Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Bolser

Hi, 

I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find any.

I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and development
project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be somewhat poorly
maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and being
loosely distributed throughout the web.

The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...

http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841

I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF community,
allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed under one roof. A
first step should be to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without
such a central list the UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who
better than MySQL to organize the MySQL UDF community?

A simple not officially supported statement is all that is needed. Good
UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF 'bundle' would be a
great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
community could vote on 'wanted' functions.

You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is towards my
own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.

Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that their is no
udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's waiting to happen,
given the right conditions.

All the best,
Dan.



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Re: Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Mark Papadakis
That is a really good idea - though I am not sure there is much of
those out there to justify the cause, nor many developers actually
using UDFs.

Still, having them all in one place could be nothing but a good thing.

MarkP

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:39:11 +0100 (BST), Dan Bolser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find any.
 
 I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and development
 project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be somewhat poorly
 maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and being
 loosely distributed throughout the web.
 
 The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...
 
 http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
 http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
 http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841
 
 I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF community,
 allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed under one roof. A
 first step should be to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without
 such a central list the UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who
 better than MySQL to organize the MySQL UDF community?
 
 A simple not officially supported statement is all that is needed. Good
 UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF 'bundle' would be a
 great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
 community could vote on 'wanted' functions.
 
 You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is towards my
 own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.
 
 Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that their is no
 udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's waiting to happen,
 given the right conditions.
 
 All the best,
 Dan.
 
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Re: Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Bolser
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mark Papadakis wrote:

That is a really good idea - though I am not sure there is much of
those out there to justify the cause, nor many developers actually
using UDFs.

Cheers :)

I think with the right infra more people would start using and developing
UDF's, especially if the work was a part of 'MySQL' proper and not just
different groups of individuals. I know it wouldn't make any *real*
difference, but it would make a psychological difference. Also a central
project would be a way to boost visibility for different UDF projects, for
example good (ongoing) work could be showcased in the MySQL news letter.


Still, having them all in one place could be nothing but a good thing.

Yeah, I totally agree :) Especially if resources like the MySQL bugtracker
and mailing lists could be shared. 

Is this the right forum for requesting such things?

All the best,
Dan. 



MarkP

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:39:11 +0100 (BST), Dan Bolser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find any.
 
 I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and development
 project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be somewhat poorly
 maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and being
 loosely distributed throughout the web.
 
 The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...
 
 http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
 http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
 http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841
 
 I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF community,
 allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed under one roof. A
 first step should be to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without
 such a central list the UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who
 better than MySQL to organize the MySQL UDF community?
 
 A simple not officially supported statement is all that is needed. Good
 UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF 'bundle' would be a
 great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
 community could vote on 'wanted' functions.
 
 You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is towards my
 own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.
 
 Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that their is no
 udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's waiting to happen,
 given the right conditions.
 
 All the best,
 Dan.
 
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RE: Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Tom Crimmins

I also think this would be a good idea. I have written some UDF's 
for specific internal use and often wondered if they would be useful 
to others. It would be nice if there was a centralized place to search 
for UDFs, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel everytime you need 
a function. I think that the community list may be the appropriate list 
for disscussion on how to get this going. I believe it is run by Arjen 
Lentz. I have CC'd him on this message. Maybe he can give some input.

Regards,

-- 
Tom Crimmins
Interface Specialist
Pottawattamie County, Iowa 

On Wednesday, March 30, 2005 09:12, Dan Bolser wrote:

 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mark Papadakis wrote:
 
 That is a really good idea - though I am not sure there is much of
 those out there to justify the cause, nor many developers actually
 using UDFs.
 
 Cheers :)
 
 I think with the right infra more people would start using and
 developing UDF's, especially if the work was a part of 'MySQL' proper
 and not just different groups of individuals. I know it wouldn't make
 any *real* difference, but it would make a psychological difference.
 Also a central project would be a way to boost visibility for
 different UDF projects, for example good (ongoing) work could be
 showcased in the MySQL news letter. 
 
 
 Still, having them all in one place could be nothing but a good
 thing. 
 
 Yeah, I totally agree :) Especially if resources like the MySQL
 bugtracker and mailing lists could be shared.
 
 Is this the right forum for requesting such things?
 
 All the best,
 Dan.
 
 
 
 MarkP
 
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:39:11 +0100 (BST), Dan Bolser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find
 any. 
 
 I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and
 development project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be
 somewhat poorly 
 maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and
 being loosely distributed throughout the web.
 
 The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...
 
 http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
 http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
 http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841
 
 I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF
 community, allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed
 under one roof. A first step should be to create a
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without such a central list the
 UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who better than MySQL
 to organize the MySQL UDF community? 
 
 A simple not officially supported statement is all that is
 needed. Good UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF
 'bundle' would be a 
 great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
 community could vote on 'wanted' functions.
 
 You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is
 towards my 
 own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.
 
 Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that
 their is no udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's
 waiting to happen, given the right conditions. 
 
 All the best,
 Dan.

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