Re: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Joe Votour]

Actually, this would be a nice feature, but I'm not
willing to code it, so I can live without.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There are
some people (myself included) who happen to use the
LiveTV feature.  Or, alternatively, I'll start
recording a show, but them in skipping commercials, I
catch up with the live feed.

Can't skip commercials to get to content that hasn't
aired yet.

-- Joe

--- Scott Alfter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 06:02:37PM -0700, Karsten
> Jeppesen wrote:
> > There is a very very important thing missing in
> MythTV.
> > At least I have been missing this feature on every
> single TV I have had:
> > 
> > A
>
volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running
> button.
> > 
> > Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while
> the commercials are on?
> 
> Commercials?  What are those? :-) Whether using a
> VCR, TiVo, or MythTV, I
> haven't wasted time on commercials in over 12 years.
>  Instead of watching
> them, why aren't you skipping them?
> 
>   _/_
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> mail)
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[mythtv-users] Re: $80 Air2PC cards (Rev 0.2?)

[Blammo]

> On 5/17/05, Blammo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3761&item=5195966400&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
> 
> I went ahead and bought one. I'll let ya'll know how/if it works. I
> emailed back and forth with the vendor who agreed to take it back and
> refund me if it doesn't co-exist peacefully with my existing setup.

Just wanted to follow this up. Vendor was extremely easy to work with,
very knowlegable (you'll see why if you order one) and shipped one out
the door quickyl.

. Rev1 cards have a different "frontend" (Broadcom 3510) which has
only been supported in the last 7-ish days. Once you get it compiled
into the kernel, everything gets happy.

Worth the money, imho.

One Caveat, if you have signal strength problems now, you may not want
to get one of these... they are a little weaker on the RCV side than
the Gen2 cards.
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Re: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Scott Alfter]

On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 06:02:37PM -0700, Karsten Jeppesen wrote:
> There is a very very important thing missing in MythTV.
> At least I have been missing this feature on every single TV I have had:
> 
> A volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running button.
> 
> Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while the commercials are on?

Commercials?  What are those? :-) Whether using a VCR, TiVo, or MythTV, I
haven't wasted time on commercials in over 12 years.  Instead of watching
them, why aren't you skipping them?

  _/_
 / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
(IIGS( http://alfter.us/Top-posting!
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[mythtv-users] Myth won't connect FC3

[ed]

Any suggestions folks.  Been driving me buggy for weeks now.

ed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ mythtvsetup
2005-05-25 22:30:17.505 New DB connection, total: 1
Total desktop width=1280, height=1024, numscreens=1
2005-05-25 22:30:17.577 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0
2005-05-25 22:30:17.722 Switching to square mode (blue)
mythtv: could not connect to socket
mythtv: Connection refused
lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages
2005-05-25 22:30:20.005 Joystick disabled.
Couldn't open /dev/video0 to probe its inputs.
If this is the master backend server:
Now, please run 'mythfilldatabase' to populate the database
with channel information.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ mythbackend &
[1] 4935
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 2005-05-25 22:31:54.560 New DB connection, total: 1
Starting up as the master server.
2005-05-25 22:31:54.697 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-05-25 22:31:54.759 Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device,
error "No such file or directory"
2005-05-25 22:31:54.765 Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device,
error "No such file or directory"
2005-05-25 22:31:54.771 ChannelBase: Could not find input: Tuner 0 on card
whensetting channel 3

2005-05-25 22:31:54.831 New DB scheduler connection
cable is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput.
2005-05-25 22:31:54.897 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-05-25 22:31:54.899 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket
Failed to bind port: 6543
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
[1]+  Exit 6  mythbackend


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RE: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Jason Rhodes]

Car stereos have this now because of phones etc..there used to be
buttons called LOUD on some devices

A button that went;

Set current volume to a variable  (originalVOL)
If Vol !='30' set current volume to '30' else set current volume to
'originalVOL'

For all the people that missed the exact concept 

-Original Message-
From: Karsten Jeppesen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2005 2:58 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.



Tom Hines wrote:

>What are you doing watching commercials?
>  
>
Duh - I may not have explained this well enough.
See - I use MythTv as a TV as well. Unfortunately Myth can not
retroactively record a channel. So when you flip to a channel and - hey
there is a good movie - then there is no 5 minutes to fast forward. So
when the commercials come on with their +15% volume then it would be
nice to tone them that far down that you can barely hear them.
NOT MUTE.
Why would I watch the screen, when I can go making coffee, find the book
for later  whatever. I do have ears too and they will tell me when the
commercial segment is over. I realize I could pause and then come back
after 30 mins, but what would I do for 30 mins? I mean except for
reading and answering emails?
Watching TV has a social function as well when you are married. OOh -
thats what I could use the 30 mins for - hmm.
Anyway - I still think a preset volume - back to normal volume would be
a nice thing.

Karsten

>On 5/25/05, Karsten Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>There is a very very important thing missing in MythTV.
>>At least I have been missing this feature on every single TV I have
had:
>>
>>A volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running button.
>>
>>Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while the commercials are
on?
>>I would like a switch button that is programmable so I can press it 
>>and temporarily lower the volumen to X% of what it was before.
>>When the button is pressed again we resume at the previously used
volume.
>>
>>
>>Karsten
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[mythtv-users] nuvola theme release 0.2

[pmb]

Back by popular demand, Nuvola Theme 0.2. Not much has changed except 
for a few icons and the font which look a lot nicer than the old ones.

Download it at http://www.umich2.com

Let me know if you have any problems or suggestions.
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Re: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Karsten Jeppesen]

Tom Hines wrote:


What are you doing watching commercials?
 


Duh - I may not have explained this well enough.
See - I use MythTv as a TV as well. Unfortunately Myth can not 
retroactively record a channel. So when you flip to a channel and - hey 
there is a good movie - then there is no 5 minutes to fast forward. So 
when the commercials come on with their +15% volume then it would be 
nice to tone them that far down that you can barely hear them.

NOT MUTE.
Why would I watch the screen, when I can go making coffee, find the book 
for later  whatever. I do have ears too and they will tell me when the 
commercial segment is over. I realize I could pause and then come back 
after 30 mins, but what would I do for 30 mins? I mean except for 
reading and answering emails?
Watching TV has a social function as well when you are married. OOh - 
thats what I could use the 30 mins for - hmm.
Anyway - I still think a preset volume - back to normal volume would be 
a nice thing.


Karsten


On 5/25/05, Karsten Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


There is a very very important thing missing in MythTV.
At least I have been missing this feature on every single TV I have had:

A volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running button.

Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while the commercials are on?
I would like a switch button that is programmable so I can press it and
temporarily lower the volumen to X% of what it was before.
When the button is pressed again we resume at the previously used volume.


Karsten

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Michael T. Dean]

Kyle Rose wrote:


LOL.  There are actually three (somewhat tongue-in-cheek), and I
accidentally combined the second and third in my statement:

1. Cable quality doesn't matter when the data flowing over it is digital.
 


http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html

See the section, "The Role of Cable and Connection Quality"--it doesn't 
dispute your claim (especially considering the "somewhat 
tongue-in-cheek" nature of the claim), but does help dispel the common 
misconception that digital = perfect transmission.


BTW, the whole article is well worth the read...

Mike

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Re: [mythtv-users] High level system architecture questions

[Michael T. Dean]

Ben Bargabus wrote:


Also--and probably more importantly--you lose much of the benefit of DVD.
   


This relates to another question I have.  With a DTV receiver connected to the 
backend is the output decoded by the receiver, encoded by the PVR-250, sent 
across the network, and decoded by the PVR-350 in the frontend?

Basically, yes.  However, any machine with a PVR-350 should be used as a 
frontent/backend combo (since it has a tuner card and TV out).  However, 
with your stated goal of keeping all the satellite receivers in one 
server room connected to dedicated backends, it doesn't make sense for 
you to use PVR-350's.  Buy PVR-250's (or PVR-150/PVR-500's once you get 
comfortable with IvyTV--since they're newer and not as well supported at 
this time) and get a good video card.  That way, you get OpenGL support 
for good Goom.  (One of the visualizations in MythMusic--and, with my 
pitiful collection of music, the only reason to use MythMusic. :)



Is this the only solution if the receiver is connected at the backend 
(obviously the specific hardware could change but I'm talking about the decode, 
encode, decode sequence)?

Yes.  (Unless your receiver does digital output via firewire, then 
there's only one decode.)



I'm well versed in computers but not very well in video so please excuse my 
ignorance for a moment, is this because the output from the receiver is analog?


Yes.


(if it were digital it seems that it would be much easier to just divvy it up 
into packets and send it on its way)

Yes.  But TV has been analog since it's inception, so most standard 
definition receivers output in analog.  Now that we're moving to digital 
TV (at least here in the US), the MPAA doesn't want you to be able to do 
this, so we now have things like the broadcast flag, HDCP, HDMI, CPRM, 
and D-VHS to stop all of us thieves (except, of course, the 
insiders--like the one who released Star Wars, Episode 3, The Revenge of 
the Sith onto the internet 6 hours before it opened in theaters ;).  
With some receivers, you can pull a digital signal (generally MPEG-2 
video) via firewire, but that's a whole different question...



Even if analog why not just a good ADC on one end and DAC on the other?  Is 
this a bandwidth/storage-capacity issue (and thus really relying on the 
compression of MPEG)?
 

Yes.  MPEG-2 compression allows the recording of TV at pretty good 
quality at about 1.25GiB/hr (3 Mb/sec) including audio.  However, many 
people use higher bitrates for "better" quality, but DVD--which also 
uses MPEG-2--maxes out at about 4.25GiB/hr (10.08Mb/sec according to the 
spec) including video, audio, and subtitles).  MPEG-4 can--in 
theory--give the same quality as MPEG-2 with half the bitrate.  Assuming 
a 16-bit/pixel uncompressed format (like YUV or YUV2) at 720x480, a 
one-hour recording will take about 70GiB/hr (166 Mb/sec) and a 
24-bit/pixel format (like RGB24) would take about 105GiB/hr (~250Mb/sec) 
not including audio.  (I.e (720 * 480) pixels/frame * 30 frames/sec * X 
bits/pixel  = bitrate )  Now that's compression...


Note that:
1 GiB = 1024MiB = 1048576 KiB = 1073741824 bytes
(see http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html )
1Mb = 1000 Kb = 100 bits



 


Therefore, you will lose quality--even if you can't do progressive display with 
your TV.
   


Is this noticeable?  highly noticeable?  Does this manifest as pixelation or 
artifacts etc...
 

Interlacing artifacts usually include the "jaggies".  Pixelation (or 
blockiness) happens when recording with too high a resolution for a 
given bitrate on a given scene.  I'd say you'll notice more of a quality 
loss from the decode-encode-decode cycle (which can, in fact, cause 
blockiness--even with a sufficient bitrate--through the amplification of 
the quality loss in the original MPEG encoding) than from the loss of 
progressive output.  However, it's quite possible that even the 
decode-encode-decode cycle won't make a noticeable difference.  The best 
way to decide is to see it yourself (and try not to let your 
preconceptions cloud your perspective).



And, finally, there's the annoyance factor...  Since Myth would treat the DVD playback as just 
another "LiveTV" channel, it would buffer it (to allow you to pause, rewind, etc.).  
Therefore, there would be a couple of seconds of delay between the time you pushed a button on your 
DVD remote until it "took" (i.e. when navigating DVD menus).
   


Does this also apply to changing channels on "live" TV?  For example, I change 
the channel on my DTV receiver connected to the backend of my system, do I now wait 
several seconds for the content to appear?  That seems like an unacceptable delay, if I 
were surfing through channels and each press of the channel changer took several seconds 
to respond.
 

Yes.  However, not many people who use MythTV watch LiveTV.  (I'm Mike 
Dean and I haven't surfed channels in 15 months!  Hi, Mike!)  Those who 
do watch LiveTV get used to changing cha

Re: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Tom Hines]

What are you doing watching commercials?

On 5/25/05, Karsten Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a very very important thing missing in MythTV.
> At least I have been missing this feature on every single TV I have had:
> 
> A volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running button.
> 
> Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while the commercials are on?
> I would like a switch button that is programmable so I can press it and
> temporarily lower the volumen to X% of what it was before.
> When the button is pressed again we resume at the previously used volume.
> 
> 
> Karsten
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Re: [mythtv-users] Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T with kernel 2.6.11.10

[Tj]

Paul Andreassen wrote:

My suggestion is maybe your using the wrong options to load the kernel module.  
I noticed a lot of people recommend using "card" and "tuner" with the bttv 
module.  All I do is put "dvb-bt8xx" in my /etc/modules and everything loads 
fine.
 


That could be the solution Will test it out tonite. Thanks.

Do you have enough signal strength on your antenna?  The Twinhan card likes a 
strong signal.
 


Yup it is. I can watch all channels...



Sorry I can't help more,
 

You've been a great help. Now I just now it works.. Can only test it 
later though.. :(




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Re: [mythtv-users] FE_GET_INFO failing

[Michael Haan]

On 5/25/05, Dennis Lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Trying to get myth to recognize my pchdtv3000
> >and I believe I'm getting an error with FE_GET_INFO.
> >I'm running gentoo, vanilla sources 2.6.12-rc4,
> >trying to use the the dvb drivers.  I can capture
> >off the card, so the only thing holding me back
> >is getting myth to see it.  Does anyone know how
> >to fix it?
> 
> Are you running mythbackend as root?  Are you
> running mythtvsetup as root?  Did you stop
> mythbackend (and anything else that may be
> accessing the card) before running mythtvsetup?
> Do you see "Could not open card #x" or "Could
> not get card info for card #x"?
> 
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looks like all users have read access to both the devs and the links
I've built.  I see "Could not get card info for card #x".
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Re: [mythtv-users] Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T with kernel 2.6.11.10

[Paul Andreassen]

On Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50 pm, Tj wrote:
> Paul Andreassen wrote:
> >On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32 pm, Tj NG wrote:
> >>To all Twinhan VisionPlus owners out there,
> >>Any of you guys managed to get the 2.6.11.10 kernel to work with
> >>VisionPlus? MythTV compiles but I couldn't watch TV with it, the picture
> >>is jerking alot ( tried both TS and PS).
> >>Also, anybody tried whether the VP cards work with 2.6.12.RCx's?
> >I have 2.6.11.7 compiled with this patch and my Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T
> > works fine.  I believe it was included in a later kernel so you may
> > already have it.
>
> I already tried that patch. 2.6.11.8 onwards already have this patch.
> The system doesn't freeze on loading the bttv module anymore. However,
> when I tried to watch with my Twinhan cards, the video jumped, audio is
> broken up. Recording shows also produce the same result.
>
> I tried recompiling mythtv, tried both TS/PS modes and still got the
> same problem, any ideas on what I failed to do? So your using 2.6.11.x,
> with Twinhan cards and have no problems watching TV with Mythtv?
>
> I've yet to try another DVB app to see if the problem lies with the
> kernel or myth itself, do you have another DVB app to recommend? MythTV
> is the only app I am using ATM. I used to be able to use dvbstream and
> pipe it to mplayer, but I can't seem to do it anymore.
>
> Not a huge issue for me since I can always fallback to 2.6.10. But I
> would like to move on to a newer kernel if possibe. Thanks for helping
> me out. :p

My suggestion is maybe your using the wrong options to load the kernel module.  
I noticed a lot of people recommend using "card" and "tuner" with the bttv 
module.  All I do is put "dvb-bt8xx" in my /etc/modules and everything loads 
fine.

Do you have enough signal strength on your antenna?  The Twinhan card likes a 
strong signal.

I also can get dvbstream to steam across a network to mplayer.

Sorry I can't help more,
Paul
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[mythtv-users] Finishing my Myth Configuration

[Tim Vruwink]

Greetings:

I've been running MythTV 0.18 for about a week now and am extremely 
pleased with it. This is my first time using it, and I successfully got 
everything running on my first try (with a few restarts).  I have a few 
niggling details I want to nail down before I consider this project 
ready for primetime. 

My box is running Myth .18 frontend and backend.  It's a FC3 box with a 
single Hauppauge 250 tuner card, an Nvidia 5200 video card (s-video out) 
and an Asus NF2 motherboard - using the onboard soundcard. I am using a 
irman with a Radioshack 8 in 1 remote.  I used Jarods guide and the 
mailing list for instructions on how to get everything running.


1.  The down and CH- buttons on my remote are not working - all other 
buttons work great.  I set up the remote using irrecord and the lircrc 
file from Jarods site.  Do I need to rerun irrecord again?  I played 
around with IRW and confirmed that those keys are not responding.  What 
steps do I need to take to get those two buttons working?


2. Mythbackend isn't autostarting.  I've been simply lauching it from 
the console with a "mythbackend &" command, but I'd like to get it 
automated.


3. Whenever I reboot, I loose /dev/video0 and am forced to run "modprobe 
ivtv" to reload my tuner device.  Is this the correct behaviour? Where 
do I set this to run automatically?


4.  I have my Mythtv box set to autologin. However, under FC3 for some 
reason the default X session is "failsafe". How do I get it to use KDE?
Would changing /etc/sysconfig/desktop from desktop=gnome to desktop=kde 
work?


Thanks for any help getting these last remaining issues sorted out.

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[mythtv-users] Re: Installing CVS on xbox, ./configure issues

[Matt]

On 5/25/05, Tony Lill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You probably don't have all the development libraries that you
> need. Here's what I did:
> 
> Run 'apt-get showsrc mythtv-frontend', and install the packages in
> the Build-deps list, except libxinerama-dev, and don't worry about the
> version of x-libs-static. Make sure that you have gcc-3.2 and g++-3.2
> installed and make sure that /usr/bin/gcc and /usr/bin/g++ point to
> these binaries. You may need to add some stuff to your
> /etc/apt/sources.list. Here's mine.
> 
> deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
> non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
> #deb ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/stable/3.2/Debian stable main
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
> deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main
> #deb http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/packages/dists/xebian/ ./
> #deb-src http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/packages/dists/xebian/ ./
> deb http://ftp.linux.pt/pub/xbox/debian/ woody main
> 
> #deb http://localhost/packages/packages_xebian/ ./
> #deb-src http://localhost/packages/packages_xebian/ ./
> #deb http://192.168.1.21/packages_experimental/ ./
> #deb-src http://192.168.1.21/packages_experimental/ ./
> 
> #deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/debian-openoffice/ woody main contrib
> #deb-src http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/debian-openoffice/ woody main contrib
> 
> 
> # Sources need for MythTV
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> deb http://myth.blkbk.com/debian xebian mythtv
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
> non-free
> deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
> non-free
> 

Yup... I think you fixed it... it's compiling now and it detected lirc
and alsa now :)

Thanks!
Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X -Mac Mythfrontend can't find backend, won't give me the setup screen

[Evan Burrows]

I had a similar issue.  I also tried the osx packager script but it
always resulted in a make error.  Assuming that everything was placed
in the default locations when you installed the myth osx frontend go
to a terminal and go into you home directory. Then cd into .mythtv
directory. You should see a file called mysql.txt, you can change the
backend IP in that file then retry starting the frontend. After making
sure my backend was looking accepted incoming connections and the
backend IPs were the same I restarted the osx frontend and everything
was fine.  Hopefully that is what you are looking for.

Good luck



On 5/25/05, Kent Ypma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay - I'm  new to OS X, so bear with me.  The prebuilt mythfrontend
> was working well for me until I made the mistake of changing IP
> addresses for the backend server.  Now when I click on the icon it
> just hangs.  When I run the app from a command line I get an error
> that it can't find the database - but it's looking at the wrong IP
> Address.  So, I reinstalled, tried different versions, nothing got me
> back to the setup screen.  After searching the archives I created a
> new user and after logging in and clicking on the mythtv icon, I got
> the setup screen and was able to give it the proper ip address for the
> backend and everything works beautifully.  Unfortunately, my initial
> user account isn't fixed.
> So here is my best guess:
> The ip information is being kept in some user dependent file outside
> of the mythtv package and if I could find that file I could just
> manually give it the right IP Address.  Can anyone give me a kick in
> the right direction on this?
> 
> TIA,
> Kent
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Re: [mythtv-users] Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T with kernel 2.6.11.10

[Tj]

Paul Andreassen wrote:


On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32 pm, Tj NG wrote:
 


To all Twinhan VisionPlus owners out there,
Any of you guys managed to get the 2.6.11.10 kernel to work with
VisionPlus? MythTV compiles but I couldn't watch TV with it, the picture
is jerking alot ( tried both TS and PS).

Also, anybody tried whether the VP cards work with 2.6.12.RCx's?
   



I have 2.6.11.7 compiled with this patch and my Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T works 
fine.  I believe it was included in a later kernel so you may already have 
it.
 

I already tried that patch. 2.6.11.8 onwards already have this patch. 
The system doesn't freeze on loading the bttv module anymore. However, 
when I tried to watch with my Twinhan cards, the video jumped, audio is 
broken up. Recording shows also produce the same result.


I tried recompiling mythtv, tried both TS/PS modes and still got the 
same problem, any ideas on what I failed to do? So your using 2.6.11.x, 
with Twinhan cards and have no problems watching TV with Mythtv?


I've yet to try another DVB app to see if the problem lies with the 
kernel or myth itself, do you have another DVB app to recommend? MythTV 
is the only app I am using ATM. I used to be able to use dvbstream and 
pipe it to mplayer, but I can't seem to do it anymore.


Not a huge issue for me since I can always fallback to 2.6.10. But I 
would like to move on to a newer kernel if possibe. Thanks for helping 
me out. :p



Regards,
Tj


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Re: [mythtv-users] Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T with kernel 2.6.11.10

[Paul Andreassen]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:32 pm, Tj NG wrote:
> To all Twinhan VisionPlus owners out there,
> Any of you guys managed to get the 2.6.11.10 kernel to work with
> VisionPlus? MythTV compiles but I couldn't watch TV with it, the picture
> is jerking alot ( tried both TS and PS).
>
> Also, anybody tried whether the VP cards work with 2.6.12.RCx's?

I have 2.6.11.7 compiled with this patch and my Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T works 
fine.  I believe it was included in a later kernel so you may already have 
it.

Paul
-- 
--- bttv-cards.c.orig	2005-04-04 16:27:34.0 +0400
+++ bttv-cards.c	2005-04-04 16:26:41.0 +0400
@@ -2718,8 +2718,6 @@ void __devinit bttv_init_card2(struct bt
 }
 	btv->pll.pll_current = -1;
 
-	bttv_reset_audio(btv);
-
 	/* tuner configuration (from card list / autodetect / insmod option) */
  	if (UNSET != bttv_tvcards[btv->c.type].tuner_type)
 		if(UNSET == btv->tuner_type)
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Kyle Rose]

> Hear, Hear!  I agree.  Save your money.  (PS - Kyle, what's your 1st rule?)

I sent this to Ryan earlier tonight:

Ryan A. Carris wrote:

>> I think I miss the Kyle Rose First Rule of Home Theater?

LOL.  There are actually three (somewhat tongue-in-cheek), and I
accidentally combined the second and third in my statement:

1. Cable quality doesn't matter when the data flowing over it is digital.

2. Never buy anything from Monster because it's really overpriced.

3. All audiophile features (e.g., "oxygen free", "magnetically aligned",
etc.) are snake oil.

Cheers,
Kyle
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[mythtv-users] mythdvd - debian package

[Mike Lucente]

Hello,

I've installed (via apt-get) the 0.18 version of mythdvd. The docs say 
that I'm supposed to then go to "Top Level Myth Menu --> Setup --> DVD

Settings" and make some choices. Unfortunately, I don't have that option.

What am I missing???
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Another Bug in mythtv-suite?

[Michael Starks]

Axel Thimm wrote:

Yes, it is. Please send in more details (perhaps better on
bugzilla.atrpms.net and a link to the bug here). Thanks.


As requested: http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=528
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Re: [mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Josh Burks]

On 5/25/05, Karsten Jeppesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a very very important thing missing in MythTV.
> At least I have been missing this feature on every single TV I have had:
> 
> A volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running button.
> 
> Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while the commercials are on?
> I would like a switch button that is programmable so I can press it and
> temporarily lower the volumen to X% of what it was before.
> When the button is pressed again we resume at the previously used volume.
> 
> 

 Sounds good, but doesn't mute do this? Who wants to see, much less
hear the commericals anyways?

Josh
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[mythtv-users] FE_GET_INFO failing

[Michael Haan]

Trying to get myth to recognize my pchdtv3000 and I believe I'm
getting an error with FE_GET_INFO.  I'm running gentoo, vanilla
sources 2.6.12-rc4, trying to use the the dvb drivers.  I can capture
off the card, so the only thing holding me back is getting myth to see
it.  Does anyone know how to fix it?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Backend not found

[Mike C. Fletcher]

Donavan Stanley wrote:

>On 5/25/05, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Forgive the rather basic question 
>>I have been running MythTV on a single box (front and backend together) for
>>some time now. Today I had a power failure and after this failure Myth
>>refuses to start up correctly. It starts up OK but when I go to watch a show
>>or a recoding it tells me that it couldn't find the backend (is it running ?)
>>and it asks me if the IP number in the setup program is correct. I have
>>looked in /etc/mythtv for any sort of configuration file with no luck.
>>What is the 'setup program' referring to ? Since the myth box starts out in
>>GUI mode automatically, and since I have not found a menu item that seems to
>>allow IP configuration, what do I need to do ?
>>
>>
I've been seeing the same symptoms here on a Gentoo box (on restart,
mythbackend isn't starting up), the problem I've found is that
*something* is resetting the ownership of the mysql /var/run/mysqld
directory to root:mysql, instead of mysql:mysql .  As a result, mysqld
doesn't start (but the init.d script doesn't notice this), and then
mythbackend doesn't start because it can't connect to the database
server (but again, the init.d script doesn't notice).

To see if this is the problem, check first to see if mysqld is running:
ps -A -f | grep mythbackend
ps -A -f | grep mysql
If you don't see a half-dozen of both mythbackend and mysqld showing up,
then you may have the same problem.

To get around it, I reset the ownership of the directory to be mysql:mysql:
chown mysql:mysql /var/run/mysqld
Then do (warning: zap is probably a dangerous and evil thing if the
daemon is actually running!)
/etc/init.d/mysql zap
/etc/init.d/mysql start
/etc/init.d/mythbackend zap
/etc/init.d/mythbackend start
No idea how to *fix* the problem, or even if the mysql:mysql ownership
is "correct" (though it does seem to *work*), but hopefully this helps
the original poster somewhat.

Good luck,
Mike

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[BP]

gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) wrote:
> Kyle Rose wrote:
> 

> 
> i have a number of monster products (component cable, banana clips,
> digital audio coax, etc) ... one of the things i really like about their
> stuff is the "girth" of the cable ...
> 
Lower gauge wires (thicker) offer less resistence.  This will lower the
load on your amplifier.  This allows for less distorted music and less
chance for clipping.  For longer wire runs, you want lower gauge to
offset the increased resistence from the increased length.  The premium
you pay for Monster is too much.  Plenty of good quality manufactures
for much less money.  I usually look for oxygen free copper wires.  14
gauge is probably sufficient for most uses.  If you have long runs or
high end equipment, you might want 12 or 10.



> i've also heard many people that are big into the high-end home theatre
> stuff bash Best Buy and Circuit City as places to purchase componants,
> cables, etc ... anyone know why?  is it because BB pushes Monster cables
> on anyone that comes in?  other reasons?  just curious! :)
> 

I would avoid Best Buy.  They're big enough, they typically get custom
models.  I have seen some of the tvs they sell missing features that the
 same tv at another store has.  Yet the price is nearly the same.  They
also play tricks with the model numbers to advertise that they will beat
the price of any competitor (oddly, no one else carries the same model
number).  Just as an example, I purchased the high end model of my tv
from a small local chain for $400 less than Best Buy wanted for their
crippled version of the low end model of the same tv.

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[mythtv-users] Re: Installing CVS on xbox, ./configure issues

[Tony Lill]

You probably don't have all the development libraries that you
need. Here's what I did:

Run 'apt-get showsrc mythtv-frontend', and install the packages in
the Build-deps list, except libxinerama-dev, and don't worry about the
version of x-libs-static. Make sure that you have gcc-3.2 and g++-3.2
installed and make sure that /usr/bin/gcc and /usr/bin/g++ point to
these binaries. You may need to add some stuff to your
/etc/apt/sources.list. Here's mine.

deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
#deb ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/stable/3.2/Debian stable main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main
#deb http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/packages/dists/xebian/ ./
#deb-src http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/packages/dists/xebian/ ./
deb http://ftp.linux.pt/pub/xbox/debian/ woody main

#deb http://localhost/packages/packages_xebian/ ./
#deb-src http://localhost/packages/packages_xebian/ ./
#deb http://192.168.1.21/packages_experimental/ ./
#deb-src http://192.168.1.21/packages_experimental/ ./

#deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/debian-openoffice/ woody main contrib
#deb-src http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/debian-openoffice/ woody main contrib


# Sources need for MythTV
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
deb http://myth.blkbk.com/debian xebian mythtv
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
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Re: [mythtv-users] Reboot of backend causes frontend to crash?

[Brad Fritz]

Mark,

I have a Xebian + blackbox + MythTV CVS frontend and I also have
trouble acknowledging the backend restart dialogs.  After an
unsuccessful attempt at tracking down the root cause, I gave up
and implemented a workaround.  More inline...

On Wed, 25 May 2005 18:02:44 MST Mark Knecht wrote:

[..]
> I can
> still ssh in from a remote system and kill all the mythfrontend
> processes. This brings me to the Xebian desktop but using only the
> remote control how do I restart Myth?

There are probably better ways, but I use irexec bound to an unused
button (on a universal remote) to kill and restart the mythtv process
when necessary.  Here is a snippet from my lirc config file:

begin
prog = irexec
button = POWER
repeat = 0
config = (echo "Press again to stop MythTV."; echo "Press a third time to 
restart.") | osd_cat --delay 2 --pos top --indent 15 --color orange --shadow 3 
--font lucidasanstypewriter-bold-24
config = echo "Stopping MythTV..."| osd_cat --delay 2 --pos top --indent 15 
--color orange --shadow 3 --font lucidasanstypewriter-bold-24 ; 
/usr/bin/killall -TERM mythfrontend ; /usr/bin/killall -9 mythfrontend
config = /root/startMythfrontend
end

(Apologies for the long, unwrapped lines.)

The osd_cat stuff is fluff.  The config below should work too,
assuming lirc doesn't mind the redirects.  I have not tested it
myself.

begin
prog = irexec
button = POWER
repeat = 0
config = /usr/bin/killall -TERM mythfrontend ; /usr/bin/killall -9 
mythfrontend
config = nice -n 2 /usr/bin/mythfrontend >> /var/log/myth/mythfrontend.log 
2>&1 &
end


>Or is there some way I can restart mythfrontend from the ssh
> terminal on another computer but get it to display on the XBox's TV?

By default SSH redirects X output.  You can either:

  export DISPLAY=:0.0

before running the mythfrontend command or use the "-x" option to ssh.

HTH,
Brad

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Re: [mythtv-users] Reboot of backend causes frontend to crash?

[Mark Knecht]

On 5/25/05, Chad Jannusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/25/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > David,
> >In my case the middle green button did not clear this message. Strange.
> >
> >Can you tell me how to restart the window manager? If I lose
> > control of the frontend (it's happened a couple of times now) I can
> > still ssh in from a remote system and kill all the mythfrontend
> > processes. This brings me to the Xebian desktop but using only the
> > remote control how do I restart Myth?
> >
> >Or is there some way I can restart mythfrontend from the ssh
> > terminal on another computer but get it to display on the XBox's TV?
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Mar
> 
> If you kill the X process itself, it should restart the xserver and
> reload mythtv.
> 
> Hope this help,
> Chad Jannusch
> 
Chad,
   So I should try killing /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp the
next time this happens and see if it gets respawned?

Thanks,
Mark
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[mythtv-users] If I can capture hidef video with my hd3000....

[Michael Haan]

by tuning with azap and cat-ing /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0, can I
configure myth to use this card without setting-up a dvb card?  Yes,
I'd like to use the built-in myth dvb support, but I'm having issues
with myht recognizing it.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Newbie questions...

[Rob Bongiovi]

I got lucky, but I didn't have too many problems
getting the PVR-500MCE working following Jarod's
instruction and this thread:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/20096?search_string=pvr-500;#20096.
I'm pretty much a linux novice, having used unix here
and there in the past 10 years, but never programming
or anything. A lot depends on your ability to tolerate
frustration. I had a few moments where I was really
sweating, but I kept it in my mind that
troubleshooting is the best way to learn...

Rob
--- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MagicITX wrote:
> 
> >It is hard for me to comment on the DMA issue
> because I've never
> >encountered it.  I personally have 3 mythtv boxes
> in the room with me
> >running on the VIA M1, the ME6000 and the
> SP13000.  All have
> >either a PVR150, 250, or 500.  I have one running
> as a backend for the
> >ME6000.  I rip dvd's to the backend, play videos
> from the backend,
> >watch recordings, etc - all high bandwidth
> activities and never had a
> >lockup.  My main system's uptime is:
> >
> > 09:04:49 up 20 days,  1:47,  1 user,  load
> average: 0.27, 0.06, 0.02
> >
> >(I don't remember why I rebooted it three weeks ago
> but it wasn't a
> >lockup.  I think it lost keyboard focus when
> MythWeather couldn't
> >connect to the Internet.)
> >
> >I'm not denying the difficulties other's have had. 
> Only that the
> >problems probably no longer exist.  YMMV
> >
> But you'll notice that none of the systems you're
> using have any of the 
> problematic chipsets.
> 
> http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q33
> 
> Q: DMA errors are reported in my logs. I have a VIA
> chipset.
> A: Some VIA chipsets have issues with high amounts
> of DMA traffic 
> (widely reported as bad are KX133, KT133(A). The
> following are assumed 
> to be problematic, as well: KT200, KT333, KT400).
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Reboot of backend causes frontend to crash?

[Chad Jannusch]

On 5/25/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David,
>In my case the middle green button did not clear this message. Strange.
> 
>Can you tell me how to restart the window manager? If I lose
> control of the frontend (it's happened a couple of times now) I can
> still ssh in from a remote system and kill all the mythfrontend
> processes. This brings me to the Xebian desktop but using only the
> remote control how do I restart Myth?
> 
>Or is there some way I can restart mythfrontend from the ssh
> terminal on another computer but get it to display on the XBox's TV?
> 
> Thanks much,
> Mar

If you kill the X process itself, it should restart the xserver and
reload mythtv.

Hope this help,
Chad Jannusch
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge WINTV-PVR-500 for $127 shipped on Amazon

[Karsten Jeppesen]

others have
   


only gotten static from it.

   


Just to throw another one in here:
I just bought a Hauppauge 401 for trying this stuff out and it worked, 
but sound wasn't that good. But since I only paid $20 on ebay then.

Anyway...
I found my gogles and started to inspect the PCB and bingo. The layout 
person hadn't used correct parameters for clearence. So the sound plug 
mounting holes were too close to one of the sound leads.
This will not cause any problems in many cases but quite a number of 
these boards must show the same problem as mine. That the sound lead is 
short circuited. A small screwdriver solved the problem in 30 secs and 
now the card works just fine.
My point is: this is a QA issue. This is something the layout package 
should catch if correctly programmed. So this is a probable error 
happening on newer boards as well. Again all depending of customer feed 
back to Hauppauge.
So if you only got static - look at the connectors: do they work? Any 
shorts? Try a composite signal from a VCR. Do you get a signal?
If you can get a signal from one media and not another. That says 
something. Same if you have only one audio channel.


Karsten

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Re: [mythtv-users] Backend not found

[Donavan Stanley]

On 5/25/05, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Forgive the rather basic question 
> I have been running MythTV on a single box (front and backend together) for
> some time now. Today I had a power failure and after this failure Myth
> refuses to start up correctly. It starts up OK but when I go to watch a show
> or a recoding it tells me that it couldn't find the backend (is it running ?)
> and it asks me if the IP number in the setup program is correct. I have
> looked in /etc/mythtv for any sort of configuration file with no luck.
> What is the 'setup program' referring to ? Since the myth box starts out in
> GUI mode automatically, and since I have not found a menu item that seems to
> allow IP configuration, what do I need to do ?


Chances are you have a lock file that's preventing your init script
from starting the backend.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Energy Usage of MythBoxes

[Sasha Z]

His rack mount server probably didn't have a monitor either...
monitors suck power like there's no tomorrow.

This is one benefit of living in KY - we have dirt cheap electricity.
Thank you coal + hydro!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Reboot of backend causes frontend to crash?

[Mark Knecht]

David,
   In my case the middle green button did not clear this message. Strange.

   Can you tell me how to restart the window manager? If I lose
control of the frontend (it's happened a couple of times now) I can
still ssh in from a remote system and kill all the mythfrontend
processes. This brings me to the Xebian desktop but using only the
remote control how do I restart Myth?

   Or is there some way I can restart mythfrontend from the ssh
terminal on another computer but get it to display on the XBox's TV?

Thanks much,
Mar

On 5/24/05, David Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using Xebian on an Xbox, too, and the middle green button will
> clear away dialog boxes such as the one you describe.  After rebooting
> the backend, it is not necessary to reboot the frontend.  The worst
> that I've seen is that I sometimes have to quit Mythtv on the frontend
> and do a window manager restart to get it running again.
>
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[mythtv-users] WHISH-LIST: what I always wanted.

[Karsten Jeppesen]

There is a very very important thing missing in MythTV.
At least I have been missing this feature on every single TV I have had:

A volumen-preset-while-the-bloody-commercials-are-running button.

Ever noticed that the sound is turned up 15% while the commercials are on?
I would like a switch button that is programmable so I can press it and 
temporarily lower the volumen to X% of what it was before.

When the button is pressed again we resume at the previously used volume.


Karsten

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge WINTV-PVR-500 for $127 shipped on Amazon

[Rob Bongiovi]

I guess I got lucky, but I had almost no problems
getting the PVR-500MCE working. I'm using a Chaintech
7NJL6 Motherboard (which is NVIDIA nForce2  based). I
really got lucky, because I did almost no research on
this before I bought. Two other things that seem to
help:

I can't use the automatic load scripts for
mythbackend. Instead, I load it using Jarod's
~/.kde/Autostart/myth-load.sh just before I load the
frontend (see
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#auto). I think
this may be some sort of driver loading issue (maybe
the one Jarod mentions in the liirc section here
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#lirc?) and may
not even be related to the PVR-500MCE, but if I try it
the other way, all I get is static like the others.

And I had to add this to my modprobe.conf file (above
and beyond Jarod's instructions):
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
alias tuner tuner-ivtv

(this was from this thread:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/20096?search_string=pvr-500;#20096)

I am a linux novice, so once I get this stuff working,
I stop messing with it.

Hope this helps!

Rob
--- Garry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/25/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On 5/25/05, Andrew Close <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 5/25/05, Xiaotian Sun
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 5/25/05, james houston
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Check it out here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/92kh8
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking thru the archives it seems some
> people have
> > > > > gotten this card to work perfectly and
> others have
> > > > > only gotten static from it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone care to weigh in...
> > > >
> > > > I'm getting good pictures, but having IRQ/DMA
> troubles using the
> > > > latest 0.3.x development driver.  It spits out
> > > >
> > > > ivtv: IRQ: IVTV_IRQ_DEC_DMA_ERR
> > > >
> > > > message from time to time and causes machine
> lock-up.
> > >
> > > Xiaotian ,
> > >
> > > what motherboard and chipset are you using?
> > 
> > ASUS Pundit-R, which uses ATI IXP200 chipset. 
> Some people were saying
> > change PCI slots may help in this situation.  But
> for Punidt-R, this
> > is really not an option, due to the physical
> limitations.  The two
> > cards I have (PVR-500 and pcHDTV-3000) can only be
> fit into the box in
> > one configuration.
> > 
> > I've been trying various bios config and kernel
> parameters, such as
> > enabling/disabling io-apic , enabling
> pci=routeirq, etc.  No help.
> > 
> > Xiaotian
> 
> I'm using a PVR-500MCE, along with two PVR-250s, one
> of these is an
> MCE also. All of these I picked up on ebay. At
> first, I did have
> troubles which appeared to be related to IRQ
> sharing. My box is a Dell
> GX260, P4 1.8 Ghz. After switching slots a few
> times, and upgrading
> the BIOS (A03->A09, quite a jump), everything works
> together
> perfectly.
> Unfortunately, due to frustration and stupidity on
> my part, I was not
> very methodical in my testing, so I'm not sure if I
> finally found the
> correct IRQ settings, the correct PCI slots, or if
> the fix was simply
> due to the BIOS upgrade.
> IVTV driver 3.2r
> 
> --Garry
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Re: [mythtv-users] Can't mute, can't change 6cg AC3 volume, audio volume shift on play

[Sasha Z]

I do have it set to master, as is mplayer. The 5.1 channel doesn't
work at all, while 4.1 works as well as 2.1. All the front and rear
speakers change volume in unison, but never quite reach zero. It's
very quiet when muted, but still obviously present.
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Re: [mythtv-users] High level system architecture questions

[Brad Benson]

On 5/25/05, Ben Bargabus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ultimately I'd like to have a master backend and multiple slave backends
> in my "media server room" along with six DTV receivers, two 400 disc DVD
> changers, and a really healthy RAID box.

Instead of buying multiple 400 disc DVD changers, why not put that
money into disks and RAID controllers and then rip your DVD's to the
hard drive?  If you do that you don't have to worry about trying to
pass through video from your DVD player through Myth to the TV.  Just
use MythVideo and all your ripped DVD's are available on demand.  You
could always change up what DVD's are available on disk from time to
time and still pop a DVD into the drive on the frontend machine if
it's not currently available.

Of course, that will require a ton of disk space, but it sounds like
you've already got pretty lofty goals for your network so I wouldn't
think a giant LVM volume spanning RAID drives would be that big of a
deal and it would certainly make things easier from a usability
standpoint.

Just my $0.02.

Brad Benson
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythRecipe

[Karsten Jeppesen]

Patrick de Brabander [mythtv] wrote:


Just wondering. Has somebody installed this on a fedora system.
i've some problems compiling on my system.


Yes I compiled it from scratch, but only the prerelease version (which I 
am still running) and I prepared rpms of it as well. So it can be done :-)

HOWEVER..
It was not a trivial compile.
Search the archives for "Call for testers of release-0-18-fixes branch", 
then you will get the whole story.
A number of rpms must be installed to satisfy the build. Use 
 to search for stuff you cant find.
Most noticable is that the mythtranscode code actually needs stuff from 
FC2 (not sure but I think it was the one that did)
Also MythTV needs the .rpmrc to be set up. I never used that before, but 
I see why they did it. Some of it should be split up though because it 
really belongs in the spec file.

But after all this... then it compiled with no problems.

 
# make

cd mythModule && make -f Makefile
make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/temp/mythextra/mythrecipe/mythModule'
make[1]: *** Geen regel voor aanmaken doel 
`/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', nodig voor `Makefile'.  Stop.

make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/temp/mythextra/mythrecipe/mythModule'
make: *** [sub-mythModule] Fout 2


qmake is part of the qt system. make sure it is nstalled and updated.

Regarding your question about Axel (atrpms):
In my opinion atrpms should be handled with care. If used incorrectly - 
it may blow up your system. Some of the stuff that is there is much more 
complete than it is from the base/update repositories, and a lot more 
bleeding edge. Not unstable - just newer.

So it is possible to paint yourself into a corner revision wise.
My philosophy is: never use yum update while atrpms is active. Only 
download what you need.
An example is the Alsa system. If you use yum update the Alsa system 
will be useless afterwards. Simply because the FC3 rpms for Alsa are 
brainless. So you end up with atrpms Alsa system except for the alsalib 
which will remain the old one. DUH - they are not compatible.
So you can get all the neat stuff from atrpms. But do not disconnect 
your brain. It does require supervision.
That is why I maintain internal caches of outside repositories. It makes 
it faster to wipe the system and get it back up again.



Karsten

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Re: [mythtv-users] Bottom-end MythTv Suggestions

[Craig Betts]

It's true that there's only room for one optical and a single IDE no
SATA (There might be SATA on the more expensive one with the ATI
video).  The noise issue, I think, is that the quiet mode is off by
default in the BIOS settings, and it really howls, but once I turned
on quiet mode, I can't hear it at all.  It didn't take a dremel to get
in my PVR 150, but some forcing was required, and I think I can forget
about putting a second tuner in it.  I can't complain about the video
quality, but I've been using VGA out so far while waiting to get back
the TV I left behind with my girlfriend when I moved.

On 5/25/05, Obie Fayth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob Cottingham wrote:
> >
> > ...I bought an MSI K7N2GM2-LSR motherboard from
> > newegg for $63 with shipping. This motherboard is an nforce2 with onboard
> > sound and video and both svideo and rca out.  It also has SATA...
> > ...I would suggest a Athlon XP-M 2400+ or 2500+ mobile processor for about
> > $80-$90 for low heat and reasonable cost...
> 
> I have also used this motherboard for a remote frontend I built
> recently and completely agree with the recommendation. I just wanted
> to mention though that it did not like the Athlon XP-M 2000 that I
> tried to use and I eventually had to give up and swap processors with
> the backend machine. It now works very well.
> 
> -Obie
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Re: [mythtv-users] High level system architecture questions

[Ben Bargabus]

Thank you for taking the time to reply, I have some comments and
questions embedded below...



> One note, though, when it comes to your (standalone/set-top) DVD
> changer, you probably don't want to hook it into your Myth backend.


My main goal in looking at MythTV is to create a multimedia network,
emphasis on the network.  I'd like all the source to be centralized and
have the thinnest possible clients at each point of media consumption. 
Ultimately I'd like to have a master backend and multiple slave backends
in my "media server room" along with six DTV receivers, two 400 disc DVD
changers, and a really healthy RAID box. (at some point I plan on
bringing HDTV into the mix but I'll avoid that end of the discussion for
now as it seems that the technology, on MythTV's end, is not mature
yet)  I'd like the settop boxes to be minimal, most likely diskless,
machines that simply request data from the backends and perform whatever
sort of decoding is necessary (via something like the PVR-350).  I would
have a DVD-ROM of some sort in each so that if I wanted to watch a DVD
not in the changers I could without walking all the way to the server
room and back but would primarily rely on the backends for all source
media.


> In
> order to integrate it into a Myth system, you'll have to connect it to
> an input on a tuner card.  Therefore, you would either have to have an
> extra tuner card (i.e. one more than the number of satellite receivers
> you have) or only watch DVD's when both tuners are not in use (i.e. when
> only recording one show or none).


I'm fine with the idea of having multiple PVR-250s or even multiple
slave backends.


> Also--and probably more
> importantly--you lose much of the benefit of DVD.


This relates to another question I have.  With a DTV receiver connected
to the backend is the output decoded by the receiver, encoded by the
PVR-250, sent across the network, and decoded by the PVR-350 in the
frontend?  Is this the only solution if the receiver is connected at the
backend (obviously the specific hardware could change but I'm talking
about the decode, encode, decode sequence)?  I'm well versed in
computers but not very well in video so please excuse my ignorance for a
moment, is this because the output from the receiver is analog? (if it
were digital it seems that it would be much easier to just divvy it up
into packets and send it on its way)  Even if analog why not just a good
ADC on one end and DAC on the other?  Is this a
bandwidth/storage-capacity issue (and thus really relying on the
compression of MPEG)?



> Therefore, you will lose
> quality--even if you can't do progressive display with your TV.


Is this noticeable?  highly noticeable?  Does this manifest as
pixelation or artifacts etc...


> And,
> finally, there's the annoyance factor...  Since Myth would treat the DVD
> playback as just another "LiveTV" channel, it would buffer it (to allow
> you to pause, rewind, etc.).  Therefore, there would be a couple of
> seconds of delay between the time you pushed a button on your DVD remote
> until it "took" (i.e. when navigating DVD menus).


Does this also apply to changing channels on "live" TV?  For example, I
change the channel on my DTV receiver connected to the backend of my
system, do I now wait several seconds for the content to appear?  That
seems like an unacceptable delay, if I were surfing through channels and
each press of the channel changer took several seconds to respond.


> (Note that Myth has
> no provisions for piping data directly to TV without a buffer, and there
> are no plans to add this functionality.)


Is this open source?  What language is it written in?  If I get
energetic enough I may fix that.  (I'm a programmer)


Thank you for your response, I look forward to your further feedback,
Ben.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Strange scheduling problem

[Bruce Markey]

Michael T. Dean wrote:

Shaun Bryant wrote:

I am running .18 from the deb install, we have 3 direct TV feeds and 
one cable feed all on PVR-250s in the same dedicated backend. My wife 
sent me the below as a description of the problem she is having.



I just set up a recording schedule for a UPN show. We have DirecTV and 
cable channels 3 and 20 both UPN.  If I set the program to record "at 
anytime on this channel" it sets it to record on BOTH channels 3 and 20.


That's good.  It recognizes that they're the same channel, but with 
different channel numbers on different inputs.


If I cancel one of the duplicate recordings (for instance channel 3) 
it cancels the recording on 20 as well.
 


Once again because they're the same channel.

So, why is it trying to record both of them?


I think that's jumping to a conclusion. It will only record once
from one of the channels or the other and the Upcoming Recordings
page will show which channel and card it is assigned to. However,
in the EPG and any program listings pages it should be marked as
Will Record for that showing on that station for each channel that
carries that station.

IOW, the show may be assigned to "3 UPN" in the Upcoming Recordings
but the EPG will show that the episode Will Record for each of "3 UPN"
and "20 UPN" or the Search Lists->Channels for "3 UPN" and the list
for "20 UPN", etc.

If the under-lying question is how to make the scheduler perfer 20
over 3 or 3 over 20, way too much information can be found here:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.7

--  bjm

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Re: [mythtv-users] HD 3000 DVB has Signal Lock, Myth Can't See It

[Michael Haan]

On 5/25/05, Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/25/05, Andrew Gallatin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > So I think that means the card is working.  But when I try to add a
> > > new card in mythtv-setup I select card type = DVB, and I get:
> > > DVB Card number:   0
> > > Card Name: Could not get card info for card #0!
> > > Card Type:  Invalid argument
> > >
> >
> > If I remember correctly, this means that mythtv was compiled
> > to use a different version of the DVB api that what your
> > kernel and dvb-apps are using.   Did you build from source?
> > If not, try that..   If yes, make sure you are using
> > the DVB headers that you used to compile your kernel.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> 
> I built from source, but from a Gentoo ebuild.  emerge -s myth shows:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root # emerge -s myth
> Searching...
> [ Results for search key : myth ]
> [ Applications found : 13 ]
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythbrowser [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Web browser module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythdvd [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: 0.18
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: DVD player module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythgallery [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Gallery and slideshow module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythgame [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Game emulator module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythmusic [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: 0.18
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Music player module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythnews [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: RSS feed news reading module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythphone [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Phone and video calls with SIP.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythvideo [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: 0.18
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Video player module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-plugins/mythweather [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Weather forecast module for MythTV.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-tv/mythfrontend [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18-r1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 8,595 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Homebrew PVR project
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  media-tv/mythtv
>  Latest version available: 0.17-r1
>  Latest version installed: 0.18-r2
>  Size of downloaded files: 15,745 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: Homebrew PVR project
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  www-apps/mythweb [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18.1
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: PHP scripts intended to manage MythTV from a web browser.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> *  x11-themes/mythtv-themes [ Masked ]
>  Latest version available: 0.18
>  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>  Size of downloaded files: 15,257 kB
>  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
>  Description: A collection of themes for the MythTV project.
>  License: GPL-2
> 
> I'm guessing mythtv is a meta build, so I'm not sure which version I
> have exactly.
> 
> for linux-headers, I have:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root # emerge -s linux-headers
> Searching...
> [ Results fo

Re: [mythtv-users] Can Myth postpone auto-shutdown til commercial flagging is done?

[Petter Gundersen]

On 5/26/05, Lane Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My main Myth system is a combo frontend/backend. I don't like leaving
> it on all the time.
> 
> It's set up to shut down when not in use, and wake up in time for the
> next recording using nvram-wakeup. It will auto-shutdown after 5
> minutes if the frontend is off and it's not recording anything (and no
> recording is about to start). This works fine.
> 
> But I'd like to set things up so that commercial flagging is
> considered "activity" for purposes of auto-shutdown.
> 

This is actually quite easy to accomplish. On the shutdown options
screen in mythtv-setup you can define a Pre Shutdown check-command.
Just create a script that checks if mythcommflag is running, and if so
let the script exit with exit status 1. Otherwise exit with exit
status 0. The script below is one way to do it.

-8<--
#!/bin/sh
ps a | grep -v grep | grep -q mythcommflag && exit 1
exit 0

-8<--


Regards,
Petter
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Energy Usage of MythBoxes

[Brad Templeton]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 08:11:25PM -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 20 March 2005 19:40, Brad Templeton wrote:
> > Well, no, that is indeed what many always-on servers with 3 disk drives
> > and a high speed processor and a fancy graphics card and various other
> > cards do indeed draw, all day long.  
> 
> No its not. Measure it and you will find out.
> 
> Specs don't mean didly squat.   Follow the thread.  What you read
> on the back of the machine is not what it consumes in actual use.
> 
> Unlike others here, I DID measure machines routinely as part of
> my job.   A high end Zeon rack mount server would draw half an amp
> with a three disk raid spinning while copying data from the CdRom.  
> 60 watts.  They have gotten much better of late.


This is a reply to a message from here from 2 months ago.   I actually
am running right now off of batteries and the power meter on my inverter
is reading 120 to 130 watts running the computer (with 3 disk drives,
a GPU, an Athlon 3000 not doing much and a few other minor peripherals.)

My power's out because a car smashed into the power pole in front of
my house!!!

Thus it got me to get around and measuring it as you challenged.  My
feelings about the power usage were correct, and I don't think it's
unusual for desktop systems like mine, nor do I think you must be wrong
about your rack mount server, which is probably designed for better
power efficiency.
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-150 status?

[Childe Roland]

Have you had any framerate issues?

On 5/25/05, Rickard Borgmäster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:20:31 +0200
> Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hit the keyboard and punched:
> 
> > What is the current status of PVR-150 support in relation to Myth?
> >
> > If I use development ivtv drivers, will I get the same functionality as
> > with PVR-250? Including the ability to use remote control? The same wife
> >
> > acceptance factor? The same stability?
> 
> I use a PVR-150 non-MCE with supplied remote. Works well with CVS drivers,
> 
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[mythtv-users] OS X -Mac Mythfrontend can't find backend, won't give me the setup screen

[Kent Ypma]

Okay - I'm  new to OS X, so bear with me.  The prebuilt mythfrontend
was working well for me until I made the mistake of changing IP
addresses for the backend server.  Now when I click on the icon it
just hangs.  When I run the app from a command line I get an error
that it can't find the database - but it's looking at the wrong IP
Address.  So, I reinstalled, tried different versions, nothing got me
back to the setup screen.  After searching the archives I created a
new user and after logging in and clicking on the mythtv icon, I got
the setup screen and was able to give it the proper ip address for the
backend and everything works beautifully.  Unfortunately, my initial
user account isn't fixed.
So here is my best guess:
The ip information is being kept in some user dependent file outside
of the mythtv package and if I could find that file I could just
manually give it the right IP Address.  Can anyone give me a kick in
the right direction on this?

TIA,
Kent
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-150 status?

[Mark Knecht]

On 5/25/05, Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the current status of PVR-150 support in relation to Myth?
> 
> If I use development ivtv drivers, will I get the same functionality as
> with PVR-250? Including the ability to use remote control? The same wife
> acceptance factor? The same stability?
> 

Milos,
   I brought up a PVR-150 on Saturday on a gentoo box. I was using a
pretty new gentoo-source 2.6.11 kernel. I could NOT get it working
with Gentoo's ivtv-0.2 driver (~x86) so I used the 0.3.3k driver from
the ivtv site. That worked fine.

I added this to the /etc/modules.d/ivtv file:

gandalf ~ # cat /etc/modules.d/ivtv
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv

options cx25840 no_black_magic=1
options ivtv ivtv_std=0 tuner=50 tda9887=0 ivtv_debug=1
options cx25840 i2c_enable=1
options saa7127 i2c_enable=-1
install ivtv /sbin/modprobe tuner; /sbin/modprobe msp3400;
/sbin/modprobe saa7115; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ivtv
remove ivtv /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ivtv && /sbin/modprobe
-r saa7115 && /sbin/modprobe -r msp3400 && /sbin/modprobe -r tuner

#options ivtv ivtv-debug=0 mpg_buffers=90
#options tuner type=2
#options msp3400 once=1 simple=1 debug=0
#add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner
#add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c
gandalf ~ #

The TV tuner is working fine. In fact, it's sort fo strange but it
appears that the PVR-150 is actually dual tuner! Both tuner 0 and
tuner 1 seem to work although I did not try recording from tuner 1.

I was unable to get the S-Video or composite video inputs to work yet.

I installed a new, external 300GB 1394 hard drive to act as video
storage. It seemed to be working fine as of this mornig when I left.
I'm sure I'll hear from my 75+ year old Linux using parents if it
fails!

Cheers,
Mark

Hope this helps,
Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Can't mute, can't change 6cg AC3 volume, audio volume shift on play

[Michael T. Dean]

Sasha Z wrote:


I don't have a receiver, just "dumb" speakers plugged in to my nf2's
output... I don't want any pass through. I also stopped using my TV
for speakers because I wanted 5.1 audio for my movie collection, and a
real bass for music.

So it seems that I can boil it down to two questions:

1) Why can't I ever get no output?
2) How do I turn off pass through?

Have you set Myth to use the Master channel for the mixer?  If not, 
you'd probably get the exact behavior you describe since you're using 
more than just the PCM channel...


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-150 status?

[Mark Knecht]

On 5/25/05, Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the current status of PVR-150 support in relation to Myth?
> 
> If I use development ivtv drivers, will I get the same functionality as
> with PVR-250? Including the ability to use remote control? The same wife
> acceptance factor? The same stability?
> 
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Frontend crashes when exiting Watch-TV and Watch Recording

[Michael T. Dean]

Sasha Z wrote:


I'm getting nothing in the logs when it happens, but it doesn't seem
to happen exactly when I exit the recording. It seems to happen when I
exit the recording menu after watching a recording.

If you change the recording group in Watch Recordings (using the menu 
button) and exit the Watch Recordings screen without going into the list 
of recordings (i.e. you stay on the left side of the list and don't push 
the right button), it will segfault.  I think this even happens if you 
stay on the left, hit play or select, watch the recording, then exit the 
Watch Recordings screen.  Could this be what you're seeing?


I admit I've been lazy and haven't looked into it because it's just 
easier to push right after changing the recording group  Sorry Myth 
devs  (Note that you can push right, then go back to the left and 
exit without a segfault.)


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD 3000 DVB has Signal Lock, Myth Can't See It

[Michael Haan]

On 5/25/05, Andrew Gallatin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > So I think that means the card is working.  But when I try to add a
> > new card in mythtv-setup I select card type = DVB, and I get:
> > DVB Card number:   0
> > Card Name: Could not get card info for card #0!
> > Card Type:  Invalid argument
> >
> 
> If I remember correctly, this means that mythtv was compiled
> to use a different version of the DVB api that what your
> kernel and dvb-apps are using.   Did you build from source?
> If not, try that..   If yes, make sure you are using
> the DVB headers that you used to compile your kernel.
> 
> Drew
> 

I built from source, but from a Gentoo ebuild.  emerge -s myth shows:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root # emerge -s myth
Searching...
[ Results for search key : myth ]
[ Applications found : 13 ]

*  media-plugins/mythbrowser [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Web browser module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythdvd [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: DVD player module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythgallery [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Gallery and slideshow module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythgame [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Game emulator module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythmusic [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Music player module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythnews [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: RSS feed news reading module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythphone [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Phone and video calls with SIP.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythvideo [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: 0.18
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Video player module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-plugins/mythweather [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Weather forecast module for MythTV.
  License: GPL-2

*  media-tv/mythfrontend [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 8,595 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Homebrew PVR project
  License: GPL-2

*  media-tv/mythtv
  Latest version available: 0.17-r1
  Latest version installed: 0.18-r2
  Size of downloaded files: 15,745 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: Homebrew PVR project
  License: GPL-2

*  www-apps/mythweb [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 2,464 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: PHP scripts intended to manage MythTV from a web browser.
  License: GPL-2

*  x11-themes/mythtv-themes [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.18
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 15,257 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
  Description: A collection of themes for the MythTV project.
  License: GPL-2

I'm guessing mythtv is a meta build, so I'm not sure which version I
have exactly.

for linux-headers, I have:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root # emerge -s linux-headers
Searching...
[ Results for search key : linux-headers ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  sys-kernel/linux-headers
  Latest version available: 2.6.8.1-r4
  Latest version installed: 2.6.8.1-r4
  Size of downloaded files: 34,870 kB
  Homepage:http://ww

Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-150 status?

[Rickard Borgmäster]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:20:31 +0200
Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hit the keyboard and punched:

> What is the current status of PVR-150 support in relation to Myth?
> 
> If I use development ivtv drivers, will I get the same functionality as 
> with PVR-250? Including the ability to use remote control? The same wife
> 
> acceptance factor? The same stability?

I use a PVR-150 non-MCE with supplied remote. Works well with CVS drivers,
something like 3.4t or around there. Had no luck with the 0.2 stable
drivers. Note that you need lirc-0.7.1 or later for the IR to work. The
remote supplied with PVR150 is "new" so I couldn't find lircrc and
lircd.conf files for it, so I've made my own. Email me (address in sig.)
if you want my files. They're not really optimised but it's a start :-)

-- 

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-150 status?

[Rickard Borgmäster]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:20:31 +0200
Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hit the keyboard and punched:

> What is the current status of PVR-150 support in relation to Myth?
> 
> If I use development ivtv drivers, will I get the same functionality as 
> with PVR-250? Including the ability to use remote control? The same wife
> 
> acceptance factor? The same stability?

I use a PVR-150 non-MCE with supplied remote. Works well with CVS drivers,

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythfilldatabase halts ; unconfigured http cache??

[Rickard =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Borgm=E4ster?=]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:32:45 -0400
"Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hit the keyboard and punched:

> Rickard Borgmäster wrote:
> 
> >
> >Seems as mythfilldatabase calls an external program (perhaps
> >tv_grab_xxx??) which doesn't give mythfilldatabase the output it
> >expects (due to some misconfiguration).
> >
> >I really can't figure out how to fix this. I run myth as root and have
> >a  /root/.xmltv/cache dir and a cache.conf file pointing to the cache
> >dir.
> >
> >I don't get it. What's wrong?
> >  
> >
> Are you running it from the command line as the same user who's running 
> MythTV?  If not, copy the ~/.xmltv directory to the mythtv user's home 
> directory.

Yes. The system is more or less isolated so I haven't bothered setting up
a mythtvuser but run the system as root. Might change it later on but
anyways, since it's all root the .xmltv dir isn't the problem.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Strange scheduling problem

[Michael T. Dean]

Shaun Bryant wrote:


I am running .18 from the deb install, we have 3 direct TV feeds and one cable 
feed all on PVR-250s in the same dedicated backend. My wife sent me the below 
as a description of the problem she is having.


I just set up a recording schedule for a UPN show. We have DirecTV and cable channels 3 
and 20 both UPN.  If I set the program to record "at anytime on this channel" 
it sets it to record on BOTH channels 3 and 20.

That's good.  It recognizes that they're the same channel, but with 
different channel numbers on different inputs.



If I cancel one of the duplicate recordings (for instance channel 3) it cancels 
the recording on 20 as well.
 


Once again because they're the same channel.

So, why is it trying to record both of them?  It sounds like the 
duplicate check method is set to "None", so it records 
everything--whether it's already been recorded or not.


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Michael T. Dean]

Jean Connelly wrote:


Anybody good at folding back quad shield without getting braid
embedded in fingers?
 

When I ran the cable in my house, I had enough braid in my fingers after 
the second connection that the rest were painless...  My fingers were 
basically wearing chainmail armor.


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Bottom-end MythTv Suggestions

[Obie Fayth]

Bob Cottingham wrote:
> 
> ...I bought an MSI K7N2GM2-LSR motherboard from
> newegg for $63 with shipping. This motherboard is an nforce2 with onboard
> sound and video and both svideo and rca out.  It also has SATA... 
> ...I would suggest a Athlon XP-M 2400+ or 2500+ mobile processor for about
> $80-$90 for low heat and reasonable cost...

I have also used this motherboard for a remote frontend I built
recently and completely agree with the recommendation. I just wanted
to mention though that it did not like the Athlon XP-M 2000 that I
tried to use and I eventually had to give up and swap processors with
the backend machine. It now works very well.

-Obie
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD 3000 DVB has Signal Lock, Myth Can't See It

[Andrew Gallatin]

Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> So I think that means the card is working.  But when I try to add a
> new card in mythtv-setup I select card type = DVB, and I get:
> DVB Card number:   0
> Card Name: Could not get card info for card #0!
> Card Type:  Invalid argument
> 

If I remember correctly, this means that mythtv was compiled
to use a different version of the DVB api that what your
kernel and dvb-apps are using.   Did you build from source?
If not, try that..   If yes, make sure you are using
the DVB headers that you used to compile your kernel.

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Re: [mythtv-users] High level system architecture questions

[Michael T. Dean]

Ben Bargabus wrote:


Hello again,
So as I'm planning my hardware purchases for my first system I have some
questions about how this system is intended to be used, best used, and
most commonly used (maybe all three are the same but most likely not).
The vision I have in my head based off of the reading I've done on this
list and in HOWTOs goes something like this...

dss receiver   dvd changer
   |/
   |   /
   |  /
   | /
   |/
   |   /
   |  /
MythTV Backend
 |
 |
 |
  Network
 |
 |
MythTV Frontend
 |
 |
TV


Using that system I imagine myself sitting in front of my television and
making requests to the mythtv frontend (via my remote control) that
access information on the mythtv backend.  In some cases this would be
prerecorded content but may also be live broadcast from my DirectTV
receiver or a movie from my dvd changer (I'd have a connection to the
low speed data port on each of these from the mythTV backend to control
them).  Is this possible, intended, common, best?  A second viable
option I can imagine is something like this...

dss receiver#1  dvd changer
   |/
   |   /
   |  /
   | /
   |/
   |   /
   |  /
MythTV Backend
 |
 |
 |
  Networkdss receiver #2
 |/
 |   /
MythTV Frontend
 |
 |
TV

In this scenario the first dss receiver would be used solely for
scheduled recording whereas "live" tv viewing would be done via dss
receiver #2 (also contolled via low speed data port).  Is this more
realistic/less problematic or unnecessary because my first scenario is
fine?
 

Right, what you described is basically how it works.  In the first 
diagram, you have a dedicated backend and a dedicated frontend.  In the 
second diagram, you have a dedicated backend and a frontend/backend 
combo.  A third diagram could have a dedicated backend and dedicated 
frontend, but you could put both DSS receivers on the single backend 
(just put an extra tuner card in the backend).  (And, of course, there's 
the fourth diagram with a frontend/backend combo with the two DSS 
receivers connected directly to it--this is what I'm doing, primarily to 
limit the number of computers I have to keep running at all times (I 
currently have four with only one of them doing Myth things).)


One note, though, when it comes to your (standalone/set-top) DVD 
changer, you probably don't want to hook it into your Myth backend.  In 
order to integrate it into a Myth system, you'll have to connect it to 
an input on a tuner card.  Therefore, you would either have to have an 
extra tuner card (i.e. one more than the number of satellite receivers 
you have) or only watch DVD's when both tuners are not in use (i.e. when 
only recording one show or none).  Also--and probably more 
importantly--you lose much of the benefit of DVD.  All (non-high-def) 
tuner cards accept NTSC/PAL input.  Since NTSC/PAL are interlaced 
formats, piping DVD output (which can be progressive--depending on your 
DVD and DVD player) through the tuner card would eliminate the potential 
for progressive playback (assuming you have a nice-enough TV that 
progressive is an option).  Also, the MPEG-2 (lossy-format) encoded 
video would be decoded by your DVD changer, piped to your tuner card, 
encoded by your Myth box into another (lossy) format (i.e. MPEG-2 for a 
hardware encoder or RTJPEG or MPEG-4 for a software encoder), then 
decoded by your Myth box and output to the TV.  Therefore, you will lose 
quality--even if you can't do progressive display with your TV.  And, 
finally, there's the annoyance factor...  Since Myth would treat the DVD 
playback as just another "LiveTV" channel, it would buffer it (to allow 
you to pause, rewind, etc.).  Therefore, there would be a couple of 
seconds of delay between the time you pushed a button on your DVD remote 
until it "took" (i.e. when navigating DVD menus).  (Note that Myth has 
no provisions for piping data directly to TV without a buffer, and there 
are no plans to add this functionality.)


Therefore, your best bet for DVD's is to a) get a DVD-ROM or DVD writer 
for your Myth frontend and let it play the DVD's (this is the approach 
I'm using, and I think the output quality--especially when using 
post-processing--rivals, or possibly surpasses, that of even high-end 
DVD players) or b) connect the DVD-changer directly to the TV and use it 
for direct playback (meaning you'll need a slew of remotes to work the 
system and you have all the input-switching rules you have to teach 
people when they come over.


HTH.

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)]

Scott Alfter wrote:

yikes, don't they get paid commission?  isn't one sale w/o monster
cables better than no sales at all?!



Unless they've changed things since I worked there, no.  They get hammered by
their managers to push accessories, service plans, and other add-ons, so while
there's no incentive for them to load people up, there's a strong disincentive
to not doing the same.


Interesting .. always interesting to find out about inner workings of 
businesses ;)


-g-
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: So Close - TV-out on pvr350

[Jason Healy]

At 1117032911s since epoch (05/25/05 09:55:11 -0400 UTC), Matt Salerno wrote:
> I would love to see a working xorg.conf example.

I'm running Knoppmyth, so I think I've got X 4.3.0, not xorg.  FWIW,
I'll attach my config anyway.  It's a lightly modified version of the
Hauppauge sample config that comes with Knoppmyth.

> Another thing I need to do is translate your lilo statement into a
> grub statement.

Depending on your distro, there may be a special section to enter it
in the config file.  Otherwise, I think you can just add it on to the
end of your "kernel" line in grub.conf, like:

  kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.9-21 root=/dev/hda1 video=vc:64-64

Good luck!

Jason

  XF86Config-4 Begin  
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen  0 "TV Screen"
InputDevice"USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"

EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
#   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
#   Load  "GLcore"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "v4l"
Load  "extmod"
#   Load  "glx"
Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
Load  "speedo"
Load  "type1"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft"
Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option  "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option  "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option  "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option  "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "USB Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Protocol"  "IMPS/2"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "Buttons"   "5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "NTSC Monitor"
HorizSync  30-68
VertRefresh 50-120
Mode "720x480"
  # D: 34.563 MHz, H: 37.244 kHz, V: 73.897 Hz
  DotClock 34.564
  HTimings 720 752 840 928
  VTimings 480 484 488 504
  Flags"-HSync" "-VSync"
EndMode
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer"
Driver  "ivtvdev"

### change fb1 to whatever number you got in the previous section
Option  "fbdev" "/dev/fb1"

### change the busid to whatever is reported by lspci. Note that 
### output of lspci is hex, so add a preceding "0x" to the BusID
BusID "0x02:0x02:0x00"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "TV Screen"
Device  "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer"
Monitor "NTSC Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
DefaultFbbpp 32
Subsection "Display

Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Scott Alfter]

gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) wrote:
> Josh Burks wrote:
>> I don't know why either. I purchased my HT system from Worst Buy back
>> in Feb (they were running a good deal on the one I wanted, and I
>> didn't want to pay 150 bucks in shipping)
>> [snippage]
>> I told him that the system would run on Cat5 if I wanted it
>> to.  He got all pissy, and I proceded to the front to pay.
> 
> yikes, don't they get paid commission?  isn't one sale w/o monster
> cables better than no sales at all?!

Unless they've changed things since I worked there, no.  They get hammered by
their managers to push accessories, service plans, and other add-ons, so while
there's no incentive for them to load people up, there's a strong disincentive
to not doing the same.

At various times, I sold computers and cell phones, so at least I didn't have
any Monster snake-oil to push.  The video & audio guys had that task, though,
as well as a manager who had chugged the Monster Kool-Aid.

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Re: [mythtv-users] VCR video to MythTV (USB, 1394 or S-Video capture solutions)

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   This is indeed probably the simplest solution I've heard of yet. I
had to leave my parents place and travel home. We did not manage to
get any of the S-video/composite video solutions working before I
left. This is one my dad can probably handle on his own.

   The only downside I can think of is it requires the power on the
VCR to be in the off position or the turner used will be the VCR's and
not the PVR-150's. If someone copies a tape and then forgets to turn
the power off programs will be missed. I think that's a very managable
risk.

   Thanks for the simple idea.

Cheers,
Mark

On 5/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  Wouldn't the simple solution be:
> 
>  1) Run the cable/satellite connection into the VCR's TV-INPUT.
>  2) Split the VCR's output: 1 - To TV, 2 - To Mythtv box.
> 
>  Then, the input will come from the cable/satellite (if you have
>  analog
>  cable, and you are using the capture card tuner, as long as the VCR
>  is
>  off and passing the signal though. When it is desired to capture the
>  output of a tape, you set the mythbox to manually record channel 3
>  for
>  the duration of the tape.
> 
>  This works for me, with a cable tv setup and a VCR.
>  Hope I've understood the problem/explained this correctly (been a
>  long day).
> 
> >
> > On 5/24/05, Kevin Kuphal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Mark Knecht wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >   I've been at my parents house for a few days getting a MythTV
> > > >installation setup. It's all wokring and my folks are pretty
> > happy.
> > > >However no good ded goes unpunished. My dad is now asking for a
> > way
> > to
> > > >capture his videos and be able to watch them in MythTV. As I've
> > only
> > > >got one more day here before I travel home I'm looking for some
> > ideas.
> > > >
> > > >1) The mythbackend machine has a PVR-150 so it has a (yet
> > untested)
> > > >S-video input. Does this input work on the PVR-150/250/250?
> > > >
> > > >2) The machine also has 1394 and USB inputs. I understand people
> > are
> > > >capturing HD over 1394 for that should work if there's a good
> > capture
> > > >device that can go outside the PC.
> > > >
> > > >3) My folks have 3 VCR's but none have S-video outputs.
> > > >
> > > >  Would I be better off to suggest he buys a new VCR with an
> > S-Video
> > > >output and then record that via the input on the PVR? Or is there
> > some
> > > >USB or 1394 solution that is known to work well under Linux and
> > > >MythTV.
> > > >
> > > >   Hi goal is to get the video onto the same /TVstorage partition
> > > >we're using for Myth recordings and also eventually be able to
> > author
> > > >a DVD for the family with some of this stuff. He interviewed a
> > number
> > > >of my relatives 20-30 years ago and wants to save these
> > conversations
> > > >as part of a family tree project.
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Can't mute, can't change 6cg AC3 volume, audio volume shift on play

[Sasha Z]

I don't have a receiver, just "dumb" speakers plugged in to my nf2's
output... I don't want any pass through. I also stopped using my TV
for speakers because I wanted 5.1 audio for my movie collection, and a
real bass for music.

So it seems that I can boil it down to two questions:

1) Why can't I ever get no output?
2) How do I turn off pass through?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Frontend crashes when exiting Watch-TV and Watch Recording

[Sasha Z]

I'm getting nothing in the logs when it happens, but it doesn't seem
to happen exactly when I exit the recording. It seems to happen when I
exit the recording menu after watching a recording.
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB board advice

[Kevin Barsby]

Thanks for all the feedback, a couple of potential candidates. Someone
must have used an avermedia card though?

Cheers
Kev


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Re: [mythtv-users] Watching a Video whilst Recording

[Jonathan Watmough]

On 5/25/05, Greg Grotsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I noticed something weird the other day.  I was watching a movie thatI was recording at the same time, I was maybe 45min to an hour behindrealtime.  I was skipping the commercials, and as the show wasrecording it looked very good... I saw the END time of the movie
growing and it looked normal, like an hour and 45 minutes.
Yeah, I've noticed this occasionally. Doesn't seem to hurt anything,
but I don't flag commercials and I have my own batch/cron setup for
transcoding.

Jonathan 
  Anyway, when the movie ended in realtime and I was still watching ittime-shifted, when I brought up the timescale, it was way off.  It
suddenly reported like 7 hours instead of 2.  The movie played fineand ended at the 2 hour mark.  When I went back to play it again fromthe recordings menu it loaded up and the timescale thingie was now 2hours.
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[mythtv-users] HD 3000 DVB has Signal Lock, Myth Can't See It

[Michael Haan]

If I run dvbscan, I get:

root # ./dvb-apps/util/scan/dvbscan -c
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x1ffb
dumping lists (11 services)
[0003]   (0x0003) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0013 A 0x0014 (eng)
[0004]   (0x0004) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0010 A 0x0011 (eng)
[0005]   (0x0005) 00: PCR == V   V 0x001b A 0x001c (eng)
[0006]   (0x0006) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0018 A 0x0019 (eng)
[0002]   (0x0002) 00: PCR == V   V 0x001e A 0x001f (eng)
[000f]   (0x000f) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0021 A 0x0022 (eng)
[000e]   (0x000e) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0023 A 0x0024 (eng)
[000d]   (0x000d) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0025 A 0x0028 (eng)
[0010]   (0x0010) 00: PCR == V   V 0x0029 A 0x002a (eng)
[0012]   (0x0012) 00: PCR == V   V 0x002d A 0x002e (eng)
[0011]   (0x0011) 00: PCR == V   V 0x002b A 0x002c (spa)
Done.

So I think that means the card is working.  But when I try to add a
new card in mythtv-setup I select card type = DVB, and I get:
DVB Card number:   0
Card Name: Could not get card info for card #0!
Card Type:  Invalid argument

If I select card 1, then back to 0, I get:
DVB Card number:   0
Card Name: Could not get card info for card #0!
Card Type:  Success

Also, I've got a PVR-350 in the box.  Finally, in /dev, I have:

crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 212, 4 May 22 19:22 /dev/dvb0.demux0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 212, 5 May 22 19:22 /dev/dvb0.dvr0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 212, 3 May 22 19:22 /dev/dvb0.frontend0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 212, 7 May 22 19:22 /dev/dvb0.net0

Which I manually linked to:
root # find /dev/dvb*
/dev/dvb
/dev/dvb/adapter0
/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
/dev/dvb0.demux0
/dev/dvb0.dvr0
/dev/dvb0.frontend0
/dev/dvb0.net0

So, what I'm wondering, is why myth can't find my card?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge WINTV-PVR-500 for $127 shipped on Amazon

[Garry Cook]

On 5/25/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/25/05, Andrew Close <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 5/25/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 5/25/05, james houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Check it out here:
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/92kh8
> > > >
> > > > Looking thru the archives it seems some people have
> > > > gotten this card to work perfectly and others have
> > > > only gotten static from it.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone care to weigh in...
> > >
> > > I'm getting good pictures, but having IRQ/DMA troubles using the
> > > latest 0.3.x development driver.  It spits out
> > >
> > > ivtv: IRQ: IVTV_IRQ_DEC_DMA_ERR
> > >
> > > message from time to time and causes machine lock-up.
> >
> > Xiaotian ,
> >
> > what motherboard and chipset are you using?
> 
> ASUS Pundit-R, which uses ATI IXP200 chipset.  Some people were saying
> change PCI slots may help in this situation.  But for Punidt-R, this
> is really not an option, due to the physical limitations.  The two
> cards I have (PVR-500 and pcHDTV-3000) can only be fit into the box in
> one configuration.
> 
> I've been trying various bios config and kernel parameters, such as
> enabling/disabling io-apic , enabling pci=routeirq, etc.  No help.
> 
> Xiaotian

I'm using a PVR-500MCE, along with two PVR-250s, one of these is an
MCE also. All of these I picked up on ebay. At first, I did have
troubles which appeared to be related to IRQ sharing. My box is a Dell
GX260, P4 1.8 Ghz. After switching slots a few times, and upgrading
the BIOS (A03->A09, quite a jump), everything works together
perfectly.
Unfortunately, due to frustration and stupidity on my part, I was not
very methodical in my testing, so I'm not sure if I finally found the
correct IRQ settings, the correct PCI slots, or if the fix was simply
due to the BIOS upgrade.
IVTV driver 3.2r

--Garry
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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv compile and build

[Lane Schwartz]

Yeah - my recommendation would be to use Axel's rpms if you can:
http://atrpms.net/

If that's not an option, check out the ivtv mailing list archives:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/

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[mythtv-users] [mythtv] Re: Re: SIGSEGV at end of recording

[Charlie Brej]

> Can you put something like:
>
> printf("deleting refsock: %p\n", this); in the 'if (refCount < 0)' clause in 
server.h?

> Also, something like:
> printf("new socket: %p\n", this); in the constructor, and printf("locking 
socket %p\n", this); in the Lock + unlock functions (change text as appropriate, 
of course).

>
> Don't really understand how it could be crashing, really.  Things shouldn't 
be able to be deleted and still stay in that list, unless..  This isn't a slave 
backend doing the dying, is it?

>
> Isaac


The original guy didn't reply yet but I have the same problem. I inserted the 
lines above and here is the dump.

Seems 0xab716f28 is deleted and then locked.

---8<---
locking socket 0xabafab20
unlocking socket 0xabafab20
locking socket 0xad586c20
2005-05-25 20:53:48.802 write -> 33 45 
BACKEND_MESSAGE[]:[]SCHEDULE_CHANGE[]:[]empty
unlocking socket 0xad586c20
locking socket 0xab716f28
unlocking socket 0xab716f28
locking socket 0xab854da0
unlocking socket 0xab854da0
2005-05-25 20:53:50.000 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 28, 
found 0 total jobs

new socket: 0xaba6ded0
locking socket 0xaba6ded0
2005-05-25 20:53:59.504 write -> 22 13  ACCEPT[]:[]17
unlocking socket 0xaba6ded0
locking socket 0xaba6ded0
2005-05-25 20:53:59.523 read  <- 22 26  ANN Playback hilly.house 0
2005-05-25 20:53:59.534 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 20:53:59.538 adding: hilly.house as a client (events: 0)
2005-05-25 20:53:59.538 write -> 22 2   OK
unlocking socket 0xaba6ded0
locking socket 0xaba6ded0
2005-05-25 20:53:59.723 read  <- 22 19  QUERY_GETALLPENDING
2005-05-25 20:53:59.738 write -> 22 70372   0[]:[]121[]:[]My Hero[]:[]Time and 
Time Again[]:[]Sitcom about an...

unlocking socket 0xaba6ded0
deleting refsock: 0xad4dfb18
deleting refsock: 0xab716f28
deleting refsock: 0xab8c0fa0
new socket: 0xabb0b988
locking socket 0xabb0b988
2005-05-25 20:54:12.471 write -> 22 13  ACCEPT[]:[]17
unlocking socket 0xabb0b988
locking socket 0xabb0b988
2005-05-25 20:54:12.496 read  <- 22 26  ANN Playback hilly.house 0
2005-05-25 20:54:12.502 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 20:54:12.502 adding: hilly.house as a client (events: 0)
2005-05-25 20:54:12.503 write -> 22 2   OK
unlocking socket 0xabb0b988
locking socket 0xabb0b988
2005-05-25 20:54:12.761 read  <- 22 19  QUERY_GETALLPENDING
2005-05-25 20:54:12.782 write -> 22 70372   0[]:[]121[]:[]My Hero[]:[]Time and 
Time Again[]:[]Sitcom about an...

unlocking socket 0xabb0b988
new socket: 0xab716f28
locking socket 0xab716f28
2005-05-25 20:54:15.053 write -> 22 13  ACCEPT[]:[]17
unlocking socket 0xab716f28
locking socket 0xab716f28
2005-05-25 20:54:15.079 read  <- 22 26  ANN Playback hilly.house 0
2005-05-25 20:54:15.090 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 20:54:15.090 adding: hilly.house as a client (events: 0)
2005-05-25 20:54:15.090 write -> 22 2   OK
unlocking socket 0xab716f28
locking socket 0xab716f28
2005-05-25 20:54:15.256 read  <- 22 19  QUERY_GETALLPENDING
2005-05-25 20:54:15.271 write -> 22 70372   0[]:[]121[]:[]My Hero[]:[]Time and 
Time Again[]:[]Sitcom about an...

unlocking socket 0xab716f28
2005-05-25 20:54:15.370 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new 
jobs from 00:00 to 23:59
2005-05-25 20:54:15.380 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, 
found 0 total jobs

deleting refsock: 0xab6bd850
deleting refsock: 0xaba43530
deleting refsock: 0xab854da0
deleting refsock: 0xaba6ded0
2005-05-25 20:55:02.168 DVB#1 Trying to tune to channel 5.
2005-05-25 20:55:02.179 DVB#1 Frequency: 850166670. BW:8MHz HP:2/3 LP:1/2 C:64 
TM:2K H:None GI:1/32
2005-05-25 20:55:02.241 Started recording "Super Structures" on channel: 1017 on 
cardid: 1, sourceid 1

2005-05-25 20:55:02.250 DVB#0 Trying to tune to channel 36.
2005-05-25 20:55:02.260 DVB#0 Frequency: 850166670. BW:8MHz HP:2/3 LP:1/2 C:64 
TM:2K H:None GI:1/32

locking socket 0xabafab20
unlocking socket 0xabafab20
locking socket 0xad586c20
2005-05-25 20:55:02.328 write -> 33 45 
BACKEND_MESSAGE[]:[]SCHEDULE_CHANGE[]:[]empty
unlocking socket 0xad586c20
locking socket 0xab716f28
unlocking socket 0xab716f28
2005-05-25 20:55:02.446 DVB#0 Waiting for frontend event after tune.
2005-05-25 20:55:02.721 DVB#0 DVB signal cdcd | snr bdbd | ber 1fffe | unc0
2005-05-25 20:55:03.027 DVB#0 Status: LOCK.
2005-05-25 20:55:03.028 DVB#0 Multiplex Locked
2005-05-25 20:55:03.718 DVB#1 Waiting for frontend event after tune.
2005-05-25 20:55:03.742 DVB#1 DVB signal 3a3a | snr  | ber0 | unc0
2005-05-25 20:55:03.742 DVB#1 Status: LOCK.
2005-05-25 20:55:03.743 DVB#1 Multiplex Locked
2005-05-25 20:55:03.919 DVB#0 Successfully tuned to channel 36.
[New Thread -1390416976 (LWP 12346)]
locking socket 0xabafab20
unlocking socket 0xabafab20
locking socket 0xad586c20
2005-05-25 20:55:04.085 write -> 33 51 
BACKEND_MESSAGE[]:[]RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE[]:[]empty

unlocking

[mythtv-users] Can Myth postpone auto-shutdown til commercial flagging is done?

[Lane Schwartz]

My main Myth system is a combo frontend/backend. I don't like leaving
it on all the time.

It's set up to shut down when not in use, and wake up in time for the
next recording using nvram-wakeup. It will auto-shutdown after 5
minutes if the frontend is off and it's not recording anything (and no
recording is about to start). This works fine.

But I'd like to set things up so that commercial flagging is
considered "activity" for purposes of auto-shutdown.

That way, Myth can turn itself on, record something (then flag the
commercials), turn itself off, and when I turn it on the next day to
watch the show, I can load up the commercial cutlist. As it is now,
it's quite likely that newly recorded shows aren't flagged, even
though there were many hours or even days between the recording time
and the viewing of the show.

I suspect that adding this option would require some coding, but I
thought I'd check to see if anyone else has any ideas.

Thanks,
Lane

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)]

Josh Burks wrote:

On 5/25/05, gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


i've also heard many people that are big into the high-end home theatre
stuff bash Best Buy and Circuit City as places to purchase componants,
cables, etc ... anyone know why?  is it because BB pushes Monster cables
on anyone that comes in?  other reasons?  just curious! :)




I don't know why either. I purchased my HT system from Worst Buy back
in Feb (they were running a good deal on the one I wanted, and I
didn't want to pay 150 bucks in shipping)


sweet ... i got a great deal on mine, too, through circuit city ... 
saved a lot of money picking it up myself (and the girl that checked me 
out said it was going on sale in a week, so she gave me the sale price, 
which i wouldn't have gotten online!) ...


however, i got my HDTV from BB (4:3 27" Advent) ... kicking myself still 
:( ... oh well, i've learned a lot about the technology since then, so 
next time, i'll get it right ;)




Well, I looked at all the
boxes and saw no mention of "Monster Cable or equivlent required" on
any box.


it's in the fine print ;)



I told him that the system would run on Cat5 if I wanted it
to.


hell, the speaker wire that usually comes w/ HT systems is just 
*slightly* better than the individual wires in cat5 :P ... i know my 
onkyo came with really crappy wires which i promptly replaced with 
thicker ones (is that higher or lower gauge, i can never remember :P) 
and added banana clips on one end and "poles" (the speakers have "bare 
wire" spring-loaded connectors) on the other end ... much better! :)




He got all pissy, and I proceded to the front to pay.


yikes, don't they get paid commission?  isn't one sale w/o monster 
cables better than no sales at all?!




I think a quality cable makes the system sound better, but $20 per
cable difference between the Monster Cables and Acoustic Research
cables is retarded.


yah, now that you mention it, i believe that's what my speaker cables 
are (AR, not phillips) ... same w/ the "pole" ends


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RE: [mythtv-users] ivtv compile and build

[Cenk Ozkan]

I guess you looked at :

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

Cenk 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mercury Morris
Sent: 25 May 2005 22:54
To: MythTV Discussion
Subject: [mythtv-users] ivtv compile and build

Progress so far:

 1. Fedora Core 3 installed on a new AMD64 machine.
 2. MythTV downloaded from CVS, as of today (25 May).
 3. Successful compile, mythtv-setup runs thru General just fine.

Next step, installing the drivers for a PVR-350 card.

Would anyone care to offer places to look for a set of steps that would help
me compile, build, and install ivtv ?

I've been looking for Blogs, Howto's, mailing-list messages, where someone
might have listed the steps necessary for compiling ivtv from source and
getting all the other pieces put together.

Right now, it looks like a much larger task than all the preceding steps
combined.  For example, it appears that the kernel source must be installed
just so ivtv will compile.

Eventually, assuming I can get ivtv installed by compiling from source, I
will document the process, so anyone else who goes the AMD64 route can have
something to refer to.

Thanks for any pointers, advice, or uproarious laughter you might have.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)]

Jean Connelly wrote:

Regarding:


i'd
*LOVE* to have this one:
http://www.hometech.com/tools/coax.html#TH-IT1000 but just can't justify
it for the few amount of times i'll be running RG-6 cable :(



I thought the same thing, so I picked up an IT1000.  Turns out that
terminating cable is always a pain even with good tools.  I still
can't get ends in which I feel confident.


my only experience w/ the IT1000 is w/ standard RG6, so i can't help 
ya... i know it was a snap (heh, no pun intended) to use w/ standard RG6 
... as far as ends go, i'm not sure of what brand or anything, we just 
used what sprint gave us to use


-g-
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[mythtv-users] DVB channel confusion

[Andrew Gallatin]

At least for US users, channel numbering for DVB boards is pretty
confusing.  I was hoping for some info on what the current
"best practice" is for setting up DVB channels.

When you do a channel scan, mythtv picks up a channel number from the
DVB broadcast.  For example, in my area, fox HDTV is "501".  However,
the datadirect number for fox is "50_1".   

What I did when I set my box up 3 months ago was to first do a channel
scan, and then run mythfilldatabse.  This resulted in duplicate
entries for every channel.  One with data-direct, and one with DVB
numbering.  I then went into mysql and manually copied the xmltvid from
the "datadirect" channel to the "dvb" channel, and deleted the 
datadirect channels.I also deleted channels picked up in the
scan with marginal reception, since tuning to a marginal DVD channel
is a landmine.

This setup seemed to work well for quite a while, and I was very
happy.  But, after a while, my channel information started to get
corrupt.  I'd see channels with garbage names in the program guide.
Finally, my recordings were done on the wrong channel.  I'd setup a
recording on channel "X", and then it would actually record channel "y"

So, I just wiped my channel/tuner information and re-scanned and
re-filled the database last weekend.  Now my recordings seem to be
working again.

However, is there anything I should do differently to keep the
creeping-crud from coming back into my database?  I assume these
bogus channels were somehow confusing myth, and bumping its own
channel numbers around (meaning the channel numbers that appear
in the .nuv filenames). 

Thanks,

Drew


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[mythtv-users] ivtv compile and build

[Mercury Morris]

Progress so far:

 1. Fedora Core 3 installed on a new AMD64 machine.
 2. MythTV downloaded from CVS, as of today (25 May).
 3. Successful compile, mythtv-setup runs thru General just fine.

Next step, installing the drivers for a PVR-350 card.

Would anyone care to offer places to look for a set of steps
that would help me compile, build, and install ivtv ?

I've been looking for Blogs, Howto's, mailing-list messages,
where someone might have listed the steps necessary for
compiling ivtv from source and getting all the other pieces 
put together.

Right now, it looks like a much larger task than all the preceding
steps combined.  For example, it appears that the kernel source
must be installed just so ivtv will compile.

Eventually, assuming I can get ivtv installed by compiling from source,
I will document the process, so anyone else who goes the AMD64 route
can have something to refer to.

Thanks for any pointers, advice, or uproarious laughter you might have.

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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV 3000 Help!! WAF is diminishing

[Gregg]

Okay I found the answer.  I had to upgrade to ivtv 0.3.4 for both my
pvr250 and pcHDTV3000 to coexist.  For some reason the hd3000 did not
like the 0.2.x drivers.  Now it works great.

-Gregg

On 5/24/05, Gregg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> okay I tried to recompile I thought it worked until I received the
> attached text file.
> 
> I also downloaded the dvb drivers using apt-get, but those don't work
> either.  I am a little new at compiling so any help is appriciated.  I
> created a link called linux in /usr/src directory to
> /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.14_FC3/build.  I think that is correct.
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> 
> On 5/24/05, Cecil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Gregg wrote:
> >
> > >I upgraded my fc3 kernel from 2.6.10 to 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 because my
> > >ivtv drivers were not working.  Now they do, but when I try to
> > >modprobe cx88-dvb I get [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.6.11-1.14_FC3]#
> > >modprobe cx88-dvb
> > >FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb
> > >(/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.14_FC3/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Invalid module format
> > >FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvb
> > >
> > >Can anyone tell my how to fix it?  It worked with no problem before I
> > >upgraded.  I rebuilt the drivers, but no dice.
> > >
> > >Any help is greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >-Gregg
> > >
> > >
> > It usually means the module you are trying to load was compiled for a
> > different kernel.  So, recompile (or get a binary) pcHDTV 2.0.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Cecil
> >
> 
> 
>
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[mythtv-users] Watching a Video whilst Recording

[Greg Grotsky]

 I noticed something weird the other day.  I was watching a movie that
I was recording at the same time, I was maybe 45min to an hour behind
realtime.  I was skipping the commercials, and as the show was
recording it looked very good... I saw the END time of the movie
growing and it looked normal, like an hour and 45 minutes.

  Anyway, when the movie ended in realtime and I was still watching it
time-shifted, when I brought up the timescale, it was way off.  It
suddenly reported like 7 hours instead of 2.  The movie played fine
and ended at the 2 hour mark.  When I went back to play it again from
the recordings menu it loaded up and the timescale thingie was now 2
hours.

I just thought it was strange, has anyone else seen this?

-Greg
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[mythtv-users] mythRecipe

[Patrick de Brabander [mythtv]]

Just wondering. Has 
somebody installed this on a fedora system.
i've some problems 
compiling on my system.
 
# makecd 
mythModule && make -f Makefilemake[1]: Entering directory 
`/mnt/temp/mythextra/mythrecipe/mythModule'make[1]: *** Geen regel voor 
aanmaken doel `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', nodig voor 
`Makefile'.  Stop.make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/mnt/temp/mythextra/mythrecipe/mythModule'make: *** [sub-mythModule] Fout 
2
 
Could it be here the 
problem that i'm using rpm's from Axel.
 
 
Will there a 
possibillity that there will come a rpm of the plugin or the other plugins from 
nightcrawler.
http://mythextra.napsi.net/download.html
 
 
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[mythtv-users] channel/volume change via scripts ?

[Mudit Wahal]

Hi,

Are there any scripts written which will let you change the
channel/volume, change the mode to liveTV, etc etc in the backend
WITHOUT running the frontend ?

An interesting application will be to change live TV channel via web
interface in devices which dont understand myth protocol and where
myth frontend can't be ported. But these devices (such as networked
dvd media players) can read media files and run web clients.

Then watching live TV will be as simple as pointing the file to played
to the live TV cache file and changing channels/volume hooked to the
scripts at the backend via web.

Thanks

Mudit
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[mythtv-users] Re: Problem with Mythburn

[Ross Campbell]

> What IVTV versions has everyone used that gives them awesome results 
> with no sync loss/dropped frames? 

FWIW, I use the latest 0.3.Xx unstable drivers from http://www.ivtv.tv

I use mplex instead of replex and don't use the avidemux2 commercial
cutting and results have been very satisfactory -- with exception of
some occasional issues with compatibility with DVD players dependnig
on what combination of software versions I have at the moment ... but
linux and xine are always able to play them just fine.

> On what hardware?  Have you frozen a 
> tarball of that driver?

No need -- the old tarballs are all at above URL.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Volume Change in MythTV

[Karsten Jeppesen]

Jochen Kühner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  I can enter
in MythTV Wich Volume control it sould
change!
   
  Must I enter
here The Alsa name or the oss name of
the control?? Or is it the same???
  

Chocolate or Coffe? Well you forgot to tell if it is supposed to be
cold or hot.
You have to look into the setup of your machine. Is it set up with Alsa?
If not then the answer is obvious: You must use the /dev/dsp
If Alsa is supported by your machine, then (sigh) it depends on how
Alsa is set up.
Usually Alsa is set up to support the old OSS. You can see that by
doing a:
lsmod | grep snd_
If you see snd_pcm_oss then Alsa is setup for OSS emulation. In that
case you can still use /dev/dsp
But you also have the choise to use Alsa directly, in which case you
may specify the Alsa device as
ALSA:
Most likely they will NOT react identically as Alsa requires separate
setup.


Karsten


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[mythtv-users] Re: Mythstream Tips Tricks

[Ross Campbell]

> > > I think this is a great module that SHOULD be included
> > > in mythtv plugins!
> > 
> > Not as is.  It needs integrated into mythmusic.  The user shouldn't have to 
> > care where the music's coming from, so having multiple interfaces (one for 
> > streams, one for files) to get to it doesn't work.

After LiveTV and Watch Recordings, MythStream is the next most used
part of my MythTV systems. By contrast, I rarely use mythmusic
currently. If I had a card that supported FM radio, I'd probably use
MythV4lRadio more than mythmusic and mythstream combined.

I would like nothing more than to see the streaming and radio code go
into "mythmusic", but to be usable from mythtv, I belive the current
mythmusic frontend really needs to become multiple purpose-focused
frontends.

What I want for streaming media:
- select favorite URL presents (5-10)
- vast selection of "top" stream from shoutcast/live365 sorted by
genre like streamtuner - http://www.nongnu.org/streamtuner/ -
really... if you haven't checked out streamtuner, give it a whirl and
imagine how cool it would be to have mythstream be able to surf most
popular URLs by genre like streamtuner... I'd probably never load
mp3/ogg files onto my mythtv box again
- Like in streamtuner with xmms, I want to see the current songs that
are playing on all stations when a scan is run, and I'd like to see
the upcoming playlist.
- I'd like to have goom/mythmusic visualizations, but I would always
like to have the "station name" and current song visible
- a frequently overlooked fact is that mythstream supports streaming
VIDEO too. Don't know how this could currently be integrated into
mythmusic, but there are times this is useful and cool. MythWeather
would be more useful, if it had links for streaming weather reports
from weather.com , and you can learn some really interesting stuff by
watching NASA TV
- I want to be able to schedule and record streaming content
- I'd like to buffer streaming content and pause/rewind it, and
timestretch it (why not?)

What I want for Radio:
Actually MythFM/MythV4LRadio is pretty good...
- I'd like to see it be part of the mythplugins and have an "autoscan"
option in the interface
- more of an open question - do any tuner cards have radios that
support "radio text"?
- I'd like to be able to schedule and record radio content and have
certain radio stations show up in the program listings -- maybe even
be able to assign them channel numbers

What I want local music file playback:
- easier playlist creation
- auto playlists by artist and genre that can be browsed as virtual playlists

While I can certainly think of how the *CODE* for streaming and radio
could/should go into mythmusic, I think that the user interface for
those functions should be different. I listen to 4 streaming radio
stations all the time, and *if* they were inserted into mythmusic...
where should they be?? maybe at a menu level above music? so...
entering mythmusic, you'd be placed into a menu where you could choose
categories of "music" "radio" "internet stream" ? I would want to have
categories below each of those as well... I just want the menus to be
simple and obvious for quick access to my favorites.

> Well, is a live stream more similar to a TV transmission (with
> timeshifting recording, etc.), or a music track?   that's arguable;
> and MythStream deals with both.

> FWIW, I'd love to see better integration for MythStream, it is
> very useful and a key component in WAF reduction here. ;)

Agreed.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Josh Burks]

On 5/25/05, gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> i've also heard many people that are big into the high-end home theatre
> stuff bash Best Buy and Circuit City as places to purchase componants,
> cables, etc ... anyone know why?  is it because BB pushes Monster cables
> on anyone that comes in?  other reasons?  just curious! :)
> 

I don't know why either. I purchased my HT system from Worst Buy back
in Feb (they were running a good deal on the one I wanted, and I
didn't want to pay 150 bucks in shipping), and the salesperson asked
if I needed any cables, and I said "Sure". He grabbed all the high end
Monster Cables, and said is there anything else. I said "Yeah, I'd
like the Acoustic Research versions of all the cables you just picked
for me". He tried to BS me into thinking that my new Yahama/Klipsch
system would only work on Monster Cable. Well, I looked at all the
boxes and saw no mention of "Monster Cable or equivlent required" on
any box. I told him that the system would run on Cat5 if I wanted it
to. He got all pissy, and I proceded to the front to pay.

I think a quality cable makes the system sound better, but $20 per
cable difference between the Monster Cables and Acoustic Research
cables is retarded.

Josh
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Re: [mythtv-users] Tivo-style "suggestions" now provided by TVWish

[Brad Templeton]

On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:08:56PM -0700, Brad Templeton wrote:
> I have done a preliminary implementation of a "suggestions" system
> in TVWish, the super-wishlist program for MythTV.   If you use
> or install TVWish, you can enter a couple of simple commands to make
> it generate a certain number of hours per day of suggested recordings,
> based on both tastes learned from past recordings, and more explicit
> tastes you describe in the file.


Just a follow-on note.  I've discovered that MythTV has some bugs about
handling the autoexpire number as a non-boolean.  Some parts of the program
treat it as an integer, some as a boolean.  I'm working on a patch to fix
this up (integer throughout except in the UI).  Until such time as that
patch is deployed, I put a special hack into tvwish that it scans for
any suggestions in your recordings which don't have a high autoexpire and
sets it high (unless it's zero, then it stays zero).   This will work
fine as long as you are not running super-tight on space.

However, most people should be able to use the program, as modified, just
fine, but should re-download.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Jean Connelly]

Regarding:
>  i'd
> *LOVE* to have this one:
> http://www.hometech.com/tools/coax.html#TH-IT1000 but just can't justify
> it for the few amount of times i'll be running RG-6 cable :(

I thought the same thing, so I picked up an IT1000.  Turns out that
terminating cable is always a pain even with good tools.  I still
can't get ends in which I feel confident.

Anybody good at folding back quad shield without getting braid
embedded in fingers?

-Jean
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Re: [mythtv-users] resurecting mythtv

[Jim Bauer]

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 13:37, Nick wrote:
> On 5/25/05, Jim Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had a disk fail in my mythtv box, so I am string to reinstall
> > everything. This also gave me an excuse to do some upgrades.
> >
> > I have a PVR350 and a GeForce MX440.
> > linux 2.6.11
> > mythtv 0.18 (backend and frontend all on one box)
> > ivtv 0.2.0-rc3j
> >
> > - I installed debian testing.  Upgraded to unstable.
> > - Installed the latest kernel and the ivtv driver.
> > - I was able (via dd) to get video so show up on
> > the TV (using the PVR's output).
> > - I got mythtv installed, and mythfilldatabase to run.
> > The program guide has stuff in it.
> > - I have not yet configured X for the TV display.
> >
> > I went through all the mythtv-setup stuff and the setup in mythfronted,
> > but I cannot watch live TV.  When I try, I just get the following
> > errors in the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log file.  They just keep
> > repeating till  I stop the backend.
>
> Jim,
>
> Have you got your sound system installed properly (ALSA/OSS) and are
> you using appropriate values for playback and mixer settings in
> frontend setup? The 350 card doesnt require a soundcard for  capture,
> but if MythTV can't use the sound setup this may cause it to fail.

Sound seems ok -- now.  Alsa in installed.  At first none of the mixers
would run (no such device) but I could play mp3s.  I reboot fix that.
I also found something I missed in the configuration.  I didn't tell it
my card was a PVR350.  That seems to help a bit, but

The front end said it was unable to "initialize video"  and after I exited
from the mythfrontend.  I did see a "IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument"
on the screen.

backend log file...

2005-05-25 16:27:03.792 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-05-25 16:27:03.808 New DB connection, total: 3
2005-05-25 16:27:04.307 New DB scheduler connection
2005-05-25 16:27:04.317 mythbackend version: 0.18.20050409-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-05-25 16:27:04.319 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
2005-05-25 16:27:06.316 Reschedule requested for id -1.
2005-05-25 16:27:06.706 Scheduled 0 items in 0.4 = 0.38 match + 0.01 place
2005-05-25 16:27:06.717 Seem to be woken up by USER
2005-05-25 16:27:16.088 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 16:27:16.090 adding: mythtv as a client (events: 0)
2005-05-25 16:27:16.134 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 16:27:16.135 adding: mythtv as a client (events: 1)
2005-05-25 16:27:16.145 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 16:27:16.154 adding: mythtv as a client (events: 0)
2005-05-25 16:27:16.179 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-05-25 16:27:16.180 adding: mythtv as a client (events: 0)
2005-05-25 16:27:16.189 adding: mythtv as a remote ringbuffer
2005-05-25 16:27:16.207 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2005-05-25 16:27:42.410 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None

The only other thing that looked like an error was a complaint about
'lirc_init failed'.  I hadn't bother doing anything with that yet (but the
SW is installed).
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RE: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Villalovos, John L]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <> wrote:
> If/when you do upgrade, consider re-terminating the basement
> work. One
> less-than-optimum termination can degrade the signal throughout the
> building. We use a Comsonics test unit to troubleshoot and optimize
> b-band cable for our customers. It's absolutely amazing how
> much the SNR
> and BER improve as poor quality terminations/splitters are
> replaced in
> the process.
> 
> If there is enough interest, I'll write up a howto on broadband cable
> residential distribution.

So what type of Comsonics tester do you use?

Just curious because I might be interested in trying to rent/borrow one
to test my cabling.

John
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Nokia web device -- ultimate Myth controller?

[Andrew Close]

On 5/25/05, A JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James, just curious as to what "Pluto" is and how your using it? Is
> Pluto a remote?

http://plutohome.com/

it uses MythTv...
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Nokia web device -- ultimate Myth controller?

[A JM]

James, just curious as to what "Pluto" is and how your using it? Is
Pluto a remote?

Thanks,

On 5/25/05, James Oltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a little more advanced.  It is more of a tablet PC.  And I agree,
> it would kick some butt if it could be a remote for Myth like the
> Pluto system has.
> 
> On 5/25/05, Tom Dombrosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This device looks pretty cool, but how is it different than a pocket
> > pc other than the fact that it's running linux (like the Zaurus)?
> >
> > Tom
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RE: [mythtv-users] IceTV has just announced support for aussie mythtv

[Dean Collins]

.And has anyone heard anything more about Foxtel going after the D1
or IceTV guys of the world for copyright of their content?

It seems to me that a Oztivo style solution where individual community
members are entering the data (eg non sue'able') is the way to go on
these matters.

Interesting point, I've just come back from an all day CableLabs
briefing (a more detailed report will be posted this evening) it's
amazing the differences between the USA and Australia in that tv guide
information is public domain and not able to be sued over but that the
method of display on the screen al la Gemstar patent was a major issue
(a figure of $250M was paid by Comcast to make that problem go away).


Cheers,
Dean


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phill Edwards
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 8:45 AM
> To: Chris Henderson; Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] IceTV has just announced support for
aussie
> mythtv
> 
> > IceTV has now expanded its range of compatible PVRs and Media
Centres
> > for iceguide, its 7 day Electronic Program Guide (EPG). iceguide is
> > now available for:
> >
> > * MythTV
> >
> > I know that you can do it for free but this has to be a good thing.
> 
> Has anyone subscribed to this and have any info on whether/how it's
> better than what we can currently get?
> 
> Regards,
> Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] GUI size and different TV playback size [feature request]

[Shaun Jackman]

On 5/20/05, Martin Ebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:00:59 -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote:
> > I'd like to configure a TV playback size that differs from the GUI
> > size. A GUI size of 640x440 offset by 40,24 compensates for the
> > overscan of my television. I want to use a TV playback size of 720x480
> > without an offset to avoid vertical scaling so that the interlacing
> > doesn't get messed up. You can set both to the same with "Use GUI size
> > for TV playback", but from what I see you can't set explicit values
> > for both.
> 
> If you untick the 'use gui size for tv playback' then tv will be full
> screen, based on what your current video mode is. Unless you've got rid of
> your G550 already, then presumably you are running in 720x480 resolution
> and you'll get the effect you want. That's how I do it with mine (but for
> PAL).

That worked for me up until MythTV 0.17. Starting with MythTV 0.18 if
I unticked the "Use GUI size for TV playback" it scaled the video
playback to the dimension of the first screen, 1600x1200, (I'm
guessing here based on the size of the video I'm seeing) even thought
the video's playing on the second screen, 720x480. I ticked "Use GUI
size for TV playback" as a work-around.

Cheers,
Shaun
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Nokia web device -- ultimate Myth controller?

[James Oltman]

It's a little more advanced.  It is more of a tablet PC.  And I agree,
it would kick some butt if it could be a remote for Myth like the
Pluto system has.

On 5/25/05, Tom Dombrosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This device looks pretty cool, but how is it different than a pocket
> pc other than the fact that it's running linux (like the Zaurus)?
> 
> Tom
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RE: [mythtv-users] Black screen after guide

[John Harvey]

It should be fixed in the CVS version of myth. The fix just missed 1.18.

John

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cenk Ozkan
> Sent: 25 May 2005 19:21
> To: 'Ian Trider'; 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Black screen after guide
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Trider
> Sent: 25 May 2005 19:16
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Black screen after guide
> 
> On 5/25/05, Cenk Ozkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is anyone else experiencing a black screen whilst watching live tv
> > then going into the guide and exiting ? Easy to fix by going back to
> > the main menu but it is just a nuisance.
> 
> PVR-350 output?
> 
> I have the same problem.  My understanding is that there is some sort of
> race condition generated when exiting the EPG guide.  Whether it is
> mythtv's
> fault or ivtv's fault I don't know, but you can get around it by pressing
> anything that generates text/graphics on the on-screen display (i.e. press
> the info or menu button again) and the video will reappear.
> 
> --
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Re: [mythtv-users] Bottom-end MythTv Suggestions

[Bob Cottingham]

Craig Betts wrote:
> I built out of an ASUS Pundit-S, $115 on new egg, and a Celeron-D
> processor, ~$70-80.  A little bit pricier than the other suggestions given,
> but the small case looks just like a DVD player, and Jarod's guide has
> specific instructions for the pundit.  I've been extremely pleased with it
> so far
>
Considering the Pundit includes a case and motherboard, it isn't really
any more expensive (unless you don't need a case of course), and is about
as cheap as you can reasonably create a system.

It may not have all the room you'd want for a frontend/backend system
though a lot of people seem to have been happy with it in that
configuration. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is only one IDE channel,
no SATA, so you can only fit one optical and one hard drive in the system
and installing a PVR-150/250/500 may require some time with a dremel to
get it to fit.

There seems to be a lot of variability on people's happiness with the
noise and quality of the video out from reading the list. Am I wrong in my
perception?

Bob C

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)]

Ryan A. Carris wrote:

Hang out at http://avsforum.com for a while and all of your questions
will be answered. I really enjoy reading the Audio Setup forum and the
Home Theater Builder Forum.  There are some amazingly knowledgeable
people there.


yah, did for a while, but dropped out, since i couldn't find a lot of 
answers to my more-htpc-on-linux-centric questions (which, thankfully, 
this mailinglist has answered nearly all of them!) .. will have to head 
back there again


-g-
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: RG-6 crimping question

[Ryan A. Carris]

On 5/25/05, gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> i have a number of monster products (component cable, banana clips,
> digital audio coax, etc) ... one of the things i really like about their
> stuff is the "girth" of the cable ...
> 
> but, you're not the first person i've heard say that monster cables are
> over-priced or not worth it (one of the people having their own very
> high-end home theatre company in KC) ... any brands you reccommend?
> 
> right now, i've got a mishmash of brands .. some RCA stuff for the
> lower-end, less-critical connections (VCR->TV, etc) .. monster for
> digital coax and component out from myth->tv .. Phillips for the rest,
> incl speaker wire .. can't rem which gage, but it's about 5-10x thicker
> than the original crap wire that came w/ the speakers (ironically, that
> original wire is now used to connect a doorbell to my garage door opener
> ... 'bout all it's suitable for, imho :P)
> 
> i've also heard many people that are big into the high-end home theatre
> stuff bash Best Buy and Circuit City as places to purchase componants,
> cables, etc ... anyone know why?  is it because BB pushes Monster cables
> on anyone that comes in?  other reasons?  just curious! :)
> 
> thanks!
> -g-

Hang out at http://avsforum.com for a while and all of your questions
will be answered. I really enjoy reading the Audio Setup forum and the
Home Theater Builder Forum.  There are some amazingly knowledgeable
people there.
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