Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
On 2000-11-24 01:51:08 +, Jan- Hendrik Palic wrote: Why is this an option, I want to use. I don't like, when everybdy can see the Bcc- Header? Does this option make sense? Since Exim - and the relevant RFC - offer two possibilities of handling the Bcc header, it seems reasonable to give users the opportunity to use that option. -- Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
Jan- Hendrik Palic wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 02:04:30PM +1100, raf wrote: | I got a problem and I don't know, where the problem is. | | I sent yesterday a mail with several adresses in BCC- field. A friend, using | Outlook on Windows ME (I thing Outlook 5.5) is able to see the adresses, | which stand in BCC- fiel. An other friend can see them by using KMAIL on KDE | 2.0. | | My MTA is exim on potato, exim 3.12 and my mutt is a selfcompiled | mutt-1.2.5-4. Whats going wrong? | |shouldn't that be the "Bcc" field (i.e. without the "-")? Yes, youre right, but thats not the problem, why are they shown in several mua's...? What in my configuration is going wrong? sorry about that. i was being stupid. do the intended bcc recipients receive the mail? if not, then it's not being recognised as a header. maybe there's a blank line before it or the line endings are "wrong"? i'd suggest bcc'ing a message to yourself. if you receive the message, save it to a file and examine the file using od or xxd or something to look for anything wierd. what editor do you use to compose the messages? do you have edit_hdrs set in your .muttrc? mutt wouldn't even be sending the bcc header to exim if it recognised it as a bcc header. sendmail does have an option to read the headers in a message given to it, work out the recipients from the headers and then send everything except the bcc header but mutt doesn't rely on that because sendmail isn't the only mta so exim can't be the problem. raf
Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
On 2000-11-23 03:56:47 +, Jan- Hendrik Palic wrote: My MTA is exim on potato, exim 3.12 and my mutt is a selfcompiled mutt-1.2.5-4. Whats going wrong? Exim. write_bcc Type: boolean Default: yes Controls whether mutt writes out the Bcc header when preparing messages to be sent. Exim users may wish to use this. Unset that option, and you're done. What actually happens is that exim strips the Bcc header for those messages going to the To and CC recipients, but leaves it in for Bcc recipients. This behaviour is consistent with the standards, but does not match the expectation most users have from software such as sendmail. -- Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 07:26:13PM +1100, raf wrote: Hi [... Bcc-field was shown in Outlook an KMAIL... ] |sorry about that. i was being stupid. |do the intended bcc recipients receive the mail? yes, they did and they're able to read the Bcc-field |if not, then it's not being recognised as a header. |maybe there's a blank line before it or the line |endings are "wrong"? ... |i'd suggest bcc'ing a message to yourself. if you |receive the message, save it to a file and examine |the file using od or xxd or something to look for anything |wierd. what editor do you use to compose the messages? |do you have edit_hdrs set in your .muttrc? my editor is joe (new one from potato) and my own headers in muttrc: . . . my_hdr Internet: http://www.billgotchy.de my_hdr pgp-key: http://www.billgotchy.de/bin/m.asc my_hdr OS: Linux Debian 2.2r0 - potato my_hdr Private-Debian-Site: http://www.linux-debian.de . . . |mutt wouldn't even be sending the bcc header to exim |if it recognised it as a bcc header. sendmail does |have an option to read the headers in a message given |to it, work out the recipients from the headers and |then send everything except the bcc header but mutt |doesn't rely on that because sendmail isn't the |only mta so exim can't be the problem. I hope so... I'm pleased, that the system is pretty running! So long... Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" PGP signature
Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 10:26:53AM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: |On 2000-11-23 03:56:47 +, Jan- Hendrik Palic wrote: | | My MTA is exim on potato, exim 3.12 and my mutt is a selfcompiled | mutt-1.2.5-4. Whats going wrong? | |Exim. | | write_bcc | Type: boolean | Default: yes | | Controls whether mutt writes out the Bcc header when | preparing messages to be sent. Exim users may wish to use | this. | |Unset that option, and you're done. | |What actually happens is that exim strips the Bcc header for those |messages going to the To and CC recipients, but leaves it in for Bcc |recipients. This behaviour is consistent with the standards, but |does not match the expectation most users have from software such as |sendmail. Hey... it works, thnx! But a stupid question one more time: Why is this an option, I want to use. I don't like, when everybdy can see the Bcc- Header? Does this option make sense? Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" PGP signature
Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
Jan- Hendrik Palic wrote: Hi to all I got a problem and I don't know, where the problem is. I sent yesterday a mail with several adresses in BCC- field. A friend, using Outlook on Windows ME (I thing Outlook 5.5) is able to see the adresses, which stand in BCC- fiel. An other friend can see them by using KMAIL on KDE 2.0. My MTA is exim on potato, exim 3.12 and my mutt is a selfcompiled mutt-1.2.5-4. Whats going wrong? shouldn't that be the "Bcc" field (i.e. without the "-")? raf
Re: Mutt and BCC and Outlook/KMAIL
On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 02:04:30PM +1100, raf wrote: Hi | I got a problem and I don't know, where the problem is. | | I sent yesterday a mail with several adresses in BCC- field. A friend, using | Outlook on Windows ME (I thing Outlook 5.5) is able to see the adresses, | which stand in BCC- fiel. An other friend can see them by using KMAIL on KDE | 2.0. | | My MTA is exim on potato, exim 3.12 and my mutt is a selfcompiled | mutt-1.2.5-4. Whats going wrong? | |shouldn't that be the "Bcc" field (i.e. without the "-")? Yes, youre right, but thats not the problem, why are they shown in several mua's...? What in my configuration is going wrong? thnx in advance Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" PGP signature
