Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Thanks all for the advice which encouraged me to try again.

I followed suggestions above, and combined outlines into one, and the sync 
process is working and I am enjoying using the app. However I have not yet 
tested sync much on outlines with nested todo lists and dependent tasks, 
where the checkbox status used not to sync reliably for me.

I emailed the developer to query the ten outline limit in cloud storage 
some weeks ago - I did not get a reply yet. Perhaps he is busy and maybe 
there are issues in the design which I am unaware of which require this 
limitation.

I have found a product - not as good - which saves to dropbox, so when my 
cloud sync subscription runs out year after next I will review things 
again, but for now I stay with MLO and hope for removal of the limit, and a 
common file structure between platforms.

L

On Friday, 28 June 2013 19:18:07 UTC+1, Laurence Glazier wrote:
>
> Thanks Andrei, I have faster equipment than I used to so perhaps sync will 
> work better for me now.
>
> I still would like to be able to use more than ten files though. Maybe I 
> will ask for this directly.
>
> Laurence
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Andrei 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello Laurence,
>> I also had some sync problems with my Huawei U8650 android-phone.
>> The phone is not very performant and it was working very slow (I 
>> installed a lot of application+ my MLO tree had about 2000tasks).
>> I even decided to not use MLO android because of the low speed + from 
>> time to time i could see "Lost and found" folders inside on my MLO profile.
>>
>> 3 weeks ago i bought a new phone.It is not a powerful phone, but MLO runs 
>> quickly on it. The cloud sync runs ok, without problems. 
>>
>> Also, in the past i had many problems with different applications due to 
>> a bad quality SD Card. When i replace it, all problems dissapeared.
>> If you have a possibility, test MLO application and sync on another phone.
>>
>> Good luck !
>>
>> понедельник, 17 июня 2013 г., 2:01:01 UTC+3 пользователь Laurence Glazier 
>> написал:
>>
>>> Technically, all the outlines one ever uses can be contained within one. 
>>> This is the philosophy of the workflowy.com web service, and the 
>>> LifeBalance application from PalmPilot days also enforced this. This means, 
>>> in theory, the limit to ten files is not really a limit.
>>>
>>> However, some (including me) like the freedom to set up individual, 
>>> discrete outline files containing as much or as little as we like.
>>>
>>> In the case of MLO, I have experienced synchronization error issues 
>>> which were not fixed, and these errors occur more often in larger and more 
>>> complex outlines, so until I have more confidence in MLO synchronization 
>>> reliability, I like to reduce my risk by using more, but smaller, outlines.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:51:16 PM UTC+1, DJM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there any reason why multiple folders within one file is an 
>>>> insufficient approach?
>>>>
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>> --
>>>> *From: * Laurence Glazier  
>>>> *Sender: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> *Date: *Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> *To: *
>>>> *ReplyTo: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> *Cc: *Support, MLO; Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)<
>>>> for...@mylifeorganized.**net>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Dwight for checking this out.
>>>>
>>>> As I seem to be the only person to have flagged this limit, it seems to 
>>>> be unnecessary. I would prefer it to be based on amount of storage in 
>>>> bytes, rather than the number of files - the standard approach of Google, 
>>>> Microsoft, Evernote and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Any chance of you changing this Andrey? I would like MLO to be my 
>>>> default tool for all lists - including lots of small ones. I have had to 
>>>> consider an alternative setup for small lists comprising Simplenotes, 
>>>> Resophnotes, Notational Velocity and Dropbox, and my preference is to keep 
>>>> everything in the most comprehensive application, MLO. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:51:07 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a 
>>>>> single subscription, I receive a message "A li

Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Thanks Andrei, I have faster equipment than I used to so perhaps sync will
work better for me now.

I still would like to be able to use more than ten files though. Maybe I
will ask for this directly.

Laurence


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Andrei  wrote:

> Hello Laurence,
> I also had some sync problems with my Huawei U8650 android-phone.
> The phone is not very performant and it was working very slow (I installed
> a lot of application+ my MLO tree had about 2000tasks).
> I even decided to not use MLO android because of the low speed + from time
> to time i could see "Lost and found" folders inside on my MLO profile.
>
> 3 weeks ago i bought a new phone.It is not a powerful phone, but MLO runs
> quickly on it. The cloud sync runs ok, without problems.
>
> Also, in the past i had many problems with different applications due to a
> bad quality SD Card. When i replace it, all problems dissapeared.
> If you have a possibility, test MLO application and sync on another phone.
>
> Good luck !
>
> понедельник, 17 июня 2013 г., 2:01:01 UTC+3 пользователь Laurence Glazier
> написал:
>
>> Technically, all the outlines one ever uses can be contained within one.
>> This is the philosophy of the workflowy.com web service, and the
>> LifeBalance application from PalmPilot days also enforced this. This means,
>> in theory, the limit to ten files is not really a limit.
>>
>> However, some (including me) like the freedom to set up individual,
>> discrete outline files containing as much or as little as we like.
>>
>> In the case of MLO, I have experienced synchronization error issues which
>> were not fixed, and these errors occur more often in larger and more
>> complex outlines, so until I have more confidence in MLO synchronization
>> reliability, I like to reduce my risk by using more, but smaller, outlines.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:51:16 PM UTC+1, DJM wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any reason why multiple folders within one file is an
>>> insufficient approach?
>>>
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>> --
>>> *From: * Laurence Glazier 
>>> *Sender: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Date: *Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
>>> *To: *
>>> *ReplyTo: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Cc: *Support, MLO; Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)<
>>> for...@mylifeorganized.**net>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files
>>>
>>> Thanks Dwight for checking this out.
>>>
>>> As I seem to be the only person to have flagged this limit, it seems to
>>> be unnecessary. I would prefer it to be based on amount of storage in
>>> bytes, rather than the number of files - the standard approach of Google,
>>> Microsoft, Evernote and so on.
>>>
>>> Any chance of you changing this Andrey? I would like MLO to be my
>>> default tool for all lists - including lots of small ones. I have had to
>>> consider an alternative setup for small lists comprising Simplenotes,
>>> Resophnotes, Notational Velocity and Dropbox, and my preference is to keep
>>> everything in the most comprehensive application, MLO.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:51:07 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a single
>>>> subscription, I receive a message "A limit of files to be owned by this
>>>> user has been reached" and I also confirmed that in the process of signing
>>>> up with the cloud service and buying a subscription there is no warning or
>>>> acknowledgement that there is a limit of ten files. I believe that there
>>>> must be a limit and I think that 10 is as reasonable as any other limit,
>>>> but I do agree with Laurence that this limit should be acknowledged in the
>>>> purchase process before the transaction is final.
>>>>
>>>> -Dwight
>>>>
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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Andrei]

Hello Laurence,
I also had some sync problems with my Huawei U8650 android-phone.
The phone is not very performant and it was working very slow (I installed 
a lot of application+ my MLO tree had about 2000tasks).
I even decided to not use MLO android because of the low speed + from time 
to time i could see "Lost and found" folders inside on my MLO profile.

3 weeks ago i bought a new phone.It is not a powerful phone, but MLO runs 
quickly on it. The cloud sync runs ok, without problems. 

Also, in the past i had many problems with different applications due to a 
bad quality SD Card. When i replace it, all problems dissapeared.
If you have a possibility, test MLO application and sync on another phone.

Good luck !

понедельник, 17 июня 2013 г., 2:01:01 UTC+3 пользователь Laurence Glazier 
написал:
>
> Technically, all the outlines one ever uses can be contained within one. 
> This is the philosophy of the workflowy.com web service, and the 
> LifeBalance application from PalmPilot days also enforced this. This means, 
> in theory, the limit to ten files is not really a limit.
>
> However, some (including me) like the freedom to set up individual, 
> discrete outline files containing as much or as little as we like.
>
> In the case of MLO, I have experienced synchronization error issues which 
> were not fixed, and these errors occur more often in larger and more 
> complex outlines, so until I have more confidence in MLO synchronization 
> reliability, I like to reduce my risk by using more, but smaller, outlines.
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:51:16 PM UTC+1, DJM wrote:
>>
>> Is there any reason why multiple folders within one file is an 
>> insufficient approach?
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> --
>> *From: * Laurence Glazier  
>> *Sender: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com 
>> *Date: *Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com 
>> *Cc: *Support, MLO; Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)<
>> for...@mylifeorganized.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files
>>
>> Thanks Dwight for checking this out.
>>
>> As I seem to be the only person to have flagged this limit, it seems to 
>> be unnecessary. I would prefer it to be based on amount of storage in 
>> bytes, rather than the number of files - the standard approach of Google, 
>> Microsoft, Evernote and so on.
>>
>> Any chance of you changing this Andrey? I would like MLO to be my default 
>> tool for all lists - including lots of small ones. I have had to consider 
>> an alternative setup for small lists comprising Simplenotes, Resophnotes, 
>> Notational Velocity and Dropbox, and my preference is to keep everything in 
>> the most comprehensive application, MLO. 
>>
>> On Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:51:07 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>> I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a single 
>>> subscription, I receive a message "A limit of files to be owned by this 
>>> user has been reached" and I also confirmed that in the process of signing 
>>> up with the cloud service and buying a subscription there is no warning or 
>>> acknowledgement that there is a limit of ten files. I believe that there 
>>> must be a limit and I think that 10 is as reasonable as any other limit, 
>>> but I do agree with Laurence that this limit should be acknowledged in the 
>>> purchase process before the transaction is final.
>>>
>>> -Dwight
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Technically, all the outlines one ever uses can be contained within one. 
This is the philosophy of the workflowy.com web service, and the 
LifeBalance application from PalmPilot days also enforced this. This means, 
in theory, the limit to ten files is not really a limit.

However, some (including me) like the freedom to set up individual, 
discrete outline files containing as much or as little as we like.

In the case of MLO, I have experienced synchronization error issues which 
were not fixed, and these errors occur more often in larger and more 
complex outlines, so until I have more confidence in MLO synchronization 
reliability, I like to reduce my risk by using more, but smaller, outlines.

On Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:51:16 PM UTC+1, DJM wrote:
>
> Is there any reason why multiple folders within one file is an 
> insufficient approach?
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> --
> *From: * Laurence Glazier > 
> *Sender: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com  
> *Date: *Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
> *To: *>
> *ReplyTo: * mylifeo...@googlegroups.com  
> *Cc: *Support, MLO>; Andrey 
> Tkachuk (MLO)>
> *Subject: *Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files
>
> Thanks Dwight for checking this out.
>
> As I seem to be the only person to have flagged this limit, it seems to be 
> unnecessary. I would prefer it to be based on amount of storage in bytes, 
> rather than the number of files - the standard approach of Google, 
> Microsoft, Evernote and so on.
>
> Any chance of you changing this Andrey? I would like MLO to be my default 
> tool for all lists - including lots of small ones. I have had to consider 
> an alternative setup for small lists comprising Simplenotes, Resophnotes, 
> Notational Velocity and Dropbox, and my preference is to keep everything in 
> the most comprehensive application, MLO. 
>
> On Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:51:07 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>
>> I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a single 
>> subscription, I receive a message “A limit of files to be owned by this 
>> user has been reached” and I also confirmed that in the process of signing 
>> up with the cloud service and buying a subscription there is no warning or 
>> acknowledgement that there is a limit of ten files. I believe that there 
>> must be a limit and I think that 10 is as reasonable as any other limit, 
>> but I do agree with Laurence that this limit should be acknowledged in the 
>> purchase process before the transaction is final.
>>
>> -Dwight
>>
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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[david . mangen]

Is there any reason why multiple folders within one file is an insufficient 
approach?


Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Laurence Glazier 
Sender: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:23:58 
To: 
Reply-To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Cc: Support, MLO; Andrey Tkachuk 
(MLO)
Subject: Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

Thanks Dwight for checking this out.

As I seem to be the only person to have flagged this limit, it seems to be 
unnecessary. I would prefer it to be based on amount of storage in bytes, 
rather than the number of files - the standard approach of Google, 
Microsoft, Evernote and so on.

Any chance of you changing this Andrey? I would like MLO to be my default 
tool for all lists - including lots of small ones. I have had to consider 
an alternative setup for small lists comprising Simplenotes, Resophnotes, 
Notational Velocity and Dropbox, and my preference is to keep everything in 
the most comprehensive application, MLO. 

On Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:51:07 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a single 
> subscription, I receive a message “A limit of files to be owned by this 
> user has been reached” and I also confirmed that in the process of signing 
> up with the cloud service and buying a subscription there is no warning or 
> acknowledgement that there is a limit of ten files. I believe that there 
> must be a limit and I think that 10 is as reasonable as any other limit, 
> but I do agree with Laurence that this limit should be acknowledged in the 
> purchase process before the transaction is final.
>
> -Dwight
>

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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Thanks Dwight for checking this out.

As I seem to be the only person to have flagged this limit, it seems to be 
unnecessary. I would prefer it to be based on amount of storage in bytes, 
rather than the number of files - the standard approach of Google, 
Microsoft, Evernote and so on.

Any chance of you changing this Andrey? I would like MLO to be my default 
tool for all lists - including lots of small ones. I have had to consider 
an alternative setup for small lists comprising Simplenotes, Resophnotes, 
Notational Velocity and Dropbox, and my preference is to keep everything in 
the most comprehensive application, MLO. 

On Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:51:07 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a single 
> subscription, I receive a message “A limit of files to be owned by this 
> user has been reached” and I also confirmed that in the process of signing 
> up with the cloud service and buying a subscription there is no warning or 
> acknowledgement that there is a limit of ten files. I believe that there 
> must be a limit and I think that 10 is as reasonable as any other limit, 
> but I do agree with Laurence that this limit should be acknowledged in the 
> purchase process before the transaction is final.
>
> -Dwight
>

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RE: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[mlo]

I confirmed that when I attempt to create an cloud file within a single
subscription, I receive a message "A limit of files to be owned by this user
has been reached" and I also confirmed that in the process of signing up
with the cloud service and buying a subscription there is no warning or
acknowledgement that there is a limit of ten files. I believe that there
must be a limit and I think that 10 is as reasonable as any other limit, but
I do agree with Laurence that this limit should be acknowledged in the
purchase process before the transaction is final.

-Dwight

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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Actually it turned out that my models were too complex for MLO. 
Synchronization errors occurred regularly and the problem I was having was 
not fixed, over some years. In those days I was on Windows PC, so I 
switched to ListPro whose architecture is based on a portable file 
structure, which enabled me to run off a single file (I attached the Pocket 
PC as a remote disk to my PC, and opened the file directly in the Windows 
application).

When I moved to Android, I had to say goodbye to ListPro, for which Illium 
did not make an Android version, and so moved back to MLO. But because of 
the synchronisation issues, I spread and minimise my risk by having several 
smaller models (which seem less prone to synchronise incorrectly). Because 
of having more models in use, I have run up against this limit of ten files 
which can be held in the cloud per account. If I combine my models into 
fewer, nested outlines, I fear they are more likely to synchronise wrongly. 
However I will try that, but how easily one can spend more time tweaking 
the system than doing the tasks it stores. And it will increase 
synchronisation time,

And I do think it is right that the limit of ten files should be made clear 
at the point of purchase - I must have missed it somewhere, and would have 
thought twice, though I think I would still have bought the storage.

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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Maximilian Hantsch-Köller]

Regarding your point 3, it is not necessary to limit yourself to only using 
MLO at one computer at a time, and always closing it. You need, however, a 
slightly different setup.

For some years I had been using a system where I set up MLO on both my home 
and two office PCs, synching all of them through Dropbox. Each MLO instance 
had its own local MLO file, and I synched that local MLO file to the 
(local) Dropbox file using MLO's file sync mechanism. The important step 
here is that I did NOT open the Dropbox file directly in MLO, but instead 
each MLO was running from it's own local file which got locally synced to 
the Dropbox file.

Using this setup, the Dropbox file only gets changed whenever MLO syncs to 
it. That copy is then put onto Dropbox and copied to all other local copies 
of the Dropbox. Whenever you move to another PC, then just sync that local 
file to the Dropbox file again (Hit F9, or wait for automatic sync in MLO 
4) and your local copy which you are working on is up to date. Because you 
never save the central Dropbox file directly, but only sync to it, this 
relieves you from the limit of only running 1 copy of MLO at a time.

So, should you forget to sync, or work on computers at different times 
concurrently, the modifications to the MLO file will be synched (using 
MLO's synchronisation mechanism) and not just copied (Dropbox just copies 
files around). The only thing I had to remember with MLO 3 was to hit F9 
ever so often to start the sync. I have not used the method with MLO 4, but 
I suppose the automatic time-based sync would take care of it automatically 
even.

Disadvantage of this setup was that I could not sync mobile MLO. So that is 
why about 2 years ago I switched to using MLO Cloud, it works both with 
Blackberry and Android mobile versions. And I have been happy ever since; I 
don't mind the few dollars it costs per month.

BR
Max

Am Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2013 03:15:47 UTC+2 schrieb Dwight Arthur:
>
> My current understanding might be different from the last time we 
> discussed this. I believe that dropbox is a good idea if:
> 1. Dropbox is supported on every platform where you run MLO 
> 2. MLO uses a single interchangeable file format across every platform 
> where you run MLO. 
> 3. You only use MLO on one device at a time, and you close it before going 
> to a different device. 
> 4. You never use MLO disconnected, i. e. without Internet access. 
>
> Apparently there are many people who use MLO on multiple Windows machines 
> (including various tools for simulated Windows on Apple) where this might 
> be not only feasible but also valuable, such as a person who has MLO 
> installed on Windows machines at home and at work. 
>
> If mobile platforms were to use the same file format it would be possible 
> to extend these benefits there as well. However, in my opinion the would be 
> a high risk of users violating the third precondition (one device at a 
> time) and getting into trouble unless some sort of interlock prevented all 
> new logins while any login remains open. 
> -Dwight 
>
> Mark Levison > wrote:
>>
>> We hear an appeal for dropbox to do something miraculous every 3-4 mths. 
>> I suggest looking in the archives to understand the limitations.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Lisa Stroyan 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like from the complexity of what you're doing, dropbox would not 
>>> give you the granularity you need anyway. 
>>>
>>> Lisa Stroyan, lstr...@gmail.com 
>>> On Jun 4, 2013 11:20 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Dwight

 I suppose that would work but could be expensive if I have numerous 
 files. Somehow I missed this restriction when upgrading my MLO and 
 renewing 
 my subscription to MLO Cloud Sync.

 To avoid these issues I have now moved the lists in question to a 
 different cloud-based task management system, leaving a few more complex 
 models in the MLO cloud storage space for the time being (I have almost 
 two 
 years left of subscription).

 I always wish, when sync issues arise, that there was a single file 
 format so I could store my data in Dropbox!

 Laurence

 On Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:37:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Hi, Laurence. 
> Perhaps you will find a better answer than this, but I imagine that 
> you could create a second user ID in the cloud. You could ask the support 
> people if there's any quantity discount. 
> -Dwight 
>
> Laurence Glazier  wrote:
>>
>> I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud synching, 
>> being apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to increase or 
>> remove this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files into one 
>> larger outline to work around it.
>>
>> On this occasion I was able to delete a file without problem to make 
>> room, but it limits my possible use o

Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Thanks all for your thoughts.

Laurence


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Dwight  wrote:

> My current understanding might be different from the last time we
> discussed this. I believe that dropbox is a good idea if:
> 1. Dropbox is supported on every platform where you run MLO
> 2. MLO uses a single interchangeable file format across every platform
> where you run MLO.
> 3. You only use MLO on one device at a time, and you close it before going
> to a different device.
> 4. You never use MLO disconnected, i. e. without Internet access.
>
> Apparently there are many people who use MLO on multiple Windows machines
> (including various tools for simulated Windows on Apple) where this might
> be not only feasible but also valuable, such as a person who has MLO
> installed on Windows machines at home and at work.
>
> If mobile platforms were to use the same file format it would be possible
> to extend these benefits there as well. However, in my opinion the would be
> a high risk of users violating the third precondition (one device at a
> time) and getting into trouble unless some sort of interlock prevented all
> new logins while any login remains open.
>  -Dwight
>
> Mark Levison  wrote:
>>
>> We hear an appeal for dropbox to do something miraculous every 3-4 mths.
>> I suggest looking in the archives to understand the limitations.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Lisa Stroyan  wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like from the complexity of what you're doing, dropbox would not
>>> give you the granularity you need anyway.
>>>
>>> Lisa Stroyan, lstro...@gmail.com
>>> On Jun 4, 2013 11:20 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Dwight

 I suppose that would work but could be expensive if I have numerous
 files. Somehow I missed this restriction when upgrading my MLO and renewing
 my subscription to MLO Cloud Sync.

 To avoid these issues I have now moved the lists in question to a
 different cloud-based task management system, leaving a few more complex
 models in the MLO cloud storage space for the time being (I have almost two
 years left of subscription).

 I always wish, when sync issues arise, that there was a single file
 format so I could store my data in Dropbox!

 Laurence

 On Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:37:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Hi, Laurence.
> Perhaps you will find a better answer than this, but I imagine that
> you could create a second user ID in the cloud. You could ask the support
> people if there's any quantity discount.
> -Dwight
>
> Laurence Glazier  wrote:
>>
>> I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud synching,
>> being apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to increase or
>> remove this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files into one
>> larger outline to work around it.
>>
>> On this occasion I was able to delete a file without problem to make
>> room, but it limits my possible use of the product.
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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Dwight]

My current understanding might be different from the last time we discussed 
this. I believe that dropbox is a good idea if:
1. Dropbox is supported on every platform where you run MLO 
2. MLO uses a single interchangeable file format across every platform where 
you run MLO. 
3. You only use MLO on one device at a time, and you close it before going to a 
different device. 
4. You never use MLO disconnected, i. e. without Internet access. 

Apparently there are many people who use MLO on multiple Windows machines 
(including various tools for simulated Windows on Apple) where this might be 
not only feasible but also valuable, such as a person who has MLO installed on 
Windows machines at home and at work. 

If mobile platforms were to use the same file format it would be possible to 
extend these benefits there as well.  However,  in my opinion the would be a 
high risk of users violating the third precondition (one device at a time) and 
getting into trouble unless some sort of interlock prevented all new logins 
while any login remains open. 
-Dwight 

Mark Levison  wrote:

»We hear an appeal for dropbox to do something miraculous every 3-4
»mths. I
»suggest looking in the archives to understand the limitations.
»
»Cheers
»Mark
»
»
»On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Lisa Stroyan 
»wrote:
»
»> Sounds like from the complexity of what you're doing, dropbox would
»not
»> give you the granularity you need anyway.
»>
»> Lisa Stroyan, lstro...@gmail.com
»> On Jun 4, 2013 11:20 AM, "Laurence Glazier"
»
»> wrote:
»>
»>> Thanks Dwight
»>>
»>> I suppose that would work but could be expensive if I have numerous
»>> files. Somehow I missed this restriction when upgrading my MLO and
»renewing
»>> my subscription to MLO Cloud Sync.
»>>
»>> To avoid these issues I have now moved the lists in question to a
»>> different cloud-based task management system, leaving a few more
»complex
»>> models in the MLO cloud storage space for the time being (I have
»almost two
»>> years left of subscription).
»>>
»>> I always wish, when sync issues arise, that there was a single file
»>> format so I could store my data in Dropbox!
»>>
»>> Laurence
»>>
»>> On Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:37:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
»>>>
»>>> Hi, Laurence.
»>>> Perhaps you will find a better answer than this, but I imagine that
»you
»>>> could create a second user ID in the cloud. You could ask the
»support
»>>> people if there's any quantity discount.
»>>> -Dwight
»>>>
»>>> Laurence Glazier  wrote:
»
» I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud
»synching,
» being apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to
»increase or
» remove this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files
»into one
» larger outline to work around it.
»
» On this occasion I was able to delete a file without problem to
»make
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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Mark Levison]

We hear an appeal for dropbox to do something miraculous every 3-4 mths. I
suggest looking in the archives to understand the limitations.

Cheers
Mark


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Lisa Stroyan  wrote:

> Sounds like from the complexity of what you're doing, dropbox would not
> give you the granularity you need anyway.
>
> Lisa Stroyan, lstro...@gmail.com
> On Jun 4, 2013 11:20 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dwight
>>
>> I suppose that would work but could be expensive if I have numerous
>> files. Somehow I missed this restriction when upgrading my MLO and renewing
>> my subscription to MLO Cloud Sync.
>>
>> To avoid these issues I have now moved the lists in question to a
>> different cloud-based task management system, leaving a few more complex
>> models in the MLO cloud storage space for the time being (I have almost two
>> years left of subscription).
>>
>> I always wish, when sync issues arise, that there was a single file
>> format so I could store my data in Dropbox!
>>
>> Laurence
>>
>> On Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:37:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Laurence.
>>> Perhaps you will find a better answer than this, but I imagine that you
>>> could create a second user ID in the cloud. You could ask the support
>>> people if there's any quantity discount.
>>> -Dwight
>>>
>>> Laurence Glazier  wrote:

 I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud synching,
 being apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to increase or
 remove this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files into one
 larger outline to work around it.

 On this occasion I was able to delete a file without problem to make
 room, but it limits my possible use of the product.

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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Lisa Stroyan]

Sounds like from the complexity of what you're doing, dropbox would not
give you the granularity you need anyway.

Lisa Stroyan, lstro...@gmail.com
On Jun 4, 2013 11:20 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
wrote:

> Thanks Dwight
>
> I suppose that would work but could be expensive if I have numerous files.
> Somehow I missed this restriction when upgrading my MLO and renewing my
> subscription to MLO Cloud Sync.
>
> To avoid these issues I have now moved the lists in question to a
> different cloud-based task management system, leaving a few more complex
> models in the MLO cloud storage space for the time being (I have almost two
> years left of subscription).
>
> I always wish, when sync issues arise, that there was a single file format
> so I could store my data in Dropbox!
>
> Laurence
>
> On Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:37:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Laurence.
>> Perhaps you will find a better answer than this, but I imagine that you
>> could create a second user ID in the cloud. You could ask the support
>> people if there's any quantity discount.
>> -Dwight
>>
>> Laurence Glazier  wrote:
>>>
>>> I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud synching,
>>> being apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to increase or
>>> remove this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files into one
>>> larger outline to work around it.
>>>
>>> On this occasion I was able to delete a file without problem to make
>>> room, but it limits my possible use of the product.
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Laurence Glazier]

Thanks Dwight

I suppose that would work but could be expensive if I have numerous files. 
Somehow I missed this restriction when upgrading my MLO and renewing my 
subscription to MLO Cloud Sync.

To avoid these issues I have now moved the lists in question to a different 
cloud-based task management system, leaving a few more complex models in 
the MLO cloud storage space for the time being (I have almost two years 
left of subscription).

I always wish, when sync issues arise, that there was a single file format 
so I could store my data in Dropbox!

Laurence

On Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:37:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Hi, Laurence. 
> Perhaps you will find a better answer than this, but I imagine that you 
> could create a second user ID in the cloud. You could ask the support 
> people if there's any quantity discount. 
> -Dwight 
>
> Laurence Glazier > wrote:
>>
>> I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud synching, 
>> being apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to increase or 
>> remove this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files into one 
>> larger outline to work around it.
>>
>> On this occasion I was able to delete a file without problem to make 
>> room, but it limits my possible use of the product.
>>
>>

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Re: [MLO] Cloud sync limited to maximum of ten files

[Dwight]

Hi,  Laurence. 
Perhaps you will find a better answer than this,  but I imagine that you could 
create a second user ID in the cloud.  You could ask the support people if 
there's any quantity discount. 
-Dwight 

Laurence Glazier  wrote:

»I found today that I could not create a new file for cloud synching,
»being 
»apparently limited to ten files. Is there some way to increase or
»remove 
»this limit? It is inconvenient to have to combine files into one larger
»
»outline to work around it.
»
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»room, 
»but it limits my possible use of the product.
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