it do. Apparently NeoMutt has integrated notmuch-mutt into their distribution. Out of curiosity, do the Mutt developers have any inclinations in this direction? I've a script for performing a notmuch search and building a result Maildir containing the search results, and popping up that Maildir in mutt: https://hg.sr.ht/~cameron-simpson/css/browse/bin/notmuch-search?tip and I routinely invoke it via a stub script with a shorter name which includes the -t option (includes threads containing the matching messages). Will look at this soon, but I wonder if you have independently have developed similar functionality to what notmuch-mutt is supposed to supply? Can someone clarify what I can and cannot do with notmuch from *within* Mutt? Provide more informative online articles then perhaps I have found? You could easily write a mutt macro to invoke such a search from within mutt itself. I haven't myself. I just issue a search from the command line via my script. Are you thinking of something like this on the ArchLinux Wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Notmuch#Integrating_with_mutt -- Wishing you only the best, boB Stepp
Re: How to use/integrate "notmuch" with Mutt
On 08Feb2021 17:17, boB Stepp wrote: >My online research into "notmuch" does not seem to be giving my expected >results. My _expectations_ going into this were that with "notmuch" I >could: > >1) Open an email in Mutt. > >2) Based on that email and its contents assign relevant tags to the email >via notmuch. These tags would prove useful in the future when searching >for tagged content. > >3) From within Mutt I could initiate a notmuch search across _all_ of my >mail directories. After notmuch returns the search results I could open >any of these emails from within Mutt. > >4) Et cetera. Meaning similar types of actions initiated from *within* >Mutt. That seems to be key. I'm not using notmuch's tagging facility; I only use it for search. And that infrequently. Notmuch itself lives outside mutt. You set it up with "notmuch setup" and keep it up to date with the "notmuch new" command. (See "man notmuch-setup" and "man notmuch-new".) I've a script for performing a notmuch search and building a result Maildir containing the search results, and popping up that Maildir in mutt: https://hg.sr.ht/~cameron-simpson/css/browse/bin/notmuch-search?tip and I routinely invoke it via a stub script with a shorter name which includes the -t option (includes threads containing the matching messages). >Can someone clarify what I can and cannot do with notmuch from *within* >Mutt? Provide more informative online articles then perhaps I have found? You could easily write a mutt macro to invoke such a search from within mutt itself. I haven't myself. I just issue a search from the command line via my script. Cheers, Cameron Simpson
How to use/integrate "notmuch" with Mutt
My online research into "notmuch" does not seem to be giving my expected results. My _expectations_ going into this were that with "notmuch" I could: 1) Open an email in Mutt. 2) Based on that email and its contents assign relevant tags to the email via notmuch. These tags would prove useful in the future when searching for tagged content. 3) From within Mutt I could initiate a notmuch search across _all_ of my mail directories. After notmuch returns the search results I could open any of these emails from within Mutt. 4) Et cetera. Meaning similar types of actions initiated from *within* Mutt. That seems to be key. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what I am finding online. I see that installing notmuch from my system's package manager should be easy, though I probably won't get the latest, greatest. Initial configuration would seems to be easily done from the command line. Initial indexing seems to be easily done from the command line. It looks like I need to install the notmuch-mutt package. But after that it does not appear obvious from what I am reading that my above expectations are realistic. Can someone clarify what I can and cannot do with notmuch from *within* Mutt? Provide more informative online articles then perhaps I have found? TIA! -- Wishing you only the best, boB Stepp
