Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-25 Thread SGreen
Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/24/2005 05:19:18 PM:

 Hi,
 
   We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google Maps 

 API.
 
   To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from October 
 3 through October 14th.
 
 The result of this map is at: 
 http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460
 
   Would like to hear what you think of it.
 
   Best wishes
 
 Claire
 
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   1684 Nightingale Avenue Suite 201
   Sunnyvale, CA 94087408-733-2737(fax)
 
   http://www.zeemaps.com
 
 

I think your map is cool but you my information doesn't show up correctly. 
I know it's not your fault, It's my network's fault.  Several people have 
tried to reverse my IP address into a real location and have thought I was 
anywhere from Nashville (where you found me), to Atlanta, to Raleigh. 

My actual location is in Spruce Pine, NC (USA) 28777

It's not important to me to get my flag in the correct place but this 
information may help you to refine your data mining techniques.

Thank you and good job!

Shawn Green
Database Administrator
Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine

Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Claire McLister

Hi,

 We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google Maps 
API.


 To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from October 
3 through October 14th.


The result of this map is at:  
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460


 Would like to hear what you think of it.

 Best wishes

Claire

 --
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 1684 Nightingale Avenue     Suite 201
 Sunnyvale, CA 94087        408-733-2737(fax)

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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Robert L Cochran
This is awesome! You missed me by 3 days. It looks like you can see the 
exact street and house that an email originated from. I like the mapping 
capability very much.


Bob Cochran


Claire McLister wrote:


Hi,

 We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google 
Maps API.


 To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from October 
3 through October 14th.


The result of this map is at:  
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460


 Would like to hear what you think of it.

 Best wishes

Claire

 --
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 1684 Nightingale Avenue Suite 201
 Sunnyvale, CA 94087408-733-2737(fax)

http://www.zeemaps.com






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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Brian Dunning

That's awesome! I love it. Even though it didn't include me...  :(

How are you doing the geotargeting?

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RE: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Hi Claire,

I thought Daniel Kasak was in Sydney? It is about 2000kms from Alice Springs 
8-) Apart from that, very good.

Regards

David Logan
Database Administrator
HP Managed Services
148 Frome Street,
Adelaide 5000
Australia

+61 8 8408 4273 - Work
+61 417 268 665 - Mobile
+61 8 8408 4259 - Fax


-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 6:49 AM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Map of MySQL Users

Hi,

  We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google Maps 
API.

  To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from October 
3 through October 14th.

The result of this map is at:  
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460

  Would like to hear what you think of it.

  Best wishes

Claire

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  Sunnyvale, CA 94087        408-733-2737(fax)

http://www.zeemaps.com



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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 14:19 -0700, Claire McLister wrote:
   We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google Maps 
 API.
 
   To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from October 
 3 through October 14th.
 
 The result of this map is at:  
 http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460
 
   Would like to hear what you think of it.

Very cool. You got me on the wrong island (I'm in Christchurch, South
Island, New Zealand; not Wellington, North Island, New Zealand) but
still very interesting.

How exactly are you finding the geographical location of email senders?

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RE: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread J.R. Bullington
Thank you for your email.

It seems as though you are getting rave reviews from the list. I am sure
that if you want to make this really neat, try creating a simple web login
that allows for you to create an account using the email address, then
update your location so that it can be a little more accurate.

As stated in some of the posts, a lot of times your lat/long service may not
be entirely right as it is basing the lat/long off the mail carrier, not
necessarily the location of the user.

J.R.

PS -- Listers, sorry I didn't CC the list on my first correspondence. Here
it is with her answers.

GREAT JOB CLAIRE  COMPANY!

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Map of MySQL Users

We use the origin IP and then convert it to a latitude/longitude using a
commercial service. There are several services available these days to do
this conversion.

We use any email posted to the list for which we can get  a decent IP value.
It could be from a registered MySQL user or not. Even a single post should
get you on the map. The only thing is a special email address needs to be
added to the list so that we can get location information from each email.

Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I think adding a geographical dimension to
the email lists brings up interesting possibilities.

Let me know if you want to see maps of other email lists.

Claire


On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:05 PM, J.R. Bullington wrote:

 Couple of questions for you --

 What are you using to keep pinpoint the origin of the submitted emails?
 PING, TRACERT, WHOIS off the domain names?

 Are you only doing original posts, or original  replies?
 Do they need to be registered users of mySQL or just post to the list?
 Do you have to post / reply a minimum number of times to be 
 noticed/added onto the list?

 -- Now back to the original topic --

 The popup JS is great (love the filter / search feature).
 It's a great system and, if used, I think it will bring MySQL users 
 together and help in creating site/regional specific MySQL 
 lists/conferences.


 Thanks for listening!

 J.R.

 -Original Message-
 From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:19 PM
 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Map of MySQL Users

 Hi,

   We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google 
 Maps API.

   To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from 
 October
 3 through October 14th.

 The result of this map is at:
 http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460

   Would like to hear what you think of it.

   Best wishes

 Claire

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   1684 Nightingale Avenue     Suite 201
   Sunnyvale, CA 94087        408-733-2737(fax)

   http://www.zeemaps.com



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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Peter J Milanese
This is particularly troublesome when it come to isp accounts. I.E., all aol 
users showing Reston as their base.

I tried something like this using whois databases and had the same issues. I 
canned the idea for now.

P

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- Original Message -
From: J.R. Bullington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10/24/2005 07:58 PM
To: 'Claire McLister' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: Map of MySQL Users

Thank you for your email.

It seems as though you are getting rave reviews from the list. I am sure
that if you want to make this really neat, try creating a simple web login
that allows for you to create an account using the email address, then
update your location so that it can be a little more accurate.

As stated in some of the posts, a lot of times your lat/long service may not
be entirely right as it is basing the lat/long off the mail carrier, not
necessarily the location of the user.

J.R.

PS -- Listers, sorry I didn't CC the list on my first correspondence. Here
it is with her answers.

GREAT JOB CLAIRE  COMPANY!

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Map of MySQL Users

We use the origin IP and then convert it to a latitude/longitude using a
commercial service. There are several services available these days to do
this conversion.

We use any email posted to the list for which we can get  a decent IP value.
It could be from a registered MySQL user or not. Even a single post should
get you on the map. The only thing is a special email address needs to be
added to the list so that we can get location information from each email.

Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I think adding a geographical dimension to
the email lists brings up interesting possibilities.

Let me know if you want to see maps of other email lists.

Claire


On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:05 PM, J.R. Bullington wrote:

 Couple of questions for you --

 What are you using to keep pinpoint the origin of the submitted emails?
 PING, TRACERT, WHOIS off the domain names?

 Are you only doing original posts, or original  replies?
 Do they need to be registered users of mySQL or just post to the list?
 Do you have to post / reply a minimum number of times to be
 noticed/added onto the list?

 -- Now back to the original topic --

 The popup JS is great (love the filter / search feature).
 It's a great system and, if used, I think it will bring MySQL users
 together and help in creating site/regional specific MySQL
 lists/conferences.


 Thanks for listening!

 J.R.

 -Original Message-
 From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:19 PM
 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Map of MySQL Users

 Hi,

   We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google
 Maps API.

   To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from
 October
 3 through October 14th.

 The result of this map is at:
 http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460

   Would like to hear what you think of it.

   Best wishes

 Claire

   --
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   1684 Nightingale Avenue     Suite 201
   Sunnyvale, CA 94087        408-733-2737(fax)

   http://www.zeemaps.com



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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Claire McLister
We do allow manual modifications to maps, through separate passwords 
for group moderators, members, and viewers.


In our case, I have set the group password to 'mysqlmap'. Please feel 
free to add your entries to the map. This password will only allow you 
to add entries, or to modify existing entries. Currently we do not 
support modifying entry locations, so if you really want to change an 
entry, you will have to delete the existing entry.


I've added a legend of 'red' = automatic, and 'blue' = manual. So, if 
you add your entry manually, please make its color blue.


Let me know if this level of password management is not sufficient.

Thanks for your encouragement.

Claire


On Oct 24, 2005, at 4:58 PM, J.R. Bullington wrote:


Thank you for your email.

It seems as though you are getting rave reviews from the list. I am 
sure
that if you want to make this really neat, try creating a simple web 
login

that allows for you to create an account using the email address, then
update your location so that it can be a little more accurate.

As stated in some of the posts, a lot of times your lat/long service 
may not
be entirely right as it is basing the lat/long off the mail carrier, 
not

necessarily the location of the user.

J.R.

PS -- Listers, sorry I didn't CC the list on my first correspondence. 
Here

it is with her answers.

GREAT JOB CLAIRE  COMPANY!

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Map of MySQL Users

We use the origin IP and then convert it to a latitude/longitude using 
a
commercial service. There are several services available these days to 
do

this conversion.

We use any email posted to the list for which we can get  a decent IP 
value.
It could be from a registered MySQL user or not. Even a single post 
should
get you on the map. The only thing is a special email address needs to 
be
added to the list so that we can get location information from each 
email.


Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I think adding a geographical dimension 
to

the email lists brings up interesting possibilities.

Let me know if you want to see maps of other email lists.

Claire


On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:05 PM, J.R. Bullington wrote:


Couple of questions for you --

What are you using to keep pinpoint the origin of the submitted 
emails?

PING, TRACERT, WHOIS off the domain names?

Are you only doing original posts, or original  replies?
Do they need to be registered users of mySQL or just post to the list?
Do you have to post / reply a minimum number of times to be
noticed/added onto the list?

-- Now back to the original topic --

The popup JS is great (love the filter / search feature).
It's a great system and, if used, I think it will bring MySQL users
together and help in creating site/regional specific MySQL
lists/conferences.


Thanks for listening!

J.R.

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:19 PM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Map of MySQL Users

Hi,

  We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google
Maps API.

  To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from
October
3 through October 14th.

The result of this map is at:
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460

  Would like to hear what you think of it.

  Best wishes

Claire

  --
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  1684 Nightingale Avenue     Suite 201
  Sunnyvale, CA 94087        408-733-2737(fax)

http://www.zeemaps.com



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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Claire McLister

Peter,

 We try to take care of the situation where people are coming from an 
ISP account.


 Let me know if you think there is a specific case that is not right on 
our map. I searched for AOL in the map, and did not find a single entry 
from AOL.


 We do not use whois databases. As you correctly point out, those can 
be very misleading. We utilize a commercial service for mapping IP to 
location, and so far we've had very good success with them. For 
example, if you go to the web page, 
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/help.do, then in the paragraph under the 
heading Automatic Maps the last sentence should give you the location 
of your IP.


Claire

On Oct 24, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote:

This is particularly troublesome when it come to isp accounts. I.E., 
all aol users showing Reston as their base.


I tried something like this using whois databases and had the same 
issues. I canned the idea for now.


P

-
Sent from my NYPL BlackBerry Handheld.


- Original Message -
From: J.R. Bullington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10/24/2005 07:58 PM
To: 'Claire McLister' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: Map of MySQL Users

Thank you for your email.

It seems as though you are getting rave reviews from the list. I am 
sure
that if you want to make this really neat, try creating a simple web 
login

that allows for you to create an account using the email address, then
update your location so that it can be a little more accurate.

As stated in some of the posts, a lot of times your lat/long service 
may not
be entirely right as it is basing the lat/long off the mail carrier, 
not

necessarily the location of the user.

J.R.

PS -- Listers, sorry I didn't CC the list on my first correspondence. 
Here

it is with her answers.

GREAT JOB CLAIRE  COMPANY!

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Map of MySQL Users

We use the origin IP and then convert it to a latitude/longitude using 
a
commercial service. There are several services available these days to 
do

this conversion.

We use any email posted to the list for which we can get  a decent IP 
value.
It could be from a registered MySQL user or not. Even a single post 
should
get you on the map. The only thing is a special email address needs to 
be
added to the list so that we can get location information from each 
email.


Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I think adding a geographical dimension 
to

the email lists brings up interesting possibilities.

Let me know if you want to see maps of other email lists.

Claire


On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:05 PM, J.R. Bullington wrote:


Couple of questions for you --

What are you using to keep pinpoint the origin of the submitted 
emails?

PING, TRACERT, WHOIS off the domain names?

Are you only doing original posts, or original  replies?
Do they need to be registered users of mySQL or just post to the list?
Do you have to post / reply a minimum number of times to be
noticed/added onto the list?

-- Now back to the original topic --

The popup JS is great (love the filter / search feature).
It's a great system and, if used, I think it will bring MySQL users
together and help in creating site/regional specific MySQL
lists/conferences.


Thanks for listening!

J.R.

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:19 PM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Map of MySQL Users

Hi,

  We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google
Maps API.

  To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from
October
3 through October 14th.

The result of this map is at:
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460

  Would like to hear what you think of it.

  Best wishes

Claire

  --
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  1684 Nightingale Avenue     Suite 201
  Sunnyvale, CA 94087        408-733-2737(fax)

http://www.zeemaps.com



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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Robert L Cochran
This shows me as being in Washington, DC. My ISP has a point-of-presence 
somewhere in the city. My physical location is Greenbelt, Maryland, USA.


Bob Cochran

Claire McLister wrote:


Peter,

 We try to take care of the situation where people are coming from an 
ISP account.


 Let me know if you think there is a specific case that is not right 
on our map. I searched for AOL in the map, and did not find a single 
entry from AOL.


 We do not use whois databases. As you correctly point out, those can 
be very misleading. We utilize a commercial service for mapping IP to 
location, and so far we've had very good success with them. For 
example, if you go to the web page, 
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/help.do, then in the paragraph under the 
heading Automatic Maps the last sentence should give you the 
location of your IP.


Claire

On Oct 24, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote:

This is particularly troublesome when it come to isp accounts. I.E., 
all aol users showing Reston as their base.


I tried something like this using whois databases and had the same 
issues. I canned the idea for now.


P

-
Sent from my NYPL BlackBerry Handheld.


- Original Message -
From: J.R. Bullington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10/24/2005 07:58 PM
To: 'Claire McLister' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: Map of MySQL Users

Thank you for your email.

It seems as though you are getting rave reviews from the list. I am sure
that if you want to make this really neat, try creating a simple web 
login

that allows for you to create an account using the email address, then
update your location so that it can be a little more accurate.

As stated in some of the posts, a lot of times your lat/long service 
may not

be entirely right as it is basing the lat/long off the mail carrier, not
necessarily the location of the user.

J.R.

PS -- Listers, sorry I didn't CC the list on my first correspondence. 
Here

it is with her answers.

GREAT JOB CLAIRE  COMPANY!

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Map of MySQL Users

We use the origin IP and then convert it to a latitude/longitude using a
commercial service. There are several services available these days 
to do

this conversion.

We use any email posted to the list for which we can get  a decent IP 
value.
It could be from a registered MySQL user or not. Even a single post 
should
get you on the map. The only thing is a special email address needs 
to be
added to the list so that we can get location information from each 
email.


Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I think adding a geographical 
dimension to

the email lists brings up interesting possibilities.

Let me know if you want to see maps of other email lists.

Claire


On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:05 PM, J.R. Bullington wrote:


Couple of questions for you --

What are you using to keep pinpoint the origin of the submitted emails?
PING, TRACERT, WHOIS off the domain names?

Are you only doing original posts, or original  replies?
Do they need to be registered users of mySQL or just post to the list?
Do you have to post / reply a minimum number of times to be
noticed/added onto the list?

-- Now back to the original topic --

The popup JS is great (love the filter / search feature).
It's a great system and, if used, I think it will bring MySQL users
together and help in creating site/regional specific MySQL
lists/conferences.


Thanks for listening!

J.R.

-Original Message-
From: Claire McLister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:19 PM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Map of MySQL Users

Hi,

  We've developed an automatic email mapping capability from Google
Maps API.

  To try it out, we mapped origins of emails to this group from
October
3 through October 14th.

The result of this map is at:
http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=460

  Would like to hear what you think of it.

  Best wishes

Claire

  --
  Claire McLister[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1684 Nightingale Avenue Suite 201
  Sunnyvale, CA 94087408-733-2737(fax)

http://www.zeemaps.com



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Re: Map of MySQL Users

2005-10-24 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

[posted only]

On Oct 24, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Claire McLister wrote:

if you go to the web page, http://www.zeesource.net/maps/help.do,  
then in the paragraph under the heading Automatic Maps the last  
sentence should give you the location of your IP.


Hmm.  That located me perfectly, but on the map, I was off by 2000km.

However, I had just updated my location (deleted my entry and then  
created a new one with my correct address), so if that fed back into  
the location system, that might explain it.


And this is great.

-j


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