RE: Tergat MySQL Studio
So basically, if you already own Mascon (or buy it from http://www.scibit.com/ for $49.00), and download the latest installable binary releases of MySQL, Apache, etc, you've got the MySQL Studio, and as a bonus, it features a clean, standard UI, with the standard Windows style widgets. Ah, this is good to know. I wasn't interested in the binary installers or the Apache/MySQL since I build those myself. But I keep hoping for an enterprise level tool that works with MySQL. ER Studio and other packages really simplify my life with SQL Server, so I am greedy and want the same kind of design and management tools for MySQL :) c -- Chris Lott http://www.chrislott.org/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Tergat MySQL Studio
Unfortunately Mascon doesn't have any ER diagramming tools for schema modeling. I bought Heraut Solutions' Dezign for Databases for this purpose a while back, but its somewhat clunky, unprofessional look/feel has been a bit of a turn off. I've enjoyed using Sybase' Powerdesigner for this purpose, it works pretty well. I only wish it supported MySQL in a more integrated, native fashion. I haven't had the pleasure of using Erwin, but I understand it's a good tool. Any other recommendations for ER modeling? -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:39 PM To: MySQL List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Tergat MySQL Studio So basically, if you already own Mascon (or buy it from http://www.scibit.com/ for $49.00), and download the latest installable binary releases of MySQL, Apache, etc, you've got the MySQL Studio, and as a bonus, it features a clean, standard UI, with the standard Windows style widgets. Ah, this is good to know. I wasn't interested in the binary installers or the Apache/MySQL since I build those myself. But I keep hoping for an enterprise level tool that works with MySQL. ER Studio and other packages really simplify my life with SQL Server, so I am greedy and want the same kind of design and management tools for MySQL :) c -- Chris Lott http://www.chrislott.org/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Tergat MySQL Studio
You may want to try... http://www.codebydesign.com/DataArchitect Its not perfect but its quite useful. Inspired by PowerDesigner. Peter On Friday 18 January 2002 12:09, Alok K. Dhir wrote: Unfortunately Mascon doesn't have any ER diagramming tools for schema modeling. I bought Heraut Solutions' Dezign for Databases for this purpose a while back, but its somewhat clunky, unprofessional look/feel has been a bit of a turn off. I've enjoyed using Sybase' Powerdesigner for this purpose, it works pretty well. I only wish it supported MySQL in a more integrated, native fashion. I haven't had the pleasure of using Erwin, but I understand it's a good tool. Any other recommendations for ER modeling? -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:39 PM To: MySQL List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Tergat MySQL Studio So basically, if you already own Mascon (or buy it from http://www.scibit.com/ for $49.00), and download the latest installable binary releases of MySQL, Apache, etc, you've got the MySQL Studio, and as a bonus, it features a clean, standard UI, with the standard Windows style widgets. Ah, this is good to know. I wasn't interested in the binary installers or the Apache/MySQL since I build those myself. But I keep hoping for an enterprise level tool that works with MySQL. ER Studio and other packages really simplify my life with SQL Server, so I am greedy and want the same kind of design and management tools for MySQL :) c -- Chris Lott http://www.chrislott.org/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Tergat MySQL Studio
Now there seems to be some kind of evaluation version available: http://www.mysqlstudio.com/shareware.php3 Just downloaded and at least it looks pretty creamy with the latest XP style widgets... I guess this is the more commercial direction MySQL might take. Like what Covalent is doing with apache. Guess its ok. Somebody always pays... cheers, dutch From: Chris Lott Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:41:00 -0900 Has anyone had a chance to try out the new MySQL Studio product (http://www.mysqlstudio.com/feature.php3)? There doesn't appear to be any kind of demo, ad while it is only $70, I figured I'd check with all of you before trying it. What I would really like is something akin to ER Studio and other Embarcadero products I use for SQL Server that would work with (or also with) MySQL! Sure makes dealing with massively complex relationships and structures more convenient, either with InnoDB or with forthcoming MySQL 4.1 ... c -- Chris Lott -- http://www.chrislott.org/ _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Tergat MySQL Studio
Now there seems to be some kind of evaluation version available: http://www.mysqlstudio.com/shareware.php3 Just downloaded and at least it looks pretty creamy with the latest XP style widgets... I guess this is the more commercial direction MySQL might take. Like what Covalent is doing with apache. Guess its ok. Somebody always pays... cheers, dutch From: Chris Lott Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:41:00 -0900 Has anyone had a chance to try out the new MySQL Studio product (http://www.mysqlstudio.com/feature.php3)? There doesn't appear to be any kind of demo, ad while it is only $70, I figured I'd check with all of you before trying it. What I would really like is something akin to ER Studio and other Embarcadero products I use for SQL Server that would work with (or also with) MySQL! Sure makes dealing with massively complex relationships and structures more convenient, either with InnoDB or with forthcoming MySQL 4.1 ... c -- Chris Lott -- http://www.chrislott.org/ _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php This message was posted using eunum --- http://www.cn.eunum.com/ To interact with a real-time, threaded interface to this e-mail list, go visit the link MySQL below: http://www.cn.eunum.com/homestead/92.html . - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Tergat MySQL Studio
And can you turn those off and get normal widgets that respect user system settings? XP style for me is a reason to not even look! At 11:07 2002-01-17, you wrote: Just downloaded and at least it looks pretty creamy with the latest XP style widgets... G: database,sql,query,table -- Marjolein Katsma HomeSite Help - http://hshelp.com/ - Extensions, Tips and Tools The Bookstore - http://books.hshelp.com/ - Books for webmasters and webrookies - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Tergat MySQL Studio
Nope. Looks like you're stuck with their creamy look. In fact, it doesn't really use XP widgets - it uses it's own widget set/skin which looks more like an MP3 player than a db admin tool. Incidentally, their database admin tool, called Navicat, looks awfully familiar... It's basically just a rebranded/reskinned version of SciBit's Mascon. The rest of the MySQL Studio consists of stock, installable versions of MySQL Max, Apache, PHP and MyODBC. So basically, if you already own Mascon (or buy it from http://www.scibit.com/ for $49.00), and download the latest installable binary releases of MySQL, Apache, etc, you've got the MySQL Studio, and as a bonus, it features a clean, standard UI, with the standard Windows style widgets. Al P.S. For those who haven't used Mascon, I highly recommend it. It's a terrific tool for managing MySQL databases -Original Message- From: Marjolein Katsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:16 AM To: MySQL Subject: Re: Tergat MySQL Studio And can you turn those off and get normal widgets that respect user system settings? XP style for me is a reason to not even look! At 11:07 2002-01-17, you wrote: Just downloaded and at least it looks pretty creamy with the latest XP style widgets... G: database,sql,query,table -- Marjolein Katsma HomeSite Help - http://hshelp.com/ - Extensions, Tips and Tools The Bookstore - http://books.hshelp.com/ - Books for webmasters and webrookies - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Tergat MySQL Studio
On Thursday 17 Jan 2002 7:16 pm, Alok K. Dhir wrote: P.S. For those who haven't used Mascon, I highly recommend it. It's a terrific tool for managing MySQL databases the only thing I would say against it, is that it's a client not a server, and a larger organisation that needs to change passwords has a small problem with informing every user. (I've had similar problems myself when disgruntled employees have left). - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Tergat MySQL Studio
looks more like an MP3 player than a db admin tool. Which is not necessary a bad thing :) I guess the main reason why linux is not growing its user base on desktops is the awful design of the UI of all basic apps. In addition to the lack of compatibility to M$ tools.. Incidentally, their database admin tool, called Navicat, looks awfully familiar... It's basically just a rebranded/reskinned version of SciBit's Mascon. The rest of the MySQL Studio consists of stock, installable versions of MySQL Max, Apache, PHP and MyODBC. You're right. There seems to be actually an additional launcher for MySQL server, some extra manuals and a hate-me nag-screen in the admin. There is also Mac release, which looks quite different: http://www.mysqlstudio.com/mac_detail.php3. Has anyone tried that yet? cheers, dutch _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Tergat MySQL Studio
Has anyone had a chance to try out the new MySQL Studio product (http://www.mysqlstudio.com/feature.php3)? There doesn't appear to be any kind of demo, ad while it is only $70, I figured I'd check with all of you before trying it. What I would really like is something akin to ER Studio and other Embarcadero products I use for SQL Server that would work with (or also with) MySQL! Sure makes dealing with massively complex relationships and structures more convenient, either with InnoDB or with forthcoming MySQL 4.1 ... c -- Chris Lott -- http://www.chrislott.org/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
