Re: Re-creating tables

2008-02-25 Thread mos

At 05:16 PM 2/24/2008, Waynn Lue wrote:

That's actually why I'm dropping/recreating, because I thought the
changes I have to make require multiple statements.  Let me know if
that's a wrong assumption, here's what I have to do.

1.  drop two foreign keys from Users to Actions (in the previous
example I gave).
2.  expand INT to BIGINT on Users
3.  expand INT to BIGINT on Actions
4.  recreate two foreign keys from Users to Actions.

That's four alter statements, which each require making temporary
table copies, so I assumed dropping/recreating was faster.


Each of your Alter statements will mean a temp table is created, the data 
is moved over, the changes are made, and the indexes are rebuilt.
It will be 4x faster if you do it all in one Alter statement. Since the 
alter statement will rebuild the keys at the end, is there really a need to 
to drop the foreign keys or is this an InnoDb quirk?


Try something like:

alter table MyTable change column Users Users BigInt, change column Actions 
Actions BigInt;


You normally would drop indexes to speed things up when loading a lot of 
data into the table, then rebuild the indexes after the data has been 
loaded. But since Alter table does this anyways, you're not accomplishing 
anything by doing it manually.


Mike



On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:42 PM, mos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 05:55 AM 2/23/2008, Waynn Lue wrote:
  I have three or four different ALTER TABLE commands I need to run on a
  9 million row table (related to the previous email I sent).  I've
  tried running it before and it just takes way too long, so I was
  thinking the fastest way to get this done is to create new tables with
  the final schema, then drop the old tables and rename the new ones.
  
  There are a few ways to go about this.
  
  1. Stop the reads/writes to the db.  Use mysqldump, truncate the
  tables, drop the tables, recreate with the correct schema, then import
  it again.
  2. Create a new temporary table, keep the reads and writes going,
  SELECT into that new table, when it catches up, turn off the
  reads/writes for a short period of time while I truncate/drop then
  rename the temporary table.
  3. Use replication somehow to go from the old table to the new table
  (can I do that?).
  4. Create a new temporary table, stop reads/writes to it, then do an
  INSERT INTO SELECT from the old to new table.
  
  One slight problem with choice 2 is that I don't know how to make sure
  that I know when the reads/writes are done.  Not all the tables have
  an auto-increment id, so I can't just keep inserting in random ids.
  As an aside, if I do INSERT INTO SELECT, does it block any operations
  on the table that I'm SELECTing from?
  
  Thanks for any insights,
  Waynn

  Waynn,
  Why are you using 3 or 4 alter table commands on the same table? Each
  command means it will create a copy of the table, makes the changes to
  that, then it renames it to the correct table name and deletes the old
  table name. You should be able to add all 4 alter table commands in 1 
Alter

  Table statement, just by putting a , between the alter specifications.
  See the syntax in the manual:
  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/alter-table.html This means the
  table gets rebuilt only once and not 4 times!

  Mike

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Re: Re-creating tables

2008-02-25 Thread Waynn Lue
The problem here though is that there is no MyTable.  There are two
separate tables, Users and Actions, and I can't alter both of them in
the same statement, as far as I know.  As a result, when I alter just
Users, that fails because there's an FK between Users and Actions and
the type of the two columns is now different.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:50 AM, mos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 05:16 PM 2/24/2008, Waynn Lue wrote:
  That's actually why I'm dropping/recreating, because I thought the
  changes I have to make require multiple statements.  Let me know if
  that's a wrong assumption, here's what I have to do.
  
  1.  drop two foreign keys from Users to Actions (in the previous
  example I gave).
  2.  expand INT to BIGINT on Users
  3.  expand INT to BIGINT on Actions
  4.  recreate two foreign keys from Users to Actions.
  
  That's four alter statements, which each require making temporary
  table copies, so I assumed dropping/recreating was faster.

  Each of your Alter statements will mean a temp table is created, the data
  is moved over, the changes are made, and the indexes are rebuilt.
  It will be 4x faster if you do it all in one Alter statement. Since the
  alter statement will rebuild the keys at the end, is there really a need to
  to drop the foreign keys or is this an InnoDb quirk?

  Try something like:

  alter table MyTable change column Users Users BigInt, change column Actions
  Actions BigInt;

  You normally would drop indexes to speed things up when loading a lot of
  data into the table, then rebuild the indexes after the data has been
  loaded. But since Alter table does this anyways, you're not accomplishing
  anything by doing it manually.

  Mike




  On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:42 PM, mos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
At 05:55 AM 2/23/2008, Waynn Lue wrote:
 I have three or four different ALTER TABLE commands I need to run on a
 9 million row table (related to the previous email I sent).  I've
 tried running it before and it just takes way too long, so I was
 thinking the fastest way to get this done is to create new tables with
 the final schema, then drop the old tables and rename the new ones.
 
 There are a few ways to go about this.
 
 1. Stop the reads/writes to the db.  Use mysqldump, truncate the
 tables, drop the tables, recreate with the correct schema, then import
 it again.
 2. Create a new temporary table, keep the reads and writes going,
 SELECT into that new table, when it catches up, turn off the
 reads/writes for a short period of time while I truncate/drop then
 rename the temporary table.
 3. Use replication somehow to go from the old table to the new table
 (can I do that?).
 4. Create a new temporary table, stop reads/writes to it, then do an
 INSERT INTO SELECT from the old to new table.
 
 One slight problem with choice 2 is that I don't know how to make sure
 that I know when the reads/writes are done.  Not all the tables have
 an auto-increment id, so I can't just keep inserting in random ids.
 As an aside, if I do INSERT INTO SELECT, does it block any operations
 on the table that I'm SELECTing from?
 
 Thanks for any insights,
 Waynn
   
 Waynn,
 Why are you using 3 or 4 alter table commands on the same table? 
 Each
 command means it will create a copy of the table, makes the changes to
 that, then it renames it to the correct table name and deletes the old
 table name. You should be able to add all 4 alter table commands in 1
   Alter
 Table statement, just by putting a , between the alter specifications.
 See the syntax in the manual:
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/alter-table.html This means the
 table gets rebuilt only once and not 4 times!
   
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Re: Re-creating tables

2008-02-24 Thread Waynn Lue
That's actually why I'm dropping/recreating, because I thought the
changes I have to make require multiple statements.  Let me know if
that's a wrong assumption, here's what I have to do.

1.  drop two foreign keys from Users to Actions (in the previous
example I gave).
2.  expand INT to BIGINT on Users
3.  expand INT to BIGINT on Actions
4.  recreate two foreign keys from Users to Actions.

That's four alter statements, which each require making temporary
table copies, so I assumed dropping/recreating was faster.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:42 PM, mos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 05:55 AM 2/23/2008, Waynn Lue wrote:
  I have three or four different ALTER TABLE commands I need to run on a
  9 million row table (related to the previous email I sent).  I've
  tried running it before and it just takes way too long, so I was
  thinking the fastest way to get this done is to create new tables with
  the final schema, then drop the old tables and rename the new ones.
  
  There are a few ways to go about this.
  
  1. Stop the reads/writes to the db.  Use mysqldump, truncate the
  tables, drop the tables, recreate with the correct schema, then import
  it again.
  2. Create a new temporary table, keep the reads and writes going,
  SELECT into that new table, when it catches up, turn off the
  reads/writes for a short period of time while I truncate/drop then
  rename the temporary table.
  3. Use replication somehow to go from the old table to the new table
  (can I do that?).
  4. Create a new temporary table, stop reads/writes to it, then do an
  INSERT INTO SELECT from the old to new table.
  
  One slight problem with choice 2 is that I don't know how to make sure
  that I know when the reads/writes are done.  Not all the tables have
  an auto-increment id, so I can't just keep inserting in random ids.
  As an aside, if I do INSERT INTO SELECT, does it block any operations
  on the table that I'm SELECTing from?
  
  Thanks for any insights,
  Waynn

  Waynn,
  Why are you using 3 or 4 alter table commands on the same table? Each
  command means it will create a copy of the table, makes the changes to
  that, then it renames it to the correct table name and deletes the old
  table name. You should be able to add all 4 alter table commands in 1 Alter
  Table statement, just by putting a , between the alter specifications.
  See the syntax in the manual:
  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/alter-table.html This means the
  table gets rebuilt only once and not 4 times!

  Mike

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Re-creating tables

2008-02-23 Thread Waynn Lue
I have three or four different ALTER TABLE commands I need to run on a
9 million row table (related to the previous email I sent).  I've
tried running it before and it just takes way too long, so I was
thinking the fastest way to get this done is to create new tables with
the final schema, then drop the old tables and rename the new ones.

There are a few ways to go about this.

1. Stop the reads/writes to the db.  Use mysqldump, truncate the
tables, drop the tables, recreate with the correct schema, then import
it again.
2. Create a new temporary table, keep the reads and writes going,
SELECT into that new table, when it catches up, turn off the
reads/writes for a short period of time while I truncate/drop then
rename the temporary table.
3. Use replication somehow to go from the old table to the new table
(can I do that?).
4. Create a new temporary table, stop reads/writes to it, then do an
INSERT INTO SELECT from the old to new table.

One slight problem with choice 2 is that I don't know how to make sure
that I know when the reads/writes are done.  Not all the tables have
an auto-increment id, so I can't just keep inserting in random ids.
As an aside, if I do INSERT INTO SELECT, does it block any operations
on the table that I'm SELECTing from?

Thanks for any insights,
Waynn

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Re: Re-creating tables

2008-02-23 Thread mos

At 05:55 AM 2/23/2008, Waynn Lue wrote:

I have three or four different ALTER TABLE commands I need to run on a
9 million row table (related to the previous email I sent).  I've
tried running it before and it just takes way too long, so I was
thinking the fastest way to get this done is to create new tables with
the final schema, then drop the old tables and rename the new ones.

There are a few ways to go about this.

1. Stop the reads/writes to the db.  Use mysqldump, truncate the
tables, drop the tables, recreate with the correct schema, then import
it again.
2. Create a new temporary table, keep the reads and writes going,
SELECT into that new table, when it catches up, turn off the
reads/writes for a short period of time while I truncate/drop then
rename the temporary table.
3. Use replication somehow to go from the old table to the new table
(can I do that?).
4. Create a new temporary table, stop reads/writes to it, then do an
INSERT INTO SELECT from the old to new table.

One slight problem with choice 2 is that I don't know how to make sure
that I know when the reads/writes are done.  Not all the tables have
an auto-increment id, so I can't just keep inserting in random ids.
As an aside, if I do INSERT INTO SELECT, does it block any operations
on the table that I'm SELECTing from?

Thanks for any insights,
Waynn


Waynn,
Why are you using 3 or 4 alter table commands on the same table? Each 
command means it will create a copy of the table, makes the changes to 
that, then it renames it to the correct table name and deletes the old 
table name. You should be able to add all 4 alter table commands in 1 Alter 
Table statement, just by putting a , between the alter specifications. 
See the syntax in the manual: 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/alter-table.html This means the 
table gets rebuilt only once and not 4 times!


Mike 


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Re: Creating Tables/Keys from PowerDesigner Sql

2002-06-14 Thread Francisco Reinaldo

Well, that would depend if the SQL script generated by
your designer is compatible with MySQL, some type
names may be different.

Good Luck!
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 to import into mySql to create my tables, keys, etc.
  How do I accomplish
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Re: Creating tables in mysql

2002-03-15 Thread Uma Shankari T.


Hello,

   Now i am struck up with one problem...When i am trying to create a
table in the mysql database it is giving this error...Can anyone plese
help me how to rectify this problem..

ERROR 1: Can't create/write to file './dbase/rr.frm' (Errcode: 13)

My mysql database name is dbase and my table name is rr


-Uma



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Re: creating tables using a number

2001-09-14 Thread Adams, Bill TQO

powlow wrote:

 first posting to the list so hello. My name is Paulo. I live and work in
 lisbon, portugal.

 question : i want to create a table each month. want to call it somehting
 like 012001 for January 2001. mysql does not seem to allow this. Jan2001 is
 fine. d122001 is also fine. is it not possible to create tables with only a
 number as the name? is there a way round this?

Most RDBMS do not allow columns or tables to start with a number.  I know that
does not help your situation but it is not unusual.

Also, why don't you put a prefix on the table name that indicates what it is
going to hold?  Another developer that sees a table called '012001' is not
going to know what the heck the table is.  But a name like 'custorders_200101'
is more informative and gets around your problem.

(I would always name dates in the order of year, month, day.  Then you can
sort and compare them with ease in just about any language .)

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Re: creating tables using a number

2001-09-14 Thread Paul DuBois

At 6:39 PM +0100 9/14/01, powlow wrote:
Hi,

first posting to the list so hello. My name is Paulo. I live and work in
lisbon, portugal.

question : i want to create a table each month. want to call it somehting
like 012001 for January 2001. mysql does not seem to allow this. Jan2001 is
fine. d122001 is also fine. is it not possible to create tables with only a
number as the name? is there a way round this?

Yes, it's possible, but it's a bad idea:
- numbers are hard to recognize as names
- you'll have to use a special syntax *every* time you refer to the
   table

Anyway, if you want to do this, you must enclose the name in backquotes:

CREATE TABLE `1` (i INT);

DROP TABLE `1`;

If I were you, I'd just prefix the numbers with a character, e.g.,
t012001, t022001, etc.


2 days of work wasted here!!

thanks for any help

-paulo


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Re: creating tables using a number THIS IS A BUG

2001-09-14 Thread Igbar Foosenhopper

FYI ..

I just tried this my self with

CREATE TABLE 010823 (tstamp TIMESTAMP (14)  ,
   name VARCHAR (10)  not null  , PRIMARY KEY (tstamp), INDEX (name))

   and got ...

MySQL said: You have an error in your SQL syntax near '010823 (tstamp TIMESTAMP (14) , 
name VARCHAR (10) not null , PRIMARY KEY (tst' at line 1


The manual specificaly states in section 7.1.5  ...

Table  Any character that is allowed in a file name, except `/' or `.'.

SO this does seem like a bug .. hope MySql guys see this.  I have
looked but can't find anything about how to contact in case of bugs ..



Friday, September 14, 2001, 10:39:35 AM, you wrote:

p Hi,

p first posting to the list so hello. My name is Paulo. I live and work in
p lisbon, portugal.

p question : i want to create a table each month. want to call it somehting
p like 012001 for January 2001. mysql does not seem to allow this. Jan2001 is
p fine. d122001 is also fine. is it not possible to create tables with only a
p number as the name? is there a way round this?


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Re: creating tables using a number THIS IS A BUG

2001-09-14 Thread indrek siitan

Hi,

 SO this does seem like a bug .. hope MySql guys see this.  I have
 looked but can't find anything about how to contact in case of bugs ..

mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  :-)


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Re: creating tables using a number

2001-09-14 Thread Andreas Karl Wittwer

Hello,

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, powlow wrote:

  fine. d122001 is also fine. is it not possible to create tables with only a
  number as the name? is there a way round this?

 mysql CREATE TABLE `123` (id INT);
 Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

 mysql show tables;
 ++
 | Tables_in_test |
 ++
 | 123|


  2 days of work wasted here!!

2 minutes to test all kin of quotes :-)


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Re: creating tables using a number THIS IS A BUG

2001-09-14 Thread Paul DuBois

At 11:17 AM -0700 9/14/01, Igbar Foosenhopper wrote:
FYI ..

I just tried this my self with

CREATE TABLE 010823 (tstamp TIMESTAMP (14)  ,
name VARCHAR (10)  not null  , PRIMARY KEY (tstamp), INDEX (name))

and got ...

MySQL said: You have an error in your SQL syntax near '010823 
(tstamp TIMESTAMP (14) , name VARCHAR (10) not null , PRIMARY KEY 
(tst' at line 1


The manual specificaly states in section 7.1.5  ...

Table  Any character that is allowed in a file name, except `/' or `.'.

SO this does seem like a bug .. hope MySql guys see this.  I have
looked but can't find anything about how to contact in case of bugs ..


If you had read two more paragraphs, you would see:

Note that if the identifier is a restricted word or contains special
characters you must always quote it with ` when you use it:

SELECT * from `select` where `select`.id  100;



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Re: creating tables using a number THIS IS A BUG

2001-09-14 Thread Matt Wagner

indrek siitan writes:
 Hi,
 
  SO this does seem like a bug .. hope MySql guys see this.  I have
  looked but can't find anything about how to contact in case of bugs ..
 
 mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  :-)

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RE: creating tables from the shell

2001-02-06 Thread Quentin Bennett

Hi,

mysql -vvv samp_db  create_member.sql

should tell what commands mysql is executing.

Regards

Quentin

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Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: creating tables from the shell


Hey -

sorry for being too much of a pinhead to figure this out, but the 
server is really not giving me too many clues to work with.

I'm trying to execute commands from the shell to create new tables 
(I'm walking through the new riders book).

the book says % mysql samp_db  create_member.sql

for me, for whatever reason, mysql will not execute except from its 
root directory.  so I'm doing
% ./bin/mysql samp_db  ./var/mysql/create_member.sql
(the book also doesn't tell you where to put the executible scripts, 
so I stuck them in the data directory)

can anyone tell me why this isn't working?  it seems to execute (no 
error), but nothing happens.   Also, can anyone tell me if there is a 
way to get the server to tell you a little more about why things 
don't work?  I could use some help debugging, and the log entries are 
pithy, to say the least.

thanks in advance-

MT

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RE: creating tables from the shell

2001-02-06 Thread Michael Tuminello

Thanks for the responses.  Both those comments will no doubt help me 
out next time.   this time around, pathetically enough, it was bad 
line breaks due to the fact I decompressed it on a mac and then 
uploaded it.

how embarasskin.

MT


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