[MLO] Re: Newbie Question: Does MLO have 'Areas of Focus'?

2014-12-03 Thread Dwight Arthur
John: I'm having a problem with this thread because it has too many open 
issues. This takes something away from the usefulness of the forum for 
other users because the result is that a discussion that could be helpful 
to someone else (eg how to keep certain contexts out of the to-do list) is 
hidden in the postscripts of some other discussion (eg how to manage an 
area of focus). So I'm going to respond here to your area of focus question 
and start new threads for answers to your postscripts.

Using nested contexts, as I suggested, is useful if your areas of focus are 
isomorphic to your contexts, that is, they fall in the same general 
structure. Your areas of focus are orthogonal to your contexts, that is 
they go in a different suggestion. In this case I agree with the posts from 
Richard, Andrei and Pottster that your areas of focus should probably be 
the basis for your outline structure. So your outline would have top level 
branches like work, relationships, etc and there might be a next level of 
branches for each job, each relationship, or whatever. Then, contexts would 
represent what kind of task, or what you need to do the task, or whatever. 
You would use context filtering to select tasks relevant to the tools you 
have and the place you are, and use zoom-in to select the area of focus.

Does this sound right to you? Note that you can build a view with a 
particular zoom built into it, and save it in a tab for easy access.
-Dwight

On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:45:11 PM UTC-5, John Smith wrote:


 Hello 

 Newbie question:
 Does MLO have an equivalent of GTD Areas of Focus e.g. Work, Body/Mind, 
 Life Learning, Relationships etc ?

 I guess I am looking for a single-click to JUST see stuff that relates to 
 say Work. 
 Presumably this could be done with Context tags in some way... but that 
 would be clunky.
 Ultimately I suppose it's about having a second tier of filtering.

 I see that there was some discussion by in 2005 about this but what is the 
 current position?

 With thanks
  


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[MLO] Re: Newbie Question: Does MLO have 'Areas of Focus'?

2014-12-03 Thread John Smith
Hi Dwight

Apologies for moving the goal posts mid-thread. I guess I was leary of 
starting too many threads - it's hard to know how different communities 
like to work.


The more I think about it the more I realise that I have absolutely no idea 
how best to use either folders or Context tags. 

Fwiw, the only other system I have used 'in anger' (GTDNext) simply gives 
you a list of your context tags across the top of the page. And in a single 
click you immediately filter whatever it is you are looking at to that tag. 
How much more easy and intuitive compared to MLO is that !!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KLIPffjVR44/VH-Y1Z_n2yI/AMU/Nyj3aO6eW3g/s1600/delme_MLO_02b.gif
Likewise GTDNext has entirely separate fields for 
a) Context (tag)
b) Area (of focus)
c) List (Inbox/Active/Sheduled/Waiting/Someday) 

And by being separate fields there is a lot less setting up  general 
confusion for the new user. 

To be honest I still only half understand what you say about how to use/how 
best to MLO - especially for rapid, as few clicks and keystrokes as 
possible views of my data. 

e.g. When you say my Outline would have top branches like... do you mean 
the hierarchical structure of Folders? And when you talk about setting up 
some Context filtering how is that best done? Do I need to build and entire 
view for each Context? If so this is painful stuff, indeed!  For one thing 
if I have too many Context and create one view per Context tag, then they 
will be difficult to find in the menus on the left...

Ah but you can always set up hotkeys to fire them up, I hear someone cry. 
Yes but there is no very obvious hotkey convention to use. Plus I dont want 
to have to keep rebuilding these things every time I think of a more easy 
to remember convention - or indeed a more fully available convention that 
can be fully used without shuffling around the existing hotkeys And/or 
I may have made fundamental mistakes with the design of my views in the 
first place And/or if I accidentally delete some views } all of 
which do take thought, energy and time!

I dont want to push my luck by any chance of some screenshots to see what 
you mean?
To be honest there are so many options many of which may be inefficient 
that I am floundering somewhat.

J


On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 9:10:57 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote:

 John: I'm having a problem with this thread because it has too many open 
 issues. This takes something away from the usefulness of the forum for 
 other users because the result is that a discussion that could be helpful 
 to someone else (eg how to keep certain contexts out of the to-do list) is 
 hidden in the postscripts of some other discussion (eg how to manage an 
 area of focus). So I'm going to respond here to your area of focus question 
 and start new threads for answers to your postscripts.

 Using nested contexts, as I suggested, is useful if your areas of focus 
 are isomorphic to your contexts, that is, they fall in the same general 
 structure. Your areas of focus are orthogonal to your contexts, that is 
 they go in a different suggestion. In this case I agree with the posts from 
 Richard, Andrei and Pottster that your areas of focus should probably be 
 the basis for your outline structure. So your outline would have top level 
 branches like work, relationships, etc and there might be a next level of 
 branches for each job, each relationship, or whatever. Then, contexts would 
 represent what kind of task, or what you need to do the task, or whatever. 
 You would use context filtering to select tasks relevant to the tools you 
 have and the place you are, and use zoom-in to select the area of focus.

 Does this sound right to you? Note that you can build a view with a 
 particular zoom built into it, and save it in a tab for easy access.
 -Dwight

 On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:45:11 PM UTC-5, John Smith wrote:


 Hello 

 Newbie question:
 Does MLO have an equivalent of GTD Areas of Focus e.g. Work, Body/Mind, 
 Life Learning, Relationships etc ?

 I guess I am looking for a single-click to JUST see stuff that relates to 
 say Work. 
 Presumably this could be done with Context tags in some way... but that 
 would be clunky.
 Ultimately I suppose it's about having a second tier of filtering.

 I see that there was some discussion by in 2005 about this but what is 
 the current position?

 With thanks
  



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[MLO] Re: Newbie Question: Does MLO have 'Areas of Focus'?

2014-12-01 Thread John Smith
OK  thanks

For the record I am using Windows and Android

J


On Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:24:28 PM UTC, Richard C wrote:

 Which version are you using, John (Windows, Android, iOS)?

 I agree with Dwight that one way of achieving this would be to use 
 Contexts as described.   Another option would be to use the hierarchy - 
 create top level items for each Area of Focus and then create Projects and 
 Tasks under each of these as appropriate.

 You can then use the Zoom facility to Zoom into a particular area of focus 
 by selecting the top level Task and selecting Zoom (Ctrl+R).  The Zoom 
 works in both the hierarchical and ToDo views - but you would have to 
 select the Top Level item in a hierarchical view and then switch to a To Do.

 You could also use this approach (or the Context approach) in conjunction 
 with the Workspaces functionality to create separate tabs for each Area of 
 Focus.

  The above applies to the Windows version - I don't currently use MLO on 
 my mobile.

 Hope this helps

 Richard

 On Thursday, 27 November 2014 19:45:11 UTC, John Smith wrote:


 Hello 

 Newbie question:
 Does MLO have an equivalent of GTD Areas of Focus e.g. Work, Body/Mind, 
 Life Learning, Relationships etc ?

 I guess I am looking for a single-click to JUST see stuff that relates to 
 say Work. 
 Presumably this could be done with Context tags in some way... but that 
 would be clunky.
 Ultimately I suppose it's about having a second tier of filtering.

 I see that there was some discussion by in 2005 about this but what is 
 the current position?

 With thanks
  



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[MLO] Re: Newbie Question: Does MLO have 'Areas of Focus'?

2014-11-29 Thread Richard C
Which version are you using, John (Windows, Android, iOS)?

I agree with Dwight that one way of achieving this would be to use Contexts 
as described.   Another option would be to use the hierarchy - create top 
level items for each Area of Focus and then create Projects and Tasks under 
each of these as appropriate.

You can then use the Zoom facility to Zoom into a particular area of focus 
by selecting the top level Task and selecting Zoom (Ctrl+R).  The Zoom 
works in both the hierarchical and ToDo views - but you would have to 
select the Top Level item in a hierarchical view and then switch to a To Do.

You could also use this approach (or the Context approach) in conjunction 
with the Workspaces functionality to create separate tabs for each Area of 
Focus.

 The above applies to the Windows version - I don't currently use MLO on my 
mobile.

Hope this helps

Richard

On Thursday, 27 November 2014 19:45:11 UTC, John Smith wrote:


 Hello 

 Newbie question:
 Does MLO have an equivalent of GTD Areas of Focus e.g. Work, Body/Mind, 
 Life Learning, Relationships etc ?

 I guess I am looking for a single-click to JUST see stuff that relates to 
 say Work. 
 Presumably this could be done with Context tags in some way... but that 
 would be clunky.
 Ultimately I suppose it's about having a second tier of filtering.

 I see that there was some discussion by in 2005 about this but what is the 
 current position?

 With thanks
  


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