[MLO] Re: New functional
I frequently include links to files in the Notes of a particular action. MLO let's em click on these links and open the file. It works with local file links, and also web links (URL's). Try right-clicking on the notes and check the options there. Of course, this syncs with the cloud without great delays because the actual files are never copied, just the links. Obviously, this means the local links are only useful at the same device where you created them... Best regards, Pgr On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:21:03 AM UTC, Paul wrote: > > Are you going to develop and implement new functional, which will provide > the possibility to attach the files to the task in MLO? I think it will be > good function. Some time i really need it while using MLO. > > Thank you. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/_RHdpdSMKXYJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO
- If we are talking about ultimate commercial success, it would be sufficient to follow the road map of a top developer, like for example, Evernote - Evernote has fully functional native applications on the two major desktop OSs - Has somewhat less functional (but more UI optimized) native support on the various mobile OSs - Has a sufficiently functional web interface - Based on the above, MLO is not far behind, relatively speaking! - MLO's strength is in the nuanced interface for a major desktop OS - Even if/when a web version is available, we should not look to it for a full set of features, because the web technologies of today are too clumsy to replicate the winning UI features which we all love in MLO - Further OS expansion, that is, to ensure "a future", would be based on total market share/utilization vs development effort - I doubt that the various Linux implementations are on this map, nor should they be - MLO is not open source, just because you choose an open source OS does not mean that all your favorite apps will suddenly be supported - When you can run Microsoft Project on Raspberry Pi, then this line of concerns will be more relevant. Perhaps this should have been my first point instead of last On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:44:29 AM UTC-6, Darius wrote: > > I've checked a MLO roadmap and I must say I don't see a good future for > MLO . MLO is doing a big mistake: no web app or API for MLO cloud, there is > even no basic support for web planned . Now MLO is just not a true multi OS > device. > > I've have 3 new machines and on every of them I cannot use MLO. One is > Raspberry PI, one is laptop with Ubuntu, one is VMware with Lubuntu for my > TV ( I have Windows PC and Galaxy note which I am using fine with MLO) . I > know, this is Linux and Linux is not supported, but the problem is bigger: > > Now we have Windows RT released. How to use MLO? > As in my example I have some machines with Linux, how to use MLO? > If windows 8 fails, and some people will turn to Mac/Linux, what to do? > If I bought chrome book, how to use MLO? > > In short I don't think the developement for all the OS will be fast enough > without any web app... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/68OvuiV4FOcJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] New to MLO - Having problems setting up context
I'm just today new to MLO and downloaded the trial version to my android phone. I'm excited that this might be a good replacement for my paper day planner I've used for years. My problem/question is this: I added a couple of tasks that I wanted to assign contexts to. The first one, it asked me to create a new context, which I did. Now when I go to add a context to a different task, it just shows me a drop down list with my one context with no option to add another new context. The PDF manual I downloaded seems to be for the Windows desktop version. Can anyone tell me how to add more than one context in my android version? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/g39fkY4AaJ4J. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] New to MLO - Having problems setting up context
Hello!
On MLO Android: Open contexts from MLO home screen ("@ and locations")
click Menu and select command: "Add Context".
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM, gheddy wrote:
> I'm just today new to MLO and downloaded the trial version to my android
> phone. I'm excited that this might be a good replacement for my paper day
> planner I've used for years.
>
> My problem/question is this: I added a couple of tasks that I wanted to
> assign contexts to. The first one, it asked me to create a new context,
> which I did. Now when I go to add a context to a different task, it just
> shows me a drop down list with my one context with no option to add another
> new context. The PDF manual I downloaded seems to be for the Windows
> desktop version.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to add more than one context in my android version?
>
> Thanks!
>
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[MLO] Coming from Desktop to Android...
Hello,
I've been using MLO on Windows for a few years, now I bought an Android
Phone (Nexus S) and am evaluating MLO there. So far, I'm really liming it.
First, the praise:
- it's quite complete application, very powerful even on Android
- I think the free/pro differences are quite well designed and the price is
ok (it's the cloud monthly fee that doesn't seem right to me, but I'll just
use wi-fi sync)
What is making me sad / feature requests!
- Colors! I really miss the basic formattings that I have on my desktop,
red, green, bold, highlight, invert colors, etc. These are not just
aesthetic issues, this is about managing what catches my eye, and that is
VERY important when looking at a list of tasks. It would be important to
have this on Android, even if it is just showing the formatting done on the
desktop, without being able to change it while mobile (I realize the full
UI for changing formatting is a lot of work - I suppose just showing them
would be far easier to implement).
- I would like to remove that "microphone" button on the widget. It is
totally useless except for English speaking users (not the language I use
everyday) and takes up a lot of space. I use the widget with 2 squares
width I would prefer seeing the name of the view ("Active Starred") instead
of just ("Acti..."). The buttons are too big for a widget anyway.
- Scrollable widgets are really cool. I have never seen a horizontally
scrollable widget, is it possible? Probably not, because it would screw up
trying to flick to the other pages of your home screen. BUT IF IT IS, oh,
what powerful possibilities it would bring for MLO... flicking the widget
sideways to move to another context or view, as I get home, as I go
outside, etc.
- if the above is not possible, I would ask the brilliant programmers
designing MLO to come up with a design that makes it easier to switch views
or contexts in the widget, without having to go down into two levels of
menus. Multiply the power of the widget!
- let me automate switching the view on the widget with a program like
Tasker by providing the simplest API ("change widget view to X").
I realize this is a huge product nowadays and the feature request process
is very scientific, which doesn't leave me much hope, but I'd be happy to
just hear if somebody else agrees with me on any of these issues.
Thanks in advance!
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[MLO] Just when I thought I was a power user, I found dependencies
Hi. Imagine my amazement when I found yet another feature, dependencies! Having used it about 30 seconds, I have these questions: 1. What's the difference between setting dependencies and selecting "Tasks must be completed in order"? 2. Once I told task B that it was a dependency of the task A above it, in the project, I expected its due date would instantly change to the same as the task A it depends on. It didn't. More generally, I should never be seeing a lower level task starting BEFORE the project task above it. Any advice? Do you use dependencies? After all, I've gone 6 months without knowing they even exist. Michael Emerald, CFA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/michael.emerald Boston Plein Air Artists Group: http://painter.meetup.com/84/ Art Blog: http://emeraldartandphotography.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Just when I thought I was a power user, I found dependencies
Dependencies tell MLO that a task may never be considered a "next action" or "available" while incomplete dependencies exist. This is only prevalent if you pay attention to the way it colors (or may be configured to color) your outline, or if you use todo view. "Tasks must be completed in order" operates on the same premise; instead of all tasks underneath being considered "available", only the next action is considered available. *However* just because it is the next task in line and "must be completed in order" says the task is the next one to do, it is *not* considered available if any dependencies say it can't be done yet. To my knowledge, nothing in MLO automatically adjusts any of your task options. You have to use filters for things like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/6XX99RRyIYwJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
RE: [MLO] Just when I thought I was a power user, I found dependencies
I used dependencies for a while when they were first introduced but haven't used them for a while - partly for the reasons you identified - so I am not an expert. But from recollection, the effect of making task B dependent on task A is that Task B can only become active once Task A is completed. And I can answer A: essentially the dependencies feature is a more sophisticated version of Tasks must be completed in order. The additional capabilities it brings are (for example), the ability for the completion of one task to 'make active' more than one task, or to make active a task in a different branch. As you point out it doesn't affect due dates (or start dates) of the dependent tasks (I think this is true) and for this reason, there is limited value in having a lag option. If we ever get a calendar/planning facility where you can clearly see dates when you plan to start work on a particular task, then I could see the dependency feature becoming much more valuable provided that a) the start and/or due dates (not sure which) of the dependent tasks are made dependent on the preceding task; and b) a lag option was introduced. I suspect that both of these are quite challenging to implement. Richard From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Emerald, CFA Sent: 14 November 2012 6:35 PM To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Just when I thought I was a power user, I found dependencies Hi. Imagine my amazement when I found yet another feature, dependencies! Having used it about 30 seconds, I have these questions: 1. What's the difference between setting dependencies and selecting "Tasks must be completed in order"? 2. Once I told task B that it was a dependency of the task A above it, in the project, I expected its due date would instantly change to the same as the task A it depends on. It didn't. More generally, I should never be seeing a lower level task starting BEFORE the project task above it. Any advice? Do you use dependencies? After all, I've gone 6 months without knowing they even exist. Michael Emerald, CFA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/michael.emerald Boston Plein Air Artists Group: http://painter.meetup.com/84/ Art Blog: http://emeraldartandphotography.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Coming from Desktop to Android...
I appreciate anyone who takes the time to offer suggestions, but I have to
voice a strong opinion in the opposite direction regarding the value of the
microphone button on the Android widget. I use it every day, and find it
invaluable. In fact, I find it to be one of the best features in Android
MLO.
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:31:11 AM UTC-6, Pgr wrote:
>
> - I would like to remove that "microphone" button on the widget. It is
> totally useless except for English speaking users (not the language I use
> everyday) and takes up a lot of space. I use the widget with 2 squares
> width I would prefer seeing the name of the view ("Active Starred") instead
> of just ("Acti..."). The buttons are too big for a widget anyway.
>
>
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Re: [MLO] Currently I see no future in MLO
POPPYCOCK!!! Linux has been around a LONG time to not find an MLO version for it, which has also been around for enough years. What the heck do you think Android is! Points are well taken that a web interface at least bridges in the mean time. Even better, java (yes, ick, but better than nothing), and be done with it all. It is chicken and egg to say Linux is a 'lesser' market when there is no version to even find out if a market exists. +1 for linux, already, for Pete's sake. (Whomever Pete is.) On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:51:21 UTC-5, Richard C wrote: > > Yup – agree. Absolutely no point in supporting platforms that have a tiny > fraction of the market. And in terms of my situation, I can’t see where I > would use a web based interface as I am either working at my computer or I > have my Smartphone with me. > > I think Andrey obviously needs to keep an eye on the market and where a > platform is taking off in volume, then it probably makes sense to support > that but no point in spending valuable developer effort on platforms where > either the market is small; or there is no business case. > > > *From:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > mylifeo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Trish Putnam > *Sent:* 06 November 2012 10:06 PM > *To:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [MLO] Currently I see no future in MLO > > Valid point, Michael, and I agree that the development effort doesn't > need to support all of the possible systems out there > directly. However, go back to Darius's point that there's no web > interface. It's not ideal, but it would alleviate the pain if there were > SOME way to make use of MLO from devices that aren't currently supported, > such as a way to access your cloud-living data via a web-based UI. At this > point, if your device isn't supported you don't have an option to work > around it. > > A web-based UI for MLO cloud would certainly provide at least basic > crossplatform support for any internet-connected device, which would be a > decent ROI for a single development effort vs. trying to guess which > platforms should be supported quickly. > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Michael Emerald, CFA > > > wrote: > > The “other side” (me) says that of all the PIM managers I’ve used, this > one is foolproof, useful, rock solid, and increases productivity > enormously. I sense that the product will evolve with your own needs below > over time. Then again, as a business consultant I’d ask whether catering > to the lesser-used systems is a worthwhile investment of programming > resources. > The history of the product amply demonstrates that the product isn't going to evolve - there is no demonstrable development interest shown in not being Windows centric. > *From:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > mylifeo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Darius > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2012 04:44 > *To:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [MLO] Currently I see no future in MLO > > I've checked a MLO roadmap and I must say I don't see a good future for > MLO . MLO is doing a big mistake: no web app or API for MLO cloud, there is > even no basic support for web planned . Now MLO is just not a true multi OS > device. > > I've have 3 new machines and on every of them I cannot use MLO. One is > Raspberry PI, one is laptop with Ubuntu, one is VMware with Lubuntu for my > TV ( I have Windows PC and Galaxy note which I am using fine with MLO) . I > know, this is Linux and Linux is not supported, but the problem is bigger: > > Now we have Windows RT released. How to use MLO? > . . . (Reminder: Please remember to trim your posts.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/NeVvtfKKdqcJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO
On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 02:43:12 UTC-5, lrando wrote: > > BRAVO. Instead of six or more development branches, MLO could have just > two, both web based, one for pc and one for mobile. > Or just one, java. (And let's remember pc = personal computer, not windows. My PC runs Linux.) > I'm glad to see someone else point this out. I brought this up within the > past year in this forum, and subsequently rely more on toodledo for all my > personal stuff, and MLO to just simply augment Microsoft OneNote for > tracking my workflow in the office. Glad OneNote works for you. Do you know when MS will be bringing it to Android and/or Linux? Let's remember, the goal is to get away from proprietary dependencies, such as upon Exchange, Outlook, or anything else MS, for that matter. > > If MLO didn't do heirarchical organization the way it does, I wouldn't use > it at all. > Something else you may not have run across is that MLO uses godaddy for > some of their services which is blocked by our corporate policies and may > be blocked by yours too. > Could you speak to which services? I assume not just their DNS registration? > There is an android app in google play that works great but has no pc > equivalent, but then thats where you use toodledo's web interface. > Toodledo does not have subtasks. 1 level of subtask does not subtasks make. (They should be ashamed of themselves for their misleading marketing-speak.) > Its called ULTIMATE TO-DO LIST. It looks ugly but thats because it uses a > black background to conserve the battery. > Michael Linenberger has an article on his blog about mobile task > management and compensating for device OS platform differences. > http://masteryourworkday.com/what-tasks-server-are-you-using > Sadly, that's not viable. vis a vis mlo - it does not have the richness / flexibility offered by mlo. Google has a poor subset of mlo, so once you move to the desktop, all the wonderfulness (of native UTDL) is lost. You can not sync (as far as I know) the wonderfulness to use it anywhere other than the pda. So, for me, I'm back to praying to mlo, having just delved into UTDL a little bit. And Toodledo does not have subtasks. Further, from what I could see of the UTDL interface, there is not near the flexibility of the mlo desktop in terms of filtering. Android mlo is somewhat better. In coming back to look at it again, I ASSUME Android mlo will get better in this area over time. It seems the only thing in active development at mlo. (vis a vis non-Windows desktop, non-proprietary sync'ing.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/Ck67JBgMP5MJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO
On Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:56:50 UTC-5, Richard C wrote: > > You raise some interesting points about collaboration/team use using MLO > which by co-incidence I was also thinking about today. The conclusion > that I came to was that MLO is very much a personal organisational tool > that individuals use to manage (and ideally plan) their day to day/hour by > hour work. > Agreed. Sadly. But ... > I think it would be very difficult to turn it into a tool in which teams > shared a single task hierarchy. > Clearly not, as this is one of the selling points of the cloud sync. (Slap an ownership / permissions field on a record and get on with your day? Which presumably has already happened if cloud sharing is working.) (Let alone the premium, network, version.) > I think other tools (web based) are better suited to manage teams and > that’s the way it should remain. > Therein lies the conflict - I am a member of many different teams. Let me pull my tasks from all of them into my one central mlo interface. Also, I would postulate, using multiple platforms as I do, needing to have a consistent mlo view available on all platforms all the time, I would argue that multi-platform / multi-device is all but tantamount to multi-user. i.e. You solve the one, you mostly if not completely solve the other. [Earlier in the thread is the observation that a web interface is all but de rigeur. So, I am certainly not alone in needing to use whatever platform I'm near. (Somehow laptops have become desktops, in this apparently ubiquitous world of wi-fi.) 'tis all a puzzle.] > As far as I am aware there are no plans to turn it into a team/corporate > tool (but I have no insight here – beyond what Andrey posts). > Too late, already essentially being marketed that way. e.g. Multi-person cloud sync / network version. > Would be interested in other people’s views. > Would be interested in Andrey's views! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/gkIAG-AoMM8J. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO
On Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:16:49 UTC-5, Malibu wrote: > > Web based services are the technical junk food of the 21st century. It is > so enticing to embrace them but look at the articles popping up about > cyberspying, and we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. Your company's > intellectual property deserves protection which can only come from > relentless patching, audit trails, and a guarantee to you the consumer that > the information you put in that service is and will always remain yours. > There also needs to be real penalties when security is breached that are in > line with damages caused and the service should be able to demonstrate > monthly that it has not yet occurred. All these things can easily double or > triple cost. > > If all these things are not in place then you are really just putting your > property out there on the hope that you are anonymous enough so as not to > attract the wrong kind of attention. My company has very strict rules about > using in house services only and I am absolutely sure many more will > follow. > > Is that a hornets nest that MLO wants? > This is all FUD and a red herring. All is true, web interface or not. Web has nothing to do with it. It's true now (with the non-web application, let alone Android - demonstrating that we're already there that you're warning against). If it's on a computer, it's at risk. Deal. If our heinies are already hanging out, and they are, let's at least conveniently hang ourselves out to dry, with a java version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/fnBojweVVOkJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Currently I see no future in MLO
BONUS! Thanks for the post (and the other one mentioning wine as viable)! I didn't know that - too many apps over too many years, I suppose, to remember that this one DOES work. Sadly, I can't run wine - running 64-bit Kubuntu LTE, and somewhere along the line, Debian I expect, has botched the dependencies. Attempts to install it wants to replace a huge amount of my system, including the gui, with different 32-bit versions. (Same problem botches me from installing Skype.) I'm (faintly) hoping that firing up the latest SuSE on equivalent hardware at some point won't have the same problem. On Friday, 9 November 2012 14:30:29 UTC-5, JB wrote: > > > As in my example I have some machines with Linux, how to use MLO? > I'm running MLO through wine on my Linux Mint 13 (based on ubuntu 12) > machine and it runs AWESOME. Everything I've tried so far works, > seamlessly and fast, just like on my Windows machine, and looks great. It > was easy to install too. > . . . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/t-3P5aT1IIIJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
