RE: Renaming a database?

[Daevid Vincent]

> -Original Message-
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Jerry Schwartz  wrote:
> 
> > It looks like there’s no way to rename a database. Is that true?

I know. Retarded right? Version 5.1.x and still what would seem the most basic 
of tasks is still impossible. 

Maybe Oracle can fix what MontyAB and Sun couldn't... that feature alone would 
be well worth the $5.6 Billion dollars spent.

I just had a need to do this last week and was astonished to find it's still 
not implemented after all these... well ever! I unfortunately had to dump the 
database to a .sql file, edit said file, re-dump in, then dump in the new 
database, then run a SQL diff tool to find out what schemata and data was 
different. The whole process delayed me a few hours that I didn't budget for. 
Talk about a hindrance. 

-

And before anyone gets all upset with my use of the word "Retarded"...
Read this: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/rename-database.html

And then the definition:

re•tard•ed

–verb (used with object)
1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, 
etc.); hinder or impede.

–verb (used without object)
2. to be delayed.


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RE: Renaming a database?

[Jerry Schwartz]

 

From: Andrew Moore [mailto:eroomy...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:56 PM
To: Jerry Schwartz
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Renaming a database?

 

Could you try restoring the other db with another name and changing the 
connection string in the app?

[JS] I could, but it would be a nuisance. The app is MS Access, so there isn’t 
just one string to change.

Fortunately my database only takes about 30 minutes to load, so this wasn’t a 
huge problem. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something.

 

Regards,

 

Jerry Schwartz

Global Information Incorporated

195 Farmington Ave.

Farmington, CT 06032

 

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341

E-mail: je...@gii.co.jp 

Web site: www.the-infoshop.com <http://www.the-infoshop.com/> 

 

 

On 24 May 2011 16:20, "Jerry Schwartz"  wrote:
> It looks like there’s no way to rename a database. Is that true?
> 
> 
> 
> I have two reasons for wanting to do this:
> 
> 
> 
> - I want to get a current version of a database out of the way so that I can 
> load in an older version, without having to pay the penalty of reloading the 
> current version.
> 
> - I think I have a database that isn’t being used (don’t ask), and I want to 
> hide it to see if anything blows up.
> 
> 
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Schwartz
> 
> Global Information Incorporated
> 
> 195 Farmington Ave.
> 
> Farmington, CT 06032
> 
> 
> 
> 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
> 
> E-mail: <mailto:je...@gii.co.jp> je...@gii.co.jp 
> 
> Web site: <http://www.the-infoshop.com/> www.the-infoshop.com
> 
> 
> 

Re: Renaming a database?

[Andrew Moore]

Could you try restoring the other db with another name and changing the
connection string in the app?
On 24 May 2011 16:20, "Jerry Schwartz"  wrote:
> It looks like there’s no way to rename a database. Is that true?
>
>
>
> I have two reasons for wanting to do this:
>
>
>
> - I want to get a current version of a database out of the way so that I
can load in an older version, without having to pay the penalty of reloading
the current version.
>
> - I think I have a database that isn’t being used (don’t ask), and I want
to hide it to see if anything blows up.
>
>
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jerry Schwartz
>
> Global Information Incorporated
>
> 195 Farmington Ave.
>
> Farmington, CT 06032
>
>
>
> 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
>
> E-mail:  je...@gii.co.jp
>
> Web site:  www.the-infoshop.com
>
>
>

RE: Renaming a database?

[Jerry Schwartz]

>-Original Message-
>From: Andrew Moore [mailto:eroomy...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:31 AM
>To: Jerry Schwartz
>Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
>Subject: Re: Renaming a database?
>
>Instead of renaming it, revoke permissions to it. If it's being used you
>should see some problems in the application due to access denied.
>
[JS] That's a good suggestion. It takes care of one case, but not the other.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
Farmington, CT 06032

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
E-mail: je...@gii.co.jp
Web site: www.the-infoshop.com

>Andy
>
>On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Jerry Schwartz  wrote:
>
>> It looks like there's no way to rename a database. Is that true?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have two reasons for wanting to do this:
>>
>>
>>
>> - I want to get a current version of a database out of the way so that I
>> can load in an older version, without having to pay the penalty of 
>> reloading
>> the current version.
>>
>> - I think I have a database that isn't being used (don't ask), and I want
>> to hide it to see if anything blows up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry Schwartz
>>
>> Global Information Incorporated
>>
>> 195 Farmington Ave.
>>
>> Farmington, CT 06032
>>
>>
>>
>> 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
>>
>> E-mail:  <mailto:je...@gii.co.jp> je...@gii.co.jp
>>
>> Web site:  <http://www.the-infoshop.com/> www.the-infoshop.com
>>
>>
>>
>>




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RE: Renaming a database?

[Jerry Schwartz]

>-Original Message-
>From: Johan De Meersman [mailto:vegiv...@tuxera.be]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:52 AM
>To: Jerry Schwartz
>Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
>Subject: Re: Renaming a database?
>
>- Original Message -
>> From: "Jerry Schwartz" 
>>
>> It looks like there's no way to rename a database. Is that true?
>
>Yes. Silly oversight, although there's probably complexity reasons behind it.
>
[JS] According to the documentation, this was implemented at one time but it 
caused problems so the feature was removed.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
Farmington, CT 06032

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
E-mail: je...@gii.co.jp
Web site: www.the-infoshop.com



>> - I want to get a current version of a database out of the way so
>> that I can load in an older version, without having to pay the
>> penalty of reloading the current version.
>
>That precludes "rename table db1.blah to db2.blah", I guess - it basically
>copies the whole thing and then kills the old one. Sloww for big tables 
>:-)
>
>> - I think I have a database that isn't being used (don't ask), and I
>> want to hide it to see if anything blows up.
>
>If you are in a position to shut your server down, you may rename the 
>database
>directory while it's down IF you only use MyISAM tables.
>
>If you have InnoDB tables, you're stuck with dump/reload or rename table.
>
>
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Re: Renaming a database?

[Johan De Meersman]

- Original Message -
> From: "Jerry Schwartz" 
>
> It looks like there’s no way to rename a database. Is that true?

Yes. Silly oversight, although there's probably complexity reasons behind it.

> - I want to get a current version of a database out of the way so
> that I can load in an older version, without having to pay the
> penalty of reloading the current version.

That precludes "rename table db1.blah to db2.blah", I guess - it basically 
copies the whole thing and then kills the old one. Sloww for big tables :-)

> - I think I have a database that isn’t being used (don’t ask), and I
> want to hide it to see if anything blows up.

If you are in a position to shut your server down, you may rename the database 
directory while it's down IF you only use MyISAM tables.

If you have InnoDB tables, you're stuck with dump/reload or rename table.


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Re: Renaming a database?

[Andrew Moore]

Instead of renaming it, revoke permissions to it. If it's being used you
should see some problems in the application due to access denied.

Andy

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Jerry Schwartz  wrote:

> It looks like there’s no way to rename a database. Is that true?
>
>
>
> I have two reasons for wanting to do this:
>
>
>
> - I want to get a current version of a database out of the way so that I
> can load in an older version, without having to pay the penalty of reloading
> the current version.
>
> - I think I have a database that isn’t being used (don’t ask), and I want
> to hide it to see if anything blows up.
>
>
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jerry Schwartz
>
> Global Information Incorporated
>
> 195 Farmington Ave.
>
> Farmington, CT 06032
>
>
>
> 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
>
> E-mail:   je...@gii.co.jp
>
> Web site:   www.the-infoshop.com
>
>
>
>

Re: Renaming a Database

[Matt Neimeyer]

No... I've pretty much avoided those. This WAS a Visual FoxPro app so
we're still at the stage where we really aren't "leveraging" MySQL
specific features. We're still pretty much just eliminating VFP
specific things.

Hence the one time nature of this renaming. Now that we're 5-10
customers in to upgrading we decided to actually define a naming
convention for the databases themselves so I've got to fix the 5-10
that are already out there (I could not change it... but then we have
to "remember" that these are special cases)

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Rolando
Edwards wrote:
> If you have stored procedures, don't forget to update the db column with the 
> new db in mysql.proc as that does not automatically change.
>
> Rolando A. Edwards
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> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Neimeyer [mailto:m...@neimeyer.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:27 AM
> To: Paul DuBois
> Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
> Subject: Re: Renaming a Database
>
>>> That said... Is there anything "wrong" (dangerous, disasterous, etc)
>>> with stopping the MySQL service and renaming the folder in the MySQL
>>> data folder? By my logic (if I'm right) this should preserve any
>>> permissions on the folder and since the service is stopped it should
>>> simply find the new instance.
>
>> If you have InnoDB tables, there will be a problem. InnoDB maintains the
>> database name in the shared tablespace, and it will no longer be able to
>> find those tables.
>
> Nope. These are entirely MyISAM tables... So I will probably give this
> a try then.
>
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RE: Renaming a Database

[Rolando Edwards]

If you have stored procedures, don't forget to update the db column with the 
new db in mysql.proc as that does not automatically change.

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-Original Message-
From: Matt Neimeyer [mailto:m...@neimeyer.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:27 AM
To: Paul DuBois
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Renaming a Database

>> That said... Is there anything "wrong" (dangerous, disasterous, etc)
>> with stopping the MySQL service and renaming the folder in the MySQL
>> data folder? By my logic (if I'm right) this should preserve any
>> permissions on the folder and since the service is stopped it should
>> simply find the new instance.

> If you have InnoDB tables, there will be a problem. InnoDB maintains the
> database name in the shared tablespace, and it will no longer be able to
> find those tables.

Nope. These are entirely MyISAM tables... So I will probably give this
a try then.

Matt

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Re: Renaming a Database

[Matt Neimeyer]

>> That said... Is there anything "wrong" (dangerous, disasterous, etc)
>> with stopping the MySQL service and renaming the folder in the MySQL
>> data folder? By my logic (if I'm right) this should preserve any
>> permissions on the folder and since the service is stopped it should
>> simply find the new instance.

> If you have InnoDB tables, there will be a problem. InnoDB maintains the
> database name in the shared tablespace, and it will no longer be able to
> find those tables.

Nope. These are entirely MyISAM tables... So I will probably give this
a try then.

Matt

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Re: Renaming a Database

[Paul DuBois]

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Matt Neimeyer wrote:


I know the "best" way to rename a database is to use mysqldump,
extract the database and then reload to the new database. (At least
based on what I can find in the "12.1.32. RENAME DATABASE Syntax"
section of the documentation)

That said... Is there anything "wrong" (dangerous, disasterous, etc)
with stopping the MySQL service and renaming the folder in the MySQL
data folder? By my logic (if I'm right) this should preserve any
permissions on the folder and since the service is stopped it should
simply find the new instance.



If you have InnoDB tables, there will be a problem. InnoDB maintains  
the database name in the shared tablespace, and it will no longer be  
able to find those tables.


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Re: renaming a database

[Gleb Paharenko]

Hello.



One possible solution is to create a new database, and then RENAME TABLE

each table from the original database into the new database. Then

drop the original database.





"Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,

> 

> Please tell me how to rename a database. I couldn't find this in the manual.

> I have tried to rename manually the name of the directory that holds that

> database, but some tables can't be accessed after that. (I have found that

> they are InnoDB tables, even though I never specified that I want this type

> of engine when creating the tables).

> 

> Thank you.

> 

> 

> Teddy

> 

> 

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Re: renaming a database

[Peter Brawley]

Octavian

>Please tell me how to rename a database. 

As you already found, there are database features that don't survive
renaming its directory. Best method I know is to mysqldump it and
recreate it
from the dump under the desired name.

PB
http://www.artfulsoftware.com

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Octavian Rasnita wrote:

  Hi,

Please tell me how to rename a database. I couldn't find this in the manual.
I have tried to rename manually the name of the directory that holds that
database, but some tables can't be accessed after that. (I have found that
they are InnoDB tables, even though I never specified that I want this type
of engine when creating the tables).

Thank you.


Teddy



  



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RE: Renaming a database

[Gordon Bruce]

A database in MySQL is simply a directory. 

 

So just rename the directory with appropriate tool for your platform. 

On my test box this becomes

 

mysql> show databases;

++

| Database  
|

++

| information_schema |

|
lois  
|

| mailprint  |

|
mysql 
|

|
test  
|

++

5 rows in set (0.22 sec)

 



 

mysql> show databases;

++

| Database  
|

++

| information_schema |

|
lois  
|

| mailprint  |

|
mysql 
|

|
test1 
|

++

5 rows in set (0.00 sec)

 

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hamm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:02 AM
To: 'Mysql '
Subject: Renaming a database

 

How do I rename a database? The help online is pretty ambigous.

 

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Re: Renaming a database

[SGreen]

Scott Hamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/18/2005 12:01:49 PM:

> How do I rename a database? The help online is pretty ambigous.
> 
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I wouldn't say "ambiguous". I would rather say "indirect". 

Renaming a database is nearly the same thing as moving tables to a new 
database. you can do that with RENAME TABLE 
(http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/rename-table.html).  The only thing to 
do is to migrate permissions from the old database to the new one (and any 
table-specific or column-specific permissions, too) by either performing a 
set of  GRANT and REVOKE statements or by updating the `mysql`.`db`, 
`mysql`.`tables_priv`,  and `mysql`.`columns_priv` tables manually and 
issuing a FLUSH PRIVILEGES statement to put your updates into effect.

Normally, the names of databases aren't as nearly as important or mutable 
as the names of the tables and columns within them. That's why there is no 
"simpler" method for renaming a database with MySQL.

One shortcut, just for MyISAM tables, might be to shut down the server, 
rename the folder for the database to the new name, then restart the 
server. This still leaves any permissions pointing to the "old" name and 
will not work for InnoDB and probably won't work for BDB databases but it 
could save you the trouble of scripting all of those RENAME TABLE 
statements.

Shawn Green
Database Administrator
Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine

Re: renaming a database

[Nathan]

This may already be implemented, but the MySQL Technical Reference for Version 3.23.41 
states:

1.6.2 Things that must be done in the real near future:
- Implement RENAME DATABASE. To make this safe for all table handlers, it should work 
as follows:
  - Create the new database.
  - For every table do a rename of the table to another database, as we do with the 
RENAME command.
  - Drop the old database.


Of course, you should be able to simply rename the folder that contains your 
tables you could
script it if you had to, either in Perl or a Win32 batch file, depending on your 
system.

# Nathan


- Original Message -
From: "JC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: renaming a database


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I'm kind of interested to find if there is a way to rename a database
with something like the alter command.
Looking in the index of the New Riders MySQL book I don't see
anything other than renaming tables
Looking through the Manual for  version 3 Nothing shows up
Looking at the mailing list archieve I don't see anything either

I'm running 3.23.46-nt running on windows 2000 advanced server as a
service.

I'm thinking that the only way around this would be to do a mysqldump
for that database and then creating a new database with the desired
name and importing the contents of the dump file.

I'd like to be able to just rename the database from the command line
just like you would a table.

Thanks in advance,

JC

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Re: renaming a database

[Paul DuBois]

At 11:10 -0800 1/30/02, JC wrote:
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>
>I'm kind of interested to find if there is a way to rename a database
>with something like the alter command.
>Looking in the index of the New Riders MySQL book I don't see
>anything other than renaming tables
>Looking through the Manual for  version 3 Nothing shows up
>Looking at the mailing list archieve I don't see anything either
>
>I'm running 3.23.46-nt running on windows 2000 advanced server as a
>service.
>
>I'm thinking that the only way around this would be to do a mysqldump
>for that database and then creating a new database with the desired
>name and importing the contents of the dump file.
>
>I'd like to be able to just rename the database from the command line
>just like you would a table.

If your database doesn't contain InnoDB tables, you can try this:

- Shut down the MySQL server
- Rename the database directory
- Restart the MySQL server

But remember that if you have entries in the grant tables that pertain
specifically to that database, you'll need to update them to use the
new database name.

>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>JC


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RE: renaming a database

[Heikki Tuuri]

Hi!

>> Can you rename a database?  If so, how does it handle all the 
>> tables inside it?  
>
>By shutting down the server, renaming the directory
>of that database and restarting the server.
>
>The server will be able to handle the change just fine.

Sorry, but InnoDB tables do not get renamed inside the internal data
dictionary of InnoDB this way. For them currently the way is, for exapmle,
to create the tables to the new database and use INSERT INTO
new_database.table1 SELECT * FROM old_database.table1.

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RE: renaming a database

[Carsten H. Pedersen]

> Can you rename a database?  If so, how does it handle all the 
> tables inside it?  

By shutting down the server, renaming the directory
of that database and restarting the server.

The server will be able to handle the change just fine.

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