Re: Document archiving

2007-06-28 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 01:50 -0400, Eddy D. Sanchez wrote:

 Thanks for your answer.
 
 I'm searching an opensource project (based on mysql obviously) that I  
 can hack for my needs, but if I can't find anything, I must make one,  
 my intention for technology is:
 -Java for application server and framework
 -store all image on a file server or into database like binary files  
 (any sugestion)
 -user management policies
 -client interface for scan documents and storage on a database
 -any server for document consulting
 
 This application should be opensource.
 
 If you want participate just tell me, for hack one or develop from  
 scratch.

I'm OK with everything apart from the Java bit. Sorry. It's not really
my cup of tea ( no offence ... I realise that most Java people say the
same thing about Perl ).

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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-28 Thread John Meyer
David T. Ashley wrote:

 Also, I have to say this to be complete ...

 You were aware, of course, that nearly every modern copyright for books
 prohibits digitizing the book and using it in any kind of document
 retrieval
 system?  In fact, I believe a violation has occured even if it is scanned
 and the data is never used.

 I just had to say this.  I don't know how U.K. prisons are, but here
 in the
 U.S. they are full of large unpleasant men who have done bad things
 and may
 do more bad things ... to you, for example.

And the concept that he's using these on internal documents that his
company owns the copyright on didn't occur to you?


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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-28 Thread John Meyer
Eddy D. Sanchez wrote:
 Hello Everyone.

 I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store these
 like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql, anyone
 have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest me an
 opensource solution ??

First question I would have for you is do you need instant (as opposed
to just want) retrieval  of that information over the computer, or do
you have them located in a library somewhere.  If it's the latter, you
may want to use something like mysql to just store key information about
those documents like title keywords etc and their location just to
reduce redundency.  I'd hate to think of the bill for all those manhours
scanning books even if they are, say, only 50 pages each.

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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-28 Thread John Meyer
Eddy D. Sanchez wrote:
 Thanks for your answer.

 I'm searching an opensource project (based on mysql obviously) that I
 can hack for my needs, but if I can't find anything, I must make one,
 my intention for technology is:
 -Java for application server and framework

Might I ask why you need Java per se.  Is it just because you want
platform independence?  If so, there are multiple ways to get to that. 
Nailing yourself down on a particular language will end up limiting your
field of options.

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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread David T. Ashley

On 6/27/07, Eddy D. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Everyone.

I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store
these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,
anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest
me an opensource solution ??



Well, I never figured out exactly what the product DOES (because the website
uses terms that are just too modern for me ... from my point of view they
are promising to quantum sporkify my enterprise paradigm delivery
multiphasic client-heavy empowerment model), but, here goes ...

www.alfresco.com

Good luck.  If you figure what the product does, please post a translation
of their website for me.

Dave.


Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread David T. Ashley

On 6/27/07, Eddy D. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Everyone.

I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store
these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,
anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest
me an opensource solution ??



Also, I have to say this to be complete ...

You were aware, of course, that nearly every modern copyright for books
prohibits digitizing the book and using it in any kind of document retrieval
system?  In fact, I believe a violation has occured even if it is scanned
and the data is never used.

I just had to say this.  I don't know how U.K. prisons are, but here in the
U.S. they are full of large unpleasant men who have done bad things and may
do more bad things ... to you, for example.


Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread Gary

David T. Ashley wrote:

On 6/27/07, Eddy D. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Everyone.

I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store
these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,
anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest
me an opensource solution ??



Well, I never figured out exactly what the product DOES (because the 
website

uses terms that are just too modern for me ... from my point of view they
are promising to quantum sporkify my enterprise paradigm delivery
multiphasic client-heavy empowerment model), but, here goes ...

www.alfresco.com

Good luck.  If you figure what the product does, please post a 
translation

of their website for me.

Dave.

It's a Content Management System. It makes it easy to deploy files from 
your computer and allows you to easily manage content for multiple sites.


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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread Eddy D. Sanchez
Thanks, but there is no problem with copyright, I want scan and store  
just internal documents from my enterprise




On 27 Jun 2007, at 21:48, David T. Ashley wrote:


On 6/27/07, Eddy D. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Everyone.

I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store
these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,
anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest
me an opensource solution ??



Also, I have to say this to be complete ...

You were aware, of course, that nearly every modern copyright for  
books
prohibits digitizing the book and using it in any kind of document  
retrieval
system?  In fact, I believe a violation has occured even if it is  
scanned

and the data is never used.

I just had to say this.  I don't know how U.K. prisons are, but  
here in the
U.S. they are full of large unpleasant men who have done bad things  
and may

do more bad things ... to you, for example.



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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread Eddy D. Sanchez
MMM, yes, but I think that CMS isn't the solution, I want to store a  
large amount of documents and organize it with best performance for  
indexing, searching and viewing.





On 27 Jun 2007, at 22:57, Gary wrote:


David T. Ashley wrote:

On 6/27/07, Eddy D. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Everyone.

I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store
these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,
anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you  
suggest

me an opensource solution ??



Well, I never figured out exactly what the product DOES (because  
the website
uses terms that are just too modern for me ... from my point of  
view they

are promising to quantum sporkify my enterprise paradigm delivery
multiphasic client-heavy empowerment model), but, here goes ...

www.alfresco.com

Good luck.  If you figure what the product does, please post a  
translation

of their website for me.

Dave.

It's a Content Management System. It makes it easy to deploy files  
from your computer and allows you to easily manage content for  
multiple sites.


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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 20:07 -0400, Eddy D. Sanchez wrote:

 Hello Everyone.
 
 I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store  
 these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,  
 anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest  
 me an opensource solution ??

I've considered doing this, from time to time, in an open-source CMS. I
posted ... somewhere ... maybe here ... about a year ago, suggesting
that if someone was interested I might hack one up. No-one seemed
particularly interested. Anyway, my intention was:

 - implemented in gtk2-perl
 - cross-platform
 - store all images on a file server
 - allow user to create categories  filter etc
 - produce thumbnails of popular image types ( including PDFs )

It would be a pretty simple project - a couple of days of work, maximum,
for a pretty polished product. Let me know if you can't find anything,
and I may ( time permitting, and I obviously can't do it here at work,
or it wouldn't be open-source ) have a go at it.

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NUS Consulting Group
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North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060
T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Document archiving

2007-06-27 Thread Eddy D. Sanchez

Thanks for your answer.

I'm searching an opensource project (based on mysql obviously) that I  
can hack for my needs, but if I can't find anything, I must make one,  
my intention for technology is:

-Java for application server and framework
-store all image on a file server or into database like binary files  
(any sugestion)

-user management policies
-client interface for scan documents and storage on a database
-any server for document consulting

This application should be opensource.

If you want participate just tell me, for hack one or develop from  
scratch.



On 28 Jun 2007, at 01:04, Daniel Kasak wrote:


On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 20:07 -0400, Eddy D. Sanchez wrote:


Hello Everyone.

I want to scan a large quantity of books and documents and store
these like images inside or outside a database, I want use mysql,
anyone have any experience with this kind of systems, can you suggest
me an opensource solution ??


I've considered doing this, from time to time, in an open-source  
CMS. I

posted ... somewhere ... maybe here ... about a year ago, suggesting
that if someone was interested I might hack one up. No-one seemed
particularly interested. Anyway, my intention was:

 - implemented in gtk2-perl
 - cross-platform
 - store all images on a file server
 - allow user to create categories  filter etc
 - produce thumbnails of popular image types ( including PDFs )

It would be a pretty simple project - a couple of days of work,  
maximum,

for a pretty polished product. Let me know if you can't find anything,
and I may ( time permitting, and I obviously can't do it here at work,
or it wouldn't be open-source ) have a go at it.

--
Daniel Kasak
IT Developer
NUS Consulting Group
Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway
North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060
T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au




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