Re: MySQL Administration Tools

2004-01-26 Thread jurban
 At 11:19 -0800 1/22/04, David Blomstrom wrote:
 
 I'm using a preconfigured package that includes PHPMyAdmin, which
 seems to be a pretty good program. However, I just read that similar
 programs are available, including MySQL Control Center, EMS MySQL
 Manager, urSAL, PremiumSoft MySQL Studio and MySQLGUI. I just
 wondered if there might be some advantage to having two or more such
 programs installed. Would working with MySQL through two different
 interfaces give you a different perspective, making it a little
 easier to understand? Or are there particular strengths each program
 has?
 
 Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each
 other? If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be
 recognized by MSQL Control Center? Could you work on MySQL with both
 programs on at the same time?

 I just wondered if there might be some advantage to having two or more
 suchprograms installed. Would working with MySQL through two different
 interfaces give you a different perspective, making it a little
 easier to understand? Or are there particular strengths each program
 has?

I believe so, as you get different persectives from different interfaces.
As far as easier to understand, I think that's relative to one's current
understanding -- certainly different people prefer different tools.  Many
of the programs attempt to provide the same basic functionality, but
certainly most have some key strengths -- a tool like urSQL, for example,
isn't as strong at administration, as it's geared more toward SQL
development, query testing, and ad hoc queries.

 Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each
 other?

No, I'm not aware of any conflicts between MySQL tools and it doesn't seem
likely that there would be.

 If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be
 recognized by MSQL Control Center?

Definitely.  The database creation is handled at the MySQL server and is
independent of the tool.

 Could you work on MySQL with both programs on at the same time?

This should also be possible.  However, you might want to be careful with
updates and deletes as one program could easily overwrite a previous
update or incorrectly identify a row (e.g. when a value of a where clause
changes).


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MySQL Administration Tools

2004-01-22 Thread David Blomstrom
I'm using a preconfigured package that includes PHPMyAdmin, which seems to 
be a pretty good program. However, I just read that similar programs are 
available, including MySQL Control Center, EMS MySQL Manager, urSAL, 
PremiumSoft MySQL Studio and MySQLGUI. I just wondered if there might be 
some advantage to having two or more such programs installed. Would working 
with MySQL through two different interfaces give you a different 
perspective, making it a little easier to understand? Or are there 
particular strengths each program has?

Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each other? 
If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be recognized by 
MSQL Control Center? Could you work on MySQL with both programs on at the 
same time?

Thanks.



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Re: MySQL Administration Tools

2004-01-22 Thread Paul DuBois
At 11:19 -0800 1/22/04, David Blomstrom wrote:
I'm using a preconfigured package that includes PHPMyAdmin, which 
seems to be a pretty good program. However, I just read that similar 
programs are available, including MySQL Control Center, EMS MySQL 
Manager, urSAL, PremiumSoft MySQL Studio and MySQLGUI. I just 
wondered if there might be some advantage to having two or more such 
programs installed. Would working with MySQL through two different 
interfaces give you a different perspective, making it a little 
easier to understand? Or are there particular strengths each program 
has?

Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each 
other? If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be 
recognized by MSQL Control Center? Could you work on MySQL with both 
programs on at the same time?
Yes on both counts.

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Re: MySQL Administration Tools

2004-01-22 Thread James E Hicks III
On Thursday 22 January 2004 02:19 pm, David Blomstrom wrote:
 I'm using a preconfigured package that includes PHPMyAdmin, which seems to
 be a pretty good program. However, I just read that similar programs are
 available, including MySQL Control Center, EMS MySQL Manager, urSAL,
 PremiumSoft MySQL Studio and MySQLGUI. I just wondered if there might be
 some advantage to having two or more such programs installed. Would working
 with MySQL through two different interfaces give you a different
 perspective, making it a little easier to understand? Or are there
 particular strengths each program has?

All should support what MySQL offers. Whether they do or not is another 
question. Use what you find most useful.


 Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each other?

No.

 If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be recognized by
 MSQL Control Center? 

Yes

 Could you work on MySQL with both programs on at the
 same time?

Yes


 Thanks.

You're welcome.

James



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Re: MySQL Administration Tools

2004-01-22 Thread Paul DuBois
At 13:34 -0600 1/22/04, Paul DuBois wrote:
At 11:19 -0800 1/22/04, David Blomstrom wrote:
I'm using a preconfigured package that includes PHPMyAdmin, which 
seems to be a pretty good program. However, I just read that 
similar programs are available, including MySQL Control Center, EMS 
MySQL Manager, urSAL, PremiumSoft MySQL Studio and MySQLGUI. I just 
wondered if there might be some advantage to having two or more 
such programs installed. Would working with MySQL through two 
different interfaces give you a different perspective, making it a 
little easier to understand? Or are there particular strengths each 
program has?

Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each 
other? If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be 
recognized by MSQL Control Center? Could you work on MySQL with 
both programs on at the same time?
Yes on both counts.
Whoops, there are three counts, not two.

The answers are no, yes, yes. :-)

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Re: MySQL Administration Tools

2004-01-22 Thread Patrick Shoaf
At 02:19 PM 1/22/2004, David Blomstrom wrote:
I'm using a preconfigured package that includes PHPMyAdmin, which seems to 
be a pretty good program. However, I just read that similar programs are 
available, including MySQL Control Center, EMS MySQL Manager, urSAL, 
PremiumSoft MySQL Studio and MySQLGUI. I just wondered if there might be 
some advantage to having two or more such programs installed. Would 
working with MySQL through two different interfaces give you a different 
perspective, making it a little easier to understand? Or are there 
particular strengths each program has?

Also, would different MySQL administration tools conflict with each other? 
If you created a new database with phpMyAdmin, would it be recognized by 
MSQL Control Center? Could you work on MySQL with both programs on at the 
same time?

Thanks.
I have both PHPMyAdmin  MySQL Control Center Installed, and use 
both.  Each program has a slightly different interface and method of access 
the databases, tables, and configuration information.  Two big 
differencesall interfaces must be able to directly access the SQL 
Server.  The thing about the PHPMyAdmin is that you install it on a web 
server that has access to the MySQL server.  I have my SQL server behind a 
firewall and no one outside of the local LAN can access the SQL server.  So 
when I am out of the office and need access to the SQL databases/server, I 
always use PHPMyAdmin.  I have one machine with secure access setup running 
PHPMyAdmin that I access from the Internet, then use PHPMyAdmin on the Web 
Server to access and work on the mySQL Server.



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