Re: hook to set Content-Type after editing
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 01:34:29PM +, ed wrote: I have a weird setup where any UTF message causes me to create a Content-Type of text/plain; 8bit, unknown. Is it possible to make a hook which sets the Content-Type to text/plain; 8bit, us-ascii after editing? I figure this should be simpler than correcting the underlying problem in this particular environment. If there are non-ascii characters in the message, then us-ascii would not be the appropriate charset. The default value of $send_charset is us-ascii:iso-8859-1:utf-8, which causes Mutt to try and convert your message to the first charset in that list that is applicable. To answer your question, there is no hook for changing the content type. You would have to manually edit it.
Re: hook to save all msgs in folder A to folder B?
Let's say I want to save to folder Spam.spam all the messages that have landed in folder Spam.unsure no matter who they're from or to. Or most, or even some of the messages. [...] In other words I'm looking for a save-hook or fcc-save-hook based on specific folders alone, not on message properties, unless the message-properties applied to all messages. The way I solved spam message manipulation does not involve hooks but macros and might work for you. First, I bind a save-to-spam-folder macro; in .muttrc: macro index S s=Spam.spam\n macro pager S s=Spam.spam\n (“S” is arbitrary; by default bound to `skip-quoted` which I don't use). So “Shift-S” moves the current mail message to the Spam.spam folder. In my Spam.unsure folder, if I find no ham, I can flush everything by matching all messages (“Shift-T“ then “.”, enter) then « S ». -- --|-- | Patrice Levesque http://ptaff.ca/ mutt.wa...@ptaff.ca | --|-- -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hook to save all msgs in folder A to folder B?
On Thu 15 at 06:32 AM -0500, Patrice Levesque mutt.wa...@ptaff.ca wrote: macro index S s=Spam.spam\n macro pager S s=Spam.spam\n Thank you! That did the trick. I asked in terms of hooks because I thought there might be one of those percent sequences that worked on folders or some such. Btw, you can shorten the above to: macro index,pagers S s=Spam.spam\n -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgps0ynRWYQpD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hook to save all msgs in folder A to folder B?
On Thu 15 at 06:32 AM -0500, Patrice Levesque mutt.wa...@ptaff.ca wrote: macro index S s=Spam.spam\n macro pager S s=Spam.spam\n Thank you! This does the trick. I asked in terms of a hook because I assumed there was one of those percent-sign-whatever sequences that would work per folder, but maybe not. Btw, you can shorten the above to this: macro index,pager S s=Spam.spam\n pgpqix99UkGQN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hook to save all msgs in folder A to folder B?
On Thu 15 at 03:19 PM -0500, rj r...@panix.com wrote: Btw, you can shorten the above to: macro index,pagers S s=Spam.spam\n Correction: that should be: macro index,pager S s=Spam.spam\n pgpiUEqgbbFO3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hook to save all msgs in folder A to folder B?
On Thu 15 at 01:37 AM -0500, rj r...@panix.com wrote: Let's say I want to save to folder Spam.spam all the messages that have landed in folder Spam.unsure no matter who they're from or to. Or most, or even some of the messages. What would a hook to do this look like? In other words I'm looking for a save-hook or fcc-save-hook based on specific folders alone, not on message properties, unless the message-properties applied to all messages. pgpovliprTaAU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hook syntax (was: Multiple accounts (using Gmail))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, March 5 at 08:25 AM, quoth Bill Moseley: On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:54:26AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: My point was that if you use some sort of hook for setting the From header, you can use that same hook for changing whatever settings. Ok, so I have this working to change my signature and from header when replying to a message sent *to* my gmail account (regardless of which folder the mail is in). Right then, you can use that to change your smtp_url at the same time. I'm not 100% clear on the syntax -- that is, when I have to quote (the unmy_hdr line seems to work w/o the quotes where the set signature requires the single quotes). It's an issue of parsing. Mutt re-parses (and thus de-quotes) hook commands when they are triggered. This allows for lots of complex embedding, but can result in some confusion. So, doing something like 'unmy_hdr From', no matter how many times you re-parse that, it looks the same. On the other hand, something like 'set signature=echo foo|' will change as it gets re-parsed. Let's take your examples: reply-hook . unmy_hdr From When the hook is established (i.e. read from the file), it will be understood as: reply-hook . unmy_hdr From And when it gets triggered, it will be understood as unmy_hdr From reply-hook . 'set signature=echo Bill Moseley; echo mose...@hank.org|' When it gets established: reply-hook . set signature=echo Bill Moseley; echo mose...@hank.org| And when it gets triggered, it will be understood as: set signature=echo Bill Moseley; echo mose...@hank.org| Compare that to what happens if you leave off the first set of quotes, like this: reply-hook . set signature=echo Bill Moseley; echo mose...@hank.org| When that gets established, it will be understood as: reply-hook . set signature=echo Bill Moseley; echo mose...@hank.org| And then when it gets triggered, it will be understood as: set signature=echo Bill Moseley; echo mose...@hank.org| Do you see how that can lead to trouble? But, then I have a new problem: reply-hook seems to override the folder-hook, right? All hooks override all other hooks, if that makes any sense. It works in a last hook wins method. So this reply-hook takes precedence over the folder-hook. Yes. reply-hook . 'set signature=echo Bill Moseley.; echo mose...@hank.org|' folder-hook =lists.mutt 'set signature=$HOME/.signature_mutt' How can I have a signature take precedence over the reply-hook when in the mutt folder? Use the folder-hook to change the reply-hook (or something the reply-hook relies on). Do I have to nest the reply-hook inside a folder-hook? And if so, can someone provide an example of they syntax? Yes... but the problem is that you're using a folder-hook for something it was never intended to be used for. Using the folder-hook to change your signature is like using the message-hook to change the subject line of future composed messages... you *can*, but it's going to be difficult to get right. I think it makes far more sense to base that sort of information on who you're sending to than on what folder you happen to be looking at. And, when you do that, the solution ends up being fairly simple. For example: reply-hook . \ 'set signature=~/.standardsig.txt' reply-hook '~e owner-mutt-us...@mutt.org' \ 'set signature=~/.muttsig.txt' Yes, you *can* embed reply-hooks in folder-hooks, but then things get ugly because you'd need to unhook things (the unhook is there to prevent mutt from building up absurdly long chains of redundant hooks), which interacts badly with any other reply-hooks you happen to have (i.e. they'd need to be re-established within the folder-hook too): folder-hook . \ 'unhook reply-hook ; \ reply-hook . set signature=stdsig.txt; \ reply-hook ~C m...@gmail set signature=gmailsig.txt' folder-hook =lists.mutt \ 'unhook reply-hook ; \ set signature=muttsig.txt' Does that make sense? ~Kyle - -- Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt the Younger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmwIKkACgkQBkIOoMqOI16F3wCg40KmBjyLSgAXerrmZ9ofAPXI QZIAoOmwav8HyeXtVHaZ4jBjr25tYCFq =T0B0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: hook syntax (was: Multiple accounts (using Gmail))
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:57:45PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: reply-hook . \ 'set signature=~/.standardsig.txt' reply-hook '~e owner-mutt-us...@mutt.org' \ 'set signature=~/.muttsig.txt' Yes, you *can* embed reply-hooks in folder-hooks, but then things get ugly because you'd need to unhook things (the unhook is there to prevent mutt from building up absurdly long chains of redundant hooks), which interacts badly with any other reply-hooks you happen to have (i.e. they'd need to be re-established within the folder-hook too): folder-hook . \ 'unhook reply-hook ; \ reply-hook . set signature=stdsig.txt; \ reply-hook ~C m...@gmail set signature=gmailsig.txt' folder-hook =lists.mutt \ 'unhook reply-hook ; \ set signature=muttsig.txt' Does that make sense? Yes, I think so. I'll simply change my folder-hook to be a send-hook and place it after my other send-hook lines. Thank you very much for explaining all of that. -- Bill Moseley. mose...@hank.org Sent from my iMutt
Re: Hook for changing msmtp account
Salvatore Iovene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use mutt+msmtp and want to use a different msmtp account according to what my From: is. How can I do this? In my ~/.muttrc, I have: # # Mail sending # set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp set use_envelope_from=yes set use_from=yes In my ~/.msmtprc, I have: # # main account # account mainaccount host smtp.isp.tld from [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # another # account anotheraccount host smtp.isp2.tld2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # specify default # account default : mainaccount This works well. -- Nicolas
Re: Hook for changing msmtp account
Salvatore Iovene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, but _which_ smtp server, among the ones defined in the .msmtprc file? My doubt comes from the fact that msmtp seems to identify the various smtp account by an unique name in the account property of the configuration file, and not simply by the used From:. It will choose the account to use based on the envelope from. I mean, what if I wanted then to use two smtp servers but same From: address? I suppose you want to choose the smtp server based on the current folder then. Something like this perhaps (untested): folder-hook . 'set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp --account mainaccount' folder-hook somefolder 'set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp --account anotheraccount' -- Nicolas
Re: hook on tagged attachment?
On Nov 24, 2007 12:31 AM, Dilip M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip... But when I view the attachment of a email and tag the [text/plain] attachment, and press ; r, the hooks are failing! In case I haven't given a complete info, here it is. Version: Mutt 1.5.10i Hooks I'm using. send-hook . 'set signature=~/.sig1' send-hook '~f zyz.com' 'set sig_on_top=yes; set signature=~/.sig2' send-hook '!(~f xyz.com)' 'set signature=~/.sig1' Everything seems to work file. Only when I tag the attached text/plain format for email, and reply, default hooks are getting set. How to get the hook work in attach menu? -- Dilip
Re: hook \\.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 12 at 05:53 PM, quoth Joseph: I'm reading mutt manual and it has an example: save-hook me@(turing\\.)?cs\\.hmc\\.edu$ +elkins save-hook aol\\.com$ +spam Why there is a \\.? I know singe backslash \ turn off special meaning for . double backslash would indicate that it is a \ character. It's because of mutt's sometimes inscrutable escaping rules. When mutt is reading something that isn't quoted, it strips off a level of escapes. So the following two lines are equivalent: save-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] +elkins save-hook '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' +elkins The following two lines are ALSO equivalent: save-hook . foo save-hook \. foo The way mutt's parser works, first it extracts strings to match the pattern: save-hook string1 string2 Then, string1 is saved as the regular expression that triggers the hook, and string2 is saved as the command to run. Mutt un-escapes things when interpreting the rc file to extract string1, but the backslash has to survive and be present in the regular expression. Thus, unless you quote it, you have to use two backslashes. Consider that you can also use octal escapes: save-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] +elkins When mutt interprets that, it will store string1 as [EMAIL PROTECTED]. That way you can encode unusual characters into the muttrc (such as your $from or $realname) even if your muttrc can only be in us-ascii (for whatever reason). ~Kyle - -- I think we ought always to entertain our opinions with some measure of doubt. I shouldn't wish people dogmatically to believe any philosophy, not even mine. -- Bertrand Russell -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHEBVABkIOoMqOI14RAqBHAKDTEF8bmiUD4QF/fn6964BmsDT9kwCgnf5y CGsGDAnpFlAGZyz8hPTxLro= =VQok -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: hook \\.
On 2007-10-12, I wrote On 2007-10-12, Joseph wrote Why there is a \\.? The the muttrc file is read, the first backslash is removed, ... My apologies to the list for posting this after Mr. Wheeler had posted a much more informative reply. Messages are getting delayed in a queue here today, and it appeared to me that no one had yet replied after several hours. -- David Ellement
Re: hook \\.
On 2007-10-12, Joseph wrote I'm reading mutt manual and it has an example: save-hook me@(turing\\.)?cs\\.hmc\\.edu$ +elkins save-hook aol\\.com$ +spam Why there is a \\.? I know singe backslash \ turn off special meaning for . double backslash would indicate that it is a \ character. The the muttrc file is read, the first backslash is removed, so the send-hook then gets stored with the pattern having a single backslash. -- David Ellement
Re: hook au moment du compose?
Le jeudi 28 août 2003 à 17:36, Luc Hermitte a écrit: Salut, haa ça y est mon mail est arrivé sur la liste... il a quand même mis pres d'une semaine... bizarre car il n'a pas eu besoin de modération. * On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:25:17PM +0200, Sebastien MICHEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J'ai une petite question. Je voudrais automatiser l'attachement dun fichier en fonction du contenu du mail que je viens d'ecrire. Je n'ai pas trouvé de hook correspondant a ce que je veux faire.. une idée ? Regarder la conversation qu'il y a eu sur news:comp.mail.mutt (petit doute sur le nom du groupe) au sujet des templates. Ce genre de fonctionnalités a été évoqué... effectivement google est loin de te contredire ;)... je vais regarder dans cette voix. Ou alors filtrer tes messages au moment ou tu les passes à sendmail (/exim ?). j'ai pas la main :/ (sur postfix voyons ! ;p) Parce que j'avoue d'être loin de bien connaitre mutt. J'ai d'ailleurs découvert (et j'apprécie aujourd'hui) dans tes transparents le alternate_order pour le choix des mimes prioritaires ; et je cherche toujours un moyen pour ne pas être root [EMAIL PROTECTED], mais bien Luc Hermitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] quand je réponds aux personnes qui écrivent à [EMAIL PROTECTED] seulement -- root étant le nom de mon compte sous XP. J'ai du mal a voir de quoi tu parles. Si tu parles de tes header avant l'envois du message il suffit des les modifier avec my_hdr (my_hdr From: Luc Hermitte [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Si malgres ça ton header reste root c'est qu'il est modifié après l'envoit par sendmail ou autre exchange (qui adore modifier les emails) -- @+, Sébastien aka. MichouX Même le chemin de mille lieues commence par un pas. Aussi ne crains pas d'être lent, crains seulement d'être à l'arrêt., Proverbe CHINOIS
Re: hook au moment du compose?
Bon.. ben voila comment je m'en sort: macro index \cw change-folder=TemplateCandidatureenterresend-message Chargement du mail type de Candidature. Avec un template dans la boite TemplateCandidature. C'est pas exactement ce que je voulais faire mais bon... c'est déjà ça. Autre chose de sympa (inspiré par les toggles de luc sous vim ;p): macro index h ':toggle edit_headersenter:set ?edit_headersenter' -- @+, Sébastien aka. MichouX Tant que la couleur de la peau sera plus importante que celle des yeux, nous ne connaîtrons pas la paix., Haile Selassie
Re: hook au moment du compose?
Le vendredi 29 août 2003 à 16:10, Luc Hermitte a écrit: Ou alors filtrer tes messages au moment ou tu les passes à sendmail (/exim ?). j'ai pas la main :/ (sur postfix voyons ! ;p) Tu as toujours la main. P.ex., tu peux te faire un script en ce que tu veux (perl, bash, python, ruby, C, ...) qui va détecter une chaine bien particulière et quand elle apparait, il ajoute au flux qu'il a reçu la partie encodée pour l'attachement que tu veux adjoindre. Dernière tâche de cet outil, renvoyer ce qu'il a reçu à postfix. a pas con en changant ma commande sendmail c'est ça ? Et en lisant la doc ... message-hook intervient trop tôt pour t'être utile ? Et bien messages-hook est fait pour l'evenement d'affichage du mail donc il n'a rien avoir avec le moment du compose. -- @+, Sébastien aka. MichouX L'énergie usée à atteindre des normes de qualité est inversement proportionelle au temps restant avant le prochain audit., Olivier Sax
Re: hook-list menu
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 06:23:02PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: the distinction between bloat and feature are usually subjective to one's preferences. i doubt that many users will use such a menu. besides - what shall this menu offer? Vikram - can you answer these questions for me? Well Gregor answered your questions before I could:-) The reason I am saying that this thing to be an added functionality is that hooks and macros are quite a uniq features of mutt and make it a highly customisable app. It would be really a boon for people who experiment with these features and can see what they are supplying to mutt and what its getting. Sven - just think about it. -- Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hook-list menu - add/change/delete/move items?
* Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-19 13:11]: The reason I am saying that this thing to be an added functionality is that hooks and macros are quite a uniq features of mutt and make it a highly customisable app. It would be really a boon for people who experiment with these features and can see what they are supplying to mutt and what its getting. Sven - just think about it. i certainly understand your point. and i have been discussing this with someone in Krautland, too. he wrote a simple patch which simply writes out all hooks to a file on startup. (he might also be reading this here on the list.) but like i said: i don't mind such a menu. my creation hooks and color setups would probably have benefitted from such a menu. i had to restart mutt a *lot* of times just trying out a new hook for something. you probably know the feeling install a new program and reboot the machine. :-/ anyway, if someone wants to write the code - fine. i just hope that it also has an answer to adding/removing and moving hooks... Sven
Re: hook-list menu
* On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 09:50:20PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: to write these to a file so he can monitor them. a menu would be nicer, of course, but... bloat? * Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-16 12:34]: of-course not but an added functionality. the distinction between bloat and feature are usually subjective to one's preferences. i doubt that many users will use such a menu. besides - what shall this menu offer? of course, this adds another menu with default bindings and commands. i suppose there you would use it to list the rules, show sublists by pattern, add and remove entries, and rearrange the order of them, and then maybe write out the current list to some file. how much will such a menu add in size? now, if it can be dis/enabled at compile time and if it adds less than, say, 20K, - fine! then again, should there be a menu foer each kind of hook? what about mixed hook commands? Vikram - can you answer these questions for me? Sven
Re: hook-list menu
On 020816, at 18:23:02, Sven Guckes wrote * On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 09:50:20PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: to write these to a file so he can monitor them. a menu would be nicer, of course, but... bloat? * Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-16 12:34]: of-course not but an added functionality. the distinction between bloat and feature are usually subjective to one's preferences. i doubt that many users will use such a menu. besides - what shall this menu offer? About three years ago, Byrial Jensen had a patch provided hook menus. It listed hooks, and allowed one to tag and delete hooks (if I recall correctly). -- David Ellement
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 14:11]: BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. I was talking about Mutt ;) So was I. more specifically, I was talking about the regular expression library used within mutt. send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Just tested it and it doesn't work... hmm.. the pattern might need quoting: send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' try again. does it work now? Nope... Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Hook question - making a point
Hi, * Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 08:18]: send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' try again. does it work now? Nope... send-hook ~t . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! ~t . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Yes, this works. But it's not far from what I had: send-hook '~t .' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook !'~t .' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Thanks anyway. Regards, Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Hook question
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jerome -- ...and then Jerome De Greef said... % % I think I have the solution: Yay! % % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. It works as is. But you're right, I thought .* was doing what ..* does. I'm not that good with regular expressions. BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 09:25]: % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. It works as is. But you're right, I thought .* was doing what ..* does. I'm not that good with regular expressions. BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. The operator '+' might not be available at all. But the usual workaround for 1 or more times of X is to use XX*. Anyway, if you simply need a default rule for all addresses then you need to check for just only character in the address, right? Checking for more is simply superfluous. Also, the pattern in the send-hook command is applied to the addresses in TO/CC, anyway, so all you need is to give part of the address: send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Sven [who always sends with a replyable address] -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUTT SETUP TIPS: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html MUTT HOOKS EXAMPLE: send-hook . 'set signature=~/.sig.mine' send-hook guckes 'set signature='
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 09:25]: % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. It works as is. But you're right, I thought .* was doing what ..* does. I'm not that good with regular expressions. BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. I was talking about Mutt ;) The operator '+' might not be available at all. But the usual workaround for 1 or more times of X is to use XX*. Anyway, if you simply need a default rule for all addresses then you need to check for just only character in the address, right? Checking for more is simply superfluous. Right... Also, the pattern in the send-hook command is applied to the addresses in TO/CC, anyway, so all you need is to give part of the address: send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Just tested it and it doesn't work... Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 14:11]: BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. I was talking about Mutt ;) So was I. more specifically, I was talking about the regular expression library used within mutt. send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Just tested it and it doesn't work... hmm.. the pattern might need quoting: send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' try again. does it work now? Sven
Re: Hook question
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-15 08:20 -0500: send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' The first hook is used whenever I hit 'r' and there is a 'To:' line followed by any address. The second hook is used when I hit 'F' (newsgroup followup). It matches any 'To:' line where the address is not anything... thus matching no 'To:' line at all. I would like to set my Bcc headers on that basis, but it seems to work randomly only! send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mymail' send-hook !'~t .*' 'unmy_hdr Bcc' I would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do in order to turn off my Bcc header automatically when posting. -Andre msg25620/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question - describe your problem!
* Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 18:34]: I would like to set my Bcc headers on that basis, but it seems to work randomly only! send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mymail' send-hook !'~t .*' 'unmy_hdr Bcc' I would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do in order to turn off my Bcc header automatically when posting. send-hook . unmy_hdr * this should turn off *all* extra headers. set now set your BCC header as you need. btw, your first send-hook reads like this: When TO contains an address of arbitrary length then set the following BCC line. And the length can be ZERO, too! Get to know your regular expressions! (And next time start a new thread, ok?) I think it's time for a workshop on regex here in Berlin.. Anyway, you did not describe what the hooks shall do. And it's a waste of time trying to guess it. Sven [read da book! see sig..] -- Title: Mastering Regular Expressions Author:Jeffrey Friedl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Publisher: O'Reilly, 1997, 1-56592-257-3 URL: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex/
Re: Hook question - describe your problem!
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-16 20:26 -0500: * Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 18:34]: I would like to set my Bcc headers on that basis, but it seems to work randomly only! send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mymail' send-hook !'~t .*' 'unmy_hdr Bcc' I would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do in order to turn off my Bcc header automatically when posting. send-hook . unmy_hdr * this should turn off *all* extra headers. set now set your BCC header as you need. btw, your first send-hook reads like this: When TO contains an address of arbitrary length then set the following BCC line. And the length can be ZERO, too! Get to know your regular expressions! (And next time start a new thread, ok?) I think it's time for a workshop on regex here in Berlin.. Anyway, you did not describe what the hooks shall do. And it's a waste of time trying to guess it. Sven, thank you very much for your response and your time. What I'm trying to accomplish is more or less the same Jerome (the original poster) wants. We use mutt with nntp-patch and want to set headers according to the fact if we are mailing or posting. Jerome came up with the solution above which indeed works for From-headers, but not really (read: consistantly) for Bcc-headers, at least for me. What I want is to test if there is a To-header or not - if there is one, I'm mailing, if there is none, I'm posting. If I'm mailing, add a Bcc header (I'm Bccing all mail to myself to keep track of it). If not, do not add this header because this results in an ugly To: undiclosed recipients ; line in my postings. I've tried an otherwise empty .muttrc file and send-hook . unmy_hdr * send-hook '~t ..*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mail' send-hook !'~t ..*' 'my_hdr Bcc: news' Testing the settings: 1. (mail) no bcc 2. (mail) bcc: mail 3. (news) bcc: mail 4. (news) bcc: news So it seems to work, but the send-hook is one message late. -Andre msg25625/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
I think I have the solution: send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' The first hook is used whenever I hit 'r' and there is a 'To:' line followed by any address. The second hook is used when I hit 'F' (newsgroup followup). It matches any 'To:' line where the address is not anything... thus matching no 'To:' line at all. It's maybe a 'dirty trick' but it does it ;) Jerome * Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 13:14 -0500: * Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome Sorry I messed my other posting up. folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' That cannot work as I don't change folders between replying to the newsgroup (hitting 'F') or personnally to a user (hitting 'r'). Well I tested it once, not enough... When I'm in my mbox mutt and hit reply, it get my_hdr mail, when I switch to a newsgroup and hit reply, I get my_hdr news, as expected. But when I go back to mbox mutt and hit reply, still my_hdr news, and I don't see why. Same thing when I replace nntp above with . It could have been done using ~h and searching for Newsgroups: in the header but send-hook doesn't allow to use ~h. Yeah that would make things really easy. And I cannot use ~t because when you reply to a newsgroup you don't have any To: line in the header... When you hit reply via mail, there is a to header ;) -Andre -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Hook question
Jerome -- ...and then Jerome De Greef said... % % I think I have the solution: Yay! % % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. % ... % It's maybe a 'dirty trick' but it does it ;) Those are the best :-) % % Jerome HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg2/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome folder-hook nntp my_hdr bla1 folder-hook !nntp my_hdr bla2 -Andre msg25496/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome Sorry I messed my other posting up. folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' -Andre msg25498/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
Andre, et al -- ...and then Andre Berger said... % % folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' % folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' Since one doesn't change folders without leaving the folder, you might say, couldn't the send-hooks be left out and you just set the From: header when you enter each folder? % % -Andre % HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25500/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook question
* Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-14 09:13 -0500: Hi, I use the nntp patch from vvv. I have folder hooks to change my email for the newsgroups to avoid spam. When i press F to write a follow-up, my address is changed accordingly. Now my question is: is there a way to have my 'normal address' used when I hit 'r' to personnaly reply to a newsgroup user ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jerome Sorry I messed my other posting up. folder-hook nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: news' folder-hook !nntp send-hook '~t ^.*$' 'my_hdr From: mail' That cannot work as I don't change folders between replying to the newsgroup (hitting 'F') or personnally to a user (hitting 'r'). It could have been done using ~h and searching for Newsgroups: in the header but send-hook doesn't allow to use ~h. And I cannot use ~t because when you reply to a newsgroup you don't have any To: line in the header... Thanks anyway ;) Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Hook?
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % * On 16-01-02 at 18:11 % * Jeremy Blosser said % % On Jan 16, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: ... % att: somebloke ... % % I'm not that up on fcc-hook stuff but in general doing % % fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 % fcc-save-hook ~s ^att: =Outbox/someplace % % should get what you want. The first will continue to apply as the default % and anything that matches the second will use it instead. % % Okay guys, I now have: % % fcc-save-hook ~s att: =Outbox/att Is this before or after your default fcc-save-hook? Have you tried it the other way around? % % does it work? % does if @#*! You might try creating a folder-hook for =Outbox/att and then sending them from there... % % Bit of a tough bugger this one :) HTH HAND % % Cheers % % -- % % Nick Wilson % % Tel: +45 3325 0688 % Fax: +45 3325 0677 % Web: www.explodingnet.com % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg23203/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 17-01-02 at 11:36 * David T-G said % % Okay guys, I now have: % % fcc-save-hook ~s att: =Outbox/att Is this before or after your default fcc-save-hook? Have you tried it the other way around? It was *after* my default fcc-save-hook, now I've put it the other way around it works beutifully! % % does it work? % does if @#*! You might try creating a folder-hook for =Outbox/att and then sending them from there... Well, that's a good idea too, Thanks very much David and the rest of you guys for all the help on this one. Take care - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8Rqx8HpvrrTa6L5oRAvNVAJ4jM401XxzHzjIKLDUBH8ia2QTMgQCeJnar P/A+RGjaI2kQ1Z7xAE6ek+w= =/43/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Hook?
* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16-01-2002 14:26]: | I'm about to send out a whole bunch of mails and I wondered what would | be the easiest way to ensure that they all go to the same Outbox for | easy reference. You mean a bunch of separate mails? Then you could just issue the set fcc=yourOutbox command, send the mails, and reset it when you're done. If all mails match a certain pattern (section 4.2 of TFM), you could use a send-hook for this purpose, like: send-hook ~s SUBJECT set fcc=yourOutbox | At the moment all my stuff is saved to ~/Mail/Outbox/name_of_recipient | | What do you think? Hope this is what you meant, and that this helps. -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Said the attractive, cigar-smoking housewife to her girl-friend: I got started one night when George came home and found one burning in the ashtray. msg23156/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:42:43PM +0100, René Clerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean a bunch of separate mails? Then you could just issue the set fcc=yourOutbox command, send the mails, and reset it when you're done. My mutt don't know fcc, I think you meant record. Nicolas
Re: Hook?
* On 16-01-02 at 14:47 * René Clerc said * Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16-01-2002 14:26]: | I'm about to send out a whole bunch of mails and I wondered what would | be the easiest way to ensure that they all go to the same Outbox for | easy reference. You mean a bunch of separate mails? Then you could just issue the set fcc=yourOutbox command, send the mails, and reset it when you're done. Yep, that's right. I guess that's what I'll be needing. Hope this is what you meant, and that this helps. It sure does, thanks Rene. -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg23158/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
Hi, Newbie question: Is it possible to have set record = outbox depending on sender thanks, Phil. On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:47:40PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:42:43PM +0100, René Clerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean a bunch of separate mails? Then you could just issue the set fcc=yourOutbox command, send the mails, and reset it when you're done. My mutt don't know fcc, I think you meant record. Nicolas
Re: Hook?
* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16-01-2002 14:49]: | On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:42:43PM +0100, René Clerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | You mean a bunch of separate mails? Then you could just issue the set | fcc=yourOutbox command, send the mails, and reset it when you're | done. | | My mutt don't know fcc, I think you meant record. Of course. Stupide me ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) No woman, no cry. -Bob Marley msg23161/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Philip Wittamore wrote: Hi, Newbie question: Is it possible to have set record = outbox depending on sender thanks, Phil. You can use fcc-hook for setting the record folder based on the recipient, if you're changing $from in a hook to get different senders, you can just set $record where ever you set $from. -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg23162/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
* On 16-01-02 at 14:47 * René Clerc said If all mails match a certain pattern (section 4.2 of TFM), you could use a send-hook for this purpose, like: send-hook ~s SUBJECT set fcc=yourOutbox Well, I'm afraid that I'm a bit of a dummy, after much reading of TFM I'm none the wiser. Here's the deal: each mail that I am sending that needs to be in a 'special' Outbox has a subject line that starts with att: So some examples would be: att: somebloke att: somegeezer att: somedoris and I'd like then to all be in the same place. I can't use 'set record' because I have fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 So I need to go with a subject line match. A little guidance here would be very appreciated indeed. Many thanks -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg23163/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
On 020116, at 17:30:03, Nick Wilson wrote each mail that I am sending that needs to be in a 'special' Outbox has a subject line that starts with att: and I'd like then to all be in the same place. I can't use 'set record' because I have fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 For fcc-hook and save-hook, the hook processing stops with the first match. Perhaps this would work: fcc-hook ~s att: =Outbox/att fcc-hook . =Outbox/%0 save-hook .=Outbox/%0 -- David Ellement
Re: Hook?
On Jan 16, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: each mail that I am sending that needs to be in a 'special' Outbox has a subject line that starts with att: So some examples would be: att: somebloke att: somegeezer att: somedoris and I'd like then to all be in the same place. I can't use 'set record' because I have fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 So I need to go with a subject line match. I'm not that up on fcc-hook stuff but in general doing fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 fcc-save-hook ~s ^att: =Outbox/someplace should get what you want. The first will continue to apply as the default and anything that matches the second will use it instead. msg23165/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 16-01-02 at 18:11 * Jeremy Blosser said On Jan 16, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: each mail that I am sending that needs to be in a 'special' Outbox has a subject line that starts with att: So some examples would be: att: somebloke att: somegeezer att: somedoris and I'd like then to all be in the same place. I can't use 'set record' because I have fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 So I need to go with a subject line match. I'm not that up on fcc-hook stuff but in general doing fcc-save-hook . =Outbox/%0 fcc-save-hook ~s ^att: =Outbox/someplace should get what you want. The first will continue to apply as the default and anything that matches the second will use it instead. Okay guys, I now have: fcc-save-hook ~s att: =Outbox/att does it work? does if @#*! Bit of a tough bugger this one :) Cheers - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RfSMHpvrrTa6L5oRAv0qAJ4iEt7QHmyJRnGUcL24qBiAclDtywCfWnH9 9PlROyO6rxhbSZM/x0Eikx8= =K/jW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: hook problem
Benjamin Michotte muttered: I've got those hook # close all threads folder-hook . push \eV and so, when I start mutt, i've got a beep and this error message: There are no messages. If there are no message in your $spoolfile collapsing threads fails. Just ignore the message. Also, I close all threads by default and have set set uncollapse_jump = yes set collapse_unread = yes but is there a way to open threads with new or unread message when opening a mailbox ? unset collapse_unread last question: how can i set mutt to ask to open mailbox with unread messages ? I've set nomark_old=yes but it seems to don't work. Check the the manual for the mailboxes command. If you have new mail in a folder that is listed as a mailbox press c for change-folder and see what happens. :) HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: hook? [SOLVED]
* Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED], 20010325 00:09 +0100: I wonder if it's possible to execute the following command automatically on all but "!" and my IO mailbox: "^T~A\nT!(~p|~P|~Q|~F)~d2w\nd" I finally had the right idea this morning. What I wanted to do -- marking everything not directly concerning myself or being flagged, AND older than two weeks, for deletion -- is a "native" job for the scoring mechanism. So the solution is: score '!(~p|~P|~Q|~F)~d2w' - Andre Berger[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Re: hook/macro/push newbie problem
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 07:00:17PM -0200, Sergio Bruder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to filter my folders to show only my new messages, with threads collapsed: folder-hook .push "limit~N\n" folder-hook .push collapse-all But that "\n" isnt working. Any clues? Try enter instead. -- Bob Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "For example, OS/360 devotes 26 bytes of the permanently resident date-turnover routine to the proper handling of December 31 on leap years (when it is Day 366). That might have been left to the operator." -- Fred Brooks, _The Mythical Man-Month_, on wasting resources
Re: hook permanance across folders
Nico -- ...and then Nico Hailey said... % I have a question. How do you unset folder-hooks when you are % no longer in that folder? You have to set a default hook that matches all folders. To fix your problem noted here, try folder-hook . 'unmy_hdr Approved:' folder-hook . 'unmy_hdr To:' *before* your specific folder-hook statements. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! "Why2k? Well, I didn't think at the time that I could charge any more!" Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
