Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Selection for backend

[Michael T. Dean]

Steve Adeff wrote:

there are very few nforce 4 boards with agp and 5x pci, and the ones that 
exist are expensive. I've recently been working on putting together a machine 
for 3x HD3000 cards and a PVR500. 
I've found newegg.com to be the best prices for the convenience of buying all 
in one place. I might be able to save ~$20 shopping around, but screw that...
Anyway, the best bang-for-buck for my needs is an nforce3 board for $70, and 
an Athlon64 3000. I've already got an AGP fx5200 so I'd basically get in for 
about $500, then get a nice HTPC case. I plan on buying a new 320gig SATA 
drives specificaly for MythTV as well (and prbly a few more to replace some 
aging and smaller ATA drives on my file server), they can be had for $140 w/ 
a 3yr warranty. 

I've currently got a an Athlon64 3200+ on an nForce4 board, it runs great and 
was a snap to get MythTV running, so as long as I can do the 3x HD3000 cards 
and get them working with a PVR500 I'll be good to go!


what I need to do is see if its worth it to rent a few more DCT6200 boxes from 
Comcast and use firewire instead of paying for the HD3000 cards. now that i 
think of it, I think it might be
 

If you're going to have that much junk, why waste money on an "HTPC 
case?"  Just get a case with plenty of room for good airflow and hard 
drives/capture cards and put the computer and the several DCT6200's and 
the 10+ miles of cables in another room.


No matter what people tell you, you can't make a stack of cable STB's, a 
computer (in any case), various UPS's, and all the wires required by the 
bunch look good sitting next to your TV.  On the other hand, if you put 
the mess in a different room and leave only a TV and speakers in your 
viewing room, you have a guest-friendly TV experience and never have to 
worry about fans on your power supply, CPU, video card, motherboard 
chipset, etc. detracting from the viewing experience.


Mike
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Dean Collins]

Kind of curious myself about how you are able to create from scratch and
not Microsoft?

I always assumed you had setup a sweet heart licensing deal with the
networks (or you were a partially owned consortium like Fly Buys).

Dean


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Andreassen
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:51 AM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
> > Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are
'trying'
> to
> > copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted
> data,
> > just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it
cannot
> be
> > copyrighted.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Daniel.
> >
> 
> How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like
Microsoft
> can't?
> 
> Paul
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Daniel Hall]

Microsoft seems to be interested in buying the guide data as opposed to
creating their own guide service from scratch (as we have). The networks
have not allowed MS to buy said data, hence no EPG for MCE from MS.

Cheers,

Daniel

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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
> Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
> copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
> just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot
be
> copyrighted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel.
>

How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like Microsoft
can't?

Paul
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Paul Andreassen]

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
> Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
> copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
> just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot be
> copyrighted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel.
>

How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like Microsoft can't?

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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Dean Collins]

Ok trying to 'assert' copyright, like I said, still yet to be proven in
case law.

Cheers,
Dean


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:21 AM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are
'trying' to
> copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted
data,
> just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it
cannot
> be
> copyrighted.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 2:40 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> Not entirely correct Daniel but yes you are right there are a number
of
> people trying to copyright program guide data as yet it hasn't been
> tested in the courts.
> 
> I know from an unofficial discussion with Foxtel that for them at
least
> this is a low priority issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
> > Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 PM
> > To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> > Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> >
> > In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as
the
> > stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use.
All
> of
> > the
> > online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against
> any
> > use
> > of the data in PVR's.
> >
> > As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme
> guide
> > data
> > in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Daniel
> > IceTV Support Team
> >
> > IceTV Pty Limited
> > Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
> > PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia
> >
> > ph: 1300 654 803
> > fax: 1300 654 208
> > www.icetv.com.au
> >
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Pullan
> > Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
> > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> >
> > On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in
> Regional
> > > > Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital.
> For
> > the
> > 1
> > >
> > > > 2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in
> Australia?
> > >
> > > No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
> >
> > Is that because
> > a) you don't have decent EIT information
> > b) we don't parse it correctly ?
> >
> > Regards
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[mythtv-users] Seattle Comcast firewire not working as of today -- 5C?

[Andy Alsup]

I have been using Comcast DCT-6200 w/ firewire since April sometime. 
I got all channels including premium, no problems.

Starting today, I am only able to capture analog channels, and
occasionally local HD.  I had Monday Night Football set to record, and
that failed.

I am wondering if they have thrown the big 5C switch.  Anyone else
that HAD firewire working in the Comcast Seattle market, but now its
not?

In the advanced menu  (power button, then ok/menu button)  under the
Interface Status section, there is a field: 5C implementation.  So
far, for channels that I can record, that field is 0, for channels
where recoding now fails it is 1.

Anyone else see this?

I haven't called Comcast yet to complain.  I will do that tomorrow,
but something tells me that won't get me anywhere.
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Daniel Hall]

Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot be
copyrighted.

Cheers,

Daniel.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 2:40 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

Not entirely correct Daniel but yes you are right there are a number of
people trying to copyright program guide data as yet it hasn't been
tested in the courts.

I know from an unofficial discussion with Foxtel that for them at least
this is a low priority issue.

Cheers,
Dean



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
> Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
> stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All
of
> the
> online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against
any
> use
> of the data in PVR's.
> 
> As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme
guide
> data
> in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> IceTV Support Team
> 
> IceTV Pty Limited
> Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
> PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia
> 
> ph: 1300 654 803
> fax: 1300 654 208
> www.icetv.com.au
> 
> CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential
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the
> intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Pullan
> Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in
Regional
> > > Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital.
For
> the
> 1
> >
> > > 2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in
Australia?
> >
> > No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
> 
> Is that because
> a) you don't have decent EIT information
> b) we don't parse it correctly ?
> 
> Regards
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[mythtv-users] Unable to watch live TV with PVR-350

[Boris Burtin]

I'm having some trouble getting live TV to work with
my MythTV setup (Fedora Core 4, PVR-350).  I followed
Jarod's guide and have things mostly working.  X11 is
running through the PVR-350's TV out.  When I try to
watch live TV, I see garbage (green and pink blocks
all over the screen).

Capture/playback from the command line seems to work:

# cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test_capture.mpg
# mplayer -vo x11 /tmp/test_capture.mpg

But if I run mplayer with "xv" instead of "x11"

# mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test_capture.mpg

I see the same static as when I try to watch live TV. 
So it sounds like something is wacky with my MythTV
configuration?  Is it passing the wrong args to
mplayer?

I'd appreciate any help.  Thanks,

Boris





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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[Steve Adeff]

On Tuesday 25 October 2005 00:26, David Bennett wrote:
> Matt, I am glad you brought this up.
> I assembled my own board and had no idea what was going on with those
> screws.
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but how should these be screwed? I am not sure
>
> what the following means:
> >Check to make sure all of the holes in the motherboard that
> > are metal lined are mounted with screws to the case, via those screws
> > that have the built in female end at the top.
>
> What is a built in female? There were only 4 screws and 4 "mounts" for
> lack of a better word... (perhaps this is the female.) I wasn't sure
> what went where so I just guessed.
>
> I guess I should make sure that all metal lined holes on the
> motherboard have a screw in them with a "mount" below it? I recall
> there being some metal rings as well and I couldn't figure out if
> those went in between the screw and the motherboard on top or on the
> bottom of the motherboard.
>
> This might explain why when I take apart my computer and put it back
> together it works for awhile...
>
> David

good call, I didn't even think of that, had that problem a LOOONG time ago, 
good lesson to learn, its one of those things you'll never let happen again.

as to the question about moving hardware over... yes, as long as linux 
supports the hardware and your not doing a major cpu change, moving the 
harddrive to all new hardware will work fine, I've done this a few times.

Steve
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Dean Collins]

Not entirely correct Daniel but yes you are right there are a number of
people trying to copyright program guide data as yet it hasn't been
tested in the courts.

I know from an unofficial discussion with Foxtel that for them at least
this is a low priority issue.

Cheers,
Dean



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
> Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
> stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All
of
> the
> online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against
any
> use
> of the data in PVR's.
> 
> As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme
guide
> data
> in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> IceTV Support Team
> 
> IceTV Pty Limited
> Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
> PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia
> 
> ph: 1300 654 803
> fax: 1300 654 208
> www.icetv.com.au
> 
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information
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the
> intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Pullan
> Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
> 
> On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in
Regional
> > > Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital.
For
> the
> 1
> >
> > > 2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in
Australia?
> >
> > No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
> 
> Is that because
> a) you don't have decent EIT information
> b) we don't parse it correctly ?
> 
> Regards
> --
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[chris]

On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 01:26:20PM +0900, David Bennett wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance, but how should these be screwed? I am not sure

What he's talking about are the hexagonal brass stand-offs that have a
threaded pin on one end and a threaded socket on the other.  You're
supposed to screw them into the backplane of the case and then mount the
mobo to them using screws that pass through holes in the mobo.  Most
people go through a whole lot of effort to get the little red paper
insulators to stay on top of the brass socket when they install the
mobo, not knowing that the mobo is *supposed* to make an electrical
connection with those brass bits and ground the board to the case.

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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[David Bennett]

Matt, I am glad you brought this up.
I assembled my own board and had no idea what was going on with those screws.

Excuse my ignorance, but how should these be screwed? I am not sure
what the following means:

>Check to make sure all of the holes in the motherboard that
> are metal lined are mounted with screws to the case, via those screws that
> have the built in female end at the top.

What is a built in female? There were only 4 screws and 4 "mounts" for
lack of a better word... (perhaps this is the female.) I wasn't sure
what went where so I just guessed.

I guess I should make sure that all metal lined holes on the
motherboard have a screw in them with a "mount" below it? I recall
there being some metal rings as well and I couldn't figure out if
those went in between the screw and the motherboard on top or on the
bottom of the motherboard.

This might explain why when I take apart my computer and put it back
together it works for awhile...

David
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[David Bennett]

That is interesting to hear... I wonder if maybe I should change the
Gigabyte board as well?

I don't know much about Linux, but if I just take everything off my
board (memory, cpu, disks everything) and plunk it into a new
computer, will it work? I am currently running FC4.

Oh no, am I going to have to reconfigure MythTV!??!

David


On 10/25/05, Jon Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had a gigabyte board and the same problem, I thought it was the power
> supply but I put a new one in and still the same problem. My son said it
> was the RAM but I just retired the box rather than continue trying to
> troubleshoot it. Seems strange that you have a gigabyte and I did too
> and you are experiencing the same problem as I did.
>
> Anyone else have a gigabyte board and run into weird power issues?
>
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[mythtv-users] OpenGL trouble

[Dave]

I'm having trouble getting Myth 18.1 to run with OpenGL VSync enabled.
 My frontend log shows RTC timing method.  I've tried:
1. Recompiling (a few times) with the option enabled,
2. Looked in Myth setup for the enable flag (didn't see it)
3. Couldn't find anything in the settings table reffering to OpenGL

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks
Dave
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Re: [mythtv-users] cx88 comments in dmesg with HD3000

[Steve Adeff]

On Tuesday 25 October 2005 00:02, Simpson, Richard wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Adeff
> >
> > I was wondering if any others with the HD3000 card see these
> > in their dmesg
> > log?
> >
> > cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> > cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> > cx88[0]/2: [81003090f600/20] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
> > cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> > cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> > cx88[0]/2: [810003b35c00/4] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
> > cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> > cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> > cx88[0]/2: [810021a26400/2] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> > cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> > cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
>
> Yes. Looking at the mythbackend.log, they correspond to changing the
> channel (explaining some of that mysterious 4 second time delay).
>
> Richard.


interesting. figured I'd ask, haven't had any issues, but just found it 
curious. thanks!

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[Matt Mossholder]

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 19:53 -0800, Jon Reynolds wrote:


David Bennett wrote:
> I am getting completely frustrated and am hoping someone has some
> suggestions. This might be Linux related, but I have a feeling it is
> hardware, tell me what you think. (A while back I posted about my
> Linux system crashing, here is where we are at:)
> 


...


> 
> Has anyone encoutered anything like this?
> Any ideas?

I had a gigabyte board and the same problem, I thought it was the power 
supply but I put a new one in and still the same problem. My son said it 
was the RAM but I just retired the box rather than continue trying to 
troubleshoot it. Seems strange that you have a gigabyte and I did too 
and you are experiencing the same problem as I did.

Anyone else have a gigabyte board and run into weird power issues?

Jon



Sounds like a grounding problem. Heat expansion can make things short out in weird ways.  Check to make sure all of the holes in the motherboard that are metal lined are mounted with screws to the case, via those screws that have the built in female end at the top. They really need to cover this better in the manuals


    --Matt


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RE: [mythtv-users] cx88 comments in dmesg with HD3000

[Simpson, Richard]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Adeff
> 
> I was wondering if any others with the HD3000 card see these 
> in their dmesg 
> log?
> 
> cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> cx88[0]/2: [81003090f600/20] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
> cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> cx88[0]/2: [810003b35c00/4] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
> cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> cx88[0]/2: [810021a26400/2] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
> cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
> cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
> 
Yes. Looking at the mythbackend.log, they correspond to changing the channel 
(explaining some of that mysterious 4 second time delay).

Richard.
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[Jon Reynolds]

David Bennett wrote:

I am getting completely frustrated and am hoping someone has some
suggestions. This might be Linux related, but I have a feeling it is
hardware, tell me what you think. (A while back I posted about my
Linux system crashing, here is where we are at:)

I am running a Gigabye Motherboard with Fedora Core 4. Every once in
awhile the computer shuts down. Not fully (I still get LED lights) but
all the fans, hard drives stop running. Funny thing is I can't power
down with a long power, and sometimes even when I pill out the plug it
doesn't turn on. I just get the light and no spinning.

After fiddling with the motherboard, moving things around etc I can
get it back on again. It could be 5 minutes, it could be 2 weeks, but
eventually the problem returns.

I have tried removing memory, adding memory, changing slots,
reinserting everything, taking out one PCI card at a time (TV tuner
and a WinModem) but it doesn't make a difference.

Power isn't copletely off but nothing spins. Stays like that for awhile.

Has anyone encoutered anything like this?
Any ideas?


I had a gigabyte board and the same problem, I thought it was the power 
supply but I put a new one in and still the same problem. My son said it 
was the RAM but I just retired the box rather than continue trying to 
troubleshoot it. Seems strange that you have a gigabyte and I did too 
and you are experiencing the same problem as I did.


Anyone else have a gigabyte board and run into weird power issues?

Jon
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD Frontend hardware: cases for enclosed spaces

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 23:12, Sean Cier wrote:
> I'm finally chucking the wretched XBox that has served as my living room
> frontend for far too long, and building a proper machine.  I want HDTV
> support (only have an SDTV there at the moment, and no HD sources, but the
> latter will hopefully change before long, and the former will undoubtedly
> be replaced some day).  That means a hefty processor; I'm planning on going
> Athlon 64.  I'll have a hard drive just to avoid the headaches of remote
> boot, but it'll spin down and presumably not be a factor heat-wise.
>
> The catch is, I want to put this in my armoire-style TV cabinet.  That
> means either:
> -- in a shelf under/over the TV (~5" high X 27" wide x 20" deep, but a case
> must be no more than 4.2" high to actually be able to get it in there),
> which is open on the front but enclosed on the sides/rear/top/bottom, or
> -- in the cabinet area, in which case it'd have a whole half of the cabinet
> to itself (17"w x 19"h x 21" deep), but apart from a 1" vertical
> wire-access slit in the rear, the doors will be closed and it'll be
> completely enclosed effectively 24/7.
>
> So, I see three options.  I'd love advice, feedback, anecdotes,
> what-have-you about which will most likely work without fear of
> overheating, and give me the least grief from a stability, functionality,
> future lifetime (e.g. replacable parts), and
> compatibility/standard-hardware standpoint (I want to be able to use
> modules from ATRPMS as much as possible, like my other boxes, not spend
> hours patching it every way from Tuesday just to get something to maybe run
> briefly on Thursday mornings when Saturn is ascendant).
>
> -- Slim desktop-style case, ala Minuet or Pundit-R (these *can* work
> horizontally, right?).  Seems like if the vents are in the right places and
> the case has pretty good
> -- Cube-style SFF case in the cabinet, ala Antec Aria (I've been happy with
> Antec cases in the past) or Shuttle.  Seems like the small case, with
> clearance on the sides *and* top, would give a shot at better airflow.
> -- ATX-sized desktop case in the cabinet, ala Cooler Master 620 (which I'm
> using happily for another frontend), Ahanix D.Vine, Silverstone, NMediaPC,
> etc.  If the lack of edge clearance (the cabinet is only 17" wide) isn't an
> issue from an airflow standpoint, this would be a lot easier to deal with
> than a shuttle-style SFF case.
> -- Say screw it and put a run-of-the-mill mini-tower in the cabinet.
> Wouldn't look as sexy as the other solutions, but definitely the easiest,
> and *probably* would have the best airflow overall; and hey, it'd be behind
> doors usually.
>
> With no tuners and such, the hardware demands are relatively light and I
> never anticipate them growing too far (though perhaps evolving with new
> video cards, new processors, etc someday) -- but I want something solid
> that isn't going to give me grief, and something that'll last a while
> without going completely obsolete.  And, I want *full* Myth
> PVR/music/DVD/video functionality -- no embedded hardware that'll only do
> half of what my other frontends will.
>
> I'm not too concerned with absolute silence in this location, though I of
> course don't want an absolute jet engine either.  I'm only concerned with
> appearance if I use one of the shelves rather than the cabinet, though I'll
> go for a decent HTPC-style appearance either way rather than a drab 1990
> beige.
>
> -spc


this is exactly what I'm doing!! I finally want full HDTV support and the xbox 
just can't do it.

Here's my saved shopping cart at Newegg:

$146.00 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939
$83.99  REFURBISHED: MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce3 
Ultra ATX 
AMD Motherboard - OEM
$40.99  CORSAIR ValueSelect 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) 
Unbuffered System Memory Model VS512MB400 - Retail
$138.00 Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 500
$269.99 SILVERSTONE SST-LC16S-M Silver
$74.50  SILVERSTONE SST-ST46F ATX 460W Power Supply
$131.50 Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200JD 320GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 
(might get a couple, need to replace some older drives as well)

I chose the MSI cause I want a 5xPCI 1xAGP with SATA support with the ACL655 
chipset with optical/coax digital output. I've already got a spare AGP fx5200 
so I don't need that. the CPU is enough to watch HD and I have a Athlon64 
3200+ on my file server for all my transcoding needs.
I chose the Silverstone case cause its got an LCD+IR that work with lcdproc 
and irman, has support to hold 4 harddrives and a DVD drive. They're well 
built and it looks really nice. I wanted to get their silent fan-less power 
supply, but at $150 I can live, I'm in Boston, so city noise is more of a 
concern than the powersupply.

I planned on getting a few more HD3000 cards (already have one), but I think I 
might rent a couple more DCT6200 cable boxes from my cable company instead. I 
can record

Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Carl Fongheiser]

On 10/24/05, Scott Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carl Fongheiser wrote:> On 10/24/05, *Scott Carr* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:>
> >> I have already modified mythfilldatabase to work with 5.0.  Adding> ` to> repeat worked fine.  Just this annoying 'MySQL server has gone away'> message that I am having to restart MythBackend for.
>>> Is that *all* that is in your backend log?  There's got to be> something more there.  For one thing, that particular message doesn't> come from MythTV.  It's nowhere in the source, as of 
0.18.1, at least.>> Carl FongheiserIt is a message from MySQL itself.  It is not due to the 8 hour timelimit, because it happens at various times.<
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/gone-away.html>
Even so, there's nothing else in your backend log?  Anything else you can provide will help us help you.

Carl Fongheiser 

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Scott Carr]

Carl Fongheiser wrote:

On 10/24/05, *Scott Carr* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


>
I have already modified mythfilldatabase to work with 5.0.  Adding
` to
repeat worked fine.  Just this annoying 'MySQL server has gone away'
message that I am having to restart MythBackend for.


Is that *all* that is in your backend log?  There's got to be 
something more there.  For one thing, that particular message doesn't 
come from MythTV.  It's nowhere in the source, as of 0.18.1, at least.



A snippet from my LOG is attached.



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DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (KickDatabase):
Query was:
SELECT NULL;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away

DB Error (CheckTooMany):
Query was:
SELECT recordid,title,maxepisodes,maxnewest FROM record;
Driver error was [2/2006]:
QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
Database error was:
MySQL server has gone away
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Scott Carr]

Carl Fongheiser wrote:

On 10/24/05, *Scott Carr* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


>
I have already modified mythfilldatabase to work with 5.0.  Adding
` to
repeat worked fine.  Just this annoying 'MySQL server has gone away'
message that I am having to restart MythBackend for.


Is that *all* that is in your backend log?  There's got to be 
something more there.  For one thing, that particular message doesn't 
come from MythTV.  It's nowhere in the source, as of 0.18.1, at least.


Carl Fongheiser


It is a message from MySQL itself.  It is not due to the 8 hour time 
limit, because it happens at various times.




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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Carl Fongheiser]

On 10/24/05, Scott Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have already modified mythfilldatabase to work with 5.0.  Adding ` torepeat worked fine.  Just this annoying 'MySQL server has gone away'message that I am having to restart MythBackend for.

Is that *all* that is in your backend log?  There's got to be
something more there.  For one thing, that particular message
doesn't come from MythTV.  It's nowhere in the source, as of
0.18.1, at least.

Carl Fongheiser

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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 23:05, David Bennett wrote:
> I am getting completely frustrated and am hoping someone has some
> suggestions. This might be Linux related, but I have a feeling it is
> hardware, tell me what you think. (A while back I posted about my
> Linux system crashing, here is where we are at:)
>
> I am running a Gigabye Motherboard with Fedora Core 4. Every once in
> awhile the computer shuts down. Not fully (I still get LED lights) but
> all the fans, hard drives stop running. Funny thing is I can't power
> down with a long power, and sometimes even when I pill out the plug it
> doesn't turn on. I just get the light and no spinning.
>
> After fiddling with the motherboard, moving things around etc I can
> get it back on again. It could be 5 minutes, it could be 2 weeks, but
> eventually the problem returns.
>
> I have tried removing memory, adding memory, changing slots,
> reinserting everything, taking out one PCI card at a time (TV tuner
> and a WinModem) but it doesn't make a difference.
>
> Power isn't copletely off but nothing spins. Stays like that for awhile.
>
> Has anyone encoutered anything like this?
> Any ideas?
>
> Sorry for the trouble.
> David Bennett
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I had a similar issue and it was due to a dieing power supply, it wasn't able 
to feed the required 5V current anymore. I replaced it with a new one 
(actually it was still under warranty, so it was free) and my problems were 
sovled.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Selection for backend

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 22:28, Robert Denier wrote:
> Is some of the transcoding done on the backend?  I haven't checked where
> it is being done yet..
>
> At any rate if the backend does transcoding then springing for a decent
> cpu, especially if a substantially better one is say $20 or so is
> probably worthwhile.  Basically I'd look at prices if your buying new.
> Sometimes spending only a tiny amount more can get a signifcantly better
> cpu, and who knows if you will be using that machine for myth forever..
>
> A quick glance at pricewatch shows
> athlon xp 2600 333 $66
>xp 2700 333 $72
>xp 1600 $49
>
> athlon 64 3000 $119  (It might be worthwhile going 64 bit if your going
> for brand new equipment,  but it is a tossup I guess.)
>
> I suppose also, if your running it continually, the cost of providing
> energy should factor in over the lifetime of the unit, but I couldn't
> begin to estimate how that would effect the long term cost.
>
> I do think the nforce recommendation is a good one.  I remember some
> posts about via? being less than ideal for the hauppage pvr cards.  I'm
> using an nforce 2 board I think cost about $50 from newegg.  On the
> other hand, there is probably no reason to go nforce 4, so nforce 2 or 3
> is likely good.
>
> Of course if you have something older that will work so you don't have
> to buy anything then the solution is simple.
>
> Good luck..
> -Robert
>
> On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 20:47 -0400, Steve Adeff wrote:
> > On Monday 24 October 2005 20:18, Jon Solomon wrote:
> > > I am building my first Mythtv Backend from scratch. I plan on using 3
> > > Hauppauge PVR 500's to record 4-6 stearms at time. My question is how
> > > fast of a processor and how much ram should I get? Which Motherboard
> > > would you recommend that have little or no issues with the PVR 500s and
> > > SATA HD?
> > >
> > > Thanks I advanced for the help.
> >
> > CPU speed won't matter much, so if you've got an old P3-ish system use
> > that. If you want to build a new computer, look for an nForce3 based
> > board with pci and agp and SATA. get the cheapest cpu you can find or the
> > board and 512megs of ram. It'll be an Athlon of some sort so it'll be
> > fast enough.
> >
> > Steve


there are very few nforce 4 boards with agp and 5x pci, and the ones that 
exist are expensive. I've recently been working on putting together a machine 
for 3x HD3000 cards and a PVR500. 
I've found newegg.com to be the best prices for the convenience of buying all 
in one place. I might be able to save ~$20 shopping around, but screw that...
Anyway, the best bang-for-buck for my needs is an nforce3 board for $70, and 
an Athlon64 3000. I've already got an AGP fx5200 so I'd basically get in for 
about $500, then get a nice HTPC case. I plan on buying a new 320gig SATA 
drives specificaly for MythTV as well (and prbly a few more to replace some 
aging and smaller ATA drives on my file server), they can be had for $140 w/ 
a 3yr warranty. 

I've currently got a an Athlon64 3200+ on an nForce4 board, it runs great and 
was a snap to get MythTV running, so as long as I can do the 3x HD3000 cards 
and get them working with a PVR500 I'll be good to go!

what I need to do is see if its worth it to rent a few more DCT6200 boxes from 
Comcast and use firewire instead of paying for the HD3000 cards. now that i 
think of it, I think it might be


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Scott Carr]

Carl Fongheiser wrote:

On 10/24/05, *Scott Carr* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



I thought I saw on the list where some people were using
5.0?  Yes, this
is a 5.0 install.  It was disappearing before I changed it to 5.0
though.


I don't know what's going on without more detail, but if you hunt 
around in the list archives for the last couple days, you'll find that 
a patch is needed to make mythtv compatible with MySQL 5.0.


Carl Fongheiser

I have already modified mythfilldatabase to work with 5.0.  Adding ` to 
repeat worked fine.  Just this annoying 'MySQL server has gone away' 
message that I am having to restart MythBackend for.


I am running the following:

MythTV:  0.18.1
MySQL:  5.0.12
OS: Gentoo Linux
Capture:  PVR-150
Driver:  ivtv-0.3.7b

Anything else needed?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Can't run mythfrontend

[Byron Poland]

On 10/24/05, Brian Wallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For some reason mythfrontend will not connect to my backend's mysql
> database.  Mythweb works like a charm, but not mythfrontend.  From the
> frontend I can access the backend with the command mysql -hIP_ADDRESS
> -umythtv -pmythtv.  But when I start mythfrontend I get this error message.
>
> QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
> QSqlDatabase: available drivers:
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.993 New DB connection, total: 1
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.993 Unable to connect to database!
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 Unable to connect to database!
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 Database not open while trying to load setting:
> GuiVidModeResolution
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 Unable to connect to database!
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 Database not open while trying to load setting:
> GuiVidModeWidth
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 Unable to connect to database!
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 Database not open while trying to load setting:
> GuiVidModeHeight
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.996 Unable to connect to database!
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.996 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
> 2005-10-24 23:07:32.996 Database not open while trying to load setting:
> DisplaySizeResolution
>
>
> This goes on forever.  What can be the problem?
>
>
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I think you need to install the qt bindings for mysql.  libmysql-qt or
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[mythtv-users] HD Frontend hardware: cases for enclosed spaces

[Sean Cier]

I'm finally chucking the wretched XBox that has served as my living room 
frontend for far too long, and building a proper machine.  I want HDTV 
support (only have an SDTV there at the moment, and no HD sources, but the 
latter will hopefully change before long, and the former will undoubtedly be 
replaced some day).  That means a hefty processor; I'm planning on going 
Athlon 64.  I'll have a hard drive just to avoid the headaches of remote 
boot, but it'll spin down and presumably not be a factor heat-wise.


The catch is, I want to put this in my armoire-style TV cabinet.  That means 
either:
-- in a shelf under/over the TV (~5" high X 27" wide x 20" deep, but a case 
must be no more than 4.2" high to actually be able to get it in there), 
which is open on the front but enclosed on the sides/rear/top/bottom, or
-- in the cabinet area, in which case it'd have a whole half of the cabinet 
to itself (17"w x 19"h x 21" deep), but apart from a 1" vertical wire-access 
slit in the rear, the doors will be closed and it'll be completely enclosed 
effectively 24/7.


So, I see three options.  I'd love advice, feedback, anecdotes, 
what-have-you about which will most likely work without fear of overheating, 
and give me the least grief from a stability, functionality, future lifetime 
(e.g. replacable parts), and compatibility/standard-hardware standpoint (I 
want to be able to use modules from ATRPMS as much as possible, like my 
other boxes, not spend hours patching it every way from Tuesday just to get 
something to maybe run briefly on Thursday mornings when Saturn is ascendant).


-- Slim desktop-style case, ala Minuet or Pundit-R (these *can* work 
horizontally, right?).  Seems like if the vents are in the right places and 
the case has pretty good
-- Cube-style SFF case in the cabinet, ala Antec Aria (I've been happy with 
Antec cases in the past) or Shuttle.  Seems like the small case, with 
clearance on the sides *and* top, would give a shot at better airflow.
-- ATX-sized desktop case in the cabinet, ala Cooler Master 620 (which I'm 
using happily for another frontend), Ahanix D.Vine, Silverstone, NMediaPC, 
etc.  If the lack of edge clearance (the cabinet is only 17" wide) isn't an 
issue from an airflow standpoint, this would be a lot easier to deal with 
than a shuttle-style SFF case.
-- Say screw it and put a run-of-the-mill mini-tower in the cabinet. 
Wouldn't look as sexy as the other solutions, but definitely the easiest, 
and *probably* would have the best airflow overall; and hey, it'd be behind 
doors usually.


With no tuners and such, the hardware demands are relatively light and I 
never anticipate them growing too far (though perhaps evolving with new 
video cards, new processors, etc someday) -- but I want something solid that 
isn't going to give me grief, and something that'll last a while without 
going completely obsolete.  And, I want *full* Myth PVR/music/DVD/video 
functionality -- no embedded hardware that'll only do half of what my other 
frontends will.


I'm not too concerned with absolute silence in this location, though I of 
course don't want an absolute jet engine either.  I'm only concerned with 
appearance if I use one of the shelves rather than the cabinet, though I'll 
go for a decent HTPC-style appearance either way rather than a drab 1990 beige.


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[mythtv-users] Can't run mythfrontend

[Brian Wallen]

For some reason mythfrontend will not connect to my backend's mysql 
database.  Mythweb works like a charm, but not mythfrontend.  From the 
frontend I can access the backend with the command mysql -hIP_ADDRESS 
-umythtv -pmythtv.  But when I start mythfrontend I get this error message.


QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
QSqlDatabase: available drivers:
2005-10-24 23:07:32.993 New DB connection, total: 1
2005-10-24 23:07:32.993 Unable to connect to database!
2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 Unable to connect to database!
2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 Database not open while trying to load setting: 
GuiVidModeResolution

2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 Unable to connect to database!
2005-10-24 23:07:32.994 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 Database not open while trying to load setting: 
GuiVidModeWidth

2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 Unable to connect to database!
2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
2005-10-24 23:07:32.995 Database not open while trying to load setting: 
GuiVidModeHeight

2005-10-24 23:07:32.996 Unable to connect to database!
2005-10-24 23:07:32.996 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
2005-10-24 23:07:32.996 Database not open while trying to load setting: 
DisplaySizeResolution



This goes on forever.  What can be the problem?


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Carl Fongheiser]

On 10/24/05, Scott Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I thought I saw on the list where some people were using 5.0?  Yes, thisis a 5.0 install.  It was disappearing before I changed it to 5.0 though.
I don't know what's going on without more detail, but if you hunt
around in the list archives for the last couple days, you'll find that
a patch is needed to make mythtv compatible with MySQL 5.0.

Carl Fongheiser


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[mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[David Bennett]

I am getting completely frustrated and am hoping someone has some
suggestions. This might be Linux related, but I have a feeling it is
hardware, tell me what you think. (A while back I posted about my
Linux system crashing, here is where we are at:)

I am running a Gigabye Motherboard with Fedora Core 4. Every once in
awhile the computer shuts down. Not fully (I still get LED lights) but
all the fans, hard drives stop running. Funny thing is I can't power
down with a long power, and sometimes even when I pill out the plug it
doesn't turn on. I just get the light and no spinning.

After fiddling with the motherboard, moving things around etc I can
get it back on again. It could be 5 minutes, it could be 2 weeks, but
eventually the problem returns.

I have tried removing memory, adding memory, changing slots,
reinserting everything, taking out one PCI card at a time (TV tuner
and a WinModem) but it doesn't make a difference.

Power isn't copletely off but nothing spins. Stays like that for awhile.

Has anyone encoutered anything like this?
Any ideas?

Sorry for the trouble.
David Bennett
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Re: Transcode to DVD-compatible MPEG-2 without quality loss?

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 22:25, Mike Frisch wrote:
> On Mon, October 24, 2005 4:44 pm, Steve Adeff said:
> > I've used the latest version of ProjectX on my QAM recordings through my
> > HD3000. When I play them back through mplayer the sync is fine. ProjectX
>
> You da man, Steve!  PX seems to be working for me.  At least I am able to
> demux the recorded .nuv file and remux with 'mplex'.  I haven't tried
> playing the DVD in a player, but the audio and video are in sync in the
> remuxed file.
>
> I haven't yet tried to cut commercials though.
>
> > I would like to know if you get this working with your PVR card though, I
> > plan
> > on writing a how-to for the avidemux2 documentation and if I know the PVR
> > output works with the process I can put that info in.
>
> I haven't tried avidemux2 yet but I will and let you know.
>
> So far, so good...  thanks for your help!  Finally something is working to
> my satisfaction!


no prob!

the only caveat is lately I've noticed lots of audio sync problems with 
avidemux2, some I've figured out, they're due to mixed progressive and 
telecine being used, but some I just don't get. I need to see if mencoder 
requires the ProjectX step or not (I think the mplayer demuxer is able to 
handle the file without the need though), but i think I might be passing all 
my recordings through mencoder for processing (ivtc, crop, resize), save as a 
huffyuv and then open in avidemux2 for commercial cutting and final encode. 

Which is kinda nice, cause I think one can then setup MythTV to automatically 
run the mencoder part right after recording(or during? i haven't looked into 
this part of MythTV yet), with custom settings for the show in question for 
the shows I want to backup, then take the huffYUV file and edit in avidemux2.
It'll require a bit more storage space, but it will solve the avidemux2 sync 
issue everytime and if I can get mencode to run during the recording on the 
file I'd end up saving time overall in my process.

Can MythTV run these transcode processes while its still recording? if not, no 
big deal, I can't do the mencoder process in real-time, so I can manually 
start it a few minutes after the show starts and it would be ready about 
30mins after it ends.

Can anyone give me some pointers here?

Steve
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

[Daniel Hall]

In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All of the
online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against any use
of the data in PVR's.

As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme guide data
in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.

Cheers,

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Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in Regional
> > Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital. For the
1
>
> > 2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in Australia?
>
> No, I don't believe it works in Oz.

Is that because
a) you don't have decent EIT information
b) we don't parse it correctly ?

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Scott Carr]

Comments inline.

Carl Fongheiser wrote:

On 10/24/05, *Scott Carr* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I have been having a really weird issue.  MythBackend is still
running,
but when I go into MythFrontend and go into Upcoming Recordings it
says
Nothing is Scheduled.

If I stop MythBackend, and restart it, all of the shows are then
back in
the Upcoming Recordings list.

It is like something is erroring out on one of the SQL statements or
something.

How would I go about figureing out what is happening with this?



Scott,

Start by looking at the mythbackend logfile.  On my systems, it's 
/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, but it might be somewhere else on 
your system.


I am seeing 'MySQL server has gone away'.



Also, what version of MySQL are you running?  The current release of 
MythTV is not compatible with the brand new 5.0 release of MySQL .


I thought I saw on the list where some people were using 5.0?  Yes, this 
is a 5.0 install.  It was disappearing before I changed it to 5.0 though.




Carl Fongheiser


Thanks for the quick response.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Selection for backend

[Robert Denier]

Is some of the transcoding done on the backend?  I haven't checked where
it is being done yet..

At any rate if the backend does transcoding then springing for a decent
cpu, especially if a substantially better one is say $20 or so is
probably worthwhile.  Basically I'd look at prices if your buying new.
Sometimes spending only a tiny amount more can get a signifcantly better
cpu, and who knows if you will be using that machine for myth forever.. 

A quick glance at pricewatch shows 
athlon xp 2600 333 $66
   xp 2700 333 $72
   xp 1600 $49

athlon 64 3000 $119  (It might be worthwhile going 64 bit if your going
for brand new equipment,  but it is a tossup I guess.)

I suppose also, if your running it continually, the cost of providing
energy should factor in over the lifetime of the unit, but I couldn't
begin to estimate how that would effect the long term cost.

I do think the nforce recommendation is a good one.  I remember some
posts about via? being less than ideal for the hauppage pvr cards.  I'm
using an nforce 2 board I think cost about $50 from newegg.  On the
other hand, there is probably no reason to go nforce 4, so nforce 2 or 3
is likely good.

Of course if you have something older that will work so you don't have
to buy anything then the solution is simple.

Good luck..
-Robert



On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 20:47 -0400, Steve Adeff wrote:
> On Monday 24 October 2005 20:18, Jon Solomon wrote:
> > I am building my first Mythtv Backend from scratch. I plan on using 3
> > Hauppauge PVR 500's to record 4-6 stearms at time. My question is how fast
> > of a processor and how much ram should I get? Which Motherboard would you
> > recommend that have little or no issues with the PVR 500s and SATA HD?
> >
> > Thanks I advanced for the help.
> 
> CPU speed won't matter much, so if you've got an old P3-ish system use that. 
> If you want to build a new computer, look for an nForce3 based board with pci 
> and agp and SATA. get the cheapest cpu you can find or the board and 512megs 
> of ram. It'll be an Athlon of some sort so it'll be fast enough.
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Re: Transcode to DVD-compatible MPEG-2 without quality loss?

[Mike Frisch]

On Mon, October 24, 2005 4:44 pm, Steve Adeff said:
> I've used the latest version of ProjectX on my QAM recordings through my
> HD3000. When I play them back through mplayer the sync is fine. ProjectX

You da man, Steve!  PX seems to be working for me.  At least I am able to
demux the recorded .nuv file and remux with 'mplex'.  I haven't tried
playing the DVD in a player, but the audio and video are in sync in the
remuxed file.

I haven't yet tried to cut commercials though.

> I would like to know if you get this working with your PVR card though, I
> plan
> on writing a how-to for the avidemux2 documentation and if I know the PVR
> output works with the process I can put that info in.

I haven't tried avidemux2 yet but I will and let you know.

So far, so good...  thanks for your help!  Finally something is working to
my satisfaction!

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[mythtv-users] compile myth for x86_64?

[Kris Hartojo]

Perhaps this is related: http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=627

K.








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[mythtv-users] cx88 comments in dmesg with HD3000

[Steve Adeff]

I was wondering if any others with the HD3000 card see these in their dmesg 
log?

cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
cx88[0]/2: [81003090f600/20] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
cx88[0]/2: [810003b35c00/4] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty
cx88[0]/2: queue is empty - first active
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
cx88[0]/2: [810021a26400/2] cx8802_buf_queue - first active
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_start_dma 752
cx88[0]/2: setting the interrupt mask
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue
cx88[0]/2: cx8802_restart_queue: queue is empty


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Carl Fongheiser]

On 10/24/05, Scott Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have been having a really weird issue.  MythBackend is still running,but when I go into MythFrontend and go into Upcoming Recordings it saysNothing is Scheduled.If I stop MythBackend, and restart it, all of the shows are then back in
the Upcoming Recordings list.It is like something is erroring out on one of the SQL statements orsomething.How would I go about figureing out what is happening with this?

Scott,

Start by looking at the mythbackend logfile.  On my systems, it's
/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, but it might be somewhere else on your
system.

Also, what version of MySQL are you running?  The current release
of MythTV is not compatible with the brand new 5.0 release of MySQL .

Carl Fongheiser

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[mythtv-users] MythBackend - There but nobodies home

[Scott Carr]

I have been having a really weird issue.  MythBackend is still running, 
but when I go into MythFrontend and go into Upcoming Recordings it says 
Nothing is Scheduled.


If I stop MythBackend, and restart it, all of the shows are then back in 
the Upcoming Recordings list.


It is like something is erroring out on one of the SQL statements or 
something.


How would I go about figureing out what is happening with this?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Possible to use only MythDVD?

[Dan Brow]

My build test bed has no tuner card in it and everything is working,
video play back, music.

just type mythfrontend mythdvd and presto just the dvd plugin.

Dan.

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:44 -0700, Mark Elrod wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I am trying to setup a Myth system that only uses MythDVD to archive
> my DVDs. I am not interested in the PVR side of things. The setup
> seems to not like the fact that I do not have a tuner card. Is there
> any way to just run the DVD portion of Myth?
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[mythtv-users] Recording from VHS

[Gary Montalbine]

When playing back recordings from VHS tapes, there is garbage across the 
bottom. A search of the archives indicates that it may be scan lines 
from the VHS and it was recommended that the crop filter be used. I am 
using a PVR 250 card which I understand uses hardware encoding. MPEG2. 
The instruction for video filters indicates that the crop filter can not 
be used for hardware encoding cards.


I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to get rid of the 
garbage. Can the crop tool be used? If so, how is it installed?


Gary
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Re: [mythtv-users] recordings will not play as not root user

[jondz]

x = cd to that directory (if i remember correctly)
r = read the directory (including listing the contents)

its better to set-gid it (chmod g+s) to some group (mythtv?)
and then add yourself to the group.  group +s will force
all files created in the directory to be on the same group
as the directory's group.  Mine is set up as

drwxrws---  10 mythtv mythtv 4096 2005-10-20 04:09 /video

jondz

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 19:35 -0500, Brandon Gracyalny wrote:
> The problem with the frontend not running as the mythtv user was that
> mythtv did not have execute access to the video folder.  When I tried
> going into the video directory I was getting access denied until I set
> the execute flag.  I am not sure why this would be but it is working
> now.
> 
> I don't have the xbox working yet but it is probably just another
> permission problem with SMB.
> 
> Thanks for the help
> 
> On 10/22/05, David W Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/22/05, ffrr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brandon Gracyalny wrote:
> >
> > > I have a mythtv user setup.  My recordings and live tv
> partition is
> > > /video.  I can watch live tv as the mythtv user.  When I
> try to play a 
> > > recording using this user the frontend just goes back to
> the recording
> > > list and will not play.  If I load the frontend as the
> root user the
> > > recording plays fine.
> > >
> > > I have also tried to do this through the xbmcscript on my
> xbox with 
> > > the same results.  The file shows up and the preview shows
> up but it
> > > will not play.
> > >
> > > The owner of the /video file is root.  All other users
> have read and
> > > write permission on this directory.  I have tried chowning
> the video 
> > > directory as my mythtv user but as soon as a recording
> happens it goes
> > > back to being owned as root.
> > >
> >
> > Sounds like permissions on the playing software or system,
> rather than 
> > the video file then. Does the log have anything useful to
> say when you
> > try (or even, run mythfrontend from a consol prompt and see
> if any
> > errors show up there)?
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have fedora core 4 and used the instructions on Jarod's
> site to 
> > > install mythtv.
> > >
> >
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Re: [mythtv-users] best THX/Dolby digital speaker system for price?

[Gabe Rubin]

I got a nice ONKYO 6.1 all in one system last year from Fry's. 
Normally around $500, but on clearance for $250.  Maybe my ears are
crap, but it sounds real good to me.  I am always seeing these systems
on slick deals, so go there, or froogle for a comparable set-up.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Selection for backend

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 20:18, Jon Solomon wrote:
> I am building my first Mythtv Backend from scratch. I plan on using 3
> Hauppauge PVR 500's to record 4-6 stearms at time. My question is how fast
> of a processor and how much ram should I get? Which Motherboard would you
> recommend that have little or no issues with the PVR 500s and SATA HD?
>
> Thanks I advanced for the help.

CPU speed won't matter much, so if you've got an old P3-ish system use that. 
If you want to build a new computer, look for an nForce3 based board with pci 
and agp and SATA. get the cheapest cpu you can find or the board and 512megs 
of ram. It'll be an Athlon of some sort so it'll be fast enough.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Manual scheduling with guide data?

[Andrew Chuah]

Bruce,

This is great. Thanks!

-andrewOn 10/24/05, Bruce Markey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Andrew Chuah wrote:> I'm wondering if there is a solution to my problem in Myth that I've missed:>> My wife likes Lifetime original movies; say they show a new one on Tues> nights 8.30-10.30. I obviously could go in every few weeks and set those
> titles to record, but a manual schedule would be fantastic in this> case... just record everything, and delete the ones that she's not> interested in!>> However, once I use manual scheduling, I totally lose the guide data,
> synopsis, even the title! I just get "manual scheduling..." which> doesn't help very much.>> Is there a way to do manual scheduling, but still keep the guide data?The answer to the question you asked is "no" but there should be
a solution the the situation you describe. This has come up before.See: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-August/099099.html
So I grabbed LIFEP ("P"acific, might be LIFE where you are) listingsand found that this week there is a four hour "Human Trafficking" andnext week there are two Lifetime type movies at 7 and 9. Obviously
an 8:30 manual would not be the right thing for the next couple weeks.Here is a power search rule to record anything that is a movie onLifetime during primetime on Tuesdays:Rule Name: "Lifetime Movies"
program.category_type = 'movie'AND channel.callsign = 'LIFEP'AND HOUR(program.starttime) >= 19AND HOUR(program.starttime) < 23AND DAYNAME(program.starttime) = 'Tuesday'Check the callsign then cut'n'paste this into the Custom Record page.
See: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.8 . Thiswill record any Tuesday evening Lifetime movie and keep all of theguide data.
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Re: [mythtv-users] recordings will not play as not root user

[Brandon Gracyalny]

The problem with the frontend not running as the mythtv user was that
mythtv did not have execute access to the video folder.  When I
tried going into the video directory I was getting access denied until
I set the execute flag.  I am not sure why this would be but it is
working now.

I don't have the xbox working yet but it is probably just another permission problem with SMB.

Thanks for the helpOn 10/22/05, David W Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/22/05, ffrr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Brandon Gracyalny wrote:>> > I have a mythtv user setup.  My recordings and live tv partition is> > /video.  I can watch live tv as the mythtv user.  When I try to play a
> > recording using this user the frontend just goes back to the recording> > list and will not play.  If I load the frontend as the root user the> > recording plays fine.> >> > I have also tried to do this through the xbmcscript on my xbox with
> > the same results.  The file shows up and the preview shows up but it> > will not play.> >> > The owner of the /video file is root.  All other users have read and> > write permission on this directory.  I have tried chowning the video
> > directory as my mythtv user but as soon as a recording happens it goes> > back to being owned as root.> >>> Sounds like permissions on the playing software or system, rather than
> the video file then. Does the log have anything useful to say when you> try (or even, run mythfrontend from a consol prompt and see if any> errors show up there)? > I have fedora core 4 and used the instructions on Jarod's site to
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: export HD (1920x1080i) to dvd with mencoder?

[Andrew Gallatin]

Byron Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 10/24/05, Boleslaw Ciesielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 11:38:55AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
> > >
> > > I've gotten the following mencoder commandline to convert to pure
> > > mpeg2, but I'm at a loss how to make it scale its output to a DVD
> > > resolution (720x480).
> >
> > For 1080i ATSC files the following works for me:
> >
> > mencoder -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd:vbitrate=8000 -oac copy -ovc lavc 
> > -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=8000:keyint=18:mbd=2:aspect=16/9 -vf 
> > scale=720:480:1 -fps 3/1001 -vc mpeg12, -o foo.mpg foo.nuv
> >
> > You must also pass -v 16:9 to dvdauthor, since the resulting mpg file
> > has a non-square pixel (16:9 aspect in 720x480).
> >
> > Bolek
> 
> 
> I spent a few days a little while ago figuring out the best route. 
> after trying the tovid scripts and getting nothing but out of A/V sync
> vob's I figured out the following command for ffmpeg: (this was after
> running the ".nuv" through ProjectX in TS mode.
> 
> ffmpeg -i INFILE.ts -target dvd -hq -b 4656 -s 720x410 -padtop 34
> -padbottom 36 -padcolor 00 -acodec copy OYTU_FILE.mpg
> 
> maybe it was the square pixel thing, but with out the padding the
> resulting dvd when played back on a 4:3 tv was squashed horizontally
> instead of letterboxed, so I added the letterbox manually.


Thanks guys.  I will try these tomorrow with the next one in the
series.  I actually managed to make a dvd today via:

 mencoder -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf
scale=720:480,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=18:aspect=16/9
-ofps 3/1001 -o file.mpg file.nuv

Running dvdauthor on that file.mpg creates a file with audio sync problems, so
I ran it through avidemux2 and-resaved a new mpg file.  *That* file
ended up working just fine.   I played the first few minutes in our
DVD player to check..  

Thanks again!

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[mythtv-users] Hardware Selection for backend

[Jon Solomon]

I am building my first Mythtv Backend from scratch. I plan on using 3
Hauppauge PVR 500's to record 4-6 stearms at time. My question is how
fast of a processor and how much ram should I get? Which Motherboard
would you recommend that have little or no issues with the  PVR
500s and SATA HD?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[Josh Boggis]

I have the PVR-150 and I am using the MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-250 / 350) option, and its working great for me!
 
 
On 10/24/05, R. Geoffrey Newbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:31:18 -0400, Hugues Belanger wrote:>>'ve just tried and now I just get unknown audio and video codec
>>I've also read this but I don't have this option ???>> What is the correct "card type" to select in mythtv-setup for the>> Hauppauge WinTV-PRV 150? Is it the standard V4L?
>MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500)That *exact* option seems to have disappeared from the latest subversionsource. As of last week, at least. The only MPEG encoder cards listed are
the PVR-250 and PVR-350 cards.Given that there used to be a quite different setup for those cards versusthe PVR-150/500 line, the lack of an explicit reference to the 150/500 isquite confusing during setup.
Maybe the reference could be added *back* to the title lineGeoffR. Geoffrey Newbury  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Barrister and Solicitor Telephone: 905-271-9600
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Re: [mythtv-users] Does time stretch make your MPEG-2 sound gurgle?

[Michael T. Dean]

Mark Kundinger wrote:


--- Mark Kundinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--- "Joseph A. Caputo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thursday 20 October 2005 1:40, Mark Kundinger wrote:
 


If I time stretch a recording, the audio seems to get "gurgly" (minor, 
sporadic, pitch or tempo changes).  This is most notable with programs that like to do 
big dramatic musical scores with lots of violins (think West Wing).  The strange part is 
that even if I set the time stretch back to 1.0, the gurgling is still there.  However, 
if I exit back to the menu and re-view the recording, sound is fine.

Most of my recording is done on a PVR-250, so the recordings are MPEG-2.  I 
have a MJPEG recorder too, and it doesn't *seem* that the problem still exists 
there, although I'm not positive, because I don't have as many recordings for 
that.  For sound output, I'm using the Nforce2 sound on my motherboard with 
Nvidia's driver.

So, anyone else seen this?  Right now I have no idea where the problem lies.


What decoding method are you using to play back your MPEG-2 recordings 
(normal/ffmpeg, libmpeg2 or XvMC) ?


Ooh, that's a very good question.  I have no special options selected, so I'm 
using normal/ffmpeg.  And I am using a SVN from a week or two ago.  I can try 
out libmpeg2 on my next tv watching bout.


I got a chance to try out this week's recording of West Wing (still by
far the best test case), and the "gurgle" still happened, whether I
used libmpeg2 or ffmpeg.  So I'm thinking the problem is either
MythTV's playback, or something involving the capture.

Can vanilla mplayer or xine do time stretch?  If so, I could try the
recording with those players to see if the gurgle still happens...
 

xine has a time stretch plugin called "stretch" but note that it appears 
in the audio post-processing "Chain Reaction" not in the video one.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Xmame

[Dan Brow]

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 15:15 -0700, Erik Hovland wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 09:12:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I keep getting unsupported version of xmame, what version is support?
> 
> What version of mythtv, distro and xmame do you have?

0.18.1, slackware 10.2 + dlg gnome, tried xmame 0.100 & 0.97


> 
> When mythgame can't launch xmame it will throw up this message as well
> as when the version is not actually supported. mythgame for 0.18.1 is
> known to work with xmame from version > 0.36 through version < 0.100
> (but it probably works with 0.100 too). The sweet spot is something like
> version >= 0.87 through version < 0.100. So if you have one of these
> versions I suggest jacking up the logging on mythfrontend and seeing
> what it tried to use for an xmame command and then running that command
> by hand as the user that is running mythfrontend and seeing what
> happens.
> 
> E
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Re: [mythtv-users] Knoppmyth Program Guide and live TV

[Michael T. Dean]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there anyway to debug a frontend crash on the same machine as the  
backend? I have R4A22, go to live TV, hit 'M' then select program  
guide and poof I am back at X and the wallpaper. I restart the FE via  
the menu on rightclick, and it restarts fine. I can change cahnnel by  
entering the channel number fine, and the recording works GREAT.


is there a spot to see logs on what crashes?


http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.2

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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Carl Lewis]

Michael Bochynski wrote:

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 18:56 +0100, Nick wrote:

On 24/10/05, Michael Bochynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:
>  Hi All,
>
>  My setup is as follows - cable box, LeadTek WinFast TV Deluxe as tuner and
> ATI Radeon 8500 as TV-Out.
>
>  However, My mythtv TV_OUT is significantly worse in terms of picture
> quality than a direct cable out to TV. My question is whether it is due to
> ATI card, not fully supported under Linux, or TV tuner, which does software
> encoding?


Michael, I used to run a radeon 9550, the only resolution I
could get a decent TV-out picture on was 1024x768 otherwise
there were artifacts. That said, when working the picture
was much better than the Nvidia fx5200 I'm using at
the moment. While it is less susceptible to changes in resolution, it
shows interferance, from what I'm guessing is the power supply 
(shimmering normally and rolling lines when the hard drive is working).


The only other twiddling I required for a decent picture with
the ATI were Myth's de-interlace settings (kernel worked
best for me) and ensuring the frontend ran SUID.

cheers,
Carl.

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[mythtv-users] Knoppmyth Program Guide and live TV

[cossaboon . mythtv]

Is there anyway to debug a frontend crash on the same machine as the  
backend? I have R4A22, go to live TV, hit 'M' then select program  
guide and poof I am back at X and the wallpaper. I restart the FE via  
the menu on rightclick, and it restarts fine. I can change cahnnel by  
entering the channel number fine, and the recording works GREAT.


is there a spot to see logs on what crashes?

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[mythtv-users] Knoppmyth R4A22 and nVidia 6200

[cossaboon . mythtv]

Tried to install the R4A22 and hit issue with my nVidia 6200 card.  
The picture on the CRT is dark Grey and no sVideo out.


I had sVideo durring the install, but when X fired up screen when  
dark grey and lost sVideo. I re-installed with an ATI card and all is  
OK with the video.


any ideas on how to trouble shoot the video issues?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Xmame

[Michael T. Dean]

Dan Brow wrote:


I keep getting unsupported version of xmame, what version is support?
 

With SVN, you can use any version you want, but I don't remember what 
version 0.18 allows.


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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Michael T. Dean]

Michael Bochynski wrote:


On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 15:07 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
[...]
 


However, honestly, the advantages of NVIDIA card you presented are not
overwhelming. The MythTV box will be used for MythTV only, nothing else,
hence OpenGL does not matter, am I right?

OpenGL is currently used by MythMusic (Goom among other 
visualizations), and many games that are played using MythGame.  Then, 
there's OpenGL vsync for smooth frame delivery.


Also, MythUI--which will probably show up in 0.20--will use OpenGL as 
the painting backend by default and will be the best reason to have 
hardware-based OpenGL acceleration support.


While MythGames are not on the list, MythMusic and new MythUI is worth considering. 
BTW, do you know when 0.20 is planned to be released?
 

Generally, the idea seems to be to release it "when it's finished."  ;)  
Even guessing a release date for 0.19 is way beyond my abilities.  But, 
when it is released (0.19, 0.20, or any other version), it should be 
worth the wait.  :)



I don't even have, and don't
plan to have, a regular monitor/LCD at home which I could use :) Signal
(MythTV) goes to TV out only. 


Right now I output TV to my receiver and then to TV. While HDTV is a
nice-to-have, i do not expect to have it in the next 6 - 12 month, while
I will watch TV in the next 6 - 12 months :) Hence having DVI, HDTV and
so on is not the highest priority. I will probably want to add it, 
 

Yeah, me too.  But then again, plans change.  I just bought an 
HDTV--something I've been saying I wouldn't do... 
   

:) yep. I totally agree. You never know. However, while I'd like to 
have nice (new) tv, trekking in Peru and visiting Mexico, Paris and Toronto

takes precedence :)
 

I hope you do better at sticking to your low-cost resolution than I 
did.  :)


But, it's your 
decision to make--I was just trying to answer your question, "whether it 
makes more sense to get PVR-350 (I don't need dual tuners of 500, since 
I use cable box)  or nice NVIDIA graphics card for better support for 
linux?"


I'm just thinking that if you're truly concerned with the pursuit of 
video perfection, you'll eventually find that NTSC/PAL--not your 
video/capture card--is the weak link in the chain.  :)
   

:) 
 


I am going solely after the  picture (TV) quality. I do not mind
proprietary drivers, since I hope I have my compile-from-source times
behind me, starting with the (very) early Linux times. I know, however,
that ATI (proprietary) drivers are worse than NVIDIA ones. BTW, which
NVIIDA card is worth looking at? I don't want to end up with card which
is not supported under Linux at all.
 

Like I said, the PVR-350 will provide that placebo effect that makes you 
believe for sure that you have the best possible picture quality.  ;)
   


yeah ... and since my goal was not to spend any money (so far so good - old
parts from unused computers of mine), it seems that graphics card would be a 
better solution in a long run. 
 

Also, see if you can do anything with your current configuration.  It's 
quite possible that modifying the recording parameters/CODEC or 
modifying your ATI/X settings may be all that's needed.  And, if getting 
a new $40-$60 NVIDIA 5200 card doesn't fix the problems you're seeing, 
you'll have to dig into the configuration stuff, anyway.  (BTW, I can't 
recommend a brand for the 5200--I don't know anything about them.  It's 
hard enough trying to keep up with NVIDIA's/ATI's, "let's use our 
competitor's naming scheme, but with a higher number" games as they move 
from generation to generation of GPU's let alone trying to keep up with 
the best 3rd-party card makers.)


And I admit, that software encoding itself, does not have a huge impact on 
the system, I can live with that. 
 

And decoding is even less of a hit, so even if you use a PVR-150 for 
encoding, offloading decoding of standard-definition sized MPEG-2 to a 
PVR-350 doesn't provide a big benefit.  Now if we could offload 
1920x1080 MPEG-2/MPEG-4/MPEG-4 AVC (H-264), that would be a whole 
different story (much more like the story when the PVR-350 first came 
out)... :)


Totally OT rant:  I've got to admit that having received this message 
from you, I'm extremely disappointed with Evolution.  I know it's trying 
to be the Outlook replacement, but do they really want to make it as 
awful as Outlook?  It actually puts a one-celled table containing 
another one-celled table containing your entire message (and, therefore, 
the entire body of the HTML page) in the HTML version of your multipart 
message.  And, it does the same HTML-obfuscation that MS FrontPage 
does--i.e. opening and closing font tags all over (although FrontPage 
goes much farther than Evolution with the obfuscation).  And, I won't 
even mention the deprecated HTML 4.01 instead of xHTML (or even 
xHTML-like HTML)...
   

I couldn't agree more. Not to mention that integration with Exchange 
is far from perfect, attachments are randomly
chang

Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems

[Martin West]

Thanks

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 12:20 -0700, Todd wrote:
> Ya, add:
> deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> to your /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> Then:
> apt-get update
> 
> Then:
> apt-get -b source mythplugins
> or:
> apt-get source mythplugins
> cd mythplugins-0.18.1/
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
> 
> ...it will be up to you to get the build dependencies (fairly easy).  Also, 
> a bunch of stuff is off in the package by default...namely the transcode 
> daemon?!?!?!  So:
> edit:
> ~/MythTV/mythplugins-0.18.1/debian/rules
> and add:
> --enable-transcode
> (remove --disable-transcode if it is in there)
> 
> Good luck,
> Todd
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" 
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
> 
> 
> > wow, thats a response.
> >
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> > Can someone net this out?
> >
> > On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> >> > On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > I got my main mythtv install off debs at
> >> > >
> >> > > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> >> > > deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> >> > >
> >> > > but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there
> >> >
> >> > How hard were you looking? :)
> >>
> >> # apt-get update
> >> ...
> >> # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth
> >> #
> >>
> >> That hard.
> >>
> >> > http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/
> >> > does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled
> >> > without any real problems.
> >>
> >> Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's
> >> listed in the Sources.gz in that directory.  Does apt-cache need an
> >> extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as
> >> binaries?
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[mythtv-users] Re: Xmame

[Erik Hovland]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 09:12:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I keep getting unsupported version of xmame, what version is support?

What version of mythtv, distro and xmame do you have?

When mythgame can't launch xmame it will throw up this message as well
as when the version is not actually supported. mythgame for 0.18.1 is
known to work with xmame from version > 0.36 through version < 0.100
(but it probably works with 0.100 too). The sweet spot is something like
version >= 0.87 through version < 0.100. So if you have one of these
versions I suggest jacking up the logging on mythfrontend and seeing
what it tried to use for an xmame command and then running that command
by hand as the user that is running mythfrontend and seeing what
happens.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[Hugues Belanger]

Ok I figured it out thanks

I define a new video source Rogers cable and select us-cable. Now I can see channel 4 which is what I've been using for testing. 

I must say that the video quality is just awful need to work on that now.

Thanks

Hugues


On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:19 -0400, Hugues Belanger wrote:

Hey All,

Well I've always been a big fan of MythTV, but I've yet to get it working properly...! 

I've tried two different capture cards and I get the same problem now I figure it must be something I just don't understand this is why I'm begging for help:

Hardware:

MediaReady 5000
Via 1G CPU
VIA S3 Unichrome w/tvOut
PVR 150

Software:

Ubuntu 5.04
ivtv 0.38
mythtb 0.18.1

Here's what I know:

ivtv works, mplayer /dev/outputs video and ptune.pl allows me to change channels. Not sure about the sound yet I have got that far.
I can play movies with mythvideo.

I configure mythtv-setup with the following

-capture card v4l

/dev/video0
/dev/dsp
/dev/vbi0
tuner 0

- Configured Video Source starchoice (zapt2it)

- Configured input Connnection
/dev/video0 --> Tuner0

When I start Livetv I just get a blanck screen with the following in my mythbackend.log:

2005-10-24 15:47:20.568 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.600 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.660 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.663 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 1)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.671 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.673 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.696 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.699 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.708 adding: mediaready as a remote ringbuffer
2005-10-24 15:47:20.724 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2005-10-24 15:47:20.786 Unknown video codec
2005-10-24 15:47:20.789 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and
2005-10-24 15:47:20.791 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles.
2005-10-24 15:47:20.793 Assuming RTjpeg for now.
2005-10-24 15:47:20.796 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec
2005-10-24 15:47:20.877 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back
VIDIOCGCHAN: Invalid argument
VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument
Can't read vbi data
2005-10-24 15:47:30.878 NVR: Only read -1 bytes of 4096 bytes from '/dev/dsp
read audio: Input/output error
2005-10-24 15:47:30.884 TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped

Here's what dmesg say about ivtv:

ivtv:  START INIT IVTV 
ivtv: version 0.3.8 (tagged release) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.10-5-386 preempt 386 gcc-3.3
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info
ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines when
ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (iTVC16 based)
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:08.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26032, rev = C199, serial# = 2984601
tveeprom: tuner = TCL 2002N 5H (idx = 99, type = 50)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = CX25841 (type = 23)
tveeprom: decoder processor = CX25841 (type = 1c)
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom[50], addr=50]
tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
cx25840: loading /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840[50], addr=44]
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775[50], addr=1b]
ivtv: loading /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin
ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040024
ivtv warning: Encoder Firmware can be buggy, use version 0x02040011
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
ivtv:   END INIT IVTV  



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Re: [mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[R. Geoffrey Newbury]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:31:18 -0400, Hugues Belanger wrote:

>>'ve just tried and now I just get unknown audio and video codec

>>I've also read this but I don't have this option ???

>> What is the correct "card type" to select in mythtv-setup for the 
>> Hauppauge WinTV-PRV 150? Is it the standard V4L? 
>>
>>

>MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500) 


That *exact* option seems to have disappeared from the latest subversion
source. As of last week, at least. The only MPEG encoder cards listed are
the PVR-250 and PVR-350 cards.

Given that there used to be a quite different setup for those cards versus
the PVR-150/500 line, the lack of an explicit reference to the 150/500 is
quite confusing during setup.

Maybe the reference could be added *back* to the title line


Geoff




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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Michael Bochynski]

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 17:11 -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote:


Michael Bochynski wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 14:20 -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
>> Michael Bochynski wrote:
>> 

[...]



[...]


>> >
>>
>> 350 is the best, but I have a 350 and an nvidia FX 5200 too, and I use 
>> the 5200 for tv-out. I'm starting to think the 350s are a waste of money 
>> too.
>>
>> 
>
> Waste of money, because of... ? Do you suggest using a regular, chip, 
> software-based, tuner card instead?


No, but I'd get a significantly cheaper PVR 150 instead, and a $50 
graphics card with opengl. More bang
for your buck.



Hmm.. I do have tuner card (Leadtek WinTV2000 deluxe), but it is software encoding. I guess I will start with graphics card and replace tuner card later. Which graphics would you suggest? 

Michael



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Re: [mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[Hugues Belanger]

I've just tried and now I just get unknown audio and video codec

I've also read this but I don't have this option ???

> What is the correct "card type" to select in mythtv-setup for the 
> Hauppauge WinTV-PRV 150? Is it the standard V4L? 
> 
> 

MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500) 



On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:54 -0400, Josh Boggis wrote:

MPEG-2



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Re: [mythtv-users] Does time stretch make your MPEG-2 sound gurgle?

[Mark Kundinger]

--- Mark Kundinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> --- "Joseph A. Caputo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 20 October 2005 1:40, Mark Kundinger wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > > 
> > > If I time stretch a recording, the audio seems to get "gurgly"
> > (minor,
> > > sporadic, pitch or tempo changes).  This is most notable with
> > programs
> > > that like to do big dramatic musical scores with lots of violins 
> > > (think 
> > > West Wing).  The strange part is that even if I set the time
> > stretch
> > > back to 1.0, the gurgling is still there.  However, if I exit
> back
> > to
> > > the menu and re-view the recording, sound is fine.
> > > 
> > > Most of my recording is done on a PVR-250, so the recordings are
> > > MPEG-2.  I have a MJPEG recorder too, and it doesn't *seem* that
> > the
> > > problem still exists there, although I'm not positive, because I
> > don't
> > > have as many recordings for that.  For sound output, I'm using
> the
> > > Nforce2 sound on my motherboard with Nvidia's driver.
> > > 
> > > So, anyone else seen this?  Right now I have no idea where the
> > problem 
> > > lies. 
> > 
> > What decoding method are you using to play back your MPEG-2
> > recordings 
> > (normal/ffmpeg, libmpeg2 or XvMC) ?
> > 
> 
> Ooh, that's a very good question.  I have no special options
> selected,
> so I'm using normal/ffmpeg.  And I am using a SVN from a week or two
> ago.  I can try out libmpeg2 on my next tv watching bout.
> 


I got a chance to try out this week's recording of West Wing (still by
far the best test case), and the "gurgle" still happened, whether I
used libmpeg2 or ffmpeg.  So I'm thinking the problem is either
MythTV's playback, or something involving the capture.

Can vanilla mplayer or xine do time stretch?  If so, I could try the
recording with those players to see if the gurgle still happens...

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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Jesse Guardiani]

Michael Bochynski wrote:

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 14:20 -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote:

Michael Bochynski wrote:



[...]


>
> Right now I output TV to my receiver and then to TV. While HDTV is a 
> nice-to-have, i do not expect to have it in the next 6 - 12 month, 
> while I will watch TV in the next 6 - 12 months :) Hence having DVI, 
> HDTV and so on is not the highest priority. I will probably want to 
> add it,

>
> I am going solely after the  picture (TV) quality.
>


350 is the best, but I have a 350 and an nvidia FX 5200 too, and I use 
the 5200 for tv-out. I'm starting to think the 350s are a waste of money 
too.





Waste of money, because of... ? Do you suggest using a regular, chip, 
software-based, tuner card instead?



No, but I'd get a significantly cheaper PVR 150 instead, and a $50 
graphics card with opengl. More bang

for your buck.


--
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Programmer/Sys Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [mythtv-users] Problem with tuning DVB card - tzap, mplayer ok mythtv not

[Simon Allcorn]

Hi David

Cheers for the response - I was being a complete idiot - I didn't fill
in any values, under advanced, new transport. what a muppet !!

Anyway, all tuned in now, on to the rest of the config !

Thanks

Simon


On 10/24/05, David Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24/10/05, Simon Allcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Thanks for the response, I think you may have hit the nail on the head !
> >
> > > I got these from tzap and, as I say, they worked for me.
> > How did you get tzap to do this ? I can't see an option for this !
> > Can't see a version number in tzap either  (downloaded 20th April I
> > think). Can you post the full output of tzap showing you this config ?
> > thanks
>
> Simon,
>
> Actually I mis-remembered.
>
> The file is used by tzap but generated by scan.
>
> This was the command I used to generate the channels.conf for tzap.
>
> # ./scan dvb-t/uk-CrystalPalace > channels.conf
>
> (IIRC scan, tzap and uk-CrystalPalace were included in the dvb-utils package)
>
> Though I guess you must already have this working
>
>
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where mythtv stores this dvb tuning information ? I
> > presume in the database although I'm not sure. I think it may be
> > highly possible that the config that mythtv is looking at may be
> > different to that which tzap is using.
>
> You're right, that channels.conf is not used by mythtv, which holds
> its channel parameters in the database.   I think there used to be a
> utility which sucked the channels.conf file the database, but I used
> mythtv's channel scan which worked a treat.
>
> I took the first line from the tzap channels.conf (which happened to
> be BBC1) and copied those parameters(the ones I posted earlier) into
> myth's scan dialog. It scanned all the muliplexes and channels (I
> don't know how) and populated the database.
>
> If you get stuck, I'm pretty sure that this is the guide I was following
>
> http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html   (thanks Martin)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[Brad Dorner]

Try looking at the file permissions on /dev/video0. Something on my
system keeps changing my permissions. The result is a blank screen while
I try to view live tv. 

Brad

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:54 -0400, Josh Boggis wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/24/05, Hugues Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hey All,
> 
> Well I've always been a big fan of MythTV, but I've yet to get
> it working properly...! 
> 
> I've tried two different capture cards and I get the same
> problem now I figure it must be something I just don't
> understand this is why I'm begging for help:
> 
> Hardware:
> 
> MediaReady 5000
> Via 1G CPU
> VIA S3 Unichrome w/tvOut 
> PVR 150
> 
> Software:
> 
> Ubuntu 5.04
> ivtv 0.38
> mythtb 0.18.1
> 
> Here's what I know:
> 
> ivtv works, mplayer /dev/outputs video and ptune.pl allows me
> to change channels. Not sure about the sound yet I have got
> that far. 
> I can play movies with mythvideo.
> 
> I configure mythtv-setup with the following
> 
> -capture card v4l
> 
> /dev/video0
> /dev/dsp
> /dev/vbi0
> tuner 0
> 
> - Configured Video Source starchoice (zapt2it) 
> 
> - Configured input Connnection
> /dev/video0 --> Tuner0
> 
> When I start Livetv I just get a blanck screen with the
> following in my mythbackend.log:
>  
>  
> I just setup MythTV this weekend with my PVR-150.  For capture card I
> used the MPEG-2, not v4l.  Works for me!
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Apple Bluetooth Remote Instead? Was: Microsoft Remote Keyboard

[R. Geoffrey Newbury]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:35:59 -0600, Mark Paulus wrote:

>What about a bluetooth enabled PDA, such as one of the higher end
>Sony Clies?  There's some kind of pretty nifty remote program
>available for PalmOS.  Maybe the writers could be convinced to look
>into using bluetooth to send out their signals.
>
>>> Yesterday I was browsing at a computer shop and noticed that Apple sells
>>> wireless remote keyboards as well as their usual USB connected keyboards. 
>>> The wireless remote keyboards use BLUETOOTH to talk to the computer.
>>> So a USB Bluetooth adapter to give bluetooth capability to your box, plus
>>> this keyboard might do the trick.
>>> Supposedly there is a Linux driver.
>>> The keyboards are quite small and slick.
>>> 
>>> AND there is a bluetooth wireless mouseTogether the price was about
>>> $100 Canadian...
>
>>I use a microsoft bluetooth kb and mouse and it works pretty well (my myth 
>>box is in the basement). But I keep waiting for a bluetooth remote, or 
>>something like that to come 
>out. Has anyone seen anything like this? THe only thing I've seen are people 
>using their bluetooth phones for a remote - yuck.

Well if bluetooth already works for this there is no reason that a Palm or
a good cell-phone could not be turned into a good remote.

Both Palm and better cell-phones have a Java JVM embedded in them, so
writing a remote program should be possible.

As for me, I know no java *but I know the java I like to drink in the
morning!*
Geoff




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Re: [mythtv-users] Feature Idea: Put PIP window to far right on 16:9 when 4:3 sources

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 16:43, Robert Denier wrote:
> It looks like on a 16:9 display you could put the 4:3 image on the left
> and the PIP window on the right, perhaps even with the default sizes.
> Obviously there would be black space below the pip window, but that way
> both video sources would display without overlap.
>
> Obviously you could also flip it and put the big 4:3 to the right and
> the little 4:3 to the left.
>
> At any rate, I'm just tossing out an idea.  Perhaps it is even a new and
> useful idea..   Of course if anyone knows of a simple way to do this
> now, then I'd be curious as to how.  I know you can move the main video
> window..
>
> -Robert

My friends 32" Sony WEGA HDTV does this with inputs. It'll even put an HD 
input into a window. It would let you resize the PIP windows bigger and 
smaller like you mention as well. It looks great and for us HDTV people this 
would be an AWESOME way to do PIP.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[Josh Boggis]

On 10/24/05, Hugues Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey All,Well I've always been a big fan of MythTV, but I've yet to get it working properly...! 
I've tried two different capture cards and I get the same problem now I figure it must be something I just don't understand this is why I'm begging for help:Hardware:MediaReady 5000Via 1G CPUVIA S3 Unichrome w/tvOut
PVR 150Software:Ubuntu 5.04ivtv 0.38mythtb 0.18.1Here's what I know:ivtv works, mplayer /dev/outputs video and ptune.pl allows me to change channels. Not sure about the sound yet I have got that far.
I can play movies with mythvideo.I configure mythtv-setup with the following-capture card v4l/dev/video0/dev/dsp/dev/vbi0tuner 0- Configured Video Source starchoice (zapt2it)
- Configured input Connnection/dev/video0 --> Tuner0When I start Livetv I just get a blanck screen with the following in my mythbackend.log:
 
 
I just setup MythTV this weekend with my PVR-150.  For capture card I used the MPEG-2, not v4l.  Works for me!
  
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Re: [mythtv-users] Possible to use only MythDVD?

[Kevin Kuphal]

Mark Elrod wrote:


Hello All,

I am trying to setup a Myth system that only uses MythDVD to archive
my DVDs. I am not interested in the PVR side of things. The setup
seems to not like the fact that I do not have a tuner card. Is there
any way to just run the DVD portion of Myth?
 


I think you can call a plugin like:

mythtv mythdvd

to have it start with just that application.That being said, you 
still need to setup some part of MythTV first, etc. but there is no 
requirement to have a tuner if you never plan to use that part of the 
system.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Re: Transcode to DVD-compatible MPEG-2 without quality loss?

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 16:04, Mike Frisch wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 12:44:21PM -0400, Steve Adeff wrote:
> > Have you tried processing your mpeg with ProjectX before encoding? I've
> > had great luck using ProjectX, mencoder, and avidemux2 on my ATSC mpeg2
> > files.
>
> I've had no luck with ProjectX in the past when working with .ts files
> from my Twinhan DVB-S card, but I am willing to give it another shot
> with MythTV recordings.
>
> > as for quality loss, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET QUALITY LOSS WHEN TRANSCODING.
> > this
>
> Understood and accepted :)
>
> > quality. Now, if your mpeg2 files meet the DVD standards, ProjectX can
> > convert to an mpeg2-ps from an mpeg2-ts that should work for DVD's. it
> > just remuxes the files without any transcoding.
>
> I am hoping it can do so without error and without losing A/V sync.  The
> latter is what seems to be a all too COMMON problem :(


I've used the latest version of ProjectX on my QAM recordings through my 
HD3000. When I play them back through mplayer the sync is fine. ProjectX will 
also let you do basic commercial cutting (it only cuts along GOP groups, so 
its not perfect). I use avidemux2 to do my commercial cutting, and then I 
encode to XviD for backup, but it can do DVD format as well. Avidemux2 does 
require re-syncing the audio, but its a trivial matter. The only problem 
avidemux2 has so far is with mixed progressive-telecine shows, the only of 
which I've encoutnered so ar is Supernatural, but I'm sure theres more out 
there. For this I use mencoder with the pullup filter to fix the telecine and 
do my cropping and resizing, encode to huffyuv or xvid at is highest quality 
settings. Then I open it in avidemux to do my commercial cutting and final 
encode to XviD.  So far this process has worked 100% for me.

Also, Considering your dropping in resolution eitherway the quality loss is 
not a real issue, either way the encode will look as good as possible for the 
format you choose. I've found my XviD encodes are about 95% as good as the 
original stream when played back on my 21" monitor, which, considering I can 
fit a 45min show on a 80min CD with the original AC3 audio, I figure thats 
pretty darn good ;-)

I would like to know if you get this working with your PVR card though, I plan 
on writing a how-to for the avidemux2 documentation and if I know the PVR 
output works with the process I can put that info in.

Hope this helps!
Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems

[Paul Pick]

> > I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap.
>
> Can you please give some details here?



# debian mirror
deb http://mirror.direct.ca/linux/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://mirror.direct.ca/linux/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib

# liblame
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

# mythtv
deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv



apt-get update
apt-get build-dep mythtv mythplugins
apt-get install fakeroot
apt-get source mythplugins
cd mythplugins-0.18.1/
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
dpkg -i ../myth*deb

 Something like that anyhow. :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] What ports does Mythtv Use?

[Joseph A. Caputo]

On Monday 24 October 2005 15:29, Mark Paulus wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am curious as to what ports/protocols mythtv uses?
> 
> Here's some background for my request.
> 
> I have a mythtv backend at my home.  I also have a DLink
> router, and at work I have an unknown firewall.
> 
> I would like to be able to run mythfrontend on my linux box
> at work, and create an ssh-tunnel to connect to my mythbackend
> at home, and ssh-tunnel the only the mythtv traffic back and forth.
> 
> Any insights would be helpful.
> 
> Thanks.

I used to do that; then I decided I wanted access to MythWeb, my Squid 
proxy, mail server, mfd (DAAP ports), etc...

It finally got to be a bit ridiculous remembering which ports I'd 
forwarded where, and I ended up setting up a PPP tunnel over ssh for a 
pseudo-VPN.  Works like a charm, and only requires that you have PPP 
configured on both ends.  Pretty easy to set up using the PPP-SSH Mini 
HOWTO:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ppp-ssh/index.html

-JAC
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[mythtv-users] Possible to use only MythDVD?

[Mark Elrod]

Hello All,

I am trying to setup a Myth system that only uses MythDVD to archive
my DVDs. I am not interested in the PVR side of things. The setup
seems to not like the fact that I do not have a tuner card. Is there
any way to just run the DVD portion of Myth?
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[mythtv-users] Feature Idea: Put PIP window to far right on 16:9 when 4:3 sources

[Robert Denier]

It looks like on a 16:9 display you could put the 4:3 image on the left
and the PIP window on the right, perhaps even with the default sizes.
Obviously there would be black space below the pip window, but that way
both video sources would display without overlap.

Obviously you could also flip it and put the big 4:3 to the right and
the little 4:3 to the left.

At any rate, I'm just tossing out an idea.  Perhaps it is even a new and
useful idea..   Of course if anyone knows of a simple way to do this
now, then I'd be curious as to how.  I know you can move the main video
window..

-Robert






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Re: [mythtv-users] Apple Bluetooth Remote Instead? Was: Microsoft Remote Keyboard

[Mark Paulus]

What about a bluetooth enabled PDA, such as one of the higher end
Sony Clies?  There's some kind of pretty nifty remote program
available for PalmOS.  Maybe the writers could be convinced to look
into using bluetooth to send out their signals.

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:31:06 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





>> Yesterday I was browsing at a computer shop and noticed that Apple sells
>> wireless remote keyboards as well as their usual USB connected keyboards. 
>> The wireless remote keyboards use BLUETOOTH to talk to the computer.
>> So a USB Bluetooth adapter to give bluetooth capability to your box, plus
>> this keyboard might do the trick.
>> Supposedly there is a Linux driver.
>> The keyboards are quite small and slick.
>> 
>> AND there is a bluetooth wireless mouseTogether the price was about
>> $100 Canadian...
>> 
>> Geoff
>> R. Geoffrey Newbury  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Barrister and Solicitor Telephone: 905-271-9600  
>>
>> Mississauga,Ontario, Canada  Facsimile:   905-271-1638
>> 
>> ___

>I use a microsoft bluetooth kb and mouse and it works pretty well (my myth box 
>is in the basement). But I keep waiting for a bluetooth remote, or something 
>like that to come 
out. Has anyone seen anything like this? THe only thing I've seen are people 
using their bluetooth phones for a remote - yuck.




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Re: [mythtv-users] Apple Bluetooth Remote Instead? Was: Microsoft Remote Keyboard

[d . sailer]

> Yesterday I was browsing at a computer shop and noticed that Apple sells
> wireless remote keyboards as well as their usual USB connected keyboards. 
> The wireless remote keyboards use BLUETOOTH to talk to the computer.
> So a USB Bluetooth adapter to give bluetooth capability to your box, plus
> this keyboard might do the trick.
> Supposedly there is a Linux driver.
> The keyboards are quite small and slick.
> 
> AND there is a bluetooth wireless mouseTogether the price was about
> $100 Canadian...
> 
> Geoff
> R. Geoffrey Newbury  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Barrister and Solicitor Telephone: 905-271-9600   
>   
> Mississauga,Ontario, Canada  Facsimile:   905-271-1638
> 
> ___

I use a microsoft bluetooth kb and mouse and it works pretty well (my myth box 
is in the basement). But I keep waiting for a bluetooth remote, or something 
like that to come out. Has anyone seen anything like this? THe only thing I've 
seen are people using their bluetooth phones for a remote - yuck.
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[mythtv-users] Blank Screen PVR-150 and LiveTV

[Hugues Belanger]

Hey All,

Well I've always been a big fan of MythTV, but I've yet to get it working properly...! 

I've tried two different capture cards and I get the same problem now I figure it must be something I just don't understand this is why I'm begging for help:

Hardware:

MediaReady 5000
Via 1G CPU
VIA S3 Unichrome w/tvOut
PVR 150

Software:

Ubuntu 5.04
ivtv 0.38
mythtb 0.18.1

Here's what I know:

ivtv works, mplayer /dev/outputs video and ptune.pl allows me to change channels. Not sure about the sound yet I have got that far.
I can play movies with mythvideo.

I configure mythtv-setup with the following

-capture card v4l

/dev/video0
/dev/dsp
/dev/vbi0
tuner 0

- Configured Video Source starchoice (zapt2it)

- Configured input Connnection
/dev/video0 --> Tuner0

When I start Livetv I just get a blanck screen with the following in my mythbackend.log:

2005-10-24 15:47:20.568 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.600 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.660 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.663 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 1)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.671 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.673 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.696 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 15:47:20.699 adding: mediaready as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 15:47:20.708 adding: mediaready as a remote ringbuffer
2005-10-24 15:47:20.724 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2005-10-24 15:47:20.786 Unknown video codec
2005-10-24 15:47:20.789 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and
2005-10-24 15:47:20.791 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles.
2005-10-24 15:47:20.793 Assuming RTjpeg for now.
2005-10-24 15:47:20.796 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec
2005-10-24 15:47:20.877 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back
VIDIOCGCHAN: Invalid argument
VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument
Can't read vbi data
2005-10-24 15:47:30.878 NVR: Only read -1 bytes of 4096 bytes from '/dev/dsp
read audio: Input/output error
2005-10-24 15:47:30.884 TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped

Here's what dmesg say about ivtv:

ivtv:  START INIT IVTV 
ivtv: version 0.3.8 (tagged release) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.10-5-386 preempt 386 gcc-3.3
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info
ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines when
ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (iTVC16 based)
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:08.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26032, rev = C199, serial# = 2984601
tveeprom: tuner = TCL 2002N 5H (idx = 99, type = 50)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = CX25841 (type = 23)
tveeprom: decoder processor = CX25841 (type = 1c)
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom[50], addr=50]
tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
cx25840: loading /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840[50], addr=44]
ivtv: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775[50], addr=1b]
ivtv: loading /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin
ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040024
ivtv warning: Encoder Firmware can be buggy, use version 0x02040011
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
ivtv:   END INIT IVTV  




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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Re: Transcode to DVD-compatible MPEG-2 without quality loss?

[Mike Frisch]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 12:44:21PM -0400, Steve Adeff wrote:
> Have you tried processing your mpeg with ProjectX before encoding? I've had 
> great luck using ProjectX, mencoder, and avidemux2 on my ATSC mpeg2 files.

I've had no luck with ProjectX in the past when working with .ts files
from my Twinhan DVB-S card, but I am willing to give it another shot
with MythTV recordings.

> as for quality loss, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET QUALITY LOSS WHEN TRANSCODING. this 

Understood and accepted :)

> quality. Now, if your mpeg2 files meet the DVD standards, ProjectX can 
> convert to an mpeg2-ps from an mpeg2-ts that should work for DVD's. it just 
> remuxes the files without any transcoding.

I am hoping it can do so without error and without losing A/V sync.  The
latter is what seems to be a all too COMMON problem :(
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Re: [mythtv-users] Backend loses the database

[Mickey Chandler]

At 02:39 PM 10/24/2005, Lee Koloszyc wrote:
>I didn't catch the beginning of this thread, but mythfilldatabase from
>0.18.1 doesn't seem to work with MySQL 5.0.  It has something to do with
>"repeat" being a keyword in the MySQL 5 I think.  I reverted back to 4
>and everything worked again. Not sure if this is your problem.

My problem is that the backend loses touch with the database, not 
that it's not filling.


My fix is documented here: 
http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-May/088738.html .  I 
basically escape the reserved word using `.


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[mythtv-users] Re: mythcommflag segmentation fault

[Alan Anderson]

Looking further in the recordedmarkup I found three recordings with a mark of 
-1  All three HD recordings form the hd3000 on the sbe.   I deleted those 
recordings.  And verified the mark=-1 are gone.

Now transcodeing still fails or never completes I just no longer see the 
cutlist change error.

2005-10-24 13:21:06.574 Transcoding 
from /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv 
to /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:28:07.301 
Deleting /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:28:07.650 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-10-24 13:28:07.659 Transcoding 
from /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv 
to /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:28:41.657 
Deleting /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:28:41.794 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-10-24 13:28:41.802 Transcoding 
from /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv 
to /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:32:29.033 
Deleting /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:32:29.195 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-10-24 13:32:29.203 Transcoding 
from /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv 
to /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv.tmp
2005-10-24 13:36:48.648 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-10-24 13:36:48.651 adding: pvr.home.lan as a client (events: 0)
2005-10-24 13:46:28.739 
Deleting /video/recordings/2012_2005102320_20051023210100.nuv



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[mythtv-users] default tuner for live tv on HD and SD frontends

[Byron Poland]

I'm putitng together a couple SD frontends to go with my system.  I
have one SD tuner in my backend, how can I make sure the the SD
frontends come up to that tuner by default when I go to live tv, so
they don't choke on HD content?

Thanks.
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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Michael Bochynski]

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 15:07 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
[...]



>However, honestly, the advantages of NVIDIA card you presented are not
>overwhelming. The MythTV box will be used for MythTV only, nothing else,
>hence OpenGL does not matter, am I right?
>
OpenGL is currently used by MythMusic (Goom among other 
visualizations), and many games that are played using MythGame.  Then, 
there's OpenGL vsync for smooth frame delivery.

Also, MythUI--which will probably show up in 0.20--will use OpenGL as 
the painting backend by default and will be the best reason to have 
hardware-based OpenGL acceleration support.





While MythGames are not on the list, MythMusic and new MythUI is worth considering. 
BTW, do you know when 0.20 is planned to be released?





>I don't even have, and don't
>plan to have, a regular monitor/LCD at home which I could use :) Signal
>(MythTV) goes to TV out only. 
>
>Right now I output TV to my receiver and then to TV. While HDTV is a
>nice-to-have, i do not expect to have it in the next 6 - 12 month, while
>I will watch TV in the next 6 - 12 months :) Hence having DVI, HDTV and
>so on is not the highest priority. I will probably want to add it, 
>  
>
Yeah, me too.  But then again, plans change.  I just bought an 
HDTV--something I've been saying I wouldn't do... 




:) yep. I totally agree. You never know. However, while I'd like to 
have nice (new) tv, trekking in Peru and visiting Mexico, Paris and Toronto
takes precedence :)





 But, it's your 
decision to make--I was just trying to answer your question, "whether it 
makes more sense to get PVR-350 (I don't need dual tuners of 500, since 
I use cable box)  or nice NVIDIA graphics card for better support for 
linux?"

I'm just thinking that if you're truly concerned with the pursuit of 
video perfection, you'll eventually find that NTSC/PAL--not your 
video/capture card--is the weak link in the chain.  :)




:) 




>I am going solely after the  picture (TV) quality. I do not mind
>proprietary drivers, since I hope I have my compile-from-source times
>behind me, starting with the (very) early Linux times. I know, however,
>that ATI (proprietary) drivers are worse than NVIDIA ones. BTW, which
>NVIIDA card is worth looking at? I don't want to end up with card which
>is not supported under Linux at all.
>  
>
Like I said, the PVR-350 will provide that placebo effect that makes you 
believe for sure that you have the best possible picture quality.  ;)




yeah ... and since my goal was not to spend any money (so far so good - old
parts from unused computers of mine), it seems that graphics card would be a 
better solution in a long run. 

And I admit, that software encoding itself, does not have a huge impact on 
the system, I can live with that. 




Mike



Michael




Totally OT rant:  I've got to admit that having received this message 
from you, I'm extremely disappointed with Evolution.  I know it's trying 
to be the Outlook replacement, but do they really want to make it as 
awful as Outlook?  It actually puts a one-celled table containing 
another one-celled table containing your entire message (and, therefore, 
the entire body of the HTML page) in the HTML version of your multipart 
message.  And, it does the same HTML-obfuscation that MS FrontPage 
does--i.e. opening and closing font tags all over (although FrontPage 
goes much farther than Evolution with the obfuscation).  And, I won't 
even mention the deprecated HTML 4.01 instead of xHTML (or even 
xHTML-like HTML)...



I couldn't agree more. Not to mention that integration with Exchange is far from perfect, attachments are randomly
changed from a supported type/extension (zip, doc) to a binary (.bin) type. No idea why and whet it happens, however 
it's so frustrating that I have to use VMWare with outlook just for the purpose of sending the attachments.



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Re: [mythtv-users] Epia 3d drm drivers - SOLVED

[Robin Gilks]

> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:58:49 +1300 (NZDT), Robin Gilks wrote:
>
>>Greetings
>>
>>I've been using Ivors Unichrome snapshots for a while and not had any
>>problem with the dri drivers.
>>
>>I thought I'd give 2.6.13 a try as I thought that via drm was now
>>supported. The modules compile & install OK but I don't get the devices
>>created under /dev with the kernel version - what am I missing?
>>
>>Running Gentoo with udev if that makes any difference...
>>
>
> Running Fedora 4 and have the same problem using an Epia xorg rpm from
> http://washington.kelkoo.net with 2.6.13-1.1524FC4.
>
> I think that it is not a problem with the rpm. I found the udev
> development page and I noted that the change log had a line about turning
> *off* creation of /dev/dri entries (dated about March 2005).
>
> And in my case, xorg.0.log shows that there is no /dev/dri/cardx (where x
> is 0-254) and thereupon dri fails and drm is turned off.
> I note that dmesg implies that dri is properly loaded... it does not
> report the failure apparently.
>
> So now the trick is to figure out how to create a udev rule which will
> create the /dri/cardx entries
>
> Or step back to the unichrome snaps, instead of the kernel versions,
> although that might not actually fix the problem, which appears to be
> udev..
>
> Any takers...because I am wa past my depth already!

Turns out that its due to the kernel DRM not recognising the PCI id of the
SP13000 video adapter. The Ivor Unichrome snapshot is much more up-to-date
and hence doesn't suffer this problem. Compare
usr/src/linux{xx}/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h
and
usr/src/unichrome{xx}/drm/linux-core/drm_pciids.h

Guess we'll have to wait for a kernel update and use the snapshot in the
meantime.

-- 
Robin Gilks



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Re: [mythtv-users] What ports does Mythtv Use?

[Kevin Kuphal]

Mark Paulus wrote:


Hello,

I am curious as to what ports/protocols mythtv uses?

Here's some background for my request.

I have a mythtv backend at my home.  I also have a DLink
router, and at work I have an unknown firewall.

I would like to be able to run mythfrontend on my linux box
at work, and create an ssh-tunnel to connect to my mythbackend
at home, and ssh-tunnel the only the mythtv traffic back and forth.

Any insights would be helpful.
 

The backend listens and talks on 6543.  I know it also needs MySQL 
(whatever port that uses).  There could be NFS traffic there as well 
depending on your system but I think that might be it...


Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Backend loses the database

[Lee Koloszyc]

Mickey Chandler wrote:


At 04:54 AM 10/23/2005, Nick Rosier wrote:
>What version of MySQL are you running?

I'm running 5.0.4-beta-standard

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I didn't catch the beginning of this thread, but mythfilldatabase from 
0.18.1 doesn't seem to work with MySQL 5.0.  It has something to do with 
"repeat" being a keyword in the MySQL 5 I think.  I reverted back to 4 
and everything worked again. Not sure if this is your problem.


Lee
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Re: [mythtv-users] Microsoft Remote Keyboard

[Lee]

Ahh, some more informations:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7489381&forum_id=5339 




Not much though

First find out which MCE Remote you have - there are two - The 2004 
version and the 2005 version...


http://www.ptme.ch/products.php?p=b6c39b   <-near the bottom of the page is the 
2005 version

I have the 2004 version, and run KnoppMyth, the instructions for installing it are on the KnoppMythWiki - 


http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=LIRCHowToUSBMCE2004Remote

Give that a bash...

Lee

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[mythtv-users] Xmame

[Dan Brow]

I keep getting unsupported version of xmame, what version is support?

Thanks,
Dan.

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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Steve Adeff]

On Monday 24 October 2005 15:07, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> Michael Bochynski wrote:
> >On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:41 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> >>Michael Bochynski wrote:
> >>>I want to replace one of those components, by my question is whether
> >>>it makes more sense to get PVR-350 (I don't need dual tuners of 500,
> >>>since I use cable box)  or nice NVIDIA graphics card for better
> >>>support for linux?
> >>
> >>IMHO, the PVR-350 is a waste of money (and I wasted money on one) in
> >>today's world.  It made sense when 720x480 MPEG-2 decoding strained
> >>general-purpose CPU's, but any processor that's worth using in a Myth
> >>box (1GHz or better) will barely notice the effort.  I'm using an NVIDIA
> >>card (and not using the TV out on my PVR-350) because it has so many
> >>advantages:
> >>- OpenGL support
> >>- Choice of resolution, overscan, etc. (allows you to choose the
> >>best combination of scaling, size, position, etc. for your needs)
> >>- Choice of outputs (i.e. built-in TV out, using VGA to a VGA to
> >>NTSC/PAL converter, using VGA/DVI to a monitor/digital TV, etc.)
> >>- If you get a 5200 or better, ability to support HDTV when you
> >>decide to switch
> >>- Is not a single-purpose device, so it continues to be useful even
> >>if you stop using Myth.  (OK, I don't think it's possible for someone to
> >>stop using Myth once they've started, but it's the principal of the
> >> matter.)
> >>
> >>And only one disadvantage:
> >>- Does not provide the placebo effect for users, so video quality is
> >>significantly worse.  ;)  (Which actually means you must learn how to
> >>configure it for good video quality.  With a PVR-350, you just need to
> >>learn how to configure it and you get good quality--the PVR-350 is an
> >>all or nothing configuration because it doesn't give you the options
> >>that I mentioned as a benefit above, so you can't configure it for
> >>poor-quality output.)
> >>
> >>OK, so the NVIDIA proprietary drivers are the real disadvantage, but
> >>they're much better than the ATI drivers, so if you've got to pick one,
> >>NVIDIA's the way to go.
> >
> >Thanks for suggestions. before spending any money I will play around
> >with settings.
> >
> >However, honestly, the advantages of NVIDIA card you presented are not
> >overwhelming. The MythTV box will be used for MythTV only, nothing else,
> >hence OpenGL does not matter, am I right?
>
> OpenGL is currently used by MythMusic (Goom among other
> visualizations), and many games that are played using MythGame.  Then,
> there's OpenGL vsync for smooth frame delivery.
>
> Also, MythUI--which will probably show up in 0.20--will use OpenGL as
> the painting backend by default and will be the best reason to have
> hardware-based OpenGL acceleration support.
>
> >I don't even have, and don't
> >plan to have, a regular monitor/LCD at home which I could use :) Signal
> >(MythTV) goes to TV out only.
> >
> >Right now I output TV to my receiver and then to TV. While HDTV is a
> >nice-to-have, i do not expect to have it in the next 6 - 12 month, while
> >I will watch TV in the next 6 - 12 months :) Hence having DVI, HDTV and
> >so on is not the highest priority. I will probably want to add it,
>
> Yeah, me too.  But then again, plans change.  I just bought an
> HDTV--something I've been saying I wouldn't do...  But, it's your
> decision to make--I was just trying to answer your question, "whether it
> makes more sense to get PVR-350 (I don't need dual tuners of 500, since
> I use cable box)  or nice NVIDIA graphics card for better support for
> linux?"
>
> I'm just thinking that if you're truly concerned with the pursuit of
> video perfection, you'll eventually find that NTSC/PAL--not your
> video/capture card--is the weak link in the chain.  :)
>
> >I am going solely after the  picture (TV) quality. I do not mind
> >proprietary drivers, since I hope I have my compile-from-source times
> >behind me, starting with the (very) early Linux times. I know, however,
> >that ATI (proprietary) drivers are worse than NVIDIA ones. BTW, which
> >NVIIDA card is worth looking at? I don't want to end up with card which
> >is not supported under Linux at all.
>
> Like I said, the PVR-350 will provide that placebo effect that makes you
> believe for sure that you have the best possible picture quality.  ;)
>
> Mike
>
> Totally OT rant:  I've got to admit that having received this message
> from you, I'm extremely disappointed with Evolution.  I know it's trying
> to be the Outlook replacement, but do they really want to make it as
> awful as Outlook?  It actually puts a one-celled table containing
> another one-celled table containing your entire message (and, therefore,
> the entire body of the HTML page) in the HTML version of your multipart
> message.  And, it does the same HTML-obfuscation that MS FrontPage
> does--i.e. opening and closing font tags all over (although FrontPage
> goes much farther than Evolution with the obfusca

Re: [mythtv-users] "Error parsing parameters" when trying to scan channels

[Nick]

On 24/10/05, Hoxzer hokkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TV card: Cinergy 1200 DVB-C
>  Kernel: 2.6.13.4
>
>  When I try to scan channels with myth-tv I get error: ""error parsing
> parameters"
>
>  However if I try to scan only the channels I already have. Scan starts
> normally but seems to last forever (I waited about 2 hours), I have tested
> my card with czap and the test.mpg was fine.
>
>  My problem seems to be verry similar with this one:
> http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5191&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pids+set
>  but seems like the thread has no solution to problem. I'm also from finland
> btw.
>
>  I have succesfully created channels.conf, is it possible to import that to
> mythtv somehow?
>
>  I don't really know should I tell more about this, but I would be lucky to
> answer questions about it.

Maybe this will be useful for you (might not have been updated for the
0.18 updates to DVB where the multiplex information is in its own
table) - it is for DVB-T channels.conf files but you could probably
update it for DVB-C. You could also look at the SQL commands it
generates.

http://brej.org/dvb/index.html

The channels table contains channel information and the PID of the
channel. The dvb_multiplex table contains all of the actual DVB tuning
information.

Nick
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[mythtv-users] What ports does Mythtv Use?

[Mark Paulus]

Hello,

I am curious as to what ports/protocols mythtv uses?

Here's some background for my request.

I have a mythtv backend at my home.  I also have a DLink
router, and at work I have an unknown firewall.

I would like to be able to run mythfrontend on my linux box
at work, and create an ssh-tunnel to connect to my mythbackend
at home, and ssh-tunnel the only the mythtv traffic back and forth.

Any insights would be helpful.

Thanks.



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Re: [mythtv-users] Backend loses the database

[Mickey Chandler]

At 04:54 AM 10/23/2005, Nick Rosier wrote:
>What version of MySQL are you running?

I'm running 5.0.4-beta-standard

--
Mickey Chandler
Chief Operating Whizard
Whizardries, Inc.: 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems

[Todd]

Ya, add:
deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
to your /etc/apt/sources.list

Then:
apt-get update

Then:
apt-get -b source mythplugins
or:
apt-get source mythplugins
cd mythplugins-0.18.1/
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b

...it will be up to you to get the build dependencies (fairly easy).  Also, 
a bunch of stuff is off in the package by default...namely the transcode 
daemon?!?!?!  So:

edit:
~/MythTV/mythplugins-0.18.1/debian/rules
and add:
--enable-transcode
(remove --disable-transcode if it is in there)

Good luck,
Todd


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Discussion about mythtv" 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems



wow, thats a response.

Thanks guys.

Can someone net this out?

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:

On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I got my main mythtv install off debs at
> >
> > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> > deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> >
> > but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there
>
> How hard were you looking? :)

# apt-get update
...
# apt-cache search plugin | grep myth
#

That hard.

> http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/
> does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled
> without any real problems.

Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's
listed in the Sources.gz in that directory.  Does apt-cache need an
extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as
binaries?

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Re: [mythtv-users] audio/video stutter

[tgate]

But I'm confused by the message:
FATAL: Module tveeprom_ivtv not found.


Why is there a "_ivtv" tacked onto the end of the module name after  
I try "modprobe tveeprom"?
I can't actually find "tveeprom_ivtv" anywhere, nor can I find it  
listed when I grep through files.


So I figured outthat the _ivtv was comming from my modprobe.conf file  
which had these lines...


# ivtv modules setup
alias char-major-81 ivtv
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv


So I took out the "alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv" and the module  
loaded correctly.  At least after reboot I didn't get the conflict  
messages any more.  I do still get lots of this...


ivtv warning: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found for command  
0x80287610!


not sure what that is resulting from.

Can't say if these changes work yet or not though until I get home  
from work.   Fingers are crossed.  Thanks for your support.


-todd

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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems

[Martin West]

well I tried adding the
deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv

but still get the problem

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 19:01 -0400, Martin West wrote:
> wow, thats a response.
> 
> Thanks guys.
> 
> Can someone net this out?
> 
> On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> > > On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I got my main mythtv install off debs at
> > > >
> > > > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> > > > deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> > > >
> > > > but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there
> > > 
> > > How hard were you looking? :)
> > 
> > # apt-get update
> > ...
> > # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth
> > #
> > 
> > That hard.
> > 
> > > http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/
> > > does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled
> > > without any real problems.
> > 
> > Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's
> > listed in the Sources.gz in that directory.  Does apt-cache need an
> > extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as
> > binaries?
> > 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Manual scheduling with guide data?

[Bruce Markey]

Andrew Chuah wrote:

I'm wondering if there is a solution to my problem in Myth that I've missed:

My wife likes Lifetime original movies; say they show a new one on Tues 
nights 8.30-10.30. I obviously could go in every few weeks and set those 
titles to record, but a manual schedule would be fantastic in this 
case... just record everything, and delete the ones that she's not 
interested in!


However, once I use manual scheduling, I totally lose the guide data, 
synopsis, even the title! I just get "manual scheduling..." which 
doesn't help very much.


Is there a way to do manual scheduling, but still keep the guide data?


The answer to the question you asked is "no" but there should be
a solution the the situation you describe. This has come up before.
See: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-August/099099.html

So I grabbed LIFEP ("P"acific, might be LIFE where you are) listings
and found that this week there is a four hour "Human Trafficking" and
next week there are two Lifetime type movies at 7 and 9. Obviously
an 8:30 manual would not be the right thing for the next couple weeks.

Here is a power search rule to record anything that is a movie on
Lifetime during primetime on Tuesdays:

Rule Name: "Lifetime Movies"

program.category_type = 'movie'
AND channel.callsign = 'LIFEP'
AND HOUR(program.starttime) >= 19
AND HOUR(program.starttime) < 23
AND DAYNAME(program.starttime) = 'Tuesday'

Check the callsign then cut'n'paste this into the Custom Record page.
See: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.8 . This
will record any Tuesday evening Lifetime movie and keep all of the
guide data.

--  bjm


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Re: [mythtv-users] tv-out quality problems

[Michael T. Dean]

Michael Bochynski wrote:

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:41 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: 


Michael Bochynski wrote:

I want to replace one of those components, by my question is whether 
it makes more sense to get PVR-350 (I don't need dual tuners of 500, 
since I use cable box)  or nice NVIDIA graphics card for better 
support for linux?
 

IMHO, the PVR-350 is a waste of money (and I wasted money on one) in 
today's world.  It made sense when 720x480 MPEG-2 decoding strained 
general-purpose CPU's, but any processor that's worth using in a Myth 
box (1GHz or better) will barely notice the effort.  I'm using an NVIDIA 
card (and not using the TV out on my PVR-350) because it has so many 
advantages:

   - OpenGL support
   - Choice of resolution, overscan, etc. (allows you to choose the 
best combination of scaling, size, position, etc. for your needs)
   - Choice of outputs (i.e. built-in TV out, using VGA to a VGA to 
NTSC/PAL converter, using VGA/DVI to a monitor/digital TV, etc.)
   - If you get a 5200 or better, ability to support HDTV when you 
decide to switch
   - Is not a single-purpose device, so it continues to be useful even 
if you stop using Myth.  (OK, I don't think it's possible for someone to 
stop using Myth once they've started, but it's the principal of the matter.)


And only one disadvantage:
   - Does not provide the placebo effect for users, so video quality is 
significantly worse.  ;)  (Which actually means you must learn how to 
configure it for good video quality.  With a PVR-350, you just need to 
learn how to configure it and you get good quality--the PVR-350 is an 
all or nothing configuration because it doesn't give you the options 
that I mentioned as a benefit above, so you can't configure it for 
poor-quality output.)


OK, so the NVIDIA proprietary drivers are the real disadvantage, but 
they're much better than the ATI drivers, so if you've got to pick one, 
NVIDIA's the way to go.
   


Thanks for suggestions. before spending any money I will play around
with settings. 


However, honestly, the advantages of NVIDIA card you presented are not
overwhelming. The MythTV box will be used for MythTV only, nothing else,
hence OpenGL does not matter, am I right?

OpenGL is currently used by MythMusic (Goom among other 
visualizations), and many games that are played using MythGame.  Then, 
there's OpenGL vsync for smooth frame delivery.


Also, MythUI--which will probably show up in 0.20--will use OpenGL as 
the painting backend by default and will be the best reason to have 
hardware-based OpenGL acceleration support.



I don't even have, and don't
plan to have, a regular monitor/LCD at home which I could use :) Signal
(MythTV) goes to TV out only. 


Right now I output TV to my receiver and then to TV. While HDTV is a
nice-to-have, i do not expect to have it in the next 6 - 12 month, while
I will watch TV in the next 6 - 12 months :) Hence having DVI, HDTV and
so on is not the highest priority. I will probably want to add it, 
 

Yeah, me too.  But then again, plans change.  I just bought an 
HDTV--something I've been saying I wouldn't do...  But, it's your 
decision to make--I was just trying to answer your question, "whether it 
makes more sense to get PVR-350 (I don't need dual tuners of 500, since 
I use cable box)  or nice NVIDIA graphics card for better support for 
linux?"


I'm just thinking that if you're truly concerned with the pursuit of 
video perfection, you'll eventually find that NTSC/PAL--not your 
video/capture card--is the weak link in the chain.  :)



I am going solely after the  picture (TV) quality. I do not mind
proprietary drivers, since I hope I have my compile-from-source times
behind me, starting with the (very) early Linux times. I know, however,
that ATI (proprietary) drivers are worse than NVIDIA ones. BTW, which
NVIIDA card is worth looking at? I don't want to end up with card which
is not supported under Linux at all.
 

Like I said, the PVR-350 will provide that placebo effect that makes you 
believe for sure that you have the best possible picture quality.  ;)


Mike

Totally OT rant:  I've got to admit that having received this message 
from you, I'm extremely disappointed with Evolution.  I know it's trying 
to be the Outlook replacement, but do they really want to make it as 
awful as Outlook?  It actually puts a one-celled table containing 
another one-celled table containing your entire message (and, therefore, 
the entire body of the HTML page) in the HTML version of your multipart 
message.  And, it does the same HTML-obfuscation that MS FrontPage 
does--i.e. opening and closing font tags all over (although FrontPage 
goes much farther than Evolution with the obfuscation).  And, I won't 
even mention the deprecated HTML 4.01 instead of xHTML (or even 
xHTML-like HTML)...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems

[Martin West]

wow, thats a response.

Thanks guys.

Can someone net this out?

On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> > On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I got my main mythtv install off debs at
> > >
> > > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> > > deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
> > >
> > > but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there
> > 
> > How hard were you looking? :)
> 
> # apt-get update
> ...
> # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth
> #
> 
> That hard.
> 
> > http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/
> > does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled
> > without any real problems.
> 
> Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's
> listed in the Sources.gz in that directory.  Does apt-cache need an
> extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as
> binaries?
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