Re: My Company DB Wars

2003-10-27 Thread daniel

 My old Micro-Economics professor must be chortling in his grave...

 The bosses told me a few minutes ago to quit pusing MySQL for an
 internal project and to move my proof-of-concept tables from MySQL
 running on a Linux desktop with 512mb of ram and the bloody DB on an
 external USB to a DB2 database running on a Win2K server with 1GB ram
 and a 120 GB raid system. The reason? TPTB simply can't believe that a
 licensed MySQL system at $450 for the base license, no connected user
 fees and $2,500 per year for advanced support (we need InnoDB, FK
 constraints and transaction safe tables) can possibly be as good as DB2
 at a minimum of 5 times the software cost.

Oh dear the classic case of , if its more expensive it must be good right ?

Afterall, DB2 has
 triggers and stored procedures

something i am waiting for

(although nobody -- including the
 contractors actually doing the coding -- can point to a single stored
 procedure or trigger that is essential to the project). The
 contractors ARE making fairly extensive use of views but I've already
 figured out three ways around them.


and would you like to share how to get around this ??

 Go figger.




 I will continue to use MySQL for testbedding. Also, since I'm the
 gate-keeper for the contractor's code, I'm going to keep their stuff as
 generic as possible.

 BTW, one question, does MySQL run on the AS400?

 Randy

keep up the struggle man.



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RE: My Company DB Wars

2003-10-27 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Tell them Yahoo, Google and others use mysql in the order of power  50
servers.

50-1000 servers actually.

So, with all the great talent @ Yahoo / Google as well as these 2
companies being profitable maybe some things in life are really 2 good
to be true.

Usually no brain-er debates are the best way to win with managers.



- Dathan Vance Pattishall
  - Sr. Programmer and mySQL DBA for FriendFinder Inc.
  - http://friendfinder.com/go/p40688


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--Subject: My Company DB Wars
--
--
--My old Micro-Economics professor must be chortling in his grave...
--
--The bosses told me a few minutes ago to quit pusing MySQL for an
--internal project and to move my proof-of-concept tables from MySQL
--running on a Linux desktop with 512mb of ram and the bloody DB on an
--external USB to a DB2 database running on a Win2K server with 1GB ram
--and a 120 GB raid system. The reason? TPTB simply can't believe that
--a
--licensed MySQL system at $450 for the base license, no connected user
--fees and $2,500 per year for advanced support (we need InnoDB, FK
--constraints and transaction safe tables) can possibly be as good as
--DB2 at a minimum of 5 times the software cost. Afterall, DB2 has
--triggers and stored procedures (although nobody -- including the
--contractors actually doing the coding -- can point to a single stored
--procedure or trigger that is essential to the project). The
--contractors ARE making fairly extensive use of views but I've already
--figured out three ways around them.
--
--Go figger.
--
--I will continue to use MySQL for testbedding. Also, since I'm the
--gate-keeper for the contractor's code, I'm going to keep their stuff
--as generic as possible.
--
--BTW, one question, does MySQL run on the AS400?
--
--Randy
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RE: My Company DB Wars

2003-10-27 Thread Dan Greene
It's because you forgot to put the new cover sheet on your TPS (transaction per 
second, in this case) report

Did you get the memo?


Similar thing happened to my college... they doubled their tuition over 5 years 
because as the president of the univeristy put it, 'good colleges are expensive'

I'll send you that memo


:D

Dan Greene

 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Chrismon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: My Company DB Wars
 
 
 
 My old Micro-Economics professor must be chortling in his grave...
 
 The bosses told me a few minutes ago to quit pusing MySQL for an
 internal project and to move my proof-of-concept tables from MySQL
 running on a Linux desktop with 512mb of ram and the bloody DB on an
 external USB to a DB2 database running on a Win2K server with 1GB ram
 and a 120 GB raid system. The reason? TPTB simply can't believe that
 a
 licensed MySQL system at $450 for the base license, no connected user
 fees and $2,500 per year for advanced support (we need InnoDB, FK
 constraints and transaction safe tables) can possibly be as good as
 DB2 at a minimum of 5 times the software cost. Afterall, DB2 has
 triggers and stored procedures (although nobody -- including the
 contractors actually doing the coding -- can point to a single stored
 procedure or trigger that is essential to the project). The
 contractors ARE making fairly extensive use of views but I've already
 figured out three ways around them. 
 
 Go figger. 
 
 I will continue to use MySQL for testbedding. Also, since I'm the
 gate-keeper for the contractor's code, I'm going to keep their stuff
 as generic as possible. 
 
 BTW, one question, does MySQL run on the AS400?
 
 Randy
 
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Re: My Company DB Wars

2003-10-27 Thread PeterWR
Hi,

You could bring the attention to www.mysql.com  - probably German software
company SAP would not integrate with MySQL, if there were any kind of
problems.

Further You could look at the success stories (
http://www.mysql.com/press/user_stories/index.html ), and You will find
NASA, Yahoo! Finance among others.

best regards
Peter



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Subject: My Company DB Wars



My old Micro-Economics professor must be chortling in his grave...

The bosses told me a few minutes ago to quit pusing MySQL for an
internal project and to move my proof-of-concept tables from MySQL
running on a Linux desktop with 512mb of ram and the bloody DB on an
external USB to a DB2 database running on a Win2K server with 1GB ram
and a 120 GB raid system. The reason? TPTB simply can't believe that
a
licensed MySQL system at $450 for the base license, no connected user
fees and $2,500 per year for advanced support (we need InnoDB, FK
constraints and transaction safe tables) can possibly be as good as
DB2 at a minimum of 5 times the software cost. Afterall, DB2 has
triggers and stored procedures (although nobody -- including the
contractors actually doing the coding -- can point to a single stored
procedure or trigger that is essential to the project). The
contractors ARE making fairly extensive use of views but I've already
figured out three ways around them.

Go figger.

I will continue to use MySQL for testbedding. Also, since I'm the
gate-keeper for the contractor's code, I'm going to keep their stuff
as generic as possible.

BTW, one question, does MySQL run on the AS400?

Randy

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Re: My Company DB Wars

2003-10-27 Thread daniel
 Hi,

 You could bring the attention to www.mysql.com  - probably German
 software company SAP would not integrate with MySQL, if there were any
 kind of problems.


Sorry a bit off topic, speaking of the germans, it seems that PHP and MYsql
is prolific in germany, as a widely used choice. I work soley with php and
mysql and have been for a good few years now. I was wondering how hard it
would be to find work in germany doing this, and how i could go about it ?
Sorry for offtopic.

There is still alot of limitations, but 4 is a huge step from 3, still
waiting for the 4.1 release. I really wish i could code c, to help with the
process ;\



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