Database fundamentals: wanna learn.

2009-12-28 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Hey, all.  I've been using databases clear back to xBase days; that being
said, I've never had a solid foundation for relational databases.  While I
can muddle by in SQL, I really don't have a good understanding of exactly
how keys are set up, the underpinnings of indexing, and, oh, lots of
ground-level stuff.  Call me a user, and you'd be right -- an
administrator of databases?  Not so much.

So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
behind the scenes?

Thanks!

-Ken


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Re: Database fundamentals: wanna learn.

2009-12-28 Thread Claudio Nanni
Hi Ken,
thanks for sharing!

If you want to start from scratch, I would go for a book like this:
http://www.amazon.com/SQL-Complete-Reference-James-Groff/dp/0071592555/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
I did not 'read' it thru, but this is the one I would buy.

If you want to embrace MySQL, in my opinion, the best book you can get is
MySQL 4th edition by Paul DuBois.
It's complete, even more, very readable, and it can be with you for a long
time.

But if you need to grasp better the basic concepts go for a generik SQL
book(like the top one), then go with MySQL specific if you want, or others.

Cheers

Claudio




2009/12/28 Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org

 Hey, all.  I've been using databases clear back to xBase days; that being
 said, I've never had a solid foundation for relational databases.  While I
 can muddle by in SQL, I really don't have a good understanding of exactly
 how keys are set up, the underpinnings of indexing, and, oh, lots of
 ground-level stuff.  Call me a user, and you'd be right -- an
 administrator of databases?  Not so much.

 So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
 should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
 behind the scenes?

 Thanks!

 -Ken


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Re: Database fundamentals: wanna learn.

2009-12-28 Thread Peter Brawley

Ken,


So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
behind the scenes?


http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/tutorial.html

Start at top left and work your way downwards  rightwards at 
http://www.artfulsoftware.com/dbresources.html.


PB

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Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:

Hey, all.  I've been using databases clear back to xBase days; that being
said, I've never had a solid foundation for relational databases.  While I
can muddle by in SQL, I really don't have a good understanding of exactly
how keys are set up, the underpinnings of indexing, and, oh, lots of
ground-level stuff.  Call me a user, and you'd be right -- an
administrator of databases?  Not so much.

So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
behind the scenes?

Thanks!

-Ken


  




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Re: Database fundamentals: wanna learn.

2009-12-28 Thread Mike OK

I have two of Paul's books.  They are both fantastic.


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Hi Ken,
thanks for sharing!

If you want to start from scratch, I would go for a book like this:
http://www.amazon.com/SQL-Complete-Reference-James-Groff/dp/0071592555/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
I did not 'read' it thru, but this is the one I would buy.

If you want to embrace MySQL, in my opinion, the best book you can get is
MySQL 4th edition by Paul DuBois.
It's complete, even more, very readable, and it can be with you for a long
time.

But if you need to grasp better the basic concepts go for a generik SQL
book(like the top one), then go with MySQL specific if you want, or 
others.


Cheers

Claudio




2009/12/28 Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org


Hey, all.  I've been using databases clear back to xBase days; that being
said, I've never had a solid foundation for relational databases.  While 
I

can muddle by in SQL, I really don't have a good understanding of exactly
how keys are set up, the underpinnings of indexing, and, oh, lots of
ground-level stuff.  Call me a user, and you'd be right -- an
administrator of databases?  Not so much.

So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
behind the scenes?

Thanks!

-Ken


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Re: Database fundamentals: wanna learn.

2009-12-28 Thread Martijn Tonies




Hey, all.  I've been using databases clear back to xBase days; that being
said, I've never had a solid foundation for relational databases.  While I
can muddle by in SQL, I really don't have a good understanding of exactly
how keys are set up, the underpinnings of indexing, and, oh, lots of
ground-level stuff.  Call me a user, and you'd be right -- an
administrator of databases?  Not so much.

So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
behind the scenes?


I'd suggest you start learning about relational theory first, SQL later,
any specific DBMS after that (or together with SQL).

Indexing, for example, has nothing to do per-se with relational
databases ;-)

With regards,

Martijn Tonies
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Re: Database fundamentals: wanna learn.

2009-12-28 Thread Gary Smith

Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:

Hey, all.  I've been using databases clear back to xBase days; that being
said, I've never had a solid foundation for relational databases.  While I
can muddle by in SQL, I really don't have a good understanding of exactly
how keys are set up, the underpinnings of indexing, and, oh, lots of
ground-level stuff.  Call me a user, and you'd be right -- an
administrator of databases?  Not so much.

So, any suggestions -- books, courses, web sites, what-have-you -- that I
should be hitting up so I can have a better grasp of what's going on
behind the scenes?
  
I recently attended Sun's MySQL DBA course 
(http://www.mysql.com/training/schedule.php?class=5200) which I can 
heartily recommend. The course covers the kind of things you're after, 
including indexing, how the engines work (ie pros and cons), backups, etc.


Cheers,

Gary

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