Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Tim Johnson
Are there any utilities available that will enable the quick design
and implementation of forms for editing and adding records?

I.E. something like M$-Access or OpenOffice form designer/wizards.
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Dykman
Mysql is a backend service and has no such application-level tools.

You can, however, use MS-Access (or any other such tool) and use MySL
as a backend via an ODBC driver.

 - micael dykman


On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:
 Are there any utilities available that will enable the quick design
 and implementation of forms for editing and adding records?

 I.E. something like M$-Access or OpenOffice form designer/wizards.
 thanks
 --
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Claudio Nanni
Tim,

are you designing a client/server application or a web based one?

Claudio


2012/1/18 Michael Dykman mdyk...@gmail.com

 Mysql is a backend service and has no such application-level tools.

 You can, however, use MS-Access (or any other such tool) and use MySL
 as a backend via an ODBC driver.

  - micael dykman


 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:
  Are there any utilities available that will enable the quick design
  and implementation of forms for editing and adding records?
 
  I.E. something like M$-Access or OpenOffice form designer/wizards.
  thanks
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  tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com
  http://www.akwebsoft.com
 
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Tim Johnson
* Claudio Nanni claudio.na...@gmail.com [120118 14:15]:
 Tim,
 
 are you designing a client/server application or a web based one?
 Hi Claudio :

I am asking a general question. I have developed web-based apps
with mysql editing features for over 10 years now, but I am a
little lazy. Or to be more self-kind, I'm looking for tools that
can speed things up a bit. 

For instance, I think it would be great if there were a front end
to MySQL that would allow me to design forms like I used to for
MS-Access and then save them as html. I could then embed them in
my view templates.
 
I looked for such a feature in MySQLWorkBench, but like that
other responder said, not a 'front end'.

Thanks for the inquiry.
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Tim Johnson
* Michael Dykman mdyk...@gmail.com [120118 13:00]:
 Mysql is a backend service and has no such application-level tools.
 
 You can, however, use MS-Access (or any other such tool) and use MySL
 as a backend via an ODBC driver.
  Thanks Michael. I have use MS-Access in the past, but we no longer
  use Windows here. I've tried with Open Office, but it is not
  nearly as kind to work with as Access. Do you have any other
  recommendations?
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Dykman
Tim,

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool console user myself.  I find the GUI tools make
it quicker getting a project started, slower getting a project done
so, no, I can't recommend a thing.

 - michael


On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:
 * Michael Dykman mdyk...@gmail.com [120118 13:00]:
 Mysql is a backend service and has no such application-level tools.

 You can, however, use MS-Access (or any other such tool) and use MySL
 as a backend via an ODBC driver.
  Thanks Michael. I have use MS-Access in the past, but we no longer
  use Windows here. I've tried with Open Office, but it is not
  nearly as kind to work with as Access. Do you have any other
  recommendations?
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Claudio Nanni
Hi Tim,

Excuse me but still I don't understand exactly what is the product you want
to build.
One thing is a tool (IDE) to work and one thing is the product you build.

Some questions to understand:
You ask for a tool name or a general question?
What are exactly the mysql editing features ?
What are your my view templates ?
And again, are you building a client-server architecture application or a
web based?
Any interface as you surely know needs a logic and an engine that runs that
logic.
That logic could reside on a client application, on a browser(javascript et
al), server(anything).
I ask all this because your question is very vague and so the answer could
be anything,
Visual Basic, Jboss, Zend Studio, Adobe Flex just as an idea.

Cheers

Claudio

2012/1/19 Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com

 * Claudio Nanni claudio.na...@gmail.com [120118 14:15]:
  Tim,
 
  are you designing a client/server application or a web based one?
  Hi Claudio :

I am asking a general question. I have developed web-based apps
with mysql editing features for over 10 years now, but I am a
little lazy. Or to be more self-kind, I'm looking for tools that
can speed things up a bit.

For instance, I think it would be great if there were a front end
to MySQL that would allow me to design forms like I used to for
MS-Access and then save them as html. I could then embed them in
my view templates.

I looked for such a feature in MySQLWorkBench, but like that
other responder said, not a 'front end'.

Thanks for the inquiry.
 --
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 http://www.akwebsoft.com

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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Tim Johnson
* Claudio Nanni claudio.na...@gmail.com [120118 15:49]:
 Hi Tim,
  Hi Again Claudio: 
 Excuse me but still I don't understand exactly what is the product you want
 to build.
  I'm sorry, I'm not expressing myself well, I know it!
  I build all sorts of web-based products...
 One thing is a tool (IDE) to work and one thing is the product you build.
 
 Some questions to understand:
 You ask for a tool name or a general question?
  Basically, I was inquiring as to whether there
  was a way to 
  1)Connect to a MySQL database
then:
  2)A wizard or a design tool to build an input form for a particular table.
Just as MS-Access or OpenOffice Base can do. (See my answer to
Michael)
then:
  3)Save form as an HTML form  
  Experimenting with OpenOffice has been unsatisfactory.
  As for MS-Access, I no longer use Windows (linux and Mac), nor do
  I currently have a market for work on Windows. 

 What are exactly the mysql editing features ?
  That is a general description. Like many web developers I
  use/develop HTML forms to edit MySQL databases.

 What are your my view templates ?
  ** Source documents for my MVC view templates **
  I use my own framework. It is derived by myself and used only for
  my clients or for my own apps.

 And again, are you building a client-server architecture
 application or a web based?

  Sorry. Web based.
 
  I appreciate your help, but I believe that I can easily develop the tool
  that I need.

  It would connect to MySQL with a specific table - column names
  optional - as a parameter and produce an input form - I could do
  in good time, but since I am self-employed, time is money for me,
  thus I looked for a shortcut and it appears none is available that
  would suit me:

  Since a I use a special markup for Javascript validation, I
  would have to add that by hand. My tool, since it would
  understand my framework could add most of the markup. 

  thanks again
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Re: Editing/form interface

2012-01-18 Thread Tim Johnson
* Michael Dykman mdyk...@gmail.com [120118 16:04]:
 Tim,
 
 I'm a dyed-in-the-wool console user myself.  
  :) As am I. Great minds run in the same gutter!

 I find the GUI tools make
 it quicker getting a project started, slower getting a project done
 so, no, I can't recommend a thing.
  I find that to be generally true. See my reply to Claudio. What I
  described at the end of my response would run from the command
  line and take a text file as input
  
  And as I can recall, producing HTML from Access resulted in some
  very messy html code. Easier for me to do it myself.

  cheers
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